TRANS

[Сехмет]

How would you define "hit" in the trance state? Are there any signs of it features? I can't understand when it comes. Help...

[Шалтай Балтай]

What is a trance state?
I assure You, everyone puts in this concept its meaning
Clearly, if you if you read the definition of a trance state (and I want to say no fit ) in a thread clever book it would be one thing, but now imagine this question you would have asked the Buddha. I think that getting the response you would get in a state of Samadhi, in other words - enlightened would.
But back on the ground. The fact that everyone would be invested in the definition of a particular state depends on the initial intentions and is determined by the level of evolutionary development, so to find the answer for You within myriad material/phenomenal of binero actually not possible.
There is a wise saying. Only the practise make perfect. Following this path over time, if the will of the gods, you will attain the state in which you do not need external confirmation of its truth.

[Шалтай Балтай]

by the way the above in any way does not negate the waste of time reading clever snijeg

[Маг.нет]

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And I identify easier the TRANS - altered state of consciousness, due to inhibition of its logical parts (left-brain) and/or the activation of abstract (right brain). While admitting that the notion of "TRANS" can be much wider, in any case, ISS (in my opinion) the main symptom.



Sincerely, MAG.no

[Шалтай Балтай]

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And I identify easier the TRANS - altered state of consciousness, due to inhibition of its logical parts (left-brain) and/or the activation of abstract (right brain). While admitting that the notion of "TRANS" can be much wider, in any case, ISS (in my opinion) the main symptom.



Sincerely, MAG.no

well, we already disagree.
for me, the concept of TRANS is much narrower and has nothing to do with ISS.
for me, the TRANS in the first place is due to stop the thinking process, that is VD. or mental chewing gum, names, many, more scientifically - off of the left (logical) hemisphere.
ISS can be caused by for example hallucinogene plants. And this is not trance, this nuthouse
By the way the mentally ill are also shifted assemblage point in relation to what is considered "normal" FF. they have the same ISS. But mentally ill, NOT TRANS.

[Сехмет]

Humpty Baltay Mage.noyou work/worked in this state, what feelings have you experienced? Looks like the state described by people as TRANS, all true. Clearly, all individuals, but surely is the main point, saying "Yes, I'm a trance/ altered state of consciousness!"

[Хаст]

IMHO, the TRANS is the lack of awareness, narrowing of consciousness, dive into the depths. To understand that you were in the trance only after the fact of awakening. Stop thinking + awareness this is not trance and meditation.

[Шалтай Балтай]

but surely is the main point, saying "Yes, I'm a trance/ altered state of consciousness!"

at the risk of being someone who wants to make an impression, well,okay,
say tag: no, this point does not exist

[Маг.нет]

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well, we already disagree.
for me, the concept of TRANS is much narrower and has nothing to do with ISS.
for me, the TRANS in the first place is due to stop the thinking process, that is VD. or mental chewing gum, names, many, more scientifically - off of the left (logical) hemisphere.
ISS can be caused by for example hallucinogene plants. And this is not trance, this nuthouse
By the way the mentally ill are also shifted assemblage point in relation to what is considered "normal" FF. they have the same ISS. But mentally ill, NOT TRANS.

Humpty Baltay I see no discrepancies in the understanding of "trance", there is a difference in understanding of "ISS". For me ISS is any state of consciousness with significant displacement of the assemblage point relative to a reference position (where the algorithms of the individual is minimized, automated or missing altogether). With regard to chemical "shift TS", in my picture of the world is the ISS (which the time before habituation), albeit with an element of pathology with regards to the mentally ill, then....... as such "General rule" or no, the basic position of the assemblage point all the individual and can change over time through the practice (developments personality of algorithms in a given position of the assemblage point), the fact that yesterday were given ISS, today may be a base position and it won't be ISS....... so about the mentally ill, their basic position of the assemblage point for them is not ISS, but if they will construida healthy, then it is ISS. I.e. at the same position of the assemblage point for some, it will be a normal everyday condition, it is possible for a different TRANS.......

Sekhmet, disable logic, and the transfer of "steering" a person to part of the subconscious, which can be described as "automatic control mechanisms of the organism and its interactions with the outside world." Ie one of the manifestations of the trance - state of "automatism".


Sincerely, MAG.no<

[Димас]

Sekhmetif you haven't got into a trance from reading the previous posts, a local businessman, I bring you the following signs
1. Relaxation of the muscles of the face and body
2. Rare and more deep breathing
3. A sense of calmness and warm comfort
4. Termination of voluntary movements, immobility, preservation of the adopted postures
5. The emergence of involuntary movements, such as small twitching of the hands and fingers
6. Slow if with closed eyes
7. Stop swallowing saliva
Even deliberately causing these phenomena, you will be able to enter into a trance, and noting their appearance, it will deepen.
Good luck!

[Сехмет]

1. Relaxation of the muscles of the face and body
2. Rare and more deep breathing
3. A sense of calmness and warm comfort
4. Termination of voluntary movements, immobility, preservation of the adopted postures
5. The emergence of involuntary movements, such as small twitching of the hands and fingers
6. Slow if with closed eyes
7. Stop swallowing saliva
Even deliberately causing these phenomena, you will be able to enter into a trance, and noting their appearance, it will deepen.

Thank you, honestly, was waiting for such a response. For other posts too, thanks, will watch, trying.

[АМЕА]

From the point of view of some classical physiologists - a state of hypnotic trance is defined by the logical decrease in the activity of right frontal and temporal lobes of the brain. This can be seen on the EEG and with the help of Neurogenerative (on the device of ANAS). However, there are many varieties of trances and altered States, in which the AMEA will show completely different pictures, something typical of Kundalini, something for other trance States.
http://ru-nmam.livejournal.com/875.html
http://neuro-amea.livejournal.com/5570.html
http://ru-nmam.livejournal.com/6738.html