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Post by monk » Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:31

Don't want to feel like a sucker, threw down the drain 8штук.. but it was so long and felt :( Recently purchased Photosonics Inner Pulse. Impressions (by session):

1) section a Dream "Day dream": it Starts with a smooth transition in the Delta-rhythms , which is a stop on 18 minutes. Then return to the updated state of wakefulness.
- sleep a bit and Wake up chipper? I would, of course, but not filled, may have some effect rest (lie because, in fact, eyes closed..), but sleep - no.

2) section Sleep, "Sleepy head, sweet dreams": get a Feel for how easy and fast you can fall asleep if you use the power of dual binaural beats. Feel free to remove your glasses or headphones, when you feel very sleepy.
- the same, tired to yawn, but no sleep

... about "deep sleep" and TKO already just not sure, not tried..

3) ENERGY RECHARGE section ,"Before work": Dual binaural beats with beta range on the low tones give the energy effect. For a mental lift before your workout or exercise.
well.. invigorating :)only wash in cold water invigorates much more cheerful)))

4) the "ENERGY CHARGE, "Full speed ahead":get Up and run! Tones the body and the brain whenever you feel slow
same thing, no miracles

5) the section of CREATIVITY/ VISUALIZATION,"the Dreaming images":For a soothing relaxation in the theta range and the appearance of the dreaming images
no dreaming of images, of even the rudiments (so.. some abstract geometric compositions of spots and stripes). except that THEN my head (I put this session right before bed, in the dark - by the way, sleep is not affected)

6) section the CREATIVITY/ VISUALIZATION, Visualization: Ability to visualize is not easy. This program is designed to help You acquire the skills of deep imaging. You have to visualize using this session. Use with active music
- how this program can help you acquire the skills of visualization, not caught... no way, same color and sound of tediousness (tried without active music, for want - maybe that's it? although I have very... very well! doubt)

7) section of Meditation, the "Body asleep, mind awake": the Program creates a dynamic condition in which the body rests and the mind is awake. It works similarly to programs that promote out of body".
the "out of body" didn't help (I'm serious :) - I know the feeling, according to previous practice.. but with this machine - alas, simply are no "outs", with the same success you can just lie down or meditate, free)

8) section, LEISURE/ ENTERTAINMENT ,"Nirvanamania ": Microcycles binaural beats with surf and octave progressions lead to the final 9 minutes of blissful energy-giving relaxation.
- "9 minutes of blissful energy-giving relaxation")))))))))))))
in beer Nirvana more than the 9 minutes.. was wondering when does the euphoria would begin and waited a few particularly vivid pulsation in the eye and the black... well ... the Buddha answered the question "what is it?" (in Nirvana): "the flame goes out"...

9) section RECREATION/ ENTERTAINMENT ,"Sensual magic": This program uses the excitement of the beta range of four colours .On the octave chakra, associated with sexuality. Make sure that the first person you will see when the session will end decent
- included at random, without reading what it is... I think it's better if "the first person you will see when the session ends," would be Dishonest, because there will be a strong desire to punch somebody in the face of grief... specifically - you'd never guess about any sexuality and chuvstvennyy magic, if not read about it in the manual, this is the most boring of all previous sessions (even those entertained at least a little, pinned type, but nothing of psychophysical didn't do)

10) section RECREATION/ ENTERTAINMENT , Kaleidoscope: an Exciting session offering experience with kaleidoscopic color images.
- I guess I'm all tired already.... in brief: one minute, half a minute more, after 5 seconds already waiting when changing themes? seeing that another topic is more boring than the previous one (I confess, the first 3 is even encouraged) - turn off the machine and reflect on the theme "well, I ahhhhhhhh"...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Aug 11, 2006 20:54

Well, You lohhhh... (sorry, joke). First of all, thank You for this work! I just laughed to tears when I read.
But seriously, You probably wonderful way to combine your faith in a miracle and high skepticism. Perhaps one of Your favorite things to do is to smash to smithereens, having examined the bones, another popular film.
I'll try to answer Your claim.

1. Sound and light training is not a magic wand, no pill, no beer, etc. It's just training. First impressions are all very different and strongly depend on a combination of various factors. In particular, on whether, under what Sauce (see the forum) You do, the brightness and volume from the initial level of development of imagination, right from the goals, from the experience with our inner world.
Usually all delights from first sessions come from creative people with a very well developed imagination (they need a little push), and the rest need some training and patience. But, more often, the situation is developing, as in the Bible: "those who Have multiplied those who have not – taken the last...". My former boss, for example, a very intelligent and calculated to the last detail man, but lost in situations that require quick non-standard decisions, once decided to try this technology. He was very pleased with himself, as successfully proved to myself that this is "garbage", as he thought, doesn't work.

2. Achieve remarkable sustainable results in a particular area is possible after 2-3 weeks of regular classes. And you have to be prepared for the fact that in this interval no significant changes You will not feel the effect of the Threshold.
"A healthy head even analginum does not help." If You have no problems and You don't set myself any particular goals for self-development (or You have no adequate way of measuring results), You never know that this technology works.

3. After securing a mind-machine, person, usually, begins haphazardly to try everything, forgetting about the principles of operation of this device. Our physiology is quite an inertia thing. For example, the peace and tranquility after the relaxation sessions can last for three days. When put in a row several different sessions, nothing good, except a headache, to expect this is not necessary.

4. The best way to be disappointed – it's too carefully to plan everything, and then worry that not all points of this brilliant plan came to fruition, though at times the end result of a much greater plan.
When mindmachines, it is not necessary to wait for something specific, a friend (not a TV), and you just have to let yourself go. Then for the "color and sound Sandstone" may start to appear (not always and not immediately) different images, paintings and even movie production of Your own brain.
One of the reasons for the growing popularity of mindmachine is the ability to make completely safe, with no harmful consequences and side effects a psychedelic journey through the depths of his psyche.

5. Session on the development of visualization provides a rise in brain-power frequency that is responsible in some way for visualization. In order to develop this very capacity is not enough to roll around and gnash their teeth "in the colour and sound of tediousness", and it is necessary against the backdrop of this session to visualization is to imagine something concrete and to manipulate these images.

6. The state of "body asleep, mind awake" is for proper learning anything, but is quite different from the outside bodily experience (OBE). Though this session works similar to programs encouraging WTO, but not identical. For the WTO needs more expansion as the carrier, and a stimulating frequency, and, again, training. However, from experience, I can see that some of the "guards" manage to fly at this session.

7. Now about the "sexy" session. Many of us have the illusion that other people are obliged to always feel the same, we are from the same incentives. Male and female sexuality are quite different from each other. In this session, incidentally, is dominated by frequencies in the range characteristic for the reduction of the vaginal muscles during orgasm.
Indeed, during the years of my practice I have several times faced with the fact that both men and women experienced a real orgasm during the session, but this happened during a normal alpha-relaxation sessions, at which most people experienced a pleasant relaxation and peace. And next time at the same session, the same man was not anything like. I attribute this to the effects of the Sauce.
By the way, on other systems, stated chakra (by the way, there is a blue color) nothing to do with real sexuality has not, and is responsible for the leadership, for the approval of their place in the pack. Interestingly, among herd animals, there is a ritual of self-affirmation when the dominant male performs a ritual sexual act with another male, standing below him on the hierarchy. This is done even dominant females performing motion inherent in males.
So, given Your desire to "punch somebody in the face", it can be stated that this session worked for You in the right way (joke).

8. I would also like to note that the translator has clearly encountered a number of difficulties in translating instructions into machine, so do not judge him severely, and sometimes read between the lines, based on common sense.

Good luck running!

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Post by Dimas » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:48

I agree that if you're expecting a certain thing "stuffed into the frame" unfortunately it is not happening...For me the machine has a ritual (listen to the alpha session).I think I became a much better to understand,memory has improved,the head almost ceased to hurt...But now I do not even know the machine any impact or "Conductor" of Andrey Patrushev...Andrew, and do You by any chance the bins are not lying around the session or the disk is a thread for skoreishego job "of a lifetime" with a big salary and a convenient schedule? :D :D :D :roll:

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:58

Well, actually, the Explorer is a universal thing. It is only necessary to aim properly to supply.
But, so to speak, in operational terms, it is better to use SIMORON or TRANSFERRING - to whom that is more suitable.

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Post by Dimas » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:47

Strange,but lately (two or three days) feel a strong decline forces (4 days ago stopped listening to "Explorer" like You,Andrew, and recommended.Started macrobiotic exercises for Transferring),I was recommended,but once a day to feel a certain "calm" euphoria...And not that tone, and physical strength is almost there,fall asleep on the go today in the subway, even almost fell,standing with closed eyes and his legs buckled.I'm also somewhat worried,sorry...by the Way, today was my last exam and three positions "surpassed" a passing grade,although,frankly, not prepared...;)Acted again on Transerfinga just calmed down and was ready to accept any result (which I was, to put it mildly,shocked)...School I 11 years ago had finished and then, as they say, all that passed-passed..;)Andrew,you mentioned here about the characteristics of the sessions for the WTO, You have no chance for such a machine,and then I have these WTO does not want to happen?!...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:22

Congratulations on passing your exams!
For those who have a history of injury of the spine and TBI this is a normal feeling when starting out energy. A week or two-or three "strikes", or drop the case...
Do better Norbekova. He holistic developed over the years a system (a set of exercises is not great).
WTO You'll get it when you bring the body in perfect order. For the WTO need good energy, no session will not help. Yes, I do, unfortunately, and no time. It is a tedious and lengthy pastime – programming light and sound sessions.

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Re: something disappointing..tell me what I neopost

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Sun Aug 13, 2006 23:15

monk wrote:don't want to feel like a sucker, threw down the drain 8штук.. but it was so long and felt :( Recently purchased Photosonics Inner Pulse.
To restore Your shattered self-esteem, offer to pay the cost of the hire mind of the machine during the period that You have it and get the remaining money back.

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Re: something disappointing..tell me what I neopost

Post by monk » Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:18

Андрей Патрушев wrote:...
A huge thank you for the detailed review; in fact, my goal was to understand what kind of critter. Yes, I am a skeptic with a belief in miracles :roll: :lol: :lol: It's a pity that miracles broke off, but training in this area - it is clear and personally I need (though documentation, I mean the original, not promises training :wink:)
Dimas wrote: and then I have these WTO does not want to happen
(sorry for offtopic) try it at 5 in the morning to Wake up 5 minutes to take deep breaths and on the flank :) I usually get things a couple of short dreams, and think "nothing will happen today, well and figs with it" (and somehow every time... :? ) there is a transition: just feel like you turns back, preserved consciousness, in control, only during the coup like a white, like a second, vibrating, leather covered. Once on the back, just know that you can stand (or fly, in the mood :) ) I have this method on http://soznan.dyndns.org read, turned out immediately, without preparation, and I had never worked... try, only the first feeling can be very surprising)))))))
Albus wrote: To ... offer to pay the cost of mind rental car for the period that You have it and get the remaining money back.
Thanks for that - always nice to know that there choice.. However, after an exhaustive answer my Andrew Loh-the feeling become more comfortable :)[/code]

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Re: energy

Post by monk » Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:37

Андрей Патрушев wrote:WTO, You'll get it when you bring the body in perfect order. For the WTO need a good energy.
by the way, very controversial... I mean for this WTO, in the "real" physical world, not in the astral plane (that would be under him, the astral plane, neither understood..). Muldoon generally believed that on the contrary, the more people, the easier way out - and that train he argued (and he was a meticulous man, and no occult fantasies, in this issue, his credibility is very high)

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Re: energy

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:03

monk wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:WTO, You'll get it when you bring the body in perfect order. For the WTO need a good energy.
by the way, very controversial... I mean for this WTO, in the "real" physical world, not in the astral plane (that would be under him, the astral plane, neither understood..). Muldoon generally believed that on the contrary, the more people, the easier way out - and that train he argued (and he was a meticulous man, and no occult fantasies, in this issue, his credibility is very high)
Yes, I agree. But the disease of the disease are different. A normal spine is necessary for the WTO. And that, in practice, in my eyes, so to speak, a few times confirmed.

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Post by dmitry » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:55

a Normal spine to the WTO required
Well, I wouldn't make such categorical statements. It's just Your experience. Far from exhaustive.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Aug 17, 2006 15:55

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Post by БРОДЯГА » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:59

[quote="Dimas"]Strange,but recently (two or three days) feel a strong decline forces (4 days ago stopped listening to "Explorer" like You,Andrew, and recommended.Started macrobiotic exercises for Transferring),I was recommended,but once a day to feel a certain "calm" euphoria...And not that tone, and physical strength is almost there,fall asleep on the go today in the subway, even almost fell,standing with closed eyes and his legs buckled.I'm also somewhat worried,sorry...by the Way, today was my last exam and three positions "surpassed" a passing grade,although,frankly, not prepared...Acted again on Transerfinga just calmed down and was ready to accept any result (which I was, to put it mildly,shocked)...School I 11 years ago had finished and then, as they say, all that passed-passed..Andrew,are you here mentioned about the characteristics of the sessions for the WTO, You have no chance for such cars,and then I have these WTO does not want to happen?!...[/quote]


Dimas, refers to the "Reality Transurfing" by Vadim Zeland? Or else?

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Post by Князевский » Sat Mar 29, 2008 20:39

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Post by Dimas » Mon Mar 31, 2008 14:29

DRIFTER
Yes,Zelandovskoj transerfing...and fatigue IMHO from habit or from the "oppression" of channels,or the adaptation period..I've been there,then goes away.

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Post by Самурай » Fri Apr 04, 2008 14:31

monk wrote:try it at 5 in the morning to Wake up 5 minutes to take deep breaths and on the flank :) I usually get things a couple of short dreams, and think "nothing will happen today, well and figs with it" (and somehow every time... :? ) there is a transition: just feel like you turns back, preserved consciousness, in control, only during the coup like a white, like a second, vibrating, leather covered. Once on the back, just know that you can stand (or fly, in the mood :) ) I have this method on http://soznan.dyndns.org read, turned out immediately, without preparation, and I had never worked... try, only the first feeling can be very surprising)))))))
I wonder anyone have worked the way monka?! As I understand it, this is the famous lucid entrance into the dream Laberge...

But here's the thing, if you start practicing after 6 hours of sleep as suggest, that sleep does not work (and even more after energeticaly a breath), I think it's because of the notorious a 1.5 hour cycle, i.e., after 6 h ends a full cycle, and you're fresh as a Daisy... Even with assurances (in the article at the link monka), which, like, okay, if you won't sleep tonight tomorrow will work out - those guys, today and tomorrow, and tomorrow...

I tried to deceive myself - started after 5 hours of sleep, but there it was... REM sleep starts-just at the end of a 1.5 hour cycle, and if, immediately after 5 hours to start, then - prematurely, i.e., deep sleep more and you to blunt cut, when not to the OS with the WTO (1,5+1,5+1,5+1,0...not enough 0.5 hours)...

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Post by Dimas » Fri Apr 04, 2008 20:54

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I also try to,you know,worked but..when I myself get up by the alarm and the neighbors brawl for example, he began,or from dreamstalker woke up,but the breath I didn't use,because I know what the wind pumping energy..I definitely will not sleep!

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Dimas wrote:Samurai
I also try to,you know,worked but..when I myself get up by the alarm and the neighbors brawl for example, he began,or from dreamstalker woke up,but the breath I didn't use,because I know what the wind pumping energy..I definitely will not sleep!
Worked OS or WTO?! Ie, if you used to say that the WTO does not happens now with this method, everything is OK?!

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Post by Dimas » Mon Apr 07, 2008 13:59

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Sometimes I'm fully conscious I enter into a dream,sometimes rising a foot above the body,it depends.If you meditate (focus attention),then rather get the defective WTO,because all I can't raise above the body and don't know what to do with it.VAS in the OS,if something interferes with sleep,for example, mask of the Stalker on the head :)

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Dimas wrote:Guest
Sometimes I'm fully conscious I enter into a dream,sometimes rising a foot above the body,it depends.If you meditate (focus attention),then rather get the defective WTO,because all I can't raise above the body and don't know what to do with it.VAS in the OS,if something interferes with sleep,for example, mask of the Stalker on the head :)
and I have something not clear.
at work, sit when and if you sleep happy, you feel that the thoughts run quickly, it became clear the images and colours, but the body does not feel anything at all, I want to get out of it and that come out of this state :(
notice that feeling you experience when you badly want to sleep and sit on a chair where you can sleep, but not comfortably, in short when I am suffering.

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Post by начинающий » Sun Apr 04, 2010 16:01

Andrew, and do You by any chance the bins are not lying around the session or the disk is a thread for skoreishego job "of a lifetime" with a big salary and a convenient schedule?
Dimas how solved this problem? if so, how? This is my main goal, just the current hate, especially the boorish headmistress. :evil: Put this goal with Explorer, twice for 15 days while that does not happen. :(
I wonder if Innerpulse any session with which you can set a goal?

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Post by Dimas » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:47

beginner
I have decided,wait,not all at once :) I of course listened to 3-4 for this 8)

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Post by начинающий » Mon Apr 05, 2010 13:18

Dimas wrote:beginner
I have decided,wait,not all at once :) I of course listened to 3-4 for this 8)
Enough Explorer or need something else?

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Post by Dimas » Mon Apr 05, 2010 13:39

beginner
If you have a machine,listen to the alpha session (relaxation).

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Post by начинающий » Mon Apr 05, 2010 14:40

Dimas
Is, listen, today is exactly a month. :)
Thanks for the tips az I hope will work. :wiz

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