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Re: Structured water

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Jan 04, 2012 23:51

к-13 wrote:I know, my grandfather in his youth focus showed(he service of this machine has been engaged in the position of electrician time) - dropped it on the asphalt, and it bounced and fought
Yes, I also saw, however, about the concrete floor - the glass several times jumped like a ball and crashed. We have loved their mechanic to weld to the steel welding bench and the alcohol to newcomers poured. :lol:

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Re: Structured water

Post by Ланцелот » Thu Jan 05, 2012 0:24

к-13 wrote:dropped it on the asphalt, and it bounced and fought
So they were hardened. Drop them. but to do a sign and pour the boiling water exploded like bombs. I remember even satires the Fuse was.

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Re: Structured water

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:03

[quote="Michael_"]. . We tried first for the test to nagraviroval in the glass ball Bogdanov did not like. Really.

Michael ,the question about the ball-it's not the one you first brought before the ISS in the balls? He is really a hedgehog. Is that the one ? So there's a crappy structure .Maybe for some targets such as astral acupuncture(just kidding) . But I did not like it. Sorry if this is not the ball.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Михаил_ » Thu Jan 05, 2012 21:47

Yeah, him and brought. it is just designed for a particular purpose, hedgehog not hedgehog - nothing to do with. Ie the work he performs of course, but see it from a practical point of view it is necessary - I do not knows.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Тяфа » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:32

Igor wrote:Dear Yip, if you don't mind I have this idea borrow.
I give! :?

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Re: Structured water

Post by Владмосква » Sat Jan 07, 2012 22:19

Michael_than bottled water is worse than water from the tap? And why is worse? It is clear that the chlorine kills all living things and boiling for disinfection is not necessary. And that's what boiling is bad?
I secretly try relatives pouring in jugs of drinking water from the filter, bypassing the kettle and boiling, but I want to know why.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Михаил_ » Sun Jan 08, 2012 15:32

well boiled Martinica such destructured and with a positive ORP (if after the cleaner electric it is negative, then after boiling it with a big plus).
If the filter is normal, the ORP does not change and there is no system of structuring, it is almost a hell, after filter, after boiling....
In General a good idea is to feel sensations. For some reason I think that boiled comes back to normal only after the cycle either through steam or through the ice, structural transformation.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Ланцелот » Sun Jan 08, 2012 16:29

Михаил_ wrote:after boiling with a big plus
And the Chinese distinguish several types of boiling. And tea brewed in different ways.
Here asked, but I didn't see the answer, so I repeat the question. Has anyone measured the ORP of the water with a negative ORP heated to 80 degrees?
In what direction has it changed?

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Re: Structured water

Post by Тяфа » Sun Jan 08, 2012 20:19

Unfortunately there is nothing to measure. But I noticed that if the water nagrevaemi up to 80, before the first gurgling well, quite boiled when the kettle already let the sauce to boil, the water taste a little different. At 80 degrees it is softer work, but AFP probably falls much.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Тяфа » Sun Jan 08, 2012 20:23

Ланцелот wrote:the way he's changing?
Михаил_ wrote:after boiling with a big plus

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Re: Structured water

Post by Ланцелот » Sun Jan 08, 2012 21:22

Тяфа wrote:but AFP probably falls much
When heating the water after Atoll and to a temperature of 60 degrees decreases ORP units 200. But still remains positive. Higher temperature measured, the instrument is a pity, I have not found in the user temperaturnyi limit Izmerenia.
Perhaps because of this, and advised to drink on an empty stomach a glass of warm water. :?

Sorry, not heated, I'm heated up to 80 degrees and made the tea, Abpmer have stuck to the glass with half the liquid. :D 60 degrees, he's already showed.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Михаил_ » Mon Jan 09, 2012 19:30

Ланцелот wrote:
Михаил_ wrote:after boiling with a big plus
And the Chinese distinguish several types of boiling. And tea brewed in different ways.
Here asked, but I didn't see the answer, so I repeat the question. Has anyone measured the ORP of the water with a negative ORP heated to 80 degrees?
In what direction has it changed?
No, but at your leisure you plan to measure. For different methods of preparation.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Ланцелот » Tue Jan 10, 2012 21:57

Before the new Year, was puzzled about what else to hang on to your water filter. I decided to try AIFIR1000. http://tiu.ru/p597096-strukturizator-bi ... -1490.html
The funny thing is that one vendor began to dissuade me from buying this cartridge, and the second called him a mineral Supplement. In addition, very little reviews about it, all the negative out of the area, did not read, but I have the opinion that this divorce.
Here I sit, holding the bandura, reminiscent of a nuclear reactor in the cut glass made by palusami from New Guinea. But carefully, with holograms and stickers. Is this thing like that can structurewith water? And maybe by structured water manufacturer understands something else? Anyone else encountered this device?
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Re: Structured water

Post by Михаил_ » Tue Jan 10, 2012 22:10

Obviously there are at least 4 ways to check:
1. view the "visual" changes - taste and so on, ie your feelings.
2. try to visualize the change of the structure. In the macro view it pretty well on the dry rest (given a reference to the matrix 137 there good examples)
3. test object and the water after him through touch. The best method, try it or water after it (which is correct) to combine with the cocoon and the cocoon look good or shitty or no, for comparison to do the same with the water before him.
4. PP3 can extend to objective data to pour this water anything growing or to be planted in her, something in the water living. By the way on this topic I have to the audience a direct practical question. It is the following (well, I'm not a biologist, technicians to a greater extent) which culture or protozoa microbes can be used as benchmarks to test the impact of environments ? ie interested in accessibility and ease of maintenance of the population in the simplest terms.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Ланцелот » Tue Jan 10, 2012 22:40

Михаил_ wrote:test object and the water after it touch
Not yet installed, I just visualized structuire! And I read about blue rays emitted by the pellets - I feel like a sucker.
Thanks for the links, will be engaged in self-education. The mind doesn't understand yet what the subject.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Михаил_ » Tue Jan 10, 2012 23:17

The view is quite edible.I think they are not much in the description lie. Well, I will try - will tell.
By the way apparently good water quality can be tested Лирой100, there is a ready method for the analysis of reactions of cells that people have swallowed :) unfortunately the device is not cheap.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Ланцелот » Wed Jan 11, 2012 22:24

May oftop, but he suffered two months. :)
Who was looking for calibration solutions?
the Calibration solution, 240 mV for ORP meters
http://www.ecounit.ru/goods_156.html
Finally delivered.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Ланцелот » Fri Jan 13, 2012 23:30

Structurer water crystals. http://preobrazenie.ucoz.ru/forum/18-1719-1
Interesting how the design and method of measurement.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Белый Камень » Sat Jan 14, 2012 21:06

Also interesting
Strukturator Panova A. F.
http://www.zovz.ru/Statii/statii_2/stat ... index.html

The Panov water structuring stand "ROSINKA"
"Rosinka" is a wooden housing with a cavity in the lower part, which is bio correction element in the form of a circular plate containing a composite mixture of organic, metallic and ceramic powders, activated in a special way during the manufacturing process.
Thanks to this device the structuring of water takes place for 30 minutes. While stirring with a spoon clockwise time structuring is reduced to 5 minutes. In the case of installation (optional) in the "Dewdrop" special matrix, the time-structuring of the water is reduced to 1.5-2 minutes without stirring. If the water is left to "Rosinka" for a longer time, then after reaching a certain level of structuring it will be just to store the properties.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Тяфа » Tue Jan 17, 2012 14:20

Antimicrobial ionizator REM-01 http://rodimin.ru/index.php?productID=116

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Re: Structured water

Post by Логик » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:03

Tomorrow January 19 - the baptism. I have a request to forumchanam who have a ORP meter measure, please, the ORP of the water on the 19th. Very interesting, will change or not.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Ланцелот » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:08

January 18, 22 and 23 hours. 19 Jan the first 3 minutes. All sucah ORP water has not changed. At the last measurement, with your fingers you can feel something like a tack or lubricity of the water in the first two it was not. ORP of tap water in baptism is not changed.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Михаил_ » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:28

frankly, I little doubted. Not sure about the water. The structure change quietly happening with a fairly minimal change in ORP. And the most different. It's just different settings.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Логик » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:36

Lancelotthanks for the measurements.

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