SELF-HYPNOSIS AND PROPER GOAL SETTING

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Oct 27, 2013 0:50

крошкин wrote:so what's the difference between setting goals in the alpha , such as music, self hypnosis and theta , for example a hypnotic trance?
Only in Your skills (or rather, their absence for being in theta:?)
крошкин wrote:this only applies to Your disks, or with alpha waves
This applies to work in a trance state, not discs.
крошкин wrote:in the same method, the Silva goal, you need to put/to speak of being in alpha state.
It is, IMHO, wishful thinking. :?

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by крошкин » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:39

I do not understand - the Silva method self-deception or am I not understand correctly?

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by крошкин » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:45

And , Andrew, tell me please - there's a huge problem, I can relax the whole body to a state of complete numbness , with eyes the problem turns out to relax your eyes they strive themselves to open the twitch and so forth in General, what advise?

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by Тимур И » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:04

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Timur And
Enough to listen to 21 times. If you do not work during this time, you have to either make something else or to change a set of affirmations.
Wow this is so? That's your subconscious still picks words that he should come so to speak "in the spirit"?? That maybe he is not clear in affirmations - "Upon awakening My body one minute remains stationary"? With which it disagrees?

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Oct 27, 2013 13:19

крошкин wrote:do Not understand - the Silva method self-deception or am I not understand correctly?
The method was developed long ago and in a poor country where there was no mass access to technology of recording.
In each population there are very talented to TRANS people and especially operatie. By the way, just such people and a lot of problems accumulated. So, this method is designed for such people. The first or are already in a trance, or very easy to get, second bring myself affirmations in the end stupor (also a kind of trance), and they, too, something starts to happen... the Rest, try a couple of times this thing lays out, but tell everyone how great they all work... :)
But in order to work for all the rest you need deep muscular relaxation and attention on the text but not the words, and para-verbal aspects (intonation, rhythm, timbre, expression, etc.). Once you focus on the words and their meaning (I'm not talking about the fact that they themselves speak), so once you begin to dominate beta waves in and out of the trance you fall out.

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Oct 27, 2013 13:21

крошкин wrote:And yet , Andrew, tell me please - there's a huge problem, I can relax the whole body to a state of complete numbness , with eyes the problem turns out to relax your eyes they strive themselves to open the twitch and so forth in General, what advise?
There is a simple trick: very slowly move the eyes from side to side a bit over the top (but no voltage).

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Oct 27, 2013 13:25

Тимур И wrote:It is our subconscious mind still picks words that he should come so to speak "in the spirit"??
Of course.
Тимур И wrote:That maybe he is not clear in affirmations - "Upon awakening My body one minute remains stationary"? With which it disagrees?
Yes, how do I know??? For example, as a child You woke up one day and the drowsiness has not yet passed, and You couldn't move, despite all Your effort. This usually ends strong fear (if not terror). Since Your unconscious mind to grow old more to prevent such...

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by крошкин » Sun Oct 27, 2013 14:07

I don't think that in America, the 1960s, when the foundations were laid method, there was no mass access to technology of recording.

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by крошкин » Sun Oct 27, 2013 14:46

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
крошкин wrote:And yet , Andrew, tell me please - there's a huge problem, I can relax the whole body to a state of complete numbness , with eyes the problem turns out to relax your eyes they strive themselves to open the twitch and so forth in General, what advise?
There is a simple trick: very slowly move the eyes from side to side a bit over the top (but no voltage).
This TRANS should be done?

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by Тимур И » Sun Oct 27, 2013 23:25

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Yes, how do I know??? For example, as a child You woke up one day and the drowsiness has not yet passed, and You couldn't move, despite all Your effort. This usually ends strong fear (if not terror). Since Your unconscious mind to grow old more to prevent such...
Andrew, You made me think...But what about what affirmatsii to apply and where to start, how to dig to the truth?? What else could I suggest setting a sample? I would be very grateful for help!

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Oct 27, 2013 23:39

Timur And
What do you think? - Need to shake! :) You have already found, working in a bakery. Will not work - will find something else...

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by Тимур И » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:59

But I still have these words to rearrange my subconscious was more gullible than :) :( ?? May: it must again be scare, so that would be it understood, to Wake up without movement is a necessary measure :) Or this setup:- "Upon awakening I'm happy to Wake up without movement of the body exactly one minuteu". Some confusion but can't work? :)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Oct 28, 2013 13:21

Timur And
And try. Well it's not fatal. :)
You can, for example, run something like: "I securely go away all obstacles to ....". You can start with the pendulum to work to find the cause and then work more purposefully...
It is important to remember that any of Your efforts to self-programming needs to take into account the need to maintain internal environmental integrity and security.

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Post by Тимур И » Mon Oct 28, 2013 14:15

Андрей Патрушев wrote:you Can start with the pendulum to work to find the cause and then work more purposefully...
You do not complicate,explain please,what is the pendulum? And how to work with it?

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Oct 28, 2013 15:26

Timur And
A pendulum is any heavy (not really) thing on the thread. :) Working with the pendulum devoted dozens of books and lots of network resources... 8)

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by крошкин » Mon Oct 28, 2013 15:37

Андрей Патрушев wrote:kroshkin wrote(a):
so what is the difference between setting goals in the alpha , such as music, self hypnosis and theta , for example a hypnotic trance?

Only in Your skills (or rather, their absence for being in theta:?)
And as they (skills in theta) to acquire and generally understood there or not? The issue is serious

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Oct 28, 2013 16:28

крошкин wrote:And as they (skills in theta) to acquire and generally understood there or not? The issue is serious
All is achieved exercises. :)

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Post by крошкин » Mon Oct 28, 2013 17:56

Andrew, I seriously understand how to have the skill or not? How can understand to engage in the theta or even earlier?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Oct 28, 2013 22:02

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And I'm serious. :?
Well-established "alpha state" is characterized by a stable good mood (cheerfulness), fast return to a good mood after suffering trouble, good performance, fast recovery after heavy physical and mental stress, good sleep, no desire for Smoking and alkagol.
But the alpha state is still, as they say, half of the case. :? For the transition to work with the theta trance, it is additionally necessary to develop "beta-condition" - a good memory and voluntary attention. Only in this case, you can count on the normal operation in the theta trance, without all the nasty side effects such as nightmares and increased anxiety.

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Post by Тимур И » Mon Oct 28, 2013 22:24

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Timur And
A pendulum is any heavy (not really) thing on the thread. :) Working with the pendulum devoted dozens of books and lots of network resources... 8)
Did You mean to hypnotize yourself? But I have no such friends who could provide such a service..

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Post by bofara » Mon Oct 28, 2013 22:34

Андрей Патрушев wrote:focus
Excuse me what is 'focus'? Thank you.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Oct 28, 2013 22:34

Timur And
I mean only what we have... :)
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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Oct 28, 2013 22:38

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If You are watching an interesting movie, then You have at this time prevails involuntary attention, if you do some uninteresting mental work, and still manage to maintain mindfulness and concentration, then You are at this time dominated by voluntary attention.

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by крошкин » Tue Oct 29, 2013 0:13

Андрей Патрушев wrote:kroshkin
And I'm serious. :?
Well-established "alpha state" is characterized by a stable good mood (cheerfulness), fast return to a good mood after suffering trouble, good performance, fast recovery after heavy physical and mental stress, good sleep, no desire for Smoking and alkagol.
But the alpha state is still, as they say, half of the case. :? For the transition to work with the theta trance, it is additionally necessary to develop "beta-condition" - a good memory and voluntary attention. Only in this case, you can count on the normal operation in the theta trance, without all the nasty side effects such as nightmares and increased anxiety.
But in General, what "stronger" in terms of "promotion" to the order of alpha or theta? And work with the Committee without sufficient developments of alpha's face only those You have side effects? Or she (theta) without alpha may not "earn"? I also wanted to ask although it does not relate to Your disks - alpha after all, a fairly wide frequency range what is the optimal frequency for self-hypnosis and goal setting? And I've listened to the frequency of Epsilon (from Jeffrey Thompson) a few times at night and was very interesting dreams after that with all your deceased relatives and friends they met and it happened every time after listening to the program although I did regularly. But what is most interesting, these dreams I remember very well - you can say to details, which after alpha with such success occurred. And You wrote that the frequencies below the Delta is almost impossible to artificially start in the brain or I do not understand?

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Re: self HYPNOSIS AND PROPER goal SETTING

Post by Тимур И » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:18

Андрей Патрушев wrote:you Can for example run something like: "I securely go away all obstacles to ....". You can start with the pendulum to work to find the cause and then work more purposefully...
Yeah, I realized getting through the pendulum :) Andrew, but how correctly to ask a question to understand the reason(s), what issues should we start?
I correctly understood you, the "I securely go away all obstacles to ....my goal to Wake up... And neither can true test to find the words..help please Andrew!

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