First experience - 2

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 13:44

Interesting!Let;)Just know,I somehow have a feeling (maybe superstition),not hunting to "test" their abilities for fun or mistrust..somehow the feeling that it (intuition) will be offended and leave

...I agree,it sounds crazy,but all the same...But,Marina,Nick, for your sake, and so to say statistics is ready to try...

Марина Ник · Post by **Марина Ник** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 16:28

Dimas wrote:Interesting!Let;)Just know,I somehow have a feeling (maybe superstition),not hunting to "test" their abilities for fun or mistrust..somehow the feeling that it (intuition) will be offended and leave ...I agree,it sounds crazy,but all the same...But,Marina,Nick, for your sake, and so to say statistics is ready to try...

No, demAs, I'm not in any way impose. Do not want - Your business. Just wondering, so I wrote. And someone else might enjoy. Or someone to share their feelings, maybe someone else intuition has improved from the use of machines.
Well, so, as with the alpha state. Has already been written here that this (or theta, don't remember) state that one can achieve through years of meditation. And with the help of mind-machines in this state can be achieved supposedly for 2 weeks. So I thought, too, because intuition can be trained. Maybe listening sessions and drive it (intuition) is also itself improving?
Maybe someone has on this occasion thought? And it would be interesting on the site to meet users M. machines (its) and to compare their performance with other players, then it would be clearly seen, it improve the m-machine intuition or not.
And address of such www.soulris.ru

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:00

Yesterday just didn't have time to finish...you know,Marina (can I just call You Marina?)...To be honest I'm talking about intuition here's what I think...Intuition suggests that the entire world is already done and fixed,to change IT already in any way possible..So we can predict or anticipate an event...I do not really agree with this point of view...I think we are making (forming) their own reality by our thoughts...I was experimential with it...and came to the conclusion that,as I say, SO be it..If I say to myself, "I get the 5th ticket" and I don't doubt that I get,if I say that at the end of the month I will have so much money (no idea how they can take)-they miraculously appear (and I do absolutely not foresee and does not anticipate-he invent on the move-full fantasy and the game)...And fitness may be so:the more You engage with there are all sorts of devices or programs (develop the brain and consciousness,so to speak),then the more You have confidence that our plans will happen intended happens as a result is reinforcement positive experience-because even the big uverennostiu positive option..and the chain..
So it comes down to a question of confidence (faith if you want)...if I Believe I can tell the map or indicate the correct figure..?if Yes,then it turns..(to the question about games on intuition).....Here are my thoughts..

Марина Ник · Post by **Марина Ник** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:18

I don't know... If You're talking about transerfing reality, it can be... I think.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:22

Марина Ник wrote:I don't know... If You're talking about transerfing reality, it can be... I think.

EVERYTHING can be...

Any claims-illusion

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:30

Yes, it's not even in the transferring of this...Because the mind determines matter?!or not??

Still the same as matter determines consciousness...right???

ШДен · Post by **ШДен** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:52

DemAs absolutely agree with you, if something very much want, and believe that it will come to pass, then certainly will succeed (I think this is becoming a hackneyed phrase and a hearing when its already stop paying attention, because I do not quite understand how it works, but to understand and not necessarily, you just WANT to BELIEVE)
All of these I had tickets to the exam (a few times pulled the 13th ticket in the end, even started to teach only the 13th)

And even with the money (it has to do with the purchase of the apartment)
However now we have stayed in.

Maybe stop believing

: Or maybe just tired of the repair

It is necessary to dig a little myself

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 13:08

I was under the impression that there is a limit of wish fulfillment(don't know how else to put it;))...first comes the rise and then inevitable decline...That is, you need some time to compress the spring (energy can),for that would she then straightened...
And again, all of the sinusoidal waves...

ШДен · Post by **ШДен** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 13:18

I think that most likely the way it is

And I would like (as usual) to direct and up PASTAYANNA
Or maybe just when everything turns out just the way you want you relax and do (or not do) something not :idea:

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 13:28

Yes,one more thing...if anyone is interested...
Implementation of any idea (no matter negative or positive) is better (faster and better) somehow in the resting state, That is, in the absence of desires (strong,that is, of desire),lack of worry,nervousness...I would even say in a state of apathy,lack of affection and emotional cleaving to the "akasanoma"

the object or situation..As it's been said here on the forum "...the emptiness pouring out of his ears..."Again, all this experience...as soon As you start anything to want,nothing happens...the Machine and "MM" I use to be in this state,the state of the pause between thoughts..maybe you Sden really tired and your head's all clogged others,repair in case of something serious

...That's still a BELIEF I most strongly manifested in THIS state!!!!And this is nothing but meditation,I think it does this condition to hold throughout the day,not to allow itself to get involved in the commotion and bustle...don't sweat the small stuff.To try to take everything not the head,but...the whole body (I'm not sure that I understand,but it's a pretty cool feeling)...how would You release control of himself,cut off his head and ...everything...is Better to start experimenting in the woods or Park where not a lot of people...

Лилка · Post by **Лилка** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 14:57

Dimas wrote:Yes,one more thing...if anyone is interested...
Implementation of any idea (no matter negative or positive) is better (faster and better) somehow in the resting state, That is, in the absence of desires (strong,that is, of desire),lack of worry,nervousness...I would even say in a state of apathy,lack of affection and emotional cleaving to the "akasanoma" object or situation..As it's been said here on the forum "...the emptiness pouring out of his ears..."Again, all this experience...as soon As you start something to want nothing happens...the Machine and "MM" I use to be in this state,the state of the pause between thoughts..maybe you Sden really tired and your head's all clogged others,repair in case of something serious ...That's still a BELIEF I most strongly manifested in THIS state!!!!And this is nothing but meditation,I think it does this condition to hold throughout the day,not to allow itself to get involved in the commotion and bustle...don't sweat the small stuff.To try to take everything not the head,but...the whole body (I'm not sure that I understand,but it's a pretty cool feeling)...how would You release control of himself,cut off his head and ...everything...is Better to start experimenting in the woods or Park where not a lot of people...

200%... same garbage... :!: could not understand what is wrong with me... because it is VERY unusual...

Марина Ник · Post by **Марина Ник** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 15:19

Dimas wrote:...and "MM" I use to be in this state,the state of the pause between thoughts..maybe you Sden really tired and your head's all clogged others,repair in case of something serious ...That's still a BELIEF I most strongly manifested in THIS state!!!!

And what kind of session help You to be in this state? And discs only MM? My first time it came when I listened to Endorphins, and combining it (the drive) with an energy session. But it's not exactly, maybe a coincidence. And actually , maybe it was the Guide that have been heard on the same day.

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 22:31

Псих wrote:Put i2 from 15 seconds change the rhythm and square light pulses and the music stronger (psicodelico). Just need the state to control their as soon as that takes - suggest to remove the glasses and headphones, for the first time at least.

Sorry for the stupid question, but how is it possible to put ?
I have innerpulse.

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 23:26

Dimas wrote:I was under the impression that there is a limit of wish fulfillment(don't know how else to put it;))...first comes the rise and then inevitable decline...That is, you need some time to compress the spring (energy can),for that would she then straightened...
And again, all of the sinusoidal waves...

Remember transerfing - do you think it will

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:24

left proslushat "Provodnik" 2 more times and be = 21 ..
Today in the morning I decided to listen to "massage brain".. surprised..
it turns out it's me from Explorer the "sausage".. and "massage brain" is nice.. passed with warmth and tingling in the body.
I can not understand. from what I started at the last sessions of the conductor to turn inside out.. left .. 2 times.. and .. in General .. not clear on the logic of the body was "kuritsa" and the recent sessions have to be in a "comfortable" norm.. and he started to get up..
can last more than 21 times ? because judging by the "vyvorachivaya" (pain in joints, muscles(so much that sometimes I start to moan) .. only during the session "Explorer").. the process of restructuring has only gone..

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 17:46

Евгений Кош wrote:left proslushat "Provodnik" 2 more times and be = 21 ..
Today in the morning I decided to listen to "massage brain".. surprised..
it turns out it's me from Explorer the "sausage".. and "massage brain" is nice.. passed with warmth and tingling in the body.
I can not understand. from what I started at the last sessions of the conductor to turn inside out.. left .. 2 times.. and .. in General .. not clear on the logic of the body was "kuritsa" and the recent sessions have to be in a "comfortable" norm.. and he started to get up..
can last more than 21 times ? because judging by the "vyvorachivaya" (pain in joints, muscles(so much that sometimes I start to moan) .. only during the session "Explorer").. the process of restructuring has only gone..

This process is very individual, but it's okay if You interrupted for two weeks, because now the inner work is not only in the moment of listening.
It just might be a signal that the process has started, it is better not to interfere. Agree with his subconscious before the next audition (just turn inwards as a close person): "If you listen to enough, let these feelings intensify (then stop at listening), if I have to listen to it again, then let these feelings only during this particular listening (maybe they are somehow necessary) will not appear.

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 20:44

Андрей Патрушев wrote: Agree with his subconscious before the next audition (just turn inwards as a close person): "If you listen to enough, let these feelings intensify (then stop at listening), if I have to listen to it again, then let these feelings only during this particular listening (maybe they are somehow necessary) will not appear.

Andrew, thank you!
Indeed, it is logical.

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 22:06

Agreed.. just replaced the last word "will not" to "will not".. as long as I remember the subconscious does not perceive "no".. and the mind sometimes it does not take tone

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The result - the beginning and more than half of the session - well, just perfect..
once started the saying "you are a smart owner.. you can do everything that you can my friends.." that these words sharp, throbbing pain in the joint.. waited for 2 minutes (you never know.. there are accident.. it started to ache in one joint and not several like the last 3-4 times.. ( by the way he started this "break-up")) feel that it is enough.. throbbing pain.. the session was interrupted.. will rest for 3 weeks

massage of the brain is now in the queue

P. S. Andrew, tell me.. and Your evening session to listen to before bed?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:56

Евгений Кош wrote: P. S. Andrew, tell me.. and Your evening session to listen to before bed?

Yes, you can. Dreams will be brighter and more interesting....

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:12

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
Евгений Кош wrote: P. S. Andrew, tell me.. and Your evening session to listen to before bed?
Yes, you can. Dreams will be brighter and more interesting....

about the brightness of the dreams I noticed

I tried once the day before yesterday..
usually go to bed after midnight ( there's more to life.. from communicating with people to reading books.. here and go to bed after 12 at night).. and then read up to 3 nights... well I'll try.. tried.. fell asleep quickly.. the dream was clear ( remember to details).. and fighting

in the dream, always helped in all situations some people. (without a name, and didn't speak to me, popped up when needed.. disappeared when I did not need help).. in General from the sleep remained good, although the dream were Patriotic fighters ( of course I didn't kill anyone, and successfully evaded pursuit, and in the end something happened with those who tried to catch up with me.. in General, all ended very well for me).
Anyway.. about dreams can be a long story.. for me this is a favorite.. already 14 years trying to "spread out" dreams. Often find answers.. but sometimes you have to work hard with Associaciya

Сперанца · Post by **Сперанца** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 21:09

So I do not dream. Will have to try.

Don't know in what topic to ask a question. Ask here. If already discussed, poke my nose.

All sessions r different duration.
5 minutes was not enough for me, but 40 minutes is still a lot.
So I'm all sessions run on average 15-20 minutes 2 times a day that just 30-40 minutes a day.
From here questions:
1. as I understand it in the course of the session change frequency and last for a certain time. If the session is lengthened, it just will go the allotted time, then starts over again, or within the session the sound of each period to lengthen. Or if to cut the session, she just otmechaetsya after this time or the sound of the periods will be shortened.
Under periods I understand time in the same frequency.
2. such shortening or lengthening uhudshaet the result? It is necessary to put the session at the suggested time? Or is it irrelevant?

Thank you.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 22:51

Сперанца wrote:so I do not dream. Will have to try.

Don't know in what topic to ask a question. Ask here. If already discussed, poke my nose.

All sessions r different duration.
5 minutes was not enough for me, but 40 minutes is still a lot.
So I'm all sessions run on average 15-20 minutes 2 times a day that just 30-40 minutes a day.
From here questions:
1. as I understand it in the course of the session change frequency and last for a certain time. If the session is lengthened, it just will go the allotted time, then starts over again, or within the session the sound of each period to lengthen. Or if to cut the session, she just otmechaetsya after this time or the sound of the periods will be shortened.
Under periods I understand time in the same frequency.
2. such shortening or lengthening uhudshaet the result? It is necessary to put the session at the suggested time? Or is it irrelevant?

Thank you.

Session change through the reduction/elongation of the segments. In General, if no special programming (all my sessions), the time change does not affect the effectiveness of the session.

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 0:42

Well, well, who here complained that the B03 does not stick ???

share the experience :
At first, I was always alpha meditation Patrushev has Zababurin.
Then I decided to try the body asleep mind awake.
The beginning really lacked the twinkle in his eyes, I did a couple of times worked with CDs Monroe. Used without glasses, they just distract.
Lie I "not inserted" body damn does not understand that a piece of paper he is supposed to sleep.
Well, I think - it's time to experiment :
I remembered meditation, I do not remember as is called - said the rainbow, which is very effective.
This is when I concentrate one by one on each joint of his body, and so the circle run.
Here fortunately glasses flicker stopped.
It was a SIGN !
Well, I come to concentrate on the hands, then on his feet, and his head decided to put a hand.
In General lie, but is not.
Then I simplified the exercise.
First, focus on the sensations left arm, then left leg, then right leg, right hand and head (remember spin right

)) ) and sentenced at the same time, the hand's asleep, foot's asleep, his head asleep, mind awake.
Oh ! and then as it should be.
A sensation of physical lightness in the body, as if in the water, I lie.
In General a great start.
Oh, and also - very important, Dimas told me not to focus on any feelings if they arise. So I'm not focused, on the contrary, scattered attention, and as I tried to sleep - well, sort of "we not local". And that feeling only intensified.
A little more and you'll see , I almost went through temyachko.
And of course it happened.
Then looks like I got too carried away and smoothly all on the decline went.
So I think you can try.
People, write your experience !

Сперанца · Post by **Сперанца** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:38

Andrei Patrushev
Thank you.
Alexandr
As You plunged however. Also because I want to, but I do not have enough knowledge. Are You behind times in a row from 2 sessions?? I yet do not risk.

The morning included a session i02.
It's something:)
Or the wonderful session, whether the process has begun.
Light me though also slightly annoying. In the beginning of the session I put on at least, but in the course of the session the intensity of the light varies from almost nothing to very bright flashes. But I'm too lazy to move.
So the first tingling in hands and feet - hands and feet. How many needles. And then the same waves, but in the chest. Well, very nice

The mood of the morning very well, elated.
Good luck to everyone

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 20:30

Сперанца wrote:Andrei Patrushev
Thank you.
Alexandr
As You plunged however. Also because I want to, but I do not have enough knowledge. Are You behind times in a row from 2 sessions?? I yet do not risk.

The morning included a session i02.
It's something:)
Or the wonderful session, whether the process has begun.
Light me though also slightly annoying. In the beginning of the session I put on at least, but in the course of the session the intensity of the light varies from almost nothing to very bright flashes. But I'm too lazy to move.
So the first tingling in hands and feet - hands and feet. How many needles. And then the same waves, but in the chest. Well, very nice

The mood of the morning very well, elated.
Good luck to everyone

I have a lot of free time, I can afford to use session often.
Also noted that at maximum brightness and feeling brighter.
Today repeated his yesterday's experience - no result.
Then something else is affected.
We need to understand.