the club of lucid dreaming

[нева]

I propose here to share experiences of lucid dreams achieved in different ways.

[нева]

For example: One woman told how she passed out with a tablet of validol under the tongue, and in REM sleep ..validol podmodel a bit of her...and she had a very unique experience..then she tried again..and in General, for Osiv validol prishelsya it taste.)

[Валерич]

I have the OS there is no friendship, but 1,5 month ago there was a funny situation.
One night woke up thinking that the front door didn't lock, got up, went to check. Yeah, the keys still in the ignition no, it's not locked. And in that moment realize that I was asleep, and to lock the door, you must go for the body. Did so, went back to the bedroom, woke up and went to lock the door.

[нева]

Valerich
I had a long time ago) I woke up(realize the self) hanging in the bathroom in the corner and something in the side much colitis, stretched out his hand with difficulty and tore off, not to interfere with, and in the morning..look at the towels lying on the floor..the rack fell off the wall, well, put back, and again she fell off nasugbu ..I think.. and bought a new one..)

[донна Лилия]

One woman told how she passed out with a tablet of validol under the tongue

Was an interesting experience dreams with "dream herb" (calea zakatechichi). There are many levels of dreaming, from "like how I remembered" until it is being in a parallel reality, comparable to the degree of involvement with the physical world. With Calea first time was an experience full management of the entire surrounding reality, the experience is magical. Then is not repeated, but the dream has become more manageable, regular and entry easier. Now interested in ways of depositing a specific intention to not just fly, but still with a purpose. While in contact with the dream goal is forgotten, Nevawhat would you recommend?

[нева]

Donna Lily
Now, if You would have told any episode of experience, for example, about what some entity...or any adventure..)

but the dream has become more manageable, regular and entry easier. Now interested in ways of depositing a specific intention to not just fly, but still with a purpose.

NUU..have a guess, judging by Your words that You enter into the dream more spontaneously than intentionally...or rather you are entering the dream, the intention to enter the dream. And if you will enter into the dream is not just to enter, and having purpose for what you do, you'll likely remember. Ie..let's say you have a goal for example..to contemplate a kangaroo at the zoo, or let some cash flow ..doesn't matter. just need to be sure that You really need to contemplate.. there threads or kangaroo...for anyone..including in today's dream. In General, if a goal is forgotten, then most likely, your practice to a greater degree from the head(his will) and not from the body, in the sense of matter where the entrance to the dream-initiated, and as You rightly put it, a lot of levels. There is a technique "Walking the bodhisattva" for the connection of mind with body..but it is difficult, therefore it is better..not to bother..)

[Анна Сергеевна]

All good day:) I Have a question: what parameters do You determine that you are in the OS?

[нева]

All good day:) I Have a question: what parameters do You determine that you are in the OS?

We better yet ..to determine anything will not, and in principle there is no such goal. Here it is, I wonder how Valerich the door went to close.
But if someone has the criteria and definitions will be interested.
In this regard, there are story options. I have one friend traveler by the name Khizhnyak..well, he went-went to Peru..at the shaman learned from samna..wild tribe..and there is to learn ..to marry even made..but not the case))...on his energy, then the expedition gathered people and went for the dream, and it turned out..that Ayahuasca..this is not all, and then there are physical exercises for the development of the organ of dreams, which is in the stomach. Well, actually they brought the expedition to a small set of exercises. Well and accordingly then people are interested in it, they come to practice every day.Generally one man not bad at all, and he's passing all sorts of dreams, come fly in what there body. And at that time the group came to American, and he zaslanets sect Marmont was apparently to recruit, looks a lot of people, and let your Nlpi to use than very angry guy, which was good. Generally in the evening, call on her cell phone (and only eat going) and there Gerald in hysterics..what nonsense are you talking about the fact that the war was over and the like, and is calling from the Museum of the Roerichs..and asked to call someone..and pass on his words. Well..calling saying what happened? friend said:-I went to watch TV and fell asleep..and Gerald was angry and direct in his apartment was, and hanging all abuzz with indignation, and looking at Jerica, Gerald raises his eyes, gets out of the table, and into the corridor..companion for him..Geared to the kitchen and he there-
same. Ask fellow ..and what ever did Gerik?.. (it was interesting then think Jerica asked). Rushing says at the apartment. The next day, Gerald called my friend and asked.. all get away from me..) then disappeared..
Parameters definition of this experience I do not know..)<

[Анна Сергеевна]

The reason I asked this question. Reading the forum on this topic, I was under the impression that people don't realize what OS and confuse it with some other condition. For me in the OS all real. Wood - wood, iron - iron, etc. And becomes real immediately after the moment of realization that I am dreaming.

[нева]

Anna S.

Yeah I understand, really..important point, this criterion is self-assessment

[нева]

Anna S.
But a normal person in the period of conditional wakefulness..rarely remembers that he is not sleeping..) I Mean to remember this one, and keep for a long time is another..) That is a moment of awareness and hold it..but then again she remembered the man himself and just forget..like OS ..but it seems not quite..)

[нева]

the reason I asked this question. Reading the forum on this topic, I was under the impression that people don't realize what OS and confuse it with some other condition.

Let's face it, as someone said.)

[донна Лилия]

All good day:) I Have a question: what parameters do You determine that you are in the OS?

Ever been to the state of a system precisely with proselochnyy the TRANS confused. Although different States and so many words to describe them difficult. But OS from astral travel so it is difficult to clearly separate.

[донна Лилия]

says Rushing around the apartment. The next day, Gerald called my friend and asked.. all get away from me..) then disappeared..

Hmm...Americans and our spirituality klipche was

[ЛИЛИЯ-Р]

A couple of days ago in the morning , as she , without intent , was released in the OS. "I went to visit a friend, she's somewhere in the back room and hear only her voice and her husband. And then I raised my hands up , such ease , what I think what will fly))), I will not freak them out. They know my weirdness. Easily climbed up almost to the ceiling, thought of it before on the high street , always afraid the wires to catch, and then the light bulb would not carry. They come out and say that I am wasting time again))))). I fell on the floor , but why the legs in the Lotus position, I thought that before I do not "landed". Tell them , well, at least give in OSA to fly))) to Wake up can't it. They looked at me strange when they walk , how they sleep can? I had to explain that there are takoe OS and when I Wake up I will tell more. And now has no desire to bother and again started to rise.. And then my alarm for work woke.

[нева]

That's the way I remember. One fairly well-known person, the dreamer, have invested in the program..maybe it will spread. In fact it is a Walker-obalka, but with some built-in software secrets. It is on the basis of a real place somewhere on earth, and there are supposed to wander and chat some time in the virtual and in the Wasps, remember and meet me there..)

[ронин]

read the book" our Rusko Castaneda" A. Korabelshikov. He really writes a lot about it. and fun,clear , understandable. on his website you some books download . better the print edition to read it , different feeling. the website itu-tai.com

[Новенький]

Do not understand Why to realize to control the dreams??? just for interest??? if I could ask questions on the night on your business and seek answers in dreams...it's still all right...

[ронин]

Do not understand Why to realize to control the dreams??? just for interest??? if I could ask questions on the night on your business and seek answers in dreams...it's still all right...

this is also possible. else his and other people's problems to solve. and find new facets in his tvorcheskie or work. potustoronnij unlimited and with help of the logic, i.e. left-hemispheric brain is not clear. develop the right hemisphere and the main left and right need to balance. otherwise you will be like crazy. dangerous occupation. there have been examples of those who left and was lost there for a long time or did not have enough energy or strength to return. .for security need a guide or teacher

[Новенький]

were examples of those who left and was lost there for a long time or did not have enough energy or strength to return. .for security need a guide or teacher

nah for me the dream is a standalone workshop my body, and to interfere in its mechanisms, I do want, though inspiration and ideas if you come in a dream, then I Wake up and write it down and think about it !! Though a little cunning, I sleep with headphones with an audio program called "I - magnet for money"

[ронин]

interesting. like a magnet works? I think if the person takes his place and goes on his safe path. no a magnet is not needed. everything will come and everything you need will be unnecessary and will go away. only one problem and is very huge how to find his place and path and what gait itdi.....

[Новенький]

now a lot of trainings are not expensive there: find your destiny!!!( I also haven't found myself in life, but the path to this, I know...) money Magnet listen... until wealth is not amassed, But somehow Believe in him..somehow soothes))) sometimes sit on the bench, boring, will include "money Magnet" on the player, and after 20 minutes you suddenly attracted to men in expensive shops, a cafe, ie there is crammed with rich people and took place...but the money not yet received..but I think everything is still ahead)))

[нева]

to include "money Magnet" on the player, and after 20 minutes you suddenly attracted to men in expensive shops, a cafe, ie there is crammed with rich and composed people...

It is not the fact that rich people are crammed in there, people from Pontus, Yes..)

[Новенький]

not the fact that rich people are crammed in there, people from Pontus, Yes..)

..depends on who and how it looks...I like seeing rich people...the other sees only the alcoholics in beer...the third General, sees nothing , sits at home

[ронин]

I read yesterday the book. quote can to help. food for thought
".........***Mountain Alipogene in a dream like a voluntary death, when man does not resist his death, a, on the contrary, wants her relaxing and trusting only of her fascinating dreams. Chatty consciousness becomes unsteady, chaotic. My afternoon immersed in bezradychy. dark ocean of inner space, where there are on and off the images of frolicking like electric rays, creating in-depth series of light formations moving, flashing, fading...the Man faintly smiles. He knows it's not death. This is a dream, a dream people returned. Sometimes perplexed, sometimes delighted, sometimes scared, sometimes a inconceivable treasures, which are abundant in space beyond waking consciousness. The world of dreams and reality as the great ocean contains everything: life and death, joy and sorrow, fear and adventure. You only need to learn how to identify which is which, because in the dream it is very hard to do.A person looks to their inner vision in a fascinating series of colored flares, burning in the dark and flowing into one another like the children's kaleidoscope. There was some pressure in the abdominal area, disturbing dive into the shimmering depths. You need to relax. Complete relaxation is the key to lucid dreaming. Deep breathing and concentration on a point just below the navel allows you to quickly remove the blocking voltage. Instead of the unpleasant pressure at the stomach flowed in all directions soothing warmth. So. The person feels up to dip in a few moments. Here was a bright, but without dazzling other drivers orange spot - right before your eyes. You need to use a special technique to immerse yourself in it, while remaining in full consciousness. That's all. That was all... a quick flight in the dark and absorbing the sensation of falling up at the bottom of the endless starry sky...the great forest, the shimmering blue-green fluorescence. Blue and green sparks on the leaves of trees, bushes, in the grass. Duaner examined my body and realized that today, the quality of awareness is far superior to all previous Dreaming practices. Despite the fact that today they were forbidden to practice this art, it was impossible to abandon another attempt to see the underside of the usual three-dimensional space. Last night, when they saw in a dream, lost Stas Antipov and Elena managed to catch and drag into the house. Nobody understood what happened. But everything was so obvious. The one who let them all into a shimmering world of dreams was calling them into the mysterious Dali, who dared to go is that the mythical taishin. Maybe. He was one of them. It doesn't matter. It was what they pitched their mysterious lands before stood on the edge of the colored forest benelam. Stas was not lost, he just made a step towards the Mystery. And who knows how far he has gone in this unfamiliar but which involve inexorably to his otherworldly forest.........
........- ARS went too deep in the second energy body, - Sana frowned at the edge of the forest and a very vividly imagined waking up after induced dreams of confused duenenhof.

The second energy body according to the concept of Monopolism they called the second energy potential of a person not involved in their everyday life. The name "banerg" had a profound esoteric underpinnings. Two halves, two forces, two energy bodies: "Dark" - "Body Beast" and "Marg" - "the Body of the Dragon." Due to the world and the world of the unknown, two Universes, which is the single configuration called "Man". According to ancient belief, true freedom could only be found anyone who has managed to balance these two Forces. And from there, from ancient times it is a mysterious name - "ARS", the center of perception that allows people to Realize. In the dream, the ARS is moved from the first energy field "of Dark" to the second energy field - "Marg". And if one gains the ability to capture him, he begins to perceive another reality, the "dark areas" as specific as he perceives his familiar world of material objects......"
from another book learned to start to realize in the dream, suffice it to say I'm in a dream<