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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:46

Colleagues, read your thread on EEG, here's my thoughts.

There is a machine - of the ANAS - home personal device for registration of infraslow electrical activity of the brain. It is a clone of the device Neuroanesthesiology (NEC), the production of one Moscow NGO.
Unlike medical neuroenergetics of ANAS logs, and analyzes the potential difference between the reference point (hand) and active (scalp) in the standard EEG leads, using a standard EEG Cup electrodes horsebang.

In contrast to the classical EEG method of ANAS registers the biopotentials of the brain in milivolt range.
The informative value of these potentials is higher than in the EEG known connection infraslow electrical activity of the brain to consumption of glucose in different parts of the brain. That is, the higher the potential difference the higher activity of brain structures under the electrode.

In addition to monopolar leads (hand-head), of ANAS allows you to measure the biopotentials in the bipolar leads (e.g. the temple-the temple). Thus there is the ability to monitor megalochary asymmetry of brain activity under the influence of various factors.

Methods NEK/of ANAS is currently used functional diagnosis of the problems of cerebral energy metabolism (glucose metabolism), problems of cerebral blood flow.
The Method is also popular among psychologists, physiologists, hypnotist in studies of the patterns of activity of brain structures.

The whole machine is realized in the housing with the battery compartment has its own display to reflect izmerenij potentials and a block of internal memory for 10 min. experiment.
For data analysis used oryginalny software for PC.

Here's the info... If interested - I can tell you all the details. The development of the threads on this Forum will help to ensure that the ANAS can be purchased from the Psychotronics.

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:33

Already tried it on and tested the effect of several instruments of the cartridges and drawing rooms. Now I know exactly how they work. Those devices which we have I protectie first purely on the sensations and positive results. But also confirmed its earlier vyskazany feeling. Short box eksperimentov large. Unless of course the people want. But the fact that the instrument really shows the state I also checked with help. different instruments and devices. It was interesting. I am a former laboratory technician of chemical-physical ishitani and me honey don't feed give on all sides to try. Habit and personal curiosity. Personally checked. But I could be wrong about their feelings and other things. But everyone saw who was the results on the face. Everything as it is-confirmed.By the way Things don't know how is called the type Organika but those that Michael did. So on this device was clearly expressed what I used and OMEA checked. One generates a increase of vitality and the other way around reduces excessive pressure and tension. If the device to determine its condition then you can boldly act to increase or decrease . Yes, and as a chamber react. Amazing. But your eyes I still believe it. The device-however all the shows. I'd like it should have. In schools it would be useful for such devices It is my opinion. Because students may not perceive the information from the stress which affects learning ability. And then defined the stress-relaxation at it!!!!!!!!!! Identified low tone on Organic or Rodini or svetlicka him to raise energy. In General, that the Hosh and can do meditation or just altario-bodendorfer glyadish and all okay. I liked. Just write checks. Not for advertising. And for a statement -a THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:38

By the way all diseases of the nerves and heightened nervous state of stress.And it's a tool to identify stress situations .in the Bud the stress caught and Bang his alhashimi or something.And glyadish :D .

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:20

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:But my eyes I still believe
Salsali more and more technical, if you can

1. It vugdelic?
2. What it shows?
It is desirable in the screenshots............

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:35

Looks simple.
Shows the potential difference in the form of numbers.
That's all :)

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:40

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Shows the potential difference in the form of numbers.
between what and what?
only one digit shows?
like the system needs a frequency to copy?
and some Ohm meter poduchatsya.....
a photo or description there is a miracle of nature?

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Fri Apr 23, 2010 13:25

It's not stealgrab,which shows alpha-beta-theta.He is the OHM-meter between the hand and the point on the head or two points on the head.Measures every 6 seconds 100 times writes to memory.
Shows only one digit.15900 price R :?

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 14:15

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Is not stealgrab,which shows alpha-beta-theta.He is the OHM-meter between the hand and the point on the head or two points on the head.Measures every 6 seconds 100 times writes to memory.
Shows only one digit. :?
People, still not)

Explain: Since the scalp can be removed potentials in milivolts range (in contrast to the fast activity of the EEG, which is known, is in microvolt). These potentials are caught and some regular EEG, but usually they are not taken into account - different task.

The studied potentials - the so-called level of constant potentials (SCP) or DC-shifts in bourgeois, reflect the tensions of biochemical processes in the brain, over which we put the sensor. The bourgeoisie called this technology DC-EEG, EEG that is DC.

This so-called verhotina brain activity with chastotoy from 0 to 1 Hz.
Under it sharpened and technology NEK/of ANAS.

One should clearly understand the nature of the data generation of electrical impulses: In contrast to EEG, where wave activity is caused by the summation of postsynaptic potentials, SCP occurs in the walls of blood vessels of the brain due to the transmembrane concentration difference of protons. In short, the more acidic flowing from the brain the blood, the higher the polarization of the vessel wall. Thus, it is electricity I s as if the "secondary".

It is clear that the more the structure of the brain at the moment, the more it consumes glucose, the more acidic products of degradation (carbon dioxide, lactate) gets into the bloodstream. Acidification (acidosis) of cerebral blood causes an increase in the potential difference between the reference point (hand) and scalp.

This methodology was developed 30 years ago in the Institute of brain of the Russian Academy of medical science, patented, and is now applied in functional diagnostics in de patented device Neuroanesthesiology neck.

Of ANAS - a clone of this device, especially adapted for use in the home and psycho-physiological experiment without medical ambitions and other "nonsense". I can only say that the medical NEC costs from 200 to 400 sput, and it is, as you know another song.

But the data of the tension processes in the brain, we can ONLY get with PET of emissionnogo positron tomography, by tracking the dynamics of utilization of radioactive labeled glucose....

And then.... it turns out the scanner on the palm, for the price of 1 examination on the PET, and it is absolutely harmless, individually at home....<

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 14:27

Now that shows the device of ANAS, and how to interpret it and use:

1. SCP - slowly varying potential difference, 1 is logged every 6 seconds. On the instrument display reflected the measured value in mV.

2. The essence of the Patent underlying the NEK/of ANAS that a clinically healthy person there is a certain range of values of UPP. So. in a state of quiet wakefulness for us specific indicators in the area of 8 mV (type normal tone, 36,6 on the thermometer). Deviations from this value in either direction talking about activation/deactivation of brain structures. A significant excess of the normal value says about the condition of metabolic oxidative stress, a stay which swasno with self-poisoning of the brain by free radicals.

On the front panel of ANAS there is a group of colored LEDs that light up when each measurement step by step analyzing the measured indicators of SCP.

Information about the 10-minute experiment are stored in the instrument memory and can be transferred to software, which allows you to schedule the activity of brain regions in time. You can plan your study so that you will see the response of the brain to presented stimuli, the stimuli and load.

Such factors can be anything - any mindmachine and other gadgets, medicines, emotions, workload, psychological and physiological nature.

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 14:37

But as the picture here to throw?

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 14:41

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Is not stealgrab,which shows alpha-beta-theta.He is the OHM-meter between the hand and the point on the head or two points on the head.Measures every 6 seconds 100 times writes to memory.
Shows only one digit.15900 price R :?
Sorry, what do You understand by the term OHM-meter?

Of ANAS, as any EEG is a voltmeter, actually....

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 14:45

And that is, again, informative, fast SCP is superior to EEG, especially in the hands of Amateurs. It is no secret that proper interpretation of the EEG is the art. By the way, the soft starter detects a distinct negative correlation with spectral power of alpha-rhythm EEG, if someone says anything)

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 14:55

Add where applicable:

Sports medicine and fitness industry, for dosing of the training load, study stress, the selection of relaxation techniques, identification of the peak of the sports form. (Olympic national teams of the Russian Federation)

Psychophysiology - definition of individually adjustable profile human resource capabilities, ability to handle stress. Admission agents / experts responsible processes.

Medicine - diagnostic problems of cerebral blood flow. of metabolic disorders. Tumors, strokes

Hypnology - determination of depth of immersion in a trance.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Apr 23, 2010 15:02

АМЕА wrote:by the Way, the soft starter detects a distinct negative correlation with spectral power of alpha-rhythm EEG, if someone says anything)
This means that SCP more caracterisee Delta activity?

АМЕА wrote:This so-called verhotina brain activity with chastotoy from 0 to 1 Hz.

Under it sharpened and technology NEK/of ANAS.
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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 15:20

No, Delta activity lies in the microvolt range.

UPP characterizes the integrated neural activity from the point of view of consumption of glucose - that is, the metabolic activity of brain tissue as a whole.

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Post by Эзотерик » Fri Apr 23, 2010 18:23

Humpty Dumpty! As the saying goes, "you shashechki or to go?" - you study the brain activity and the influence of the instruments or EEG to look?)))))

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Apr 23, 2010 18:29

Don't understand the question
I just clarify how it works....
Something wrong?

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 18:55

Guys, don't fight, it's not worth it))))

Questions normal - because really, we need to understand how it works!)))

there is some difficulty for the original understanding, and it is in the Nature of the recorded potentials. UPP, though recorded with EEG apparatus is fundamentally different from the fast EEG waves. If you're interested - look in a Network "SCP verhotina electrical activity".

But I had better explain himself, so easy to understand, without zaum).
Ask, dear...

So, where are we all gonna make it from ANAS:

In our hands - a very informative indication of the work of the brain, and with Charterhouse functions - we can rearrange the active electrode in the particular area of the head. You give the test load, the instrument impacts and see what changes in the brain occur. What are the dynamics of the process, the direction (increase-decrease).

Written experiment you can always scroll with the arrow keys on the keyboard front panel of the device. If you are not lazy - you can transfer the data to a computer and get a graph of the dynamics of UPP. The software is able to analyze and store the experiment data in the *.amg or.fam files. The software is given in the kit.

There are principles of interpretation of the result of the experiment, the dynamics UPP tells about the plasticity/rigidity of the national Assembly, the resource capabilities of the brain, the involvement of the cerebral hemispheres in a particular process, impact, and, most importantly - the usefulness/harmfulness of exposure is ON YOU.

Unless an EEG can give such information?

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 20:46

You intersen boss (neurofeedback)? And then for ANAS there is a place... Try to manage your condition (brain activity), looking at the colored diodes that lights up on the control panel.... Solid green is normal, calm bodrstvovanie. Now make the device to light a first white light bulb - "moderately lowered", and then blue - "significantly reduced"...

And now fix it.... Happened? Okay, now let's Wake up, speed up brain activity, light yellow brain light bulb "moderately elevated" and then red "significantly upgraded"...

First you don't succeed? And the yogi turns at times! And it is the ability to self-control, and she trains with the help of ANAS in particular.

Here you have a simple barefoot!

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Fri Apr 23, 2010 22:19

I do not really understand how two of our employees who were not in a trance showed "significantly reduced".This has raised doubts in the reliability of the results or the correctness of their interpretation.

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 22:31

Andrew, it's not surprising many people are in a state of reduced energy metabolism of the brain. This may be due to your system overwork, nevirapine, stuffiness in the room and other factors. Here it shows the device - something is wrong, attention, your condition otlichaetsya from ideal.

In addition, the influence of the load, You've seen dynamics of the activity of Your employees managed to "Wake up", causing the activation process, until pokazania "norm".

Well-chosen functional tests allow using techniques of ANAS to separate adverse functional status of organic disorders. In the case of Your employees, organic violations were found - vasomotor reactions in the norm, which confirmed the sample hyperventilation)

That shows the device is a functional state, it is changeable in a normal person to a greater extent than body temperature. By the way, if you measured the body temperature from their employees - You would have gasped and ceased to believe that 36 and 6 is the norm - no one ever does)))). So, you would a thermometer sucks?

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Fri Apr 23, 2010 22:34

I thought the staff we not particularly overworked,so it seemed strange :)

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 22:41

And what about the interpretation of what he saw in a short conversation, I did not You to ship features of development of alkalosis and its causes. I can say one thing - low current performance of UPP indicate low energy in the part of the brain, over which there is a sensor.

The measurement was carried out only in nizalova (Fpz) allocation under the scheme 10-20, and for completeness it would be necessary to see at least the vertex (Cz) and occipital (Oz), and the vertex indices generally higher than in other areas (so-called dome-shaped distribution of the UPP). To avoid States of distress Dmitry I would recommend to study the relationship of the activity of the hemispheres, placing the sensors at points Td and Ts (whiskey).
By the way, this steadily reduced the value of SCP may indicate distress due to previously suffering considerable mental stress. To cut off this assumption can also use functional tests, for example. significant cognitive or emotional load. a further drop of potential under load would indicate a depletion of energy (biochemical) resources bark UM...

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 22:44

Andrew, we only looked Your employees in their Mosk))) and got your laptop.... what is hidden or is hiding)

I'm telling you - ANAS - a window into the world of the human brain!))))


And if you do not sleep for a night or two, the brain really blue is getting tested.

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Post by АМЕА » Fri Apr 23, 2010 22:50

And what about the adequacy of data interpretation.... I will say this... you know how creepy a child in a state of oxidative stress with UPP more than 50 MB? Nightmare......shortness of breath, congestion, fear in his eyes.... Head boiling....
I have a lot of Rabaul and norm and pathology, including mental retardation and mental retardation. And insulinoma and Parkinson's and Alzheimer's, had seen enough, believe me....

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