Bold
And hypnosis tried?
Why things don't work out the way you plan or want to!
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When working with hypnosis, is one feature. The hypnotist may have their own cockroaches in my head. Suppose he today not in a very good mood. Thus, it is possible (possible?) anything to snatch what. However, something similar is now used by me. Thank you! Otherwise would be very bleak.Практик wrote:Bold
And hypnosis tried?
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Well, if your poor subconscious mind (watch your step here, if we will lean into "my fault" or "My subconscious is to blame" it will only worsen your situation) doesn't want wealth, health, money - raises the legitimate question what it wants? I feel that you are torn, you have more than enough information, and you can't understand. What happened? Why are you so stubbornly insist that despite the fact that it is impossible for life to become rich, happy and healthy - you stubbornly are trying to become. It you really want?
Where will crawl, if not a secret?Смелый wrote:As always, start wandering alone, because I have an idea where to crawl.
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The subconscious can be to blame. It's like a computer collects and stores information, processes it and, if necessary, making decisions on what specific case, analyses all information and then outputs the result:рыжая wrote:Well, if your poor subconscious mind (watch your step here, if we will lean into "my fault" or "My subconscious is to blame" it will only worsen your situation) doesn't want wealth, health, money - raises the legitimate question what it wants? I feel that you are torn, you have more than enough information, and you can't understand. What happened? Why are you so stubbornly insist that despite the fact that it is impossible for life to become rich, happy and healthy - you stubbornly are trying to become. It you really want?
Where will crawl, if not a secret?Смелый wrote:As always, start wandering alone, because I have an idea where to crawl.
- "On the development of this situation, I select the energy and use the Plan to help." Perhaps in the form of finding the right information or connections.
Or
- "The development of this situation, I can not give energy and will block all around." Need information either not come, or comes distorted.
The subconscious mind does not want anything. She wants people. And it works. And either assists, or blocks. And karma with the accounts does not reset.
The words "rich" and "healthy" (happy wasn't there) was used to determine the direction of the subconscious. As the phrase "I don't want to be rich" and "don't want to be healthy", which was received unequivocal answers "Yes!"
I wrote somewhere that I want to be? What I want to be and what to make - I'm here on this never and not say a word. Everything I do and part of what I share has meaning not even always clear to me in the process. But later, Yes.
Stubbornness I have not only in the doing - knowing what you are doing. And..... silent.
About the secret. But in General it is not a secret. Besides what's already crawling. Apply not want. On the one hand will not understand. With other assessments and advice will pojavljat. And evaluation and advice is meaningless.<
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If you are not interested in financial situation, why zhy you've tested yourself on this subject?
Bold, if you find the answer to your question: Why it doesn't work out the way you planned or want, let me know. Because it will be a big breakthrough. I'm not bullied or anything like that, I'm serious.
Bold, if you find the answer to your question: Why it doesn't work out the way you planned or want, let me know. Because it will be a big breakthrough. I'm not bullied or anything like that, I'm serious.
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I am interested in the improvement of material conditions. But it is one of the vital parameters. One of the main, so to speak. I would like to make your life on the Pyramid of needs according to Maslow http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CF%E8%F0% ... 1%EB%EE%F3рыжая wrote:If you are not interested in financial situation, why zhy you've tested yourself on this subject?
Bold, if you find the answer to your question: Why it doesn't work out the way you planned or want, let me know. Because it will be a big breakthrough. I'm not bullied or anything like that, I'm serious.
Sorry too late I come to understand these things, felt the time pressure of time and everything goes awry. Not from bottom to top, and like a bulldozer to the side and all positions at once. Not right, but nothing else.
Of course, if I something happens, I'll post HOW I did IT. But we all have our own way. You have a great intuition and You like yourself a lot to reduce. Moreover, age is not too tight. You can safely take for a basis above the pyramid and move.
One of the first I read books on spirituality, "Influence and communication", Sergei Jagdish.
He's the one who wrote the following line is a warning: "Before you do spiritual development, take your position in society. Because of the person engaged in spiritual practices the money goes".
Andrew Levshinova have the book "Healing meditation" or "domestic drug". Truer words were never spoken. Sipping state achieved in deep meditation, then not everyone wants to be a fighter. And without the status of a fighter, in business there is no sense to be. The photographs of our oligarchs nice and smiling people. Actually, it's iron robots with steel elbows and iron fists.<
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Very interesting.Смелый wrote: As always, start wandering alone, because I have an idea where to crawl.
If you want to, please share the experience. May be I will look out for direction.
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Hello! Allow me to share the picture of the world on this subject, which is close to me.
N. D. Walsh "Conversations with God".
"God: Thought, word and deed are the three levels of creation.
Now let's take <worldly success as our subject for consideration.
So, do you have any idea: <I want to be successful in this world>?
Walsh: Sometimes, Yes.
Do you from time to time the idea <I want to have more money>?
Yes.
In this case, you will not be able to be successful in this world and not be able to have more money.
And why the hell not?
But because the Universe will have no choice but to lay at your feet the literal manifestation of your thoughts about it.
Your idea is this: <I want to be successful>. You do realize that creativity is like a Genie in a bottle, she understands your words and thoughts as commands to action. You know?
Then, why can't I be more successful?
I said that your words are tantamount to the team. Your words were: <I want success>. And the universe says: <Great, though!>.
I'm still not sure I understand.
Think of it this way: the word <I> is the word, which is the key in the ignition and starts the engine of creation. The words <I> there > are extremely powerful. This installation approval for the universe. Team.
Now, that would not followed the word <I> (which appeals to the Great I am) tends to be manifested in physical reality.
Thus, <I> + <I want success> creates the manifested level are you wanting success. <I> + <I want money> should create you wanting money. Anything else can not be created because thoughts create. As well as actions. And if you act in a manner that suggests that you want to be successful, then your thoughts, words and actions are in full compliance and you can expect that you will get the feeling of the eternal volition.
You know?
Yes! Oh, My God, is this really works that way?
Well, of course! You're a very powerful Creator.
....
You like regret, sorrow, you love drama. And this continues until, until you eat it to satiety. Your evolution comes a point when you cease to love the drama, cease to love, never ending, the victim's story. And this happens just when you decide when you actively choose to change it. The difficulty, however, is that most do not know how to do it. Now you know. In order to change your reality you just need to stop thinking this way.
And in this particular case, instead of to think <I want to be successful>, - think: <I am successful>.
For me it's a lot like cheating. I'd be fooling myself if I said so. My mind cried to: <the Hell you're successful!>
Then think the idea that you can take. <I close>, or everything goes to the fact that I be successful>.
So, what lies behind all these practices of affirmatsii new Age.
Affirmatsii do not work if they are merely statements of how you would like them to be.
Affirmatsii only work when they are stating something that you already know certainly, there the reality.
The best so-called affermativa is the statement, expressing gratitude and appreciation: <Thank You, Lord for allowing me to be successful in life>. In this case, this idea, thought, spoken and translated into action, creates amazing results, and it is only when it comes from true knowledge; not from an attempt to create results, but recognizing that the results already produced.
...
The thought that leads to feeling and experience that leads to thoughts which leads to feeling and experience. This can have uninterrupted joy, when Sponsorship Idea joyful. It may, in reality gives rise to a continuous hell when Sponsorship Idea comes from the same place.
The secret is to change the Sponsorship Idea.
The first step is to reverse the paradigm of thought-word-deed. Do you remember the old saying, <Think before you do>?
Yes.
So, forget it. If you want to change the way of thinking, you need to act before you think.
Example: you're walking down the street and find an old woman begging.... Why didn't you took and did not give her the paper money! It was your first impulse, but your idea drove him away.
Next time make up your mind to act before starting to think. Let's money. Go for it! They have you and there will be more from where these came. This is the only thought which separates you from the poor woman. You clearly know that you will have more money from the same source, and she doesn't know that.
When you want to change the image of his thoughts, act in accordance with his new understanding of it, with a new idea. But you need to act quickly, or your brain will simply kill this idea before you know it... And if you do this often enough, your mind will soon take this idea. And it will be your new idea (about YOURSELF)"
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N. D. Walsh "Conversations with God".
"God: Thought, word and deed are the three levels of creation.
Now let's take <worldly success as our subject for consideration.
So, do you have any idea: <I want to be successful in this world>?
Walsh: Sometimes, Yes.
Do you from time to time the idea <I want to have more money>?
Yes.
In this case, you will not be able to be successful in this world and not be able to have more money.
And why the hell not?
But because the Universe will have no choice but to lay at your feet the literal manifestation of your thoughts about it.
Your idea is this: <I want to be successful>. You do realize that creativity is like a Genie in a bottle, she understands your words and thoughts as commands to action. You know?
Then, why can't I be more successful?
I said that your words are tantamount to the team. Your words were: <I want success>. And the universe says: <Great, though!>.
I'm still not sure I understand.
Think of it this way: the word <I> is the word, which is the key in the ignition and starts the engine of creation. The words <I> there > are extremely powerful. This installation approval for the universe. Team.
Now, that would not followed the word <I> (which appeals to the Great I am) tends to be manifested in physical reality.
Thus, <I> + <I want success> creates the manifested level are you wanting success. <I> + <I want money> should create you wanting money. Anything else can not be created because thoughts create. As well as actions. And if you act in a manner that suggests that you want to be successful, then your thoughts, words and actions are in full compliance and you can expect that you will get the feeling of the eternal volition.
You know?
Yes! Oh, My God, is this really works that way?
Well, of course! You're a very powerful Creator.
....
You like regret, sorrow, you love drama. And this continues until, until you eat it to satiety. Your evolution comes a point when you cease to love the drama, cease to love, never ending, the victim's story. And this happens just when you decide when you actively choose to change it. The difficulty, however, is that most do not know how to do it. Now you know. In order to change your reality you just need to stop thinking this way.
And in this particular case, instead of to think <I want to be successful>, - think: <I am successful>.
For me it's a lot like cheating. I'd be fooling myself if I said so. My mind cried to: <the Hell you're successful!>
Then think the idea that you can take. <I close>, or everything goes to the fact that I be successful>.
So, what lies behind all these practices of affirmatsii new Age.
Affirmatsii do not work if they are merely statements of how you would like them to be.
Affirmatsii only work when they are stating something that you already know certainly, there the reality.
The best so-called affermativa is the statement, expressing gratitude and appreciation: <Thank You, Lord for allowing me to be successful in life>. In this case, this idea, thought, spoken and translated into action, creates amazing results, and it is only when it comes from true knowledge; not from an attempt to create results, but recognizing that the results already produced.
...
The thought that leads to feeling and experience that leads to thoughts which leads to feeling and experience. This can have uninterrupted joy, when Sponsorship Idea joyful. It may, in reality gives rise to a continuous hell when Sponsorship Idea comes from the same place.
The secret is to change the Sponsorship Idea.
The first step is to reverse the paradigm of thought-word-deed. Do you remember the old saying, <Think before you do>?
Yes.
So, forget it. If you want to change the way of thinking, you need to act before you think.
Example: you're walking down the street and find an old woman begging.... Why didn't you took and did not give her the paper money! It was your first impulse, but your idea drove him away.
Next time make up your mind to act before starting to think. Let's money. Go for it! They have you and there will be more from where these came. This is the only thought which separates you from the poor woman. You clearly know that you will have more money from the same source, and she doesn't know that.
When you want to change the image of his thoughts, act in accordance with his new understanding of it, with a new idea. But you need to act quickly, or your brain will simply kill this idea before you know it... And if you do this often enough, your mind will soon take this idea. And it will be your new idea (about YOURSELF)"
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The phrase "I want to be rich" or healthy were used for testing.
In life I use the principles of:
What can I do?
Where are the opportunities?
Where I need people like them to find?
What techniques and methods are used in a conversation?
How to convince?
And so on.
Because I know what is "the Egregor of money" is the "will of the Egregore of money," and this is how we understand different egregors.
In life I use the principles of:
What can I do?
Where are the opportunities?
Where I need people like them to find?
What techniques and methods are used in a conversation?
How to convince?
And so on.
Because I know what is "the Egregor of money" is the "will of the Egregore of money," and this is how we understand different egregors.
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Sorry, can't resist. "Malvina", You look great! 
"The skill of interpersonal leadership is a Skill 4 - Think in the spirit of "I win and You win".
This particular attitude of heart and mind, focused on the constant search for mutual benefit in all human interactions with each other. Means that all the agreements and solutions are mutually beneficial, satisfy both sides, and committed to the adopted plan of action. This decision is not yours and not mine - is the best solution, the solution of higher order. Life is an arena for cooperation and not rivalry.
It is impossible to realize in his life the installation of winning, if we do not have clear understanding about what this money is and how it harmonizes with our deepest values.
And the cornerstone of this Foundation must be integrity. It may be different: the balance of personal power and empathy, the balance of confidence and respect for others, the balance of concern for people and concern for task "I'm okay - you're okay". While courage focuses on getting the Golden eggs, sensitivity cares about the long-term well-being of those who helps to get those eggs."
And when our Main (sponsorship, generating the derivative) thought a happy one:
"God (Living, Intelligent universe,...) loves me and helps in everything I really need!" and when I not only think, but to automatically act in the spirit of "You're fine – I'm fine", then all it IS! 
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In this respect, I like to follow the advice of Stephen Covey. (Here outlined viewtopic.php?p=61113#p61113)Смелый wrote:In my life I use principles:
What can I do?
Where are the opportunities?
Where I need people like them to find?
What techniques and methods are used in a conversation?
How to convince?
And so on.
"The skill of interpersonal leadership is a Skill 4 - Think in the spirit of "I win and You win".
This particular attitude of heart and mind, focused on the constant search for mutual benefit in all human interactions with each other. Means that all the agreements and solutions are mutually beneficial, satisfy both sides, and committed to the adopted plan of action. This decision is not yours and not mine - is the best solution, the solution of higher order. Life is an arena for cooperation and not rivalry.
It is impossible to realize in his life the installation of winning, if we do not have clear understanding about what this money is and how it harmonizes with our deepest values.
And the cornerstone of this Foundation must be integrity. It may be different: the balance of personal power and empathy, the balance of confidence and respect for others, the balance of concern for people and concern for task "I'm okay - you're okay". While courage focuses on getting the Golden eggs, sensitivity cares about the long-term well-being of those who helps to get those eggs."
And when our Main (sponsorship, generating the derivative) thought a happy one:
"God (Living, Intelligent universe,...) loves me and helps in everything I really need!" and when I not only think, but to automatically act in the spirit of "You're fine – I'm fine", then all it IS!
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It?Вадим Перелыгин wrote:Sorry, can't resist. "Malvina", You look great!In this respect, I like to follow the advice of Stephen Covey. (Here outlined viewtopic.php?p=61113#p61113)Смелый wrote:In my life I use principles:
What can I do?
Where are the opportunities?
Where I need people like them to find?
What techniques and methods are used in a conversation?
How to convince?
And so on.
"The skill of interpersonal leadership is a Skill 4 - Think in the spirit of "I win and You win".
This particular attitude of heart and mind, focused on the constant search for mutual benefit in all human interactions with each other. Means that all the agreements and solutions are mutually beneficial, satisfy both sides, and committed to the adopted plan of action. This decision is not yours and not mine - is the best solution, the solution of higher order. Life is an arena for cooperation and not rivalry.
It is impossible to realize in his life the installation of winning, if we do not have clear understanding about what this money is and how it harmonizes with our deepest values.
And the cornerstone of this Foundation must be integrity. It may be different: the balance of personal power and empathy, the balance of confidence and respect for others, the balance of concern for people and concern for task "I'm okay - you're okay". While courage focuses on getting the Golden eggs, sensitivity cares about the long-term well-being of those who helps to get those eggs."
And when our Main (sponsorship, generating the derivative) thought a happy one:
"God (Living, Intelligent universe,...) loves me and helps in everything I really need!" and when I not only think, but to automatically act in the spirit of "You're fine – I'm fine", then all it IS!
If it turns out that what is manifested or shown the results?<
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Bold
And do you have their esoteric and devices real that you will that helps?
In addition to the visualizations and meditations, of course.
PS.
I read that article, unfortunately I can't find it(somewhere at the quantum forum) so there is a kind of New age guru and esoteri after writing several books on the subject, such as razotkrovennichalsya in the conversation and give all your readers and follower advice: throw all spirituality out of my head and go to Business college.
This I mean that my decision to study English language gave me more benefits(in social terms) than all the combined practices
Don't know never heard of this...Thus, it is possible (possible?) anything to snatch what
And do you have their esoteric and devices real that you will that helps?
In addition to the visualizations and meditations, of course.
PS.
I read that article, unfortunately I can't find it(somewhere at the quantum forum) so there is a kind of New age guru and esoteri after writing several books on the subject, such as razotkrovennichalsya in the conversation and give all your readers and follower advice: throw all spirituality out of my head and go to Business college.
This I mean that my decision to study English language gave me more benefits(in social terms) than all the combined practices
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Work! I'm so relieved and just started grabbing on!Смелый wrote:Work?
If it turns out that what is manifested or shown the results?
Everything appears as soon as you stop waiting and constantly checking, thereby remaining in a state of lack of something and to postpone the time of appearance desired. Replacing competitiveness and "iron fists and elbows" for cooperation, one thing appears and people (which was not expected) offer themselves.
Selfless help (which is not remembered, if remembered, then you haven't helped, and sold and was honest to say about it, so you do not accuse a person of ingratitude) returns with great interest and usually when you it's vital!
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Bravo! Nothing more I can add!Вадим Перелыгин wrote:Work! I'm so relieved and just started grabbing on!Смелый wrote:Work?
If it turns out that what is manifested or shown the results?
Everything appears as soon as you stop waiting and constantly checking, thereby remaining in a state of lack of something and to postpone the time of appearance desired. Replacing competitiveness and "iron fists and elbows" for cooperation, one thing appears and people (which was not expected) offer themselves.
Selfless help (which is not remembered, if remembered, then you haven't helped, and sold and was honest to say about it, so you do not accuse a person of ingratitude) returns with great interest and usually when you it's vital!
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When man is born the first 5-7 days he sees everything upside down.Смелый wrote:I have drawn attention to the fact that when you mentally prepare for what the development of upcoming events, the result usually turns out the opposite.
Because the fetus was upside down.
With spiritual practices is about the same zamoroka.
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About spiritual healing.
Give an interesting view of the distribution of the site http://www.astra-systems.net/. Not in order of advertising. There is a very simple look askance at the placement of their articles without indicating the source.
Hello!
Today we talk about spiritual healing.
Attempts of spiritual healing, people are starting to do in cases when you feel severe internal pain, internal imperfection, dissatisfaction with the process of life.
The first attempt spiritual healing boils down to positive thinking.
Smile, think about what the world is beautiful - inspire teachers, and you will be spiritually healed.
-It is necessary to try, - a person thinks, and starts to melt everything around with or without cause.
First, really nice to try to see everything in rainbow colors.
But after a couple of weeks or a month and people just get tired of this mock joy. It ceases to bring him pleasure.
The man says, "I'm Tired such a joy. I'm sick of your teaching."
The apostate teacher explains the situation: "and do Not want to be happy -that's your problem".
What should I rejoice if I was to be glad? How much can the clouds and the sun to be happy? - you ask, but the answer is not find.
The stock of artificial optimism ended.
Then comes a slight pause, followed by a new attempt of spiritual healing.
Attempt the second.
A person goes to another place for spiritual healing and there explained to him that the path to healing lies through suffering.
Ie, suffering is normal, because they, supposedly, for your own good.
Suffering you more than enough, and it seems that this time, you are on the right path.
As a benefit you begin to perceive the suffering that has fallen to you.
Time goes by, and the amount of suffering is not decreasing.
Is testing - inspire you.
Oh, come to test me? - buck you. - I want a normal life with a laugh, drinking rum, rash acts and emotional outbursts.
-You are weak in spirit, I tell you.- Failed the test.
And here you are again alone with their problems.
Two passes to the spiritual healing did not bring any result.
You go for round three.
Appeal to the psychoanalysts, psychiatrists, psychics and other "engineers of human souls" so that they work with your energy and heal your soul.
If you got to a good specialist, in the course of communication with them, you feel that the changes really are. Some of the things you were just different look and has become more comfortable to live, left some of the fears that began to change relationships with others.
-Great, you say.
But, it takes a month or two, and you are again in a spiritual dead end. Heartache again evident.
-Undoubtedly a relief it was, "you say," but it was temporary.
You go again to the experts for a new portion of relief.
The third phase often lasts several years.
Gradually you realize that the specialist gives you relief but not complete healing.
And for this you are grateful.
But you want spiritual healing, so that once and for all.
Here you come to the conclusion that the work on healing will have to do yourself and not by professionals.
You start the process of self-discovery.
You firmly decide that nobody except you will understand your inner world and will not be able to fully heal.
We can safely say that this is a momentous step in your life because you decide to know own self
Earlier, in search of the sources of spiritual healing, you relied on External (teachers, specialists, etc).
This time, you began to look for assistance is not outside, but inside.
This do you have taken the first step to a complete spiritual healing.<
Give an interesting view of the distribution of the site http://www.astra-systems.net/. Not in order of advertising. There is a very simple look askance at the placement of their articles without indicating the source.
Hello!
Today we talk about spiritual healing.
Attempts of spiritual healing, people are starting to do in cases when you feel severe internal pain, internal imperfection, dissatisfaction with the process of life.
The first attempt spiritual healing boils down to positive thinking.
Smile, think about what the world is beautiful - inspire teachers, and you will be spiritually healed.
-It is necessary to try, - a person thinks, and starts to melt everything around with or without cause.
First, really nice to try to see everything in rainbow colors.
But after a couple of weeks or a month and people just get tired of this mock joy. It ceases to bring him pleasure.
The man says, "I'm Tired such a joy. I'm sick of your teaching."
The apostate teacher explains the situation: "and do Not want to be happy -that's your problem".
What should I rejoice if I was to be glad? How much can the clouds and the sun to be happy? - you ask, but the answer is not find.
The stock of artificial optimism ended.
Then comes a slight pause, followed by a new attempt of spiritual healing.
Attempt the second.
A person goes to another place for spiritual healing and there explained to him that the path to healing lies through suffering.
Ie, suffering is normal, because they, supposedly, for your own good.
Suffering you more than enough, and it seems that this time, you are on the right path.
As a benefit you begin to perceive the suffering that has fallen to you.
Time goes by, and the amount of suffering is not decreasing.
Is testing - inspire you.
Oh, come to test me? - buck you. - I want a normal life with a laugh, drinking rum, rash acts and emotional outbursts.
-You are weak in spirit, I tell you.- Failed the test.
And here you are again alone with their problems.
Two passes to the spiritual healing did not bring any result.
You go for round three.
Appeal to the psychoanalysts, psychiatrists, psychics and other "engineers of human souls" so that they work with your energy and heal your soul.
If you got to a good specialist, in the course of communication with them, you feel that the changes really are. Some of the things you were just different look and has become more comfortable to live, left some of the fears that began to change relationships with others.
-Great, you say.
But, it takes a month or two, and you are again in a spiritual dead end. Heartache again evident.
-Undoubtedly a relief it was, "you say," but it was temporary.
You go again to the experts for a new portion of relief.
The third phase often lasts several years.
Gradually you realize that the specialist gives you relief but not complete healing.
And for this you are grateful.
But you want spiritual healing, so that once and for all.
Here you come to the conclusion that the work on healing will have to do yourself and not by professionals.
You start the process of self-discovery.
You firmly decide that nobody except you will understand your inner world and will not be able to fully heal.
We can safely say that this is a momentous step in your life because you decide to know own self
Earlier, in search of the sources of spiritual healing, you relied on External (teachers, specialists, etc).
This time, you began to look for assistance is not outside, but inside.
This do you have taken the first step to a complete spiritual healing.<
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This article is a continuation of the previous one.
Maybe someone will be interested.
Hello!
In order to get spiritual healing, we need to realize what you ultimately seek.
And it's all very simple.
Foreign language you learn in order to use it to communicate freely.
Learn - to know.
Master the skills of the profession, so that in any case become a master.
Learn - to know and be able to.
And in that and in other case, the ultimate goal is to in some area to be confident and know.
Spiritual healing is exactly the same story. Do you do them in order to know and based on this knowledge to gain confidence.
All of our mental anguish, tantrums, scandals, depression have their root ignorance and the lack of knowledge creates uncertainty, which turns into pain.
Returning to the example with the ball, from the previous release, we don't know where exactly the puncture through which he constantly pulls a little nervous and looking for in the outside world the reasons why the ball goes down.
Looking to the outside world, we want to know, but knowledge does not come to us, because we are looking in the wrong place.
And here we are faced with the fact that not every spiritual practice can be helpful.
Many spiritual practices are intended to convince people that we must abandon the outside world, what happens there, including us or our loved ones.
In a similar way are formed sects where their members well only when they are together. Therefore, in some cases, people leave home and family only to feel that their External don't care that it ended on the doorstep of the sect.
But the sect have something to live for, and they are being kicked to the outside world, actually to ask passers-by for alms.
- Persuaded - tell you.- Now tell me what to do to Know?
-A good question.
To know self means that you need to know yourself.
So, nobody else I know is not physically able.
People can just speculate, but know what the other is hidden in your Inner world, in your soul, only you can.
Therefore, attempts at spiritual healing, drawing on external sources of information are doomed to failure.
The main thing you need to do on the way to knowledge of self, is to come to a standstill, despite the presence of many problems relating to you and linking you to the outside world.
Your task is to make everything around as is, without emotions, and evaluations.
Yes, "it" is, Yes "it" exists and was made possible, not without my participation. "It's" if it makes me uncomfortable and causes mental pain, caused by my ignorance.
The sea is just the sea, but the definition of "gentle" or "threatening", giving him our consciousness, our mind.
The sun is shining, the water is warm.
-What a beautiful sea,- I think the one swims away and drowns in this sea, which he considered affectionate.
With the same weather, the other person thinks that the water is dangerous for him and afraid for the neck to go into the water to enjoy the pleasant feelings of being in sea water.
Follow both as "know", one would be drowned, and the second would have enjoyed.
So, if you have one or more diseases, or just problems in life, you don't need to pretend that they simply do not. I must admit that they are, but that's no reason to panic.
Your problems and illnesses need to learn to Know, and then there can come both spiritual and physical healing.
But, to Know and to Recognize is not synonymous.
To Know need to Recognize.
But the Recognition of something does not automatically Knowledge the essence of the phenomenon.
If you have a bad family, it is necessary just to Accept and not to run to her parents and her friends, telling how you are all bad, hoping they'll tell you something that will let you Know.
And here we come to the technique of the observer, which many of you are in General known, but it is extremely difficult to apply in practice.
Imagine yourself a stranger, who is watching you is not difficult, and 15 minutes or even an hour, even with the tension, but it is possible to survive.
A longer time to be in the position of an outside observer does not work, because there is a voltage that causes fatigue.
But, a short time is not enough to thoroughly consider their actions and emotions with that came the Knowledge.
Ie, it is impossible to digest the contents of the book, looking in it for short periods of time. For deep development requires slow , thoughtful reading, with the possibility to re-read the places that are at once difficult to understand.
Surely you have happened.
When you read the book, I remember only the sequence of the presented events without underlying essence.
But here's a place you "hooked".
You return to the text and read it slower.
Something looms optional, but not yet clearly.
You again read this place, but very slowly and with stops to think about individual phrases or words.
You even put aside the book for some time to reflect on what they read, to grasp its hidden essence.
After some time is really a flash of inspiration.
You understand that a cursory reading brings you knowledge.
Unexpected knowledge came as it were, from nowhere in a very careful examination of some of the fragment.
That is the position of an outside observer, only in order to understand and correct their mistakes, and so be healed spiritually, you need an equally slow and laborious to observe what is happening in his own Inner world.
I want to draw your attention to the fact that despite the outward simplicity, the transition to spiritual healing is for the brain to "technical" difficulty.
Over the years the brain was learned in the waking state only look out at the outside world and therefore an attempt, even in imagination, closely observe your inner world is causing first fatigue, and then irritation.
But, without having to see their Inner world and to correct what is not right, can not be spiritual healing, for the Knowledge will not come.
So, the most important.
Knowledge and the subsequent spiritual healing based on self-Knowledge comes only in case of close observation of their inner world in a state of relaxation.
Meditation is good, but during meditation you are disconnected from the outside world, and disconnected, you can get the knowledge relative to past experience. You will learn the lessons of the past, but it does not warn against new mistakes you will make in the "here and now" (in everyday life), which can not be called meditative.
You will act in most cases just as one is not practicing meditation.
Later, during another meditation, you simply understand the mistakes committed a few days or a few hours ago.
Spiritual healing is meditation in everyday life, lies in the fact that you side closely watching what you are doing or going to do. Very carefully as you would consider yourself.
Such close scrutiny of their actions and thoughts leads to the fact that Knowledge comes as if by itself, God knows where.
But it's such a strong Knowledge that all the books on spiritual practices seem naive. You will laugh by official science, which feeds a huge staff of scientists, but these scientists together saw what I saw at the same time understand you.
I repeat, the human brain is more difficult to take the position of an observer during everyday activities in the outside world, in which we make mistakes and failures, then feeling of his imperfections.
This imperfection is expressed in the form of emotional pain.
What have you learned about what you need to take a bystander for yourself, doesn't mean you have the Knowledge.
You have just received information, but information is not Knowledge.
Real knowledge is INTERNAL FEELING.
Knowledge in the form of feelings - is a manifestation of matter in the fourth dimension, your ability to perceive on the level of feelings, what is hidden from consciousness.
To summarize.
So what is spiritual healing?
Spiritual healing is the Knowledge of the 4 dimensions, giving you the confidence and peace of mind on the grounds that you realize what was going on, because the knowledge of the 4 dimension is the form of existence of matter.<
Maybe someone will be interested.
Hello!
In order to get spiritual healing, we need to realize what you ultimately seek.
And it's all very simple.
Foreign language you learn in order to use it to communicate freely.
Learn - to know.
Master the skills of the profession, so that in any case become a master.
Learn - to know and be able to.
And in that and in other case, the ultimate goal is to in some area to be confident and know.
Spiritual healing is exactly the same story. Do you do them in order to know and based on this knowledge to gain confidence.
All of our mental anguish, tantrums, scandals, depression have their root ignorance and the lack of knowledge creates uncertainty, which turns into pain.
Returning to the example with the ball, from the previous release, we don't know where exactly the puncture through which he constantly pulls a little nervous and looking for in the outside world the reasons why the ball goes down.
Looking to the outside world, we want to know, but knowledge does not come to us, because we are looking in the wrong place.
And here we are faced with the fact that not every spiritual practice can be helpful.
Many spiritual practices are intended to convince people that we must abandon the outside world, what happens there, including us or our loved ones.
In a similar way are formed sects where their members well only when they are together. Therefore, in some cases, people leave home and family only to feel that their External don't care that it ended on the doorstep of the sect.
But the sect have something to live for, and they are being kicked to the outside world, actually to ask passers-by for alms.
- Persuaded - tell you.- Now tell me what to do to Know?
-A good question.
To know self means that you need to know yourself.
So, nobody else I know is not physically able.
People can just speculate, but know what the other is hidden in your Inner world, in your soul, only you can.
Therefore, attempts at spiritual healing, drawing on external sources of information are doomed to failure.
The main thing you need to do on the way to knowledge of self, is to come to a standstill, despite the presence of many problems relating to you and linking you to the outside world.
Your task is to make everything around as is, without emotions, and evaluations.
Yes, "it" is, Yes "it" exists and was made possible, not without my participation. "It's" if it makes me uncomfortable and causes mental pain, caused by my ignorance.
The sea is just the sea, but the definition of "gentle" or "threatening", giving him our consciousness, our mind.
The sun is shining, the water is warm.
-What a beautiful sea,- I think the one swims away and drowns in this sea, which he considered affectionate.
With the same weather, the other person thinks that the water is dangerous for him and afraid for the neck to go into the water to enjoy the pleasant feelings of being in sea water.
Follow both as "know", one would be drowned, and the second would have enjoyed.
So, if you have one or more diseases, or just problems in life, you don't need to pretend that they simply do not. I must admit that they are, but that's no reason to panic.
Your problems and illnesses need to learn to Know, and then there can come both spiritual and physical healing.
But, to Know and to Recognize is not synonymous.
To Know need to Recognize.
But the Recognition of something does not automatically Knowledge the essence of the phenomenon.
If you have a bad family, it is necessary just to Accept and not to run to her parents and her friends, telling how you are all bad, hoping they'll tell you something that will let you Know.
And here we come to the technique of the observer, which many of you are in General known, but it is extremely difficult to apply in practice.
Imagine yourself a stranger, who is watching you is not difficult, and 15 minutes or even an hour, even with the tension, but it is possible to survive.
A longer time to be in the position of an outside observer does not work, because there is a voltage that causes fatigue.
But, a short time is not enough to thoroughly consider their actions and emotions with that came the Knowledge.
Ie, it is impossible to digest the contents of the book, looking in it for short periods of time. For deep development requires slow , thoughtful reading, with the possibility to re-read the places that are at once difficult to understand.
Surely you have happened.
When you read the book, I remember only the sequence of the presented events without underlying essence.
But here's a place you "hooked".
You return to the text and read it slower.
Something looms optional, but not yet clearly.
You again read this place, but very slowly and with stops to think about individual phrases or words.
You even put aside the book for some time to reflect on what they read, to grasp its hidden essence.
After some time is really a flash of inspiration.
You understand that a cursory reading brings you knowledge.
Unexpected knowledge came as it were, from nowhere in a very careful examination of some of the fragment.
That is the position of an outside observer, only in order to understand and correct their mistakes, and so be healed spiritually, you need an equally slow and laborious to observe what is happening in his own Inner world.
I want to draw your attention to the fact that despite the outward simplicity, the transition to spiritual healing is for the brain to "technical" difficulty.
Over the years the brain was learned in the waking state only look out at the outside world and therefore an attempt, even in imagination, closely observe your inner world is causing first fatigue, and then irritation.
But, without having to see their Inner world and to correct what is not right, can not be spiritual healing, for the Knowledge will not come.
So, the most important.
Knowledge and the subsequent spiritual healing based on self-Knowledge comes only in case of close observation of their inner world in a state of relaxation.
Meditation is good, but during meditation you are disconnected from the outside world, and disconnected, you can get the knowledge relative to past experience. You will learn the lessons of the past, but it does not warn against new mistakes you will make in the "here and now" (in everyday life), which can not be called meditative.
You will act in most cases just as one is not practicing meditation.
Later, during another meditation, you simply understand the mistakes committed a few days or a few hours ago.
Spiritual healing is meditation in everyday life, lies in the fact that you side closely watching what you are doing or going to do. Very carefully as you would consider yourself.
Such close scrutiny of their actions and thoughts leads to the fact that Knowledge comes as if by itself, God knows where.
But it's such a strong Knowledge that all the books on spiritual practices seem naive. You will laugh by official science, which feeds a huge staff of scientists, but these scientists together saw what I saw at the same time understand you.
I repeat, the human brain is more difficult to take the position of an observer during everyday activities in the outside world, in which we make mistakes and failures, then feeling of his imperfections.
This imperfection is expressed in the form of emotional pain.
What have you learned about what you need to take a bystander for yourself, doesn't mean you have the Knowledge.
You have just received information, but information is not Knowledge.
Real knowledge is INTERNAL FEELING.
Knowledge in the form of feelings - is a manifestation of matter in the fourth dimension, your ability to perceive on the level of feelings, what is hidden from consciousness.
To summarize.
So what is spiritual healing?
Spiritual healing is the Knowledge of the 4 dimensions, giving you the confidence and peace of mind on the grounds that you realize what was going on, because the knowledge of the 4 dimension is the form of existence of matter.<
Re: Why it doesn't work as expect or want
Another dispatch from the website http://www.astra-systems.net/
I removed it only to indicate some of the program implemented at the site. The reference point simply because this is a mandatory requirement of the author mailing.
Hello!
Today once again we will focus on these features, which you will not find in modern psychological and esoteric literature.
Some people have a problem with switching social plan on the spiritual, and Vice versa.
It is expressed in the following.
For example, a man who is successfully engaged in the business, ie how can, works on the social (material) terms.
Naturally, he wants more, and he was taken for its development: looking for new methods or teachers.
And here, often, is what he didn't expect.
He finds a teacher on the spiritual level at which he is willing to follow and tips which is trying to perform.
Moreover, the teacher instructs him in the social (material) plane, but on spiritual, i.e., he gives him only spiritual knowledge.
It seems, what more could you want, if spiritually you found somebody that you want to follow, what a pleasure to be with, someone nice to talk to?
But here's the incident: business start to "curl": the revs fall, clients run.
What's the problem?
Earlier, attention was entirely confined to the material plan. On the spiritual plane, he didn't wonder, although the need for it is experienced.
The difficulties which constantly arose in his path, forced to think that not everything is as simple as it seems. And the answers to their questions the man went to look for spiritually.
And it's all right, because many of our problems are the result of incorrect behaviour on a spiritual level.
Up to this point is still all right.
But here he was in contact with someone who decided to elect a spiritual teacher himself, or with those who are in such teachers itself is imposed.
The teacher genuinely switched him to the spiritual plane, because he just does.
Improving on the spiritual plan, the teacher is not engaged in the material (social) plan.
The man begins to rejoice in the fact that the teacher explain to him much of what he did not understand before, but all it concerns spiritual.
He was very pleased.
But unlike his teacher, a man bound to a social plan and he needed money not only to support the family, but also for business development.
So, instead of growth, the slowdown and the deterioration of Affairs.
Not going to torture you with guesses.
The main mistake that people found a teacher outside, in the outside world.
In the end, people became consumers and dependent on his teacher, who switched him to the spiritual plane, trying to help him become his own kind.
But people wanted something else: a spiritual plan he needed in order to better the way things were going on the social (material) level.
You are developing spiritually and are able to quickly switch from the material plane to the spiritual and back only in if for themselves are a teacher.
Ie, the teacher should not be outside and inside.
Then everything will be fine.
On the spiritual plan, a teacher who is exterior, can tell you sensible things, to much to open my eyes but all this concerns only spiritual, where he is "professional".
In social terms, such a teacher often find myself helpless and his advice would be for you to just harmful, because you cannot give advice in what he himself is not good.
It is impossible to put an equal sign between the spiritual level and spiritual need.
If the spiritual level is reduced to only the satisfaction of his spiritual needs, begin to crumble all sectors, which on a spiritual level is not filled.
This leads to the destruction of sectors that are under them, to the level below.
I think now you understand why it begins to break down sector "wealth", if not to be able to switch from the spiritual platform to the material.
Switch can only be yourself.
External master switch you don't want to, because you need it for the third spiritual level, as a listener, as a learner.
But you want to travel, live in comfort, have enough money, lots of friends, etc.
All of this relates to the social (material) level.
You are not satisfied with the position of a man who in the morning raises hands to the sky and thanked it for everything it will give, but does nothing to the sky, something essential gave.
The teacher don't want much, because he's comfortable on a spiritual level.
You also want to be comfortable both in social and on a spiritual level.
-True or false?
"So," you answer.
And rightly so. But for this the teacher should be not outside, but inside.
Anything outside (books, spiritual practices, our programs, etc.) - it's just the tools that you must use in the process of learning.
When interest in spiritual development comes from within, then their activities on a social level you envelop spirituality, connect with one another and combine knowledge and daily practice.
In this case, you start to feel really comfortable, as you are all well, both socially and on a spiritual level. These levels stand in conflict with each other because they belong to one, and the "I" within your subconscious, in your soul.<
I removed it only to indicate some of the program implemented at the site. The reference point simply because this is a mandatory requirement of the author mailing.
Hello!
Today once again we will focus on these features, which you will not find in modern psychological and esoteric literature.
Some people have a problem with switching social plan on the spiritual, and Vice versa.
It is expressed in the following.
For example, a man who is successfully engaged in the business, ie how can, works on the social (material) terms.
Naturally, he wants more, and he was taken for its development: looking for new methods or teachers.
And here, often, is what he didn't expect.
He finds a teacher on the spiritual level at which he is willing to follow and tips which is trying to perform.
Moreover, the teacher instructs him in the social (material) plane, but on spiritual, i.e., he gives him only spiritual knowledge.
It seems, what more could you want, if spiritually you found somebody that you want to follow, what a pleasure to be with, someone nice to talk to?
But here's the incident: business start to "curl": the revs fall, clients run.
What's the problem?
Earlier, attention was entirely confined to the material plan. On the spiritual plane, he didn't wonder, although the need for it is experienced.
The difficulties which constantly arose in his path, forced to think that not everything is as simple as it seems. And the answers to their questions the man went to look for spiritually.
And it's all right, because many of our problems are the result of incorrect behaviour on a spiritual level.
Up to this point is still all right.
But here he was in contact with someone who decided to elect a spiritual teacher himself, or with those who are in such teachers itself is imposed.
The teacher genuinely switched him to the spiritual plane, because he just does.
Improving on the spiritual plan, the teacher is not engaged in the material (social) plan.
The man begins to rejoice in the fact that the teacher explain to him much of what he did not understand before, but all it concerns spiritual.
He was very pleased.
But unlike his teacher, a man bound to a social plan and he needed money not only to support the family, but also for business development.
So, instead of growth, the slowdown and the deterioration of Affairs.
Not going to torture you with guesses.
The main mistake that people found a teacher outside, in the outside world.
In the end, people became consumers and dependent on his teacher, who switched him to the spiritual plane, trying to help him become his own kind.
But people wanted something else: a spiritual plan he needed in order to better the way things were going on the social (material) level.
You are developing spiritually and are able to quickly switch from the material plane to the spiritual and back only in if for themselves are a teacher.
Ie, the teacher should not be outside and inside.
Then everything will be fine.
On the spiritual plan, a teacher who is exterior, can tell you sensible things, to much to open my eyes but all this concerns only spiritual, where he is "professional".
In social terms, such a teacher often find myself helpless and his advice would be for you to just harmful, because you cannot give advice in what he himself is not good.
It is impossible to put an equal sign between the spiritual level and spiritual need.
If the spiritual level is reduced to only the satisfaction of his spiritual needs, begin to crumble all sectors, which on a spiritual level is not filled.
This leads to the destruction of sectors that are under them, to the level below.
I think now you understand why it begins to break down sector "wealth", if not to be able to switch from the spiritual platform to the material.
Switch can only be yourself.
External master switch you don't want to, because you need it for the third spiritual level, as a listener, as a learner.
But you want to travel, live in comfort, have enough money, lots of friends, etc.
All of this relates to the social (material) level.
You are not satisfied with the position of a man who in the morning raises hands to the sky and thanked it for everything it will give, but does nothing to the sky, something essential gave.
The teacher don't want much, because he's comfortable on a spiritual level.
You also want to be comfortable both in social and on a spiritual level.
-True or false?
"So," you answer.
And rightly so. But for this the teacher should be not outside, but inside.
Anything outside (books, spiritual practices, our programs, etc.) - it's just the tools that you must use in the process of learning.
When interest in spiritual development comes from within, then their activities on a social level you envelop spirituality, connect with one another and combine knowledge and daily practice.
In this case, you start to feel really comfortable, as you are all well, both socially and on a spiritual level. These levels stand in conflict with each other because they belong to one, and the "I" within your subconscious, in your soul.<
Re: Why it doesn't work as expect or want
Another dispatch from the website http://www.astra-systems.net/
Hello!
Some rushing around, trying to figure out what to give priority: spiritual or material?
Anything priority do not need to give. Everything should be in moderation.
You will be "disabled" if you start to give something priority.
Imagine that your left leg is material, and right leg - spiritual.
As one right and one left leg you will not go far.
You'll go forward calmly and confidently, if a step with the left foot follows the right foot.
Here and treat the spiritual and the material.
Now the information is just for everyone, no matter what views you hold.
After death man passes into the astral plane.
He gets there where he wants, and there where vibrations of the same spectrumthat was inherent in the bulk of earthly life.
Ie, if here on Earth, you lived in the mountain, you'll find yourself on the astral plane among those who are unfortunates like you.
Living here in joy, and in the astral plane will be in that layer, dominated by joy.
Feelings with or without cause you just kill yourselfpreparing for the transition to such a low level of the astral plane, which you obviously do not like.
Layer of the "joy" of the astral plane, you are not wanted, if you used to grieve.
what you used to - it's your vibration and one or another level of the astral plane, you is due to the phenomenon of resonance vibrations: get to the layer of vibration that is in resonance with your vibration.
Earth is given to man to correct past mistakes.
This is a chance to obtain a higher vibration, due to the sensationsand subsequently move to a higher astral plane.
If you suffer, don't think that the end of life, you suffering will be over. This will continue on the astral plane.
Sometimes think about what you are doing and where it leads you.
Inside the astral plane to fix your vibration is impossible, because he is deprived of feelings.
Once you have already been on the astral plane and the earthly world came to correct past mistakes through your feelings.
Life is given us in sensation.
Consciousness also deals with classification of these sensations, through perceptions, worldview.
At the lowest level of the astral plane can be together, like a rich man forever dissatisfied with something, trembling for their savings, and bum - angry with the people because they do not provide the mind a life as he wants.
Remember your state when you were doing any work: singing, drawing, making, inventing something.
In my soul there was a feeling of joy.
That's what you came here.
You're in the image and likeness created.
You were sent here to correct past mistakes, not to find new problems just because you don't control your conscious and the subconscious.
life on Earth - is a school of feelings.
Learn before it's too late.<
Hello!
Some rushing around, trying to figure out what to give priority: spiritual or material?
Anything priority do not need to give. Everything should be in moderation.
You will be "disabled" if you start to give something priority.
Imagine that your left leg is material, and right leg - spiritual.
As one right and one left leg you will not go far.
You'll go forward calmly and confidently, if a step with the left foot follows the right foot.
Here and treat the spiritual and the material.
Now the information is just for everyone, no matter what views you hold.
After death man passes into the astral plane.
He gets there where he wants, and there where vibrations of the same spectrumthat was inherent in the bulk of earthly life.
Ie, if here on Earth, you lived in the mountain, you'll find yourself on the astral plane among those who are unfortunates like you.
Living here in joy, and in the astral plane will be in that layer, dominated by joy.
Feelings with or without cause you just kill yourselfpreparing for the transition to such a low level of the astral plane, which you obviously do not like.
Layer of the "joy" of the astral plane, you are not wanted, if you used to grieve.
what you used to - it's your vibration and one or another level of the astral plane, you is due to the phenomenon of resonance vibrations: get to the layer of vibration that is in resonance with your vibration.
Earth is given to man to correct past mistakes.
This is a chance to obtain a higher vibration, due to the sensationsand subsequently move to a higher astral plane.
If you suffer, don't think that the end of life, you suffering will be over. This will continue on the astral plane.
Sometimes think about what you are doing and where it leads you.
Inside the astral plane to fix your vibration is impossible, because he is deprived of feelings.
Once you have already been on the astral plane and the earthly world came to correct past mistakes through your feelings.
Life is given us in sensation.
Consciousness also deals with classification of these sensations, through perceptions, worldview.
At the lowest level of the astral plane can be together, like a rich man forever dissatisfied with something, trembling for their savings, and bum - angry with the people because they do not provide the mind a life as he wants.
Remember your state when you were doing any work: singing, drawing, making, inventing something.
In my soul there was a feeling of joy.
That's what you came here.
You're in the image and likeness created.
You were sent here to correct past mistakes, not to find new problems just because you don't control your conscious and the subconscious.
life on Earth - is a school of feelings.
Learn before it's too late.<
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Re: Why it doesn't work as expect or want
I really don't like this "response"!Смелый wrote:If you are suffering, don't think that the end of life, you suffering will be over. This will continue on the astral plane.
Much more logically following the concept of Walsh:"God: In the hereafter there is no "pain" - either emotional, physical or spiritual. I mentioned above that even those who imagine that deserve "hell", and send them back to suffer. They just see how to go through this experience without emotional involvement".
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Re: Why it doesn't work as expect or want
Then "why bother"?!Вадим Перелыгин wrote:They just watched go through this experience without emotional involvement".
Re: Why it doesn't work as expect or want
There are different options. And how You think. And my vision. They can be. Can not be. Can be others. And there may be no options. The point of arguing?Вадим Перелыгин wrote:I really don't like this "response"!Смелый wrote:If you are suffering, don't think that the end of life, you suffering will be over. This will continue on the astral plane.
"God: In the hereafter there is no "pain" - either emotional, physical or spiritual. I mentioned above that even those who imagine that deserve "hell", and send them back to suffer. They just see how to go through this experience without emotional involvement".
This topic was discussed here viewtopic.php?p=40655#p40655
But let's think.
There is no pain. There are watching experience of those who are there now. Then why coming into this world, each of us knows his own experience and not use it?
Next.
Why do some here insist, others still on the drum. And many do it with an eye on the spirit world. What would advance to stake out a spot? Why? If everything is equal.
Maybe there are some equal? Those who are guessing by what rules to play and very here warning in advance. The rest up to equal the - plow?
About mentioned here the effect of the hundredth monkey. I wrote above that the question is, what are the previous 99 monkeys.
So. On the ground is probably running a more complex scheme. And flocks of monkeys - several. But if the principle - whose pack more consciousness of the flock and will become a leading and dominant? Then it is not difficult to predict that because monkeys bearing the sufferings on the earth more, and the probability of victory of their consciousness - great.
In this regard, there may be a chance to be THERE AMONG EQUALS of those who developed in his scheme, and did not succumb to mass effect? Including memorization and blind adherence to the unknown person written books? I do not mean the authors indicated on the cover of the books. I mean the forces that have invested in the ears of the authors of the thoughts which seem to us the only correct one.<
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Вадим Перелыгин
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Re: Why it doesn't work as expect or want
From the book 5 Walsh
"God, do Not forget that the highest authority for yourself is you.
When you read the Talmud or the Bible, the Bhagavad Gita or the Koran, the Vedas or the Book of Mormon or any other sacred text, do not place your source of authority outside of yourself. Instead, go inside to check whether discovered there is truth in harmony with the truth that you will find it in your heart. If so, do not tell others: "This is a true book." Say: "From my point of view, this is a true book." And if others ask you how you live, finding the truth inside, tell him that your way of life is not better it is just different.
...
Understand that you live among illusion and that none of them is a reality.
The illusion seems real, because too many people believe that this is not an illusion.
Even today, when your modern science - tired of the mistakes of the past - the solemn promise first to observe and then to draw conclusions, its conclusions cannot be trusted. This is because you are not able to see anything objectively.
Science has come to the conclusion that nothing observable cannot be affected by the observer. The leaders of the spiritual path proclaimed it centuries ago, and now it's captured science.
In other words, you are looking at the Illusion from within the Illusion.
Therefore, any you have made the conclusion on the Illusion based on Illusion. Therefore, every conclusion is an illusion.
In most cases, you just accept what others accept.
Your choice — choose what others have chosen. As a result, you are re-living the history of their ancestors — as they relive the history of their ancestors to the seventh generation.
Day, when you stop to choose what was chosen (for you) will be the moment of your liberation.
Understand the purpose of the Illusion, you don't want to get rid of it until your own objectives are achieved.
Your goal is not only to know and experience Who You Really Are, but to create Who You Will be Later.
Your function is to recreate yourself anew in every single Moment of "Now" in the next grandest version of the most beautiful of all their ideas about Who You Are. This is the process you call evolution.
In this case, you will experience this peace in the experience as you decide for yourself.
You realize that experience itself is action, not reaction; what you do, not what you get.
When you understand this, everything in your life will change.
When will you know enough people, will change everything on your planet.
Close the time, when you will rise above primitive cultures. Close the time, when you make a quantum leap in your understanding."<
"God, do Not forget that the highest authority for yourself is you.
When you read the Talmud or the Bible, the Bhagavad Gita or the Koran, the Vedas or the Book of Mormon or any other sacred text, do not place your source of authority outside of yourself. Instead, go inside to check whether discovered there is truth in harmony with the truth that you will find it in your heart. If so, do not tell others: "This is a true book." Say: "From my point of view, this is a true book." And if others ask you how you live, finding the truth inside, tell him that your way of life is not better it is just different.
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Understand that you live among illusion and that none of them is a reality.
The illusion seems real, because too many people believe that this is not an illusion.
Even today, when your modern science - tired of the mistakes of the past - the solemn promise first to observe and then to draw conclusions, its conclusions cannot be trusted. This is because you are not able to see anything objectively.
Science has come to the conclusion that nothing observable cannot be affected by the observer. The leaders of the spiritual path proclaimed it centuries ago, and now it's captured science.
In other words, you are looking at the Illusion from within the Illusion.
Therefore, any you have made the conclusion on the Illusion based on Illusion. Therefore, every conclusion is an illusion.
In most cases, you just accept what others accept.
Your choice — choose what others have chosen. As a result, you are re-living the history of their ancestors — as they relive the history of their ancestors to the seventh generation.
Day, when you stop to choose what was chosen (for you) will be the moment of your liberation.
Understand the purpose of the Illusion, you don't want to get rid of it until your own objectives are achieved.
Your goal is not only to know and experience Who You Really Are, but to create Who You Will be Later.
Your function is to recreate yourself anew in every single Moment of "Now" in the next grandest version of the most beautiful of all their ideas about Who You Are. This is the process you call evolution.
In this case, you will experience this peace in the experience as you decide for yourself.
You realize that experience itself is action, not reaction; what you do, not what you get.
When you understand this, everything in your life will change.
When will you know enough people, will change everything on your planet.
Close the time, when you will rise above primitive cultures. Close the time, when you make a quantum leap in your understanding."<
Re: Why it doesn't work as expect or want
I do not agree. It's not quite true. I'm inclined to believe that after death the soul of man of course gets to another level of existence, but it is not the astral. For the soul can move on them. The level of sleep and the astral plane are two different things. But there are still a few levels. Soul will go to one of the levels, but not on the astral plane, it will be a different level. And it does not stay there. If people learned to live and enjoy, no one is blaming their problems and to create their own destiny - it goes to the nextСмелый wrote:After death man passes into the astral plane.
He gets there where he wants, and there where vibrations of the same spectrumthat was inherent in the bulk of earthly life.
Ie, if here on Earth, you lived in the mountain, you'll find yourself on the astral plane among those who are unfortunates like you.
Living here in joy, and in the astral plane will be in that layer, dominated by joy.
Feelings with or without cause you just kill yourselfpreparing for the transition to such a low level of the astral plane, which you obviously do not like.
Layer of the "joy" of the astral plane, you are not wanted, if you used to grieve.
what you used to - it's your vibration and one or another level of the astral plane, you is due to the phenomenon of resonance vibrations: get to the layer of vibration that is in resonance with your vibration.
Earth is given to man to correct past mistakes.
This is a chance to obtain a higher vibration, due to the sensationsand subsequently move to a higher astral plane.
If you suffer, don't think that the end of life, you suffering will be over. This will continue on the astral plane.
Sometimes think about what you are doing and where it leads you.
Inside the astral plane to fix your vibration is impossible, because he is deprived of feelings.
Once you have already been on the astral plane and the earthly world came to correct past mistakes through your feelings.
Life is given us in sensation.
Consciousness also deals with classification of these sensations, through perceptions, worldview.
At the lowest level of the astral plane can be together, like a rich man forever dissatisfied with something, trembling for their savings, and bum - angry with the people because they do not provide the mind a life as he wants.
Remember your state when you were doing any work: singing, drawing, making, inventing something.
In my soul there was a feeling of joy.
That's what you came here.
You're in the image and likeness created.
You were sent here to correct past mistakes, not to find new problems just because you don't control your conscious and the subconscious.
life on Earth - is a school of feelings.
Learn before it's too late.
the level of existence. And if not, it reincarnates in another body, where he continues to correct the mistakes of the past life. Karma works. Who is completely estranged from joy the last time - to be born sick, or in poverty or in a poor family, i.e. the initial conditions will become even harder, so he learned to cope with everything. That's all. There is no heaven and hell. This is nonsense, invented by religious fanatics. The next level of existence - it is the ability to create by thought, to exist outside of time and space, without a body, to become mentors for those who are on a lower level of existence. It's something like guardian angels. If you don't learn to manage your life, then you will just be reborn in new bodies for a very long time. What happens to all of us for a long time. What is called end of the world really is a stage when the vibration of the earth will rise to the level of joy and most people will remember their past lives and the fact that people on earth in order to learn how to manage your life and understand what surrounds them only what they themselves invented. Ie all around you are the way you yourself want to treat you. Everything bad comes into your life only because of your thoughts and beliefs imposed by someone or by you personally. All good also. Sooner or later, all graduate and move on to the trail. level. To help they can not only inhabitants of our planet, and other planets. And if you want they can incarnate on any planet to the body, keeping all memories of all lives and teach people directly. Such beings was Jesus, Buddha, etc. people. Such creatures as we are, just past the level where we are now. If things don't turn out the way you want - either you did not believe in their strength to the end, or just go the wrong way and not what was born.<
Re: Why it doesn't work as expect or want
So, why is so much of what we want or plan, often does not work, or is it the opposite?
Because we have a Subconscious. Living by the rules and carefully and vigilantly observing and recording everything that happens around us. Everything that happens to us is stored and when repeated, the past is used as experience on the basis of which a verdict: "It can be done or is it impossible to do or us is not supposed to due to some reasons, including karmic."
Therefore, if experience had negative consequences (the creation of a business and subsequent collapse with a threat to life or health, a bad marriage, etc.) plus attitudes obtained in early childhood also has a negative assessment of our aspirations ("Honest work many not make any money," "All rich people are thieves", "easily not pull the fish out of the work", etc.), our company or will not take place or will fall apart very quickly. And here will not help any devices. No bracelets, no amplifiers, no Radionics. Because our Subconscious mind is still stronger. And this is our most powerful mechanism of influence will still do what he thinks is right based on its setting. They told him at that time the only true. Moreover, it is done for our own safety. Just our Subconscious understands it.
But if the goal is to focus our Consciousness, corresponds to the setting of the Subconscious, then we simply fly on the wave of success. To do abut it is not necessary. And people and resources - they will be in abundance.
Now, why do many do the opposite? It's very simple. Where when we what is expected. Received the opposite. Once received, two received three. Consciousness has noticed this process and realized its for real. I WOULD DO THE OPPOSITE. The subconscious mind took it as the norm like some kind of installation and the beginning of its run. ALL!
Our consciousness can be compared to a ship's captain on the bridge. The subconscious mind - the staff and mechanisms. Who execute the orders of the captain.
Therefore, we need the WILL, the TIME, EFFORT and METHODS. That would WITH GREAT RESPECT TO the SUBCONSCIOUS, to tell him: "from NOW on WE DO SO AND SO, OUR GOAL is the SAME. Again, it takes time and will. Need various programs and methods of influencing the Subconscious mind. Habit to think positively no matter what.
Of course, there is also the issue of setting goals. It is associated with our experiences and current place in life. Because if we work as an accountant and have never created a business tycoon to. But your money can appear even in much larger quantities than we can dream.
Good luck to everyone!<
Because we have a Subconscious. Living by the rules and carefully and vigilantly observing and recording everything that happens around us. Everything that happens to us is stored and when repeated, the past is used as experience on the basis of which a verdict: "It can be done or is it impossible to do or us is not supposed to due to some reasons, including karmic."
Therefore, if experience had negative consequences (the creation of a business and subsequent collapse with a threat to life or health, a bad marriage, etc.) plus attitudes obtained in early childhood also has a negative assessment of our aspirations ("Honest work many not make any money," "All rich people are thieves", "easily not pull the fish out of the work", etc.), our company or will not take place or will fall apart very quickly. And here will not help any devices. No bracelets, no amplifiers, no Radionics. Because our Subconscious mind is still stronger. And this is our most powerful mechanism of influence will still do what he thinks is right based on its setting. They told him at that time the only true. Moreover, it is done for our own safety. Just our Subconscious understands it.
But if the goal is to focus our Consciousness, corresponds to the setting of the Subconscious, then we simply fly on the wave of success. To do abut it is not necessary. And people and resources - they will be in abundance.
Now, why do many do the opposite? It's very simple. Where when we what is expected. Received the opposite. Once received, two received three. Consciousness has noticed this process and realized its for real. I WOULD DO THE OPPOSITE. The subconscious mind took it as the norm like some kind of installation and the beginning of its run. ALL!
Our consciousness can be compared to a ship's captain on the bridge. The subconscious mind - the staff and mechanisms. Who execute the orders of the captain.
Therefore, we need the WILL, the TIME, EFFORT and METHODS. That would WITH GREAT RESPECT TO the SUBCONSCIOUS, to tell him: "from NOW on WE DO SO AND SO, OUR GOAL is the SAME. Again, it takes time and will. Need various programs and methods of influencing the Subconscious mind. Habit to think positively no matter what.
Of course, there is also the issue of setting goals. It is associated with our experiences and current place in life. Because if we work as an accountant and have never created a business tycoon to. But your money can appear even in much larger quantities than we can dream.
Good luck to everyone!<