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Post by Dimas » Tue Sep 07, 2010 14:55

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the Most powerful of them is the high population density, if one wants to do something, he is faced with the passive resistance of millions, in the picture of the world which this change - no. It's hard to be in dissonance with their world view.
Whether correctly I understood you, Michael, that:
1) one person as the unit, it is very difficult to change the world, even in "everyday household" part, because he, anyway, will encounter passive resistance at least their environment, as these changes do not fit into their view of the world?
2) citizen can save or change of place of residence (suburb, but also have Internet,TV,radio), or media deprivation?
3) for the active impact on the world around need to have quite a few people, or not to have?

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 15:11

МерКаБа wrote:
Михаил_ wrote:"the third weekend go to the country, and each full moon, how can this be?".
not bad! :shock:
Michael why, the same Melchizedek says about the fourth dimension, where we will rise 4m. like all highly developed beings who possess the Christ consciousness and to communicate with their extraterrestrial maternal and paternal aspects? Besides, he often mentions about the materialization of thoughts and that in the fourth dimension, this materialization is instant. Plus teaches the Merkaba meditation, which, essentially, may cause the occurrence of the sidhe, including the realization of any desire.
What is the meaning of such pledged program???
1. You never know what someone said? He was there and saw him? And I've seen a lot of people we have extremely good your perception (possibly correct) to a different litter and that they instilled in the head other sources. Melchisedec by the way, I'm told its readers, himself wrote that among his sources close to hundred.
Cool batch of course....
2. Show me practicing this meditation, which is something that can. I'm gonna compete we'll see.
I've seen a lot of mighty people who can do many things. And none of them were followers of Melchisedek and not about what the Merkabah they say. Said the opposite - that everything is in man and man has just need to start using.
The way a person gaining experience, complicates its structure of the cocoon and this determines how well it can use a primary quality, which has everything (well, relatively speaking genetically inherent). The truth determines not only that....
So, this Merkabah looks like on the one hand as a kind of natural figure, but its action may be due to the simplification of the structures of consciousness. Type-thick and tough combs. Ie from merging experience of any kind, that facilitates the manipulation.

3.Just say - I think the author believes what he writes, he is only a translator.

4. Let's think, in which case the world is plastic to the extent promised M?
It's either a chip person left in the world that does not exist in the material and it will be plastic. Or status of postsmile in the first stage until the astral body of a person and builds imaginary worlds. Both has the same problem - not enough energy.
Possible another possibility is a splitting at a key point where the whole world is not stable, such as branching occurs in several variants, a small group of people in some very thin thread of reality. Separate to this group of people. Such a world would be terribly plastic (magic), but extremely unstable. Usually thin branches, short. It's like on a normal tree that you see in nature. The growth will be like imagine and all the rest without further measurements, only the physical properties of thin branches of probabilities.
In the first two cases the situation is generally problematic....since it deals with the death of followers. The third extended to her.

In all variants from the scene removed a lot of people not involved in the management system on the planet, but with the awakening abilities. Well, as I noticed on a nearby branch - it used to be easier, were burned at the stake...:)

Is the objective process of change in our world, but not associated with a dimension, rather, with some return of mogucnosti the world, contrary to the accepted artificially stabilizing factors.
When is there a artificially high population and population density, it threatens to conflict models in the world, which already increases the number of accidents and technical failures in the cities. But it doesn't shift dimensions, only the return is artificially stalled .

In addition different people may describe the same terms in a totally different phenomenon (something, again, reading) and Vice versa is one of the phenomena to describe in different words. So that one it would be a disaster, another may not.

For example I saw a version from a well known person on which these trite changes of dimensions is described as the awakening of human abilities (without direct changes to the physical layout), due to which people will be able to better manage the reality of the mental. These dimensions vosprijatija that were always there,but many drowned or degradable or not developed he calls the "great transition into a new dimension". Well, this is a peaceful option, not including terminology, normally coinciding with what I see really happening in the world.. But I wouldn't call it a transition and especially a great, but beautiful labels do not prohibit, the more they began to hang before.
It should be understood that an unstable world is not holding thought forms in physical objects, and therefore can not constitute an energy cycle, i.e. to maintain harmony and to turn inward man, so to speak "food" energy.
In other words, if the world loses its stability until it stops, it not only breaks up completely myself (i.e., degraded, and not progressing), but ceases to be a source of energy for people living in it.

All of the above is of course only my personal perception. Although I've been on the road especially listened to lectures on the topic of BM 10большой Arkan, is devoted to branchings of the world, it was interesting to not miss anything out of focus. It's funny, but even though I operate another model (however, in many areas partially overlapping with it) on the practical part, he described the processes around the same words, although the subjects of the lectures were related to the transitions between worlds, and not issue new dimensions. Just there, too, of the topic of narrow branches, manipulating reality and the reasons for the formation of forks, change the measure of mogucnosti the world and so on.
Contentedly said cover point by point the similarities of perception.
I this material had not listened.

Yeah, one thing I especially like is the handling of concepts, which no one has any idea and experience. Experience is accumulated gradually, so "we will deal with the aspects and have the consciousness of someone" is the field of questions - "and what he is Smoking???".<

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Post by Dimas » Tue Sep 07, 2010 15:15

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Well, under "change the world" I mean actively to influence it to increase their wellbeing, for example :)
Saying the opposite - that everything is in man and man has just need to start using.
but from this though blood can subscribe...already in bold :) :wink:
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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 15:16

Шалтай Балтай wrote:why do you want to change the world? :)
Alternatives to no one.
A man can change himself (which is synonymous with being alive) only changing something in the world. For example, is called creativity.
I only described the mechanisms for constraining global changes that are BEYOND the capabilities of one person with a direct impact on the world, and the mechanisms used FOR such effect. And these mechanisms is to replicate his work in large editions.
Ugly version of this visible to us in the form of the body and all sorts of media, but it does not change the fact.
In the ideal case - natural selection. The one who can win the attention of the audience - stronger influences on the world THROUGH a change in their own pictures of the world audience. He introduces the idea, which embody the other.
I just yet don't do that. At least not globally and not directly.

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 15:29

Dimas wrote:Michael_

Whether correctly I understood you, Michael, that:
1) one person as the unit, it is very difficult to change the world, even in "everyday household" part, because he, anyway, will encounter passive resistance at least their environment, as these changes do not fit into their view of the world?
2) citizen can save or change of place of residence (suburb, but also have Internet,TV,radio), or media deprivation?
3) for the active impact on the world around need to have quite a few people, or not to have?
Well, not quite. Usually there is a gap in which people have real and complete freedom of choice, without changing the global trajectory of the world. That is, that he in this gap do, the butterfly effect, for there is NO future. But because others thought it did not hold.
Another thing is that keep communication, the dispersal of personal power on a parasitic program of the society. Well, as it cleans very well described from the same Servista. Although he is strange and also wants somewhere to dump there to build their universe :)
He writes proper technique, explaining the truth to them is abstruse and the structure of consciousness is very strange describes these things is not near me.
Ie if the person is INDEPENDENT and able to do any abnormal, according to others things within the purely material opportunities without regard for the opinions of others, it will not keep the peace until he does something within the range of acceptable clearance.
This is clearly seen on a number of abnormal events caused by these or other technologies. The feedback on this forum a lot starting from mindmachine and consequences and then....
But as soon as a person tries to do something that goes beyond ALREADY known to others the result of changes in the world, it meets with resistance. So if You put some honey. diagnosis - you may not need to tell anybody :) (or minimum number of people whom it directly relates and cannot be hidden). and so on.
Ie the more you hang anchors, the stronger the impact you need.
And don't go where there is need not to communicate with close environment....
A simple example. I described in PM. One of our friend, the doctor, working on duty of the hospital "forced" the reality of taking patients with serious injuries. He spoke confidently BEFORE the ultrasound and x-rays, (for example) "hematoma of here" and so and so and tests. In reverse order would not work - would fixing device, the recording and the eyes of colleagues and the consciousness of the victim.
Working in the gap of the unknown can be very much.
You very much and just using that most of our life affects others only very weakly. Little things and meetings.
But sometimes will be a dead end. Fundamental. As for him just "the butterfly effect" - i.e., the influence of some trifles, it is possible for us seeming not so important, world events, and they have a huge mass.<

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Sep 07, 2010 15:37

Михаил_ wrote:Alternative no one.
Nude Nude
it's very sweet that you decide for everyone :lol:

suggest to read
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread519570/pg1

it is a pity that you don't speak English
well, ask to translate that one a lot of time :?

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 15:47

I freely read technical texts in English and crooked but freely conduct business correspondence when I need it.
But I don't want to read everything. It is such a thing - it is better to use :)

I do not decide for all. I'm stating a fact. People are always changing, even between incarnations. And always changes his and the world around you is mutual. Sometimes are negligible, but the world and consists of people...
It is impossible to live and not to change.
It is impossible to live and not to influence the world. Even as Taoist philosophy. the fact of being thinking and living unit in the world is having an impact on him and it's impossible to avoid.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Sep 07, 2010 16:00

how long have you got?

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Sep 07, 2010 16:06

Шалтай Балтай wrote: crooked but freely conduct business correspondence
zhzhosh

you all the way to not understand the meaning of what was going on
you all are talking about at all
I'm talking about you
it's written in the texts.
just look at who you are.

and all of you - the world is changing.....
Niu Niu.........

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Sep 07, 2010 16:18

who are you, actually, that would be something to change?
you may have gathered this world?
has the power? - show
knowledge? - show and tell where you got them. maybe you have only speculation?
monkey on the tree too, I think something might change
how many of these manyathela has it been?
where are they?
somewhere that they namenyali?
a rustling from their left.............

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Post by Dimas » Tue Sep 07, 2010 16:31

Humpty Baltay
who are you, actually, that would be something to change?
Those who the image actually... :)

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 16:37

About how raskolbas.
I say to those who are interested in the answers, not those who have personal psychological problems.And quite understandable origin. A good analyst to recommend :) ?

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Sep 07, 2010 16:44

go to the person? :)

Yes I generally not seeing eye,
imeeno because of the "manyathela" was introduced Russ concrete "superhumans"
here for example: http://www.insiderrevelations.ru/forum/ ... /topic531/

but you still - change. 8)

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 16:54

Here the fans to read apocalyptic texts and various left-wing theory can give a couple of links with funny collections of information and misinformation.
Why the misinformation? As people build for themselves some kind of "left", i.e., poorly coupled with the real world model, so much begins to enter himself, that always and in all encounters proof of correctness of the model.
We had one friend who suddenly found himself a demigod, the only person able to save the life on Earth and the planet itself. So every day she was ready to lead hundreds of new crazy stories with evidence in the real world and real events. In other words, the world resonated with its distorted model of the world in some places, and she perceived these places as evidence of his innocence.
This is on usefulness of common skepticism. Helps to survive and not to leave the roof.
Here is one funny website http://www.falsehood.me/
you can read, but do not need to clinicsa this as the truth.
What happened to its author. He dug up the unusual information that is NOT available to the public, but which, at least in part probably true. He was forced to do? He tried to explain all the inconsistencies have arisen in its model of the world based on his purely material-physical view of the world. As a result of his explanation of all wordly nonsense, at least based on some real facts.
Why did it happen? And he didn't have a choice, either to ignore (in the words of one man - "I don't believe in the supernatural, while he served in air defense constantly seen UFOs, but we have explained how to treat this. UFOs do not exist."), either fix the model of the world available to him explanations to avoid the madness. Or, well, or really crazy.
Some however can live with the soft model of the world where there are "tolerances".
And the reason described certain phenomena in another.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Sep 07, 2010 17:03

many letters
and why are you so actively participating in this thread?
can to the familiar psycho-anal-itoko to go? 8)
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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 17:05

by the way, it was amusing to see, when my friend, easy on the attunement, after reading this website very controlsa and its day three this is so good sausage.
The problem is the basic idea about what is the world.

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 17:12

"Many letters," said the man who gave links to entire forums text :)
Why participate? About it is very simple.
Imagine that a preacher in front of a crowd of people in a state of deep shock and unable to adequately assess what is happening is to immediately jump into the abyss, saying that this is the true relief will give and they will fall into a new and wonderful world.
And You stand beside and know that he lied, and many of these people You humanly pretty, and indeed something Fig is happening.
If You try to intervene?
In my case, the answer is simple, that's why I'm writing.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Sep 07, 2010 17:13

Михаил_ wrote:by the way, it was amusing to see, when my friend, easy on the attunement, after reading this website very controlsa and its day three this is so good sausage.
sausage?
it you are sick with something?
Михаил_ wrote:the Problem underlying the notion that in General such is the world.
and whose is the problem?
and Okaka world is it?

PS
sorry it seems boring..........

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Post by Dimas » Tue Sep 07, 2010 18:56

Here is one funny website http://www.falsehood.me/
yeah...if he's serious about this, then Dokhturov call! 8)

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Tue Sep 07, 2010 20:13

Dimas wrote:
Here is one funny website http://www.falsehood.me/
yeah...if he's serious about this, then Dokhturov call! 8)
You as always your hurry with conclusions.
From the moment Michael gave the link,it took about two hours,and you have managed to learn everything,to understand the site content and to draw conclusions.
Quickly you...
I can't say anything yet on the site,but I suppose that time learning will need much more.
This is just a good example of when something does not fit standard miaopinie without studying immediately sent "to the doctor".

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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 23:43

The website http://www.falsehood.me typical manipulation of consciousness. It looks simple: ask the person a question which he never thought, and immediately give the answer. And people believe!

For example, and why people have different colored eyes? Answer: because people came from different planets where the Sun is. All manipulation of finished.

Don't even waste your time on such sites, as soon as I saw the discrepancy - everything is possible to close it.

For example, the site effects halos and double rainbows are issued for some of the phenomena have not been studied.

Do not believe!

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Post by Dimas » Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:24

Andrey Kabanov
You always jump to conclusions that I jump to conclusions :lol: Yes, I am able to quickly read and analyze, and usually my conclusions are not erroneous. So after all this... you can create a website for marketing and promotion of the "smearing shit population" for the purpose of General improvement and preparation for resettlement to other planets. And who will protest and be outraged and do not want for shit pay for the money - the standard world and describe is no place for such among us, Yes..a good example of how time and work :?

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:55

Dimas wrote:Yes, I am able to quickly read and analyze, and usually my conclusions are not erroneous.
Well,then I would like to get acquainted with the results of the analysis of the received information,once the analysis carried out in record time.Preferably for each section of this site.

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Post by Dimas » Wed Sep 08, 2010 13:00

Andrey Kabanov
Come on, why are you doing this? Do you really want me to immediately distribute information on the fact that our Earth is not flat, that the missiles still fly in space, about the same double rainbow that the Moon EXISTS, etc, etc? :) No,you can be open and trusting person, but not as much!

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