About the Creator, the Universe, and about us......

[Ольга Лагуза]

Who brought this truth? Specifically? Who is it? Names?

Instead of understanding, or constructive confrontation You move on to the flood.

[Ира]

Bold on and bold and each topic ends with a high-level insult of interlocutors and the dissolution of self-worth for a couple of months. Spring.

On topic - nothing new. Nothing! If you want the new to - read study of NASA or the same reports our astronauts with the World. "from earth we have looked into everything..."

[Смелый]

Instead of understanding, or constructive confrontation You move on the flood

All as always! Instead of the normal dialogue, run over idiots!

Okay, let's continue!

Igor, still a question for you. Yesterday we found out that the model of the Universe in the Big Bang, no reasonable component. And the name of the model of the Universe, the "BIG BANG" does not fully comply with all overall, taken together, the processes taking place there. And so, the very name "Big Bang" at its core, is random.

But yesterday, I deliberately did not touch another side of the coin.

Scientists more or less modeled. How enable and support knowledge and the ability to think, analyze, fantasize, and so on. But that still blew up, didn't find anything? Have at least some understanding of what was there before the explosion?

[мимоходом]

Have at least some understanding of what was there before the explosion?

Well, according to this theory, before the explosion there was nothing - no space, no time. Since time is formed by the expansion of space - it is also a funnel, like gravity.

[Смелый]

Have at least some understanding of what was there before the explosion?

Well, according to this theory, before the explosion there was nothing - no space, no time. Since time is formed by the expansion of space - it is also a funnel, like gravity.

That is, there was nothing. Or emptiness or space. Here, nothing! Then it WAS NOTHING blew up, and there was EVERYTHING! It's a good theory! Cool! And what would all the pundits this side did not think, and that's why pushed to the forefront of the Big Bang model. With noise, fanfare and leaving free space for reasoning. Let them dig in the Big Bang, looking for missing details, and in the direction of NOTHING, let does not climb. And what there to look? There was nothing over there. And most importantly, the Mind crawls somewhere. At the same time tomanipulate with time before the Big Bang. Declare that from the time of the explosion was 6 billion years, and then slowly we will move in the direction of increasing the period, explaining that the improvement of scientific and technical base. That joy is for these pioneers of the new terms.

In General, and restless minds will do, and We are calmer!

Igor, this logic has a right to exist?

[мимоходом]

However, it is not necessary to dwell on the Big Bang theory. Better to binge-watch the same name - he's funny.

And this theory almost a century. And over the past century, there have been very many other theories, such as string theory and its modifications. The theory of parallel universes. The theory of two-dimensional holographic universe, which unpacks the information. And so on, dozens of theories, there is even a special profession "physicist", the essence of which is to invent the most unimaginable... And to think that this is such a bad idea TBV and lied to all is just tune in the negative. It is less comfortable than no tune ))

But in any case, while SBM is confirmed by all the observed facts - conflicting facts yet. Another thing is that most SBM is a special case of a more General theory.

And their understanding, their model be - why not. It's almost a theoretical physicist will succeed ))
Why do planets and stars do not move along the rails. It's very romantic and it is a normal theory

[Смелый]

And his understanding, his model to develop - why not. It's almost a theoretical physicist will succeed ))
Why do planets and stars do not move along the rails. It's very romantic and it is a normal theory

Igor, read carefully what I stated in the last post. Leave the rails alone. In my last post, with logic, okay? You tell me about the logic in my reasoning. The rest later!

[мимоходом]

Logic is a good thing. But this is only half and the other half is perception. Different perceptions give rise to different logics, all of which is correct.

Actually the issue is only perception. May be the perception that someone out there is wrong or cheating. Maybe a more General perception which includes all the logic and allows us to understand each

[Смелый]

the Logic is a good thing. But this is only half and the other half is perception. Different perceptions give rise to different logics, all of which is correct.

How you love to confuse! Well! Take only half! Logical! Everything is logical? In this second half, which is logical?

[мимоходом]

Yes, of course, all the logic we have right to exist ))) But not all are complete, and are private. Full logic unites all points of view, and does not oppose them. That is a complete logic - this is where rights and Brave and scientists

[Смелый]

Full logic unites all points of view, and does not oppose them. That is a complete logic - this is where rights and Brave and scientists

You told me specifically in my above post.

That is, there was nothing. Or emptiness or space. Here, nothing! Then it WAS NOTHING blew up, and there was EVERYTHING! It's a good theory! Cool! And what would all the pundits this side did not think, and that's why pushed to the forefront of the Big Bang model. With noise, fanfare and leaving free space for reasoning. Let them dig in the Big Bang, looking for missing details, and in the direction of NOTHING, let does not climb. And what there to look? There was nothing over there. And most importantly, the Mind crawls somewhere. At the same time tomanipulate with time before the Big Bang. Declare that from the time of the explosion was 6 billion years, and then slowly we will move in the direction of increasing the period, explaining that the improvement of scientific and technical base. That joy is for these pioneers of the new terms.

In General, and restless minds will do, and We are calmer!

Here is the line specifically! Exactly on these lines. It is on these lines, the logic is present?

[мимоходом]

Of course there is. If I say otherwise you will be offended and will consider me an enemy. And I need it )))
You want to hear a specific answer, others do not expect.

[Смелый]

If I say otherwise you will be offended and will consider me an enemy.

Igor, you are as nothing in the Masonic Lodge made up! What if I told you that whatever your response, even negative, I will not be offended, then you tell the truth that there is no logic?

You want to hear a specific answer, others do not expect.

Yes, it is advisable to hear a particular answer without any reservations. My reasoning logical? Yes or no!

I don't buy the answers in a friendly or hostile relations. If you do not want to answer directly, you just let me know and I'll stop.

As further arguments you will prefer not to answer. But you don't have to do it!

[мимоходом]

Well, I just have a bit different logic.

Your is - that there is a Creator who created everything. There is a consciousness that develop. Is the Force that prevents them to do, all the spoils, harms, misconceptions slips, the money is not there and stuff... gives Scientists the power to believe that everything exploded that scientists misunderstand...
In principle, the same trio, just accept it.

My logic is different, based on another perception of the Trinity. And this logic is upside down relative to yours, inverted, mirrored. I write it, but it would be a contradiction. In my logic your Primary matter (and this is NOT energy, NOT information) it singles out two poles: the pole of energy, matter, substance, energy, chaos, devastating vector acting according to the laws of thermodynamics, tending to uniformity, and equilibrium. And the second pole - information, structure, creative, unmanifested, which of energy sculpts seal (works), breaking the equilibrium.
And there's the way the combination of people. In which both poles. Man himself the hero and the enemy blends these poles as he wants and from the mixture obtained accordingly is obtained or that the perception or logic.

And why is my logic SLR... do You think that in itself is energy (matter) is reasonable and impose unknown additional force that is destroying her. And in my logic energy-matter on the contrary tends to pure chaos, which additional force is organized, and the first again committed organization, that is, the structure to destroy. The first force - mother, the second father. And the Creator is the man himself, as one of the forms.

[Смелый]

And why is my logic SLR...

You do not mirror the logic. You have the logic of casuist.

Well, okay. There is a forum where people freely share their opinion. I have no complaints and thanks for the useful debate. For me it was really helpful.

Now think what to do next.

[Смелый]

Okay!
Good night and sweet dreams!
The topic is closed.
Good luck!

[мимоходом]

Well... Just one contradiction and just give up... And suddenly your picture of the world is more correct ))) really Bring it to its logical conclusion, where no conflict would arise

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[Смелый]

Still thinking, I decided to continue. My previous decision to suspend was made on topic my understanding based on the activity of some and silence others.

But judging by the fact that after my previous post, page theme was attended by about a hundred people, it becomes clear that the target is still there. For them I continue. But first, some digression. To have shown here, your supposedly brilliant mind.

Igor, at some stage, you behaved with dignity, for which, once again, thank you! But then, you turned on the logic of casuist. All my further narrative, then I'm in a single person, from the face FORCE THAT gave BIRTH to US and that, most of us just betrayed. And thoughts and actions.

But you, Igor went on. Accused me that I persevere in the face of difficulties. And throwed imperfection and not logic at all what I described above. Unproven, just like that, in confirmation of their importance and excessive genius. So behave worms, pinned with a needle to the plane. Pinned, can't move, but proudly raises his head and something broadcasts.

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[Смелый]

So, previously I explained my understanding of the system of the Universe, which we suggested scientific minds. (In fact, behind them, or above them a Kind of Powerful Unmanifest in our world, Force). I started to outline my vision, but in parallel was considered and proposed to us by scientists version, greatly simplifying to the vocabulary of Everyman and slightly, ostensibly doubting. You need to do otherwise. This. Take official theory.

When the universe was somehow unclear whether a dense substance, whether still something. SINGULAR STATE! So they condition called. But at the same time, SCIENTISTS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT a SINGULAR STATE!

Don't believe? Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia. "the problem of the existence of cosmological singularity is one of the most serious problems of physical cosmology. The fact that none of our information about what happened after the Big Bang, can't give us any information about what happened before."
The results of our observations confirm the hypothesis that the universe originated in a point in time. However, the beginning of creation, the singularity, is not subject to any known laws of physics.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0 ... 1%82%D1%8C

Next, great scholars, brilliant scientists crinkled lobiki us broadcast the fact that the SINGULARITY was blown up, all flew in different directions, then the beginning as it is to concentrate, to organize, to condense and so on. The galaxies, systems, planets, you and me.

Draw your attention to some serious, very serious things.

1) Full knowledge of what happened before the alleged Big Bang. And if don't know then better keep quiet. Better still, take the attention away. Therefore, we suggested the following fact.

2) The Big Bang. This means that all previous (the singularity), just not significantly. So it blew up. But that would not puzzled and are not digging where there is nothing for us to do,

3) Suggested us a beautiful theory of the Universe. Create particles, molecules, dust, nebula, all going, link grows and develops. Here think, look at the beautiful stars, dream big! Everything is fine! Because the universe is growing and expanding. But since were thrown to the theory that the Explosion occurred at a CERTAIN POINT and then the universe expands, the further thrown, supposedly logical conclusion.

4) someday, the EXTENSION will END AND BEGIN AGAIN, stretching it BACK TO the starting POINT!

5) And then again Blast and so on.

Thus, from these five points, I move further on.<

[Смелый]

Consider the paragraph no.1.

Pay attention to that. Purely Philistine language. don't know what it was, what it was and it makes no sense to pay attention to it, so go ahead!

The flow of reasoning several steps.

a) Before the Explosion

b) the Explosion

C) the Creation of the Universe after the explosion. We see that the most of silence stage a)

That is, the first stage. I call it the GREAT HOAX!

But it happened in our time.

Let's go to another GREAT HOAX which occurred more than two thousand years ago.

Jesus Christ!

General picture.

God sent to Earth his son, that he would be sacrificing himself, atoned for the sins of mankind. Here such here the Great God! His son did not regret!

Consider the stages.

a) Jesus Christ leads his preaching, teaching students, feeding the needy, shows miracles, creates the doctrine.

b) Jesus Christ betrayed and crucified on the cross. His death, he saves mankind from their sins and thus saves him from imminent death;

C) Jesus Christ is resurrected. The people rejoice. And miraculously, the risen Jesus Christ, where it disappears.

Mind you, here we know nothing about the stage in), third stage.

That is, if the stories about the Big Bang, we know nothing about the first stage, we know nothing about the third stage. Familiar handwriting. Here and there, on one stage, almost complete silence.

When I see another business project, I always share it back to the original settings and end, form one of the two blocks, and how would I put on the overhead support. Make the bridge business project. If the beginning and the further parameters are put clearly and are lying on two supports continue to work.

Regarding these two projects. Of the three stages, more or less, traced only two. Third somewhere in the fog and the support for him there. How can you put on such a bridge the train?

Exaggerating?

Well, why, then, this resurrected Jesus Christ, did not continue to perform miracles, to teach students in greater numbers to improve their teaching. But it is curious the following:

1) Teacher where it was removed

2) Further knowledge in mass suffered by other people who were not even disciples of Jesus.

3) How exactly these people explain what Jesus preached, we can only guess

4) Thus it is obvious that Jesus is not stuck in his teaching fuses/protection from distortion.

In this respect, the novel was much forethought.

1) Roma protection put

2) Roma did a self-developing system, which is constantly improving itself and helps the followers in turn improve itself. In that time, according to the Precepts of Jesus/of Lenin, we should just teach that we have to offer, and even to bow.

3) Roma in their system, and insert the fuse, prohibiting adept to harm another person. Jesus, this fuse is not inserted. How many people have irecovery in defense of this true doctrine, now do not count. Maybe that's why he's quiet and run away from sin?

My offer!

To consider the true teachings of "project arbiter" of the Novel (K-13), and the teachings of Jesus, to leave alone. If they are not reasonable. In connection with this.

Roman, show the community your birthday or the birthday of the project as it was conceived thee.

We consider it as our Easter. We come this day to you in the village and is not dependent on the weather and time of year, will dance, in your horn, you'll be tempering or purging cakes and so on. What the incumbent actually live and so, if anything is unclear, you can always ask questions to the Creator doctrine.

And there....., who will you ask? And who will be responsible?<

[мимоходом]

What a good idea. At the turn of the new er need a new doctrine )))

And new wonders!

[мимоходом]

not Full knowledge of what happened before the alleged Big Bang. And if don't know then better keep quiet.

Why is complete ignorance... just empty - nothing ))) the Taoists called it Tao. The highest degree of the ideal is its absence.

[Смелый]

why is complete ignorance...

Igor, well, what are you framed?

Okay then! There is a quote. What's in a name? Our Nicknames on the forum, have information. When did you come up with a Nickname and called himself as "of mimohodom", you probably meant the following. You as a casual passer-by, walking down the street and suddenly see an event that you organized, the relationship to it are not, but being an impartial observer from the side, soberly and correctly assess the situation and make the right conclusions. The logic is.

Now, as it looks from the outside, at least in my eyes. You walk down the street and have no purpose. So, loitering! See some event and your wonderful mind begins to evaluate and weigh. Gymnastics for the mind. But this mental kaleidoscope leads you nowhere. You're everywhere and nowhere. As you didn't have goals to go somewhere, so you make do with other people's Affairs. Thus, you always go past your goal. You can't see it and don't need it you.

From now on, your Nickname for me on the forum - "MIMOZINE!"



In General, a good trio of opponents. The empty shell, razor and Mimiai.<

[мимоходом]

And how to breathe... How to breathe... (C)

More recently, in the beginning of the topic, I was a respected man, acting consultant, thinking about the fate of the universes. After all, it's something needs to be occupied by a real man, to lie on the couch and ponder - what was before everything exploded.

But then fate turned to me loin. Believing the promise that the author will not be offended and yielding to his entreaties to voice my opinion - an opinion voiced, and the author was offended. Actually it was immediately clear )))

And here I monoculi, and the author of surrounded by enemies and windbags. How hard is it to live

[Смелый]

To summarize the arguments about the history of Jesus Christ. I have a version, as it really is, but because it's unproven version, I leave it to yourself.

And you all ask such a simple question.

WHY? WHY IS IT INVENTED?

As expected the response to be expected would be long and hardly wait, then I am for you and will answer.

Hoax. Invented in order to denigrate a Higher Power, or as It is called - GOD!

After all, he who in this story looks like. A notorious sadist and a madman. He sent his son to be martyred on the cross, supposedly for the sake of the salvation of mankind mired in sin.

Would you kill your son, for the salvation of the neighbor and an alcoholic and flagellant from next door? I no! I'm sure you are too! So what are we this heartless God slips?

This hoax predominante that would tarnish a superior reasoning Power (Yes, if Higher Intelligent Forces would have to save humanity from the alleged sins, it is only a finger click and we all like newborn babies), making God mad and synoubiytsa. And we morons believe in it and thus, a God insulted. And all you need. To believe in Its rationality (in the Highest Reasonable Force) and to clear his Mind from slander.

On the other hand, there is a reason, in the name of Faith, to plunder and to kill those who don't believe in it, few believe, as well as other complexion, just because a neighbor is much the same and I want to, but can not and so on.

It's very simple!