About the players, soundcards and other Goodies...

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:44

Евгений Кош wrote:
Андрей Кабанков wrote:
Евгений Кош wrote:Received the disks.
Was prososal on different CD players (iriver, pictures)
I have the feeling that high cut.

Here are scratching their heads.. whether to take one of the disks and dopati shopping, through CD players, whether it is..
Disks all as is necessary,all that should be there - all there, nothing cut.
OK.
Maybe my demands are too high..
simple audio CDs with Russian musicians at a high sound "cooler". well, okay.. if there is anything.. so there ..

What is there to wonder...
Take a simple spectrum analyzer in the same Winamp and compare...

B&S · Post by **B&S** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:30

I bought the same player NEXX NF-910, now listen to CDs with it, subjectively, like the sound was better than from the computer, and more convenient.
If you are interested, you can lament about it here http://www.ixbt.com/multimedia/nexx-nf910.shtml

right beside it, you can read about headphones, remember asked questions here
http://www.ixbt.com/proaudio.shtml
http://www.ixbt.com/multimedia.shtml

Раум · Post by **Раум** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:24

Hello!
I read (rather read) a large enough part of this forum, but I would like that someone has summarized and clearly answered the following questions (again

)
Please clearly answer the following few questions:
1.I'm going to seriously engage with these machines, which option mindmachine more preferable in the ratio the price/quality/performance/compatibility with other devices (as I understand Innerpulse)
2.The forum does not found reviews about Luma 10, what is the reason? What are the pros and cons of this machine, its capabilities?
3.Could you assess the value (as a collective term) of certain types of glasses? Could you offer two “best” points and the desired sequence of acquisition (if I'm not going to buy more than 2 points voosche and right especially)? Could you describe what points you want to use in the beginning of workouts in mid and advanced levels? (and how long at each stage) (corresponding to the previously selected machine, question 1)
4.What programs and how long you use a mind machine? (for example, with alpha work 2 to 3 weeks, then moving on to...)
5.Strobo what discs do you recommend to listen in the beginning? How long? (for example, Explorer cases, then, morning and evening, so many minutes, then...)
6.Offer specific recommendations regarding the convenience and efficiency of technical use of cars (for example, I use this kind of batteries, they are missing out on so much, I use these headphones because they give a cool sound)
7.Could you write the desired program and the conditions of training with the machine? (for example, to do so much with that before the appearance of such sensations, then move to the next stage)
8.What are the main challenges stalkivayutsya beginners using machines? Describe the main methods of their elimination.
9.Recommendations and links to where you can download software, music, Strabo, and other extra files and when, for what, how to apply and use these files
10.Important additions concerning the training with mind machine?
11.And even so what can I use player (flash) which will definitely be without loss of quality, to read the drives Andrew (after the corresponding copy on the PC)? Player which precisely reads Wav and costs around 2000-3500 rubles.

Sorry for the confusion and for the fact that You will have to repeat
Some of the questions you can not answer, because the answers are not hard to find on the forum.

Two years ago I found a device called Q-jump (here http://www.tecon.com.ua/info-of-service10) what you can say about him. In this device used the principle of biological feedback on the basis of scanning brain activity, and in my opinion the training of the ability of mind control with the help of this device (or similar) several times on the effectiveness of training mindmachine. If I'm right? Also consider that the use of “open” points (q-jump displays monitor information about brain activity) together mindmachines and q-ump can give a really quick full mastery of the alpha, theta, gamma States. The cost of the instrument about 600 rubles green)
Also interested in your opinion about http://egoland.ru/product/ this priborchik.

All in advance thanks for answers

Сергей Владимирович · Post by **Сергей Владимирович** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:11

Hello, Mind!

About the device "Eurotrainer-TM1". Buy electronic thermometer, such as a car and will be the same, only much cheaper.

Sincerely, Sergey.

и-Ван · Post by **и-Ван** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 20:34

Raum, where to buy Q-jump?

Раум · Post by **Раум** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:34

And van, I contacted the head of this site, asked a few questions, including methods of acquisition of the device, its cost and the reviews about its capabilities. As You see the website of the Ukrainian, so the unit would need to order from there. Although I can't remember for what reason (2 years ago), but it is recommended to contact the manufacturers of Q-jump in Korea, as it is supposedly easier. I recommend You to contact and find out the procedure for ordering device in the mail korzhov@users.ukrsat.com. I would be grateful if received a result, You'll let us know, as I'm also interested in this device.

Ask Andrei Patrushev also to evaluate the "interestingness" of this device.
Thanks in advance!

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 23:33

Interesting Q-jump EEG measures or that 4th channel EEG device costs about 3000$ I think.

Шум · Post by **Шум** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 22:26

Recently,namely in December last year, cd/mp3 player panasonik SL-CT582V.

P. S. sorry, it was the announcement of the next message.

Шум · Post by **Шум** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 22:29

Recently,namely in December last year, cd/mp3 player panasonik SL-CT582V. Now.. going to buy a new one.. Probably guess why.

Can you recommend something more durable. From CD/MP3 players.

Влад · Post by **Влад** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:15

I get accustomed to Sony D-NE 830.
Just practicing with the CDs and the other Andrew.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 15:35

Шум wrote:I Bought recently,namely in December last year, cd/mp3 player panasonik SL-CT582V. Now.. going to buy a new one.. Probably guess why.

Can you recommend something more durable. From CD/MP3 players.

No luck!:)Where to buy???

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 23:45

Шум wrote:I Bought recently,namely in December last year, cd/mp3 player panasonik SL-CT582V. Now.. going to buy a new one.. Probably guess why.

Can you recommend something more durable. From CD/MP3 players.

My personal opinion - Panas CT830 SL + headphones Sony MDR XD-400 = good choice.. chose a long time.. many have tried.

Шум · Post by **Шум** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 0:21

to Dimas
bought on the top crust, on my own. Pursued to where it is cheaper. Yes.. And it turns out cheaper, because made in China. Here.

And if the player is worth such a, frankly, an ominous inscription, run away from him. Better if made in Korea, Malaysia, nacetyltransferase other end of the country.

to Eugene Kosh,

I had, or have a Panasonic SL CT582V. That, however, is not happy.
I read, a little, the opinions of users cd/mp3 players, and that is this:
Panasonic mainly from China, iRiver, unreliable and even dumb, remains Sony, or something else...

Джим · Post by **Джим** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:38

Audiostrobe MP3 huddle well. By kr. as 320kb/s and "independent channels" (Lame does not support, I tested on Adobe autdition 1.0). And all this nonsense that the Audiostrobe discs are unreadable, even as to be able only need. And soft to have adequate drive. Another thing is that in Stereo MP3 beats stop working. Ie, that is my feeling, and it's believable. ie Glasses are flashing as they should, and clean sound-not impressive. So there you go.
On sound cards-almost all modern cards have only rabochuu sample rate -- 48,000 Hz. Or multiples of it. (you can verify this by looking at the frequency, as a rule, only quartz for your lubisi the map). The moral -- any CD player (Fs=44100 Hz) will be on the CD sound a lot better than on a computer.
And for BW-is MB. just the slaughter, depending on the characteristics of software and hardware. The same applies to software BW-generators -- if they allow you to set the frequency of discr. -- set or 48000 Hz, or 16,000 Hz. Otherwise -- "what a mess this BW-Gen"...
And in General, computers are not intended...

Success, Jim.

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 13:33

Шум wrote:
to Eugene Kosh,

I had, or have a Panasonic SL CT582V. That, however, is not happy.
I read, a little, the opinions of users cd/mp3 players, and that is this:
Panasonic mainly from China, iRiver, unreliable and even dumb, remains Sony, or something else...

From China now almost everything. So it's hard at the moment to understand Your offer "Panasonic mainly from China," is that good or bad?
For example, in a computer. the technique is now from 60 to 90% of what is in the comp from China.. and about the quality - well, look at Interimpulse appearance - so say the American hand-made.. and then the chinks will do better
Compared to Sony, IRiver, Samsung .. looking for Peeoner said as his representatives in our city that Peeoner in Russia, not imported portable CD players.. ( which I was surprised)..
The sound quality is more than just the Panasonic. ( by the way, compare the technical specifications of Your and my model). Sony did not show the best side.
By the way - to find just a CD player - is almost impossible.. and if find, only unpopular or unknown brands such as Sitronics.
The most important thing - quality headphones.. of course we should - "mugs".. without them about any quality will be judged on deletetsky..

Влад · Post by **Влад** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 18:36

I have a SONY NE830. New, best reviews c forums on sound, and I more than any other sound I liked better than the Panasonic(but this is IMHO, the ears are different). Made in Malaysia.

Now I use with headphones from Innerpulse. There is a sense to replace them? If Yes, then what?

Ear-plugs probably do not fit?

Развивающийся · Post by **Развивающийся** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 21:31

Guys, is player Panasonic SL-CT 800 and 820 to impossible as any other player of this brand with a line output. Rang in the Russian representation Panasonic, what I have been told that cd players are gradually removed from the market and so far nothing else will not be releasing. How can that be in this case?

Of course, I understand that there are other companies that produce decent products, but how to choose a player, most suitable for listening audiostrobe disk and for use with a mind machine.

In the future I am going to buy InnerPulse, and I want to listen to CDs Andrei Patrushev on the player (to purchase music center will not, and the player is much more convenient and compact thing, especially for listening at work and able to take on business trips)

Advise which player (with line out) would be a good replacement Panasonic for these purposes.
It would be interesting to hear the comments of people who use that m\m and audiostrobe disks, with different players, and of course, the review Andrew!!!

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 22:00

Frankly, in gland I am not strong. I personally prefer the Panas. The problems with audiostrobe I somehow not. Now, I do temporarily use Sony D-NE320 Walkman (without line out) and is also quite pleased.
For headphones I will say that even though I'm very fond of ultrasone (no echofon not necessary), but Innerpulse are very good headphones IMHO...

Развивающийся · Post by **Развивающийся** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 22:46

Okay, then how do You use this player with a typewriter, if there is no line-out? The machine, with some session, include separately from the player?
What do you mean by "ultrasone"

Влад · Post by **Влад** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 23:14

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Now, I do temporarily use Sony D-NE320 Walkman (without line out) and is also quite pleased.

Andrew I have here a Sony D-NE830 Walkman (without a linear output, that is, it is combined with the output under earphones) and Innerpulse, in General, a piece of iron, we have almost the same. How do you adjust the volume when listening Conductor? In my configuration, you cannot control the volume with the cars and audiostrobe depends on the volume of the player. The volume of low - no Audiostrobe, high - there is a constant light signal with glasses(Indigo) without pulsation. Put on the average player level is now, on the machine the average brightness, then what effect there is, the Guide pulses. As it should be? That is, there must be a ripple instead of a uniformly luminous diodes?
And the Northern Lights audiostrobe responds less to the volume of the player.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:31

Развивающийся wrote:Okay, then how do You use this player with a typewriter, if there is no line-out? The machine, with some session, include separately from the player?
What do you mean by "ultrasone"

I was quite happy with the volume in which works fine (that is blinking) audiostrobe, so I Innerpulse connected to the headphone output.
"Ultrasone" is headphones Ultrason, at one time they were sold on our website but it does provider some strange caught - a very large delay...

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:34

Влад wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:Now, I do temporarily use Sony D-NE320 Walkman (without line out) and is also quite pleased.
Andrew I have here a Sony D-NE830 Walkman (without a linear output, that is, it is combined with the output under earphones) and Innerpulse, in General, a piece of iron, we have almost the same. How do you adjust the volume when listening Conductor? In my configuration, you cannot control the volume with the cars and audiostrobe depends on the volume of the player. The volume of low - no Audiostrobe, high - there is a constant light signal with glasses(Indigo) without pulsation. Put on the average player level is now, on the machine the average brightness, then what effect there is, the Guide pulses. As it should be? That is, there must be a ripple instead of a uniformly luminous diodes?
And the Northern Lights audiostrobe responds less to the volume of the player.

Yes, there should be pulsation. Better to expose them from the low volume - then the drawing will be clearer.

Развивающийся · Post by **Развивающийся** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:31

Then it turns out that the presence in the player line-out is not necessarily because the machine can be put through the headphone Jack?

It is very good, you can buy a player without this entry and everything will work!!!
Andrew, thank you!!!

Феникс · Post by **Феникс** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 21:33

Развивающийся wrote:Guys, is player Panasonic SL-CT 800 and 820 to impossible as any other player of this brand with a line output. Rang in the Russian representation Panasonic, what I have been told that cd players are gradually removed from the market and so far nothing else will not be releasing. How can that be in this case?

Of course, I understand that there are other companies that produce decent products, but how to choose a player, most suitable for listening audiostrobe disk and for use with a mind machine.

In the future I am going to buy InnerPulse, and I want to listen to CDs Andrei Patrushev on the player (to purchase music center will not, and the player is much more convenient and compact thing, especially for listening at work and able to take on business trips)

Advise which player (with line out) would be a good replacement Panasonic for these purposes.
It would be interesting to hear the comments of people who use that m\m and audiostrobe disks, with different players, and of course, the review Andrew!!!

Today went to our "Eldorado", so there still are the Panas: SL-CT 820 ( R. 3990), SL-CT 830 (R. 3890)... But the prices seem a bit tough for me "was bought" equipment...

( Maybe, in fact, and are still...

)
What say You, gentlemen of experience, they are worth the money?... Or there is a sense to take something easier, like the same SL-CT 720 for 2000 wooden???...

Джим · Post by **Джим** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:05

Comments:
1. Audiostrobe CDs are all different written and the level of the Audiostrobe signal are different. In any CL., when I bought NP100, sold me 2 pieces: "Concentration & Deep Sleep" and "Tibetan Highlands". The signal level and/or gate differs by > 4 dB!!! Ie if Tibet plays fine with the line output (I'm not too young Japanese stationary Technics -- personally measured, line-out ACC. GOST and international standards), the Concentration -- not blinking at all and units an opportunity to use it -- to connect to the headphone output and to select appropriate volume.
2. Normal headphone amp (in any fixed player) will never spoil your a/gate -- if you just dish soap, then of course there can be issues with the DAC and the fact that he (ie line out).
3. With portable players possible problem-striving for low power consumption and simplify the circuitry, some guys (especially SONY was seen in the days of cassette Walkman's) design output. amplifier so that the supplied headphones are an integral part of completing. cascade. Ie if you stick in there something else (on resistance). the result is unpredictable. This, incidentally, is elementary treated with brazed on cable ACC. loads. And in General, I hope that the days of iron passed, however.