1. The period of adaptation.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Павел Панфилов » Tue Apr 15, 2014 21:39

[quote="K-13"]Keep listening, preferably on a regular basis, three times a day and applying additional techniques of relaxation.[/quote/]

Good evening Roman, continue to listen to the tracks twice a day mandatory day can be a day. Please advise additional relaxation technique

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 23:55

Павел Панфилов wrote:Good evening Roman, continue to listen to the tracks twice a day mandatory day can be a day. Please advise additional relaxation technique
I don't have enough data for recommendations in a particular situation.

Search the Internet, choose the one that in Your opinion the most suitable.

Can only General provisions to recall.

Morning session to listen to, without getting out of bed after waking up, making as little movements - it is possible that pockets of excitement and disappear during sleep, but upon waking the body is in a very relaxed state, which only happens during the day.

Directly before the evening session take a hot bath or shower (max hot from a range of tolerable temperature).

Turn down the volume and brightness in half (regardless of what they are there).

Breathe slowly, calmly and deeply. On the breath, count each breath the number from one hundred to one. On the exhale say to yourself relaxing as You prefer: "relax", "I'm relaxing" or "my foot (...foot...hand...hand...pelvis...torso...neck and shoulders...head) relax...get warm...heavy...melting...". This is the maximum that is possible without losing the effectiveness of the program in the future (I think You read not only about the techniques of relaxation, but also about the fact that it would be better to do without them - better now longer to listen than to stretch).

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Ларин Иван » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:30

к-13 wrote:or maybe it's just some kind of mental attitude that prevent You normally rest in the fullness of time - it often happens that such parents the children hammered, clinging to a sense of duty, guilt or a sense of responsibility for their future - no matter whether the child is doing something useful or not, but would not idle.
Similarly, at such an encounter. If you engage in lying, then sometimes relax very well to the sensation of heat in the whole body and if are under a huge dome. But if sitting to do, so much anxiety rolls (up to the thoughts "what if there's a fire, and I immediately relaxed") that instead of relaxation is enhanced by irritation.
The novel, it is better to postpone the study of this problem for later, now to continue lying? Or should through the aggravation and overcoming through?

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Post by к-13 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 14:06

Ларин Иван wrote:novel, it is better to postpone the study of this problem for later, now to continue lying? Or should through the aggravation and overcoming through?
It is a matter of personal choice. Sooner or later this problem will still have to deal with.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Змейка » Thu Apr 17, 2014 15:21

Listening to files adaptation almost 3 weeks. I prefer the Ocean and clean sounds. Used to practice meditation according to the method of Silva pretty easily been able to enter the trance state. Now, for some reason, I nothing felt. But worrying about it did not)), just listened. In the first week have showed such effects, swaying of the body (like the wave), and was something that both halves of the body sway in different ways, the warming of the palms (now no longer such a bright experience), the more often it seems that the body is moving (usually backwards), the mental stream is not stop, but try to actively not participate. Listened to 2 times a day, in the evening listened to the end, not falling asleep. Well, something like that, with adaptation))

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Post by к-13 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 15:44

Змейка wrote:used to practice meditation according to the method of Silva pretty easily been able to enter the trance state.
I would like to clarify - "meditation method Silva" is to work with their drives or self-study with the score?

It is strange that there are no results... the former silvova they are usually much better than that of untrained (though these first session are much brighter).

And effects from listening to a strange... Problem with the corpus callosum of the brain no? The symptoms are similar, I had this already. One of the participants out of the forum complained of similar symptoms (the body during the session seemed to split into 2 independent parts), and after listening had difficulties with spatial vision (for example, could not visually determine the distance to the subject, because enough hands air past that wanted to take) - completed survey revealed some tumor in its infancy, which was easily removed with medication. The doctors said that it is very fortunate that you noticed so early (a unique case), otherwise the consequences would have been disastrous and likely would require surgery.

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Post by Змейка » Thu Apr 17, 2014 16:07

I worked with the discs, about a couple of months, then abandoned. Well, I would not say that there are no results, they just modestly)) And about the split...Maybe I'm too focused on this, because I tested only once and for a couple seconds, then the body again became a single. And problems with the brain like no))

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Павел Панфилов » Fri Apr 18, 2014 18:55

Good afternoon, today is day 18 of my training , continue listening to the mandatory morning and evening, twice a day, it turns out to listen to a track day. Noticed, motivation, on the day of the audition, is directly proportional to the level of fatigue, the higher, the more the desire to wear headphones. Not to say that the afternoon session, my energy fully charges the battery, but the feeling improved a bit, the lethargy disappears. The evening session is a sleeping pill, put on headphones and here it is, the slumber, the last three days even fall asleep, woke up, and already another track. In the morning, as well fun, you catch yourself thinking, yay another 20 minutes of sleep, but it should be noted that I woke up last time, without an alarm clock. Another point of euphoria that I experienced the first few days I now do not feel sorry. Overall feeling: slight drowsiness, heaviness in the arms and some in legs, slow breathing state of relaxation. But it is a very fragile substance, the slightest rustle, and ........

Roman, my next steps, continued or we pass to the next stage?

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Post by к-13 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 20:26

Павел Панфилов wrote:novel, my next steps, continued or we pass to the next stage?
Listen until potyazhelela hand and sleep do not grow in the weightlessness of the body while maintaining the wakeful state of consciousness. Suggest again to carefully read the material on the links received in the personal message entry in the ranks of the participants of the workshop.
Павел Панфилов wrote:Evening session is a sleeping pill, put on headphones and here it is, the slumber, the last three days even fall asleep, woke up, and already another track
Re-read the description of the first stage, you'll understand where nedochital the first time. And in the workshop I once wrote.

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Post by к-13 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 20:33

Змейка wrote:I worked with drives, about a couple of months, then abandoned.
Then it is clear. They've got their chips, You just don't have voice guidance, the brain is lazy to relax now just under the sound when before it was persuaded with a smile. But You remember the sequence - use it to increase performance.
Змейка wrote:And problems with the brain like no))
And someone talked about the problems with brains? The corpus callosum is a conduit between the right and left hemispheres, they do not think))) anyway, if things like that will be hard to repeat, it is better to pass the examination.

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Post by Змейка » Sat Apr 19, 2014 0:56

Well, thanks for the comment. Continue.

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Post by ШумелкаМышь » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:10

Good day! Continue to do twice a day +ALTARIA. Subjective relaxation was better, but this state is quite vague. Should put attention on any part of the body, such as the ease disappears once again felt the heaviness and warmth. Session seems so very short. Like that's seemed the result of a sudden silence. After 5-10 minutes try to stay in the same state of rasslablennost, sometimes it works.

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Post by к-13 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 15:23

The condition is still unstable, so paying attention to some part of the body leads to activation. Have to work out that the result was more stable (You just will be difficult to set the anchor in this situation - when you try to fill it to break and eventually the resource anchor is not calm, and his breakdown).

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Post by Джуди » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:32

ШумелкаМышь wrote:Subjective relaxation was better, but this state is quite vague. Should put attention on any part of the body, such as the ease disappears once again felt the heaviness and warmth.
Good day!
Listen to 27 day. My feelings and results described CamelCase :) Read review K-13, continue to work)))

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Павел Панфилов » Thu Apr 24, 2014 0:09

Hello everyone, today is day 23, desire is not lost, even though I dosei pores do not experience full weightlessness, but a burst of energy and a good dream signs my motivation. The novel issue of state of weightlessness, it is to be taken literally, to the entire body? I don't feel hands, feet, and perhaps all. To sleep and not fail. We can proceed to the second stage or even earlier?

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Post by к-13 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:01

Relaxed only the hands and feet. The rest isn't. If You are personally comfortable with this option may be transferred to the second stage. But I would advise to develop a state of weightlessness on the rest of the body.

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Post by АЛАИС » Thu Apr 24, 2014 13:19

or maybe it's just some kind of mental attitude that prevent You normally rest in the fullness of time - it often happens that such parents the children hammered, clinging to a sense of duty, guilt or a sense of responsibility for their future - no matter whether the child is doing something useful or not, but would not idle.
Good day,Roman.Thanks for the clarification.Yeah,I think it really is,always trying to do several things at once. :lol: Possible by the body and mind.And then complain that can't rest.The last session was held without bad thoughts,focused attention on the sound,breathing or flashes of light.Sometimes there was a feeling...not even flight,as if floating in space.Dreams amazing in its reality and fantastic content.I never remember dreams,thought that never see them.

If you can give a reference for the next stage.Thank You very much. :o

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Post by Джуди » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:32

I want to share the feelings! This morning I experienced the feeling of flying, of weightlessness, not even in time ringing for the alarm is not "pulled" me out of it.
A little earlier (few days ago), having no further developments in the state from classes, I decided to take Your advice (to someone), a novel, and in the evening session used the "melody" of mindmachine (which lasts for longer, with alpha "waves"), morning - from the sent list; last night and this morning added the brightness in the glasses.
What was the rush! :)
And, by the way, after the start of my experiment with sessions of mindmachine dreams began to dream very vivid, scenes from a past life. Very interesting!

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Post by к-13 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 14:12

АЛАИС wrote:If you can give a reference for the next stage.
Sent.
Джуди wrote:I want to share the feelings! This morning I experienced the feeling of flying, of weightlessness, not even in time ringing for the alarm is not "pulled" me out of it.
A little earlier (few days ago), having no further developments in the state from classes, I decided to take Your advice (to someone), a novel, and in the evening session used the "melody" of mindmachine (which lasts for longer, with alpha "waves"), morning - from the sent list; last night and this morning added the brightness in the glasses.
What was the rush! :)
Well, it remains to build on the success and we can move on. I think three days will be enough (without emotions).
АЛАИС wrote:Dreams amazing in its reality and fantastic content.I never remember dreams,thought that never see them.
Джуди wrote:And, by the way, after the start of my experiment with sessions of mindmachine dreams began to dream very vivid, scenes from a past life. Very interesting!
The brain optimizes the work with the alpha, so the dreams are better remembered. They are always interesting, bright, rich and long, just on awakening, they immediately forgotten, so as not to divert resources for work in the Wake (mainly on misdemeano) - remain in memory only the resonance from the not always. Now there is a reserve power and the brain makes more memories of dreams.

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Post by Джуди » Fri Apr 25, 2014 14:16

к-13 wrote:Well, it remains to build on the success and we can move on. I think three days will be enough (without emotions).
emotions - they are then, and during - just a quiet delight in the state in which you are.

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Post by АЛАИС » Fri Apr 25, 2014 15:14

Good afternoon.
Downloaded the files the second stage.The evening included a session on Alpha1.The effect was very unexpected - I had the feeling that the whole body were filled with lead.Internally resisted,trying to relax.Failed.Very funny feeling the gravity pulling down the panic.Moreover, the muscles do not tense,but as if instead of blood - lead and somewhere fail under the weight,as if drowning.
The morning session included an ALPHA2.From somewhere the thought came the sound!!! The evening was too loud.Diminished to a minimum,so it was barely audible.It is already easier.Only not listening,fell asleep. :cry:

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Post by ШумелкаМышь » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:11

Good day! Continue to do, but the stability condition has not yet been achieved. While still vague. But there was another interesting effect (not during sessions), I don't know how to describe it. Sometimes (rarely) appears as if auditory disorientation. For example, eating in the car on the radio starts advertising (some text on the background music), at some point, I'm starting to think that the background music is separate, not from the speakers, I automatically start looking for this "new" sound source, and a few seconds find it "on the spot". Wrote a very messy, sorry. Everything else is still.

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Post by к-13 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:59

ALAISI sent the link to the other topic for discussion :oops: .

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Post by к-13 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:33

CamelCasenothing strange, the brain reacts to used in advertising sound stimulation in the alpha range - it is now very sensitive to what he is doing. PR managei use all opportunities to attract customers - one NLP offers a whole Arsenal of hidden and subthreshold suggestion, subliminal leverage direct installation from authoritative people, and most importantly, the activation of the pleasure centers through media tricks:: nice pictures and sounds in the background, brightness correction and frequency modulation easy sound and brightness on the "endorphin" frequencies... Just that you learn to gauge the portion of involved against You above. But I would advise you to record in car USB flash drive/disk with good music (or to switch the wave at the beginning of the advertising) and not risk driving.

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Post by Джуди » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:50

Good morning!
The effect of "flight" during a session is stable, only once earlier starts, later when.
Time to move on to the next stage?

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