Is it worth it????

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 23:17

Try to ask your question in the Guest mode - did not work

Good day to all!!!
The question is simple - whether to engage in such practices to people who basically lost the stereo picture sound perception? I have one ear hearing aid, and another for symmetry.

Ростислав · Post by **Ростислав** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:31

A difficult question! Well, the eyes see?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:27

Worth it if You at least ka-it is able to localize the sound source in space.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 16:03

Берендей wrote:Try to ask your question in the Guest mode - did not work
Good day to all!!!
The question is simple - whether to engage in such practices to people who basically lost the stereo picture sound perception? I have one ear hearing aid, and another for symmetry.

Yes, I answered this question recently...

In mindmachine 70% efficiency gives a luminous effect. If even a little hearing left ear, which "does not hear", and the disks will act. The fact that binaural beats work even when the sound is presented on close-to-threshold volume level.

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 17:05

Ростислав wrote:tough question! Well, the eyes see?

A sin to laugh at the poor....

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 17:07

Anonymous wrote:Is, if You have ka-it is able to localize the sound source in space.

The man who hears the sound only in one ear (with camera or without it) "hears the bell, but doesn't know where he is." Try it yourself - paste in one ear and something qualitatively insulating sound... will Immediately understand what I'm talking about

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 17:12

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
Берендей wrote:Try to ask your question in the Guest mode - did not work
Good day to all!!!
The question is simple - whether to engage in such practices to people who basically lost the stereo picture sound perception? I have one ear hearing aid, and another for symmetry.
Yes, I answered this question recently...
In mindmachine 70% efficiency gives a luminous effect. If just a little hearing remained in the ear, then the drives will act.

As I understood from the forum in General, the effectiveness of a "Guide" and similar audiopathik depends on the binaural perception. Correct me please if I am wrong... And about the use mindmachine long thinking, but as one character-"Cho-ochkuyu, Slavs"- still they cost a lot and efficacy of MM in the "onogost" for me is highly questionable

However, thank you all for your response to my question.

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 17:14

Can enlighten me about the use of Neurophone? It seems to me that in my case he just might give stereo and binaural wave...

As I understand it from my own wanderings on the Internet - here are gathered people in the know. Thanks in advance.
PS Just do not have anything like:"When Patrick was 14, he invented the Neurophone®", all this in a network the sea. Interested in mostly personal experience, or opinion of a qualified expert (as I myself am a techie (mechanical engineering) pure water)
P. S 2: A. Kabanov on this forum promised to give Neurofen rental after the acquisition. Well, as the reviews? Did you try this device is hearing-impaired.

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 19:57

I apologize to the community for the previous post.
In addition to hearing from me hands curves (search does not know how to use it)

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Found the topic on Echofon. Satisfied. Already I want to own such a car.

Владимир_В · Post by **Владимир_В** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 0:18

is worth-it is...the feelings,the sound produced by MM this is not some kind of Alyona Apina

I am professionally associated with music,but nevertheless,have multiple hearing in one ear(dived at the age of 12 years to 25 meters at Once,and without any purging...)..the brain is all one will hear and see

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 14:50

Thank You Vladimir! About such a response and waited. For myself I know that people with normal hearing have very little understanding problems of the hearing impaired. As they say-"fed no one is hungry". And the description almost all new psi-technology (and the MM, and drives the distinguished Andrei Patrushev) the emphasis is just on binaural perception and other delights "of life in Health"... so I like the fifth day of regularly listening to "Explorer" (buddy gave me a rental) and never caught that the "binaural wave"

Doing everything according to instructions, but the only effect - fall asleep after 15-20 min of listening (about the same time he always started to struggle with sleep in the lectures of the University "muttering"). Listen via a laptop+wired inductor+programmable digital hearing aid "Santa". Hearing aid settings align the individual audiogram to the level of a healthy person (for 64 channels). The inductor is also only transfers magnetic waves, distortion from poor quality materials is close to zero. So we can say that the sound comes to me in almost perfect condition, BUT only in one ear. Patiently waiting for any effect (I understand that everyone has different mentality!!!). If anything will hatch-I will unsubscribe. And then your drives will get the MM will (although my gut tells me taehoon/Neurofen I rather than MM). Then it will make sense to spend money. The entire work is conceived with the purpose to somehow powstancow sick soup

Идущая вперед · Post by **Идущая вперед** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 16:23

I'm not a doctor... but science has come to the conclusion that if suffering vision it means that the person does not want to see something specific... i.e. visual channel is closed from the clamps of stress, etc.... vision decreases people which jars something in this world or who is intentionally ruining his eyes reading lying in the dark... maybe in this world there are some sounds that you don't want to hear???
escho example... liver disease develop in those who are holding back a lot of anger keeps it in yourself... or then recently read an article so there it has been argued that liver hurts those who do not like and berates the government and the power...
if the brain give the job to the connection (via a rainbow for example), the subconscious will begin to work in this direction
there are good affirmations to improve health or can be prescribed of the piles and work in this direction...
well you probably came to a lot of doctors paid the money to the immeasurable (I know this problem my dad is hard of hearing and visually impaired) when he used MM he had been improving and then dumped to the country... and then he just became too lazy to work on yourself and improve to pass the time....)
I wish You a speedy recovery and all the best

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:32

Going forwardYou are in the water look though not a doctor!
I do have a bunch of doctors. The verdict of modern medicine - "otosclerosis" (illness of unknown etiology in which a pair of hammer-anvil that transmits sound from the eardrum further into the inner ear, is overgrown with a strange substance). Hear now my right ear (where the hearing aid) - sound volume 60 DB and above, and the left -from 110 DB and above (for normal people it is almost the threshold of pain). Treat these things mess just quickly, in about-Oh, very pretty penny and without any guarantees of the result. Met people that after such operations, "the wall climb" from the constant noise in the ears ("we warned you about possible complications after surgery")

. Therefore I went a few years ago to her grandmother, a wise woman, which hearing did not return, but drew a picture fully consistent with the theory that You're talking about... And I began my Way. I thought that if my sore occurred due to unexplained internal contradictions (at the level of the psyche), and to treat it is necessary not logic or technology. Tried a lot (Norbekov, the Queen, Taichi, touched qigong) - no result, though you burst (although in terms of self-understanding has advanced far). But I was not discouraged. God is great and wise. He even religious teachings are one and the same different people gave different (in their mentality). And the psychic practices and even more. These same search for MY OWN practice (i.e., a set of exercises, technical means etc etc.) and brought me to this forum. So I ask....
P. S. thank you so much for the kind words
P. P. S Stupid question - what is a rainbow-arc, and where "THERE are good affirmations"????

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:22

Stir my soul Going forward

I want to elaborate the question to the community and personally to Andrei Patrushev:
"It is when my problems to master the practice of the distinguished Andrei Patrushev, is it efficient to use mindmachine or devices of the type Echofon/Neurofen? If you can be effective -what is it?"
The most important thing for me now is to catch the condition in which the improvement occurs, to catch it, to remember and to work with him. (It's like physical exercise - there is after school slight pain in the muscles, so they said, then go right). What is this technique - it does not matter, though, dancing with a tambourine around the campfire (just not human sacrifice - I'm Orthodox).
I came here openly and ask for help. If there is no confidence in MY success - say so.
A reply like:"In your problems of confidence in the positive changes not" will be greatly appreciated and I'm going to keep looking. I spent looking for a lot of years and money.
And thank you all for your patience and for your kind words.

And explanation of my concerns here (I don't know how to insert a link to the topic of this forum, in the address bar is http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=1184&start=0):
Tatiana wrote(a):
The Question To Andrey Patrushev. Listen to the drive Conductor 8 days. The state during these days was a little depressed. Indifference, passivity. Suggested that perhaps the reason the headphones in the left earphone sounds louder than the right. I decided to wear headphones on the contrary: right ear left earpiece, on the left - right, which sounds quieter. And You know, the result is felt immediately. After listening to there was confidence, cheerfulness. To listen finished somewhere around 19,30 and until 00,00 could not sleep, the energy was boiling. Question: is it permissible donning headphones)))
Reply Andrei Patrushev:
The fact that the Conductor is really important the correct location of the sound channels. Not seldom it happens that the channels are reversed, or due to improper desoldering on the player or on the headphones. Another option can take place when the person is inverted hemisphere of the brain. Thus, it is necessary to focus on your feelings. You did the right thing.
And what if ONE channel is the ONLY option?

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Идущая вперед · Post by **Идущая вперед** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 15:35

the main thing is not to give up, not with his legs dangling and not to lose hope and optimism

the power of words and suggestion to treat brain cancer patients (about this lot of books is) just if a person is confident in his victory all the obstacles in this world is nothing to him....
people simply do not believe in the victory cease to fight and are eager to shift all their problems on Vasya Pupkin or AESA Pushkin...
rainbow-arc is on the forum in the instruments and programs... escho you a PM I can distribute the weight of such prog....
and stiffness stress and other negative removes the disk Explorer...
it is in this respect ahead of the rest

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 18:23

Going forward:
I would appreciate bend to the PM. I eat everything that can help to understand. And for the Explorer I took the advice of a friend you trust... But I don't feel ANYTHING yet, that is nothing. Neither bad nor good. You can certainly assume that you just don't notice the changes yet, because of the nature of mind(tired, upset, thick-skinned, stubborn, drunk, stoned - underline)

Therefore all doubts. And the work I want and obstinacy enough faith in yourself (just to catch and feel), but "If even a little hearing left ear, which "does not hear", and the disks will act." (A. Patrushev, a little higher).
YES, IN FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THERE ARE QUITE! THEY WILL HEAR ONLY THE NOISE OF A JET ENGINE! Bone conduction ear on this and the earlier work, there was even difficulty in diagnosis.

Идущая вперед · Post by **Идущая вперед** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 19:56

but the Guide is still disc Healing... something has to break the ear...to try a lot and choose the best for yourself.... To SEPARATE the wheat FROM the CHAFF... still have the disc Massage the brain... ie, binaural beats massage your brain activity ( I wait not use too strong for me then day 2 ride after 30 minutes of eavesdropping)... for me and my purposes that is a mind machine and wheels especially.... played a huge positive role... and specifically promoted in the direction of the target...

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 20:21

Damn it! Again, "binaural". Yes no I can smell it Coming! No way! There are in fact offset frequencies, different frequency right/left channel. I have physiologically (or pathologically) only left or only right. Shorter MONO! Ask dad like this. I can "not understand" because of my tongues but I don't know how to explain it!
If I could confidently and competently said, the effect is due to language, music, the Holy Spirit in the end - I would maybe not regilsja would be on the site and would not ask questions. Took -tried it own my own-worked-heppy end! And everything is happy and I am not in the subject.

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 20:28

Like, spit on the money and will take MM. It would be a pity if you do something wrong, will be disappointed and will remain in full confidence that all it is...but (sorry), followed by going in the trash.
And it was a goldfish, just ask should have the right.
Remember the cartoon about Vovk in tridevyatom Kingdom - also the guy is not just rides like a magic essence to communicate. Not taught.

Идущая вперед · Post by **Идущая вперед** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:50

and in MM, 70% of the effect is due to the eyes and points... maybe through the eyes and the soup will start to work ??? patamu in the brain are all interconnected ....and that there hatch... if you do not help then You can have the family there to relax... and try not to torture and not risk someone who does not drink champagne... and suddenly the audio signals will go directly to the brain and to treat Tama the function which is responsible for hearing...to be afraid... to just go into my shell.... to sit still quietly and not to come out, so still not become worse...a sudden turn for the worse and I'll hurt himself??? and the prizes received by the one who is persistent and acts

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:29

Convinced, Running! Just wondering: how a daughter's dad abandoned the work. Or country very far away?

Went to collect money for MM (or wages can wait). However, my question to the veterans of the forum and personally to Andrey Patrushev (as a developer) on the effectiveness of the Conductor (for my situation) remains open.
PS And family to my experiences wary. They are unlikely to be "of sound mind" decided to use MM. So my relationship (future) with the machine will be intimate. Tete-a-tete, so to speak. Farm will not work.

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:33

Идущая вперед wrote:Can you be afraid... to just go into my shell.... to sit still quietly and not to come out, so still not become worse...a sudden turn for the worse and I'll hurt himself???

It is, of course...Why not. You can also try grenades from the box to do - maybe you are lucky and will be a great thing.... and chicken won't turn:)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:57

Yes, I do the ancestors of friends and acquaintances - when I said mind buy a car - zadolbali
Why are you doing this-you're brain will hurt!
You toooooo - I want to become smarter than everyone else and stand out?
Why do you have to go into your brain-nobody reaches there it is very dangerous?
at work:
I'm a sick old man and you're making a mistake buying this car and who knows where it all will lead
Better go to Church and forget your stupid ideas
Why do you need this crap - and so you harashi
And NOT ONE PERSON SAID Yes... you did what I did... go and work on yourself.... just don't try won't know what TSE tak
going forward

Берендей · Post by **Берендей** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 13:04

I bow to you Coming!
Thanks again for the support.
True, true...

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:16

Берендей wrote:Convinced Running! Just wondering: how a daughter's dad abandoned the work. Or country very far away?
Went to collect money for MM (or wages can wait). However, my question to the veterans of the forum and personally to Andrey Patrushev (as a developer) on the effectiveness of the Conductor (for my situation) remains open.
PS And family to my experiences wary. They are unlikely to be "of sound mind" decided to use MM. So my relationship (future) with the machine will be intimate. Tete-a-tete, so to speak. Farm will not work.

The effect of the Conductor is increased by binaural beats. But a few listens (and sinking) this CD to any "balalaika", which is next to the bed (i.e. no binaurally there and vpomine is not present). The problem with the achievement of different trance States can be rooted in the needs of micromanaging every little thing in life (sometimes it's just not the ability to selectively allocate information - often found in preterm 6-month-old babies and, in consequence, - in adults). The same reason (inability to selectively highlight the desired information and suppress everything else), may have been the cause of the hearing loss.
Thus, with the Explorer you just have to work, gradually allowing yourself to sink deeper and deeper. As for disks, it is possible that in some way will work Massage of the Brain, as there is a very strong high that go to the brain are already mostly through bone conduction. But, maybe, and there will be no effect.
Here is such a scenario.

Good luck!

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