This forum destroys faith in God!

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It is you, probably, from a sense of self-pity think that due to excessive CDA.

I think at random, repeated the words of others - smarter and become themselves added credibility?
Christian rhetoric about the "flock of Christ" are repulsive to any free man, thinking independently. Sheep in the herd, of great respect, yet no one raises.

what About "Punisher" you say?

You can not read? I clearly wrote - Jehovah-Savaof - the Jewish God. As to Jesus, he is not God, but the son of God. And obviously, he never knew his father Jehovah Saveoff calls. Read carefully your Bible, everything is written.
Read the Torah, aka the five Books of Moses. There is clearly written about the Punisher, who first intimidate to complete idiocy of Abraham, bringing it to readiness to kill his son. Only after making sure that the fear of Abraham is ready to do the most unnatural act, Jehovah, Savaof decided to make him his "chosen" people.

Yet the story of job to remember.

And how do you like the idea of "original sin" ? Also very humane?

The entire old Testament is imbued with threats to the Jewish God - turn away from me - punish, punish. Fear is the only method of controlling this "God".

By the way, Stalin is the greatest tyrants of the 20th century was half-educated seminarian. I've been thinking, why uneducated foreigner from a mountain village soared so high. As he came up and took hold of our system of government. And suddenly, one day, I ocenila! He's just skopiroval control method of the Bible. Only the place of the Jewish God Jehovah of hosts has set itself. Most importantly your knowledge of how to manage the people he received in Seminary. And successfully implemented it in practice!
Blood when it flowed not less than described in the Bible.

Can you give to cut your finger for your sister, or brother, or mother, or friend, for any relative?

And you can do without the stupid, binary thinking -" either that or this"? I somehow prefer and your limbs to save and see their relatives alive and well.
I understand that the Bible imposes, it is this type of thinking and this is another reason not to love her, and her followers.

And the "Punisher" came into the world and said...

You read ever learn? Open your eyes and see that the Punisher is the Jewish God Jehovah-Savaof. As to Jesus something about him I wrote above. The Bible says that he was the son of God. You do not see the difference? And I doubt that he was the son of the Jewish God.<

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When I learned about the children's camps, I realized - God is dead.

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to believe in God is also silly. How can you believe in something that never saw.

Once a famous surgeon, the author of a textbook guide purulent surgery Tashkent Archbishop Luka Voyno-Yasenetsky on one of the atheist debates asked the same question. To which he replied with a question: "And you believe that a person has a mind?" And receiving an affirmative answer, continued: "many times I prvodil craniotomy and exposing the skull, the MIND THERE has EVER SEEN!"

Igor, have you seen the mind? So, is not it?!

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the Christian rhetoric about "the fold" are repulsive to any free man, thinking independently.

Do not forget that Christ is speaking about being the herd, preached to ordinary villagers, for whom the image of shepherd and flock is more understandable than for sulemenova citizen. The shepherd is first and foremost a defender of the flock, who cares about all that survived. The shepherd leads on the best pasture, where a lot of food, goes to water cure, in the General, all ways anticipates the needs of the herd. Therefore, the parable of the Shepherd and the herd is not humiliating for an ancient Israelite (Israel was one of the most freedom-loving peoples of antiquity). Christ says He is the protector of all who believe in Him, a caring Father, doing all that is necessary for "herd", and even giving them His life. Remember: "I am the good Shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep...".

Therefore, the fold is a figure of speech that it is necessary to correctly understand. Nowadays, the expression "flock of sheep" humiliating, but it was not so during the time of preaching the Gospel. IT IS NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY!

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as to Jesus, he is not God, but the son of God.

And what, the son of man is not a person? Be consistent!

Jehovah, or rather, Yahweh means He WHO IS. From this word comes the adjective Am. Remember, when Jesus Christ came to arrest by the temple guards in the garden of Gethsemane, he was asked if He was Jesus of Nazareth? On what He answered Me (in Slavonic, I Am, in Hebrew Yahweh (Jehovah)). Then the armed guards stepped back and fell prostrate before the Sacred Name.(See the gospel of Inanna Chapter 18 verses 3-6) that Christ Is Jehovah. He Himself said it. Read and see for yourself.

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Alexander the great!

And I join!

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and anyway,who knows--who owns the name "Saul"? it's citizens,the Apostle Paul,before he was asked, "Saul,Saul,why you persecute Me?" subject to achumet...there are people,on the one hand declaring their anti-Christianity and Belief in Own Forces and Possibilities,on the other suspiciously activated (in the hope that they will be calm)before the Great Feasts of the Christian Church.and,that is symptomatic before the Catholic Christmas(25 December)here on the forum has been quiet-drought-quiet-and-other-grace .with the same success it was possible to create a thread in the forum bodybuilders...m-m-m-m ... Oh! "French press destroys faith in God!!!"...wow... "Pocitace,for the Kingdom of heaven"...a paragraph,and then the curtain as far as I remember the statement of A. Patrushev:"I(A. Patrushev)spirituality is not doing."the answer first hand...nerves from the alpha session.
further,according to the text."Jehovah"--the later name of God.at the beginning of the Tanakh(old Testament Hebrew),is the word "Elohim."Theosophists and other esoteric happily translate this as "Gods",but this is the first omen later manifested the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity
the word "Elohim" means "catching up"(one of the values).God a couple of thousand years trying to understand--what drives a man granted Them the same freedom of will.and in the end He realized ask "how?"the answer is simple:"teach materiel and read the original sources"and not "the Bolshevik newspaper"

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Read carefully your Bible, everything is written.

well, I read carefully.let's get started with quotes desirable.

you Can still the story of job to remember.

Oh! wow!and let her remember the oldest,probably written by the tribes who lived in Palestine before the Semites,the book.I like it very much.please tell us about the book of job I hope that you end up read pleased?what about it,do you think?

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Not forget that Christ is speaking about being the herd, preached to ordinary villagers,

Don't forget that we are no longer peasants, and priests and their Yes-men all sing about a herd...
Except for the shepherd guarding the flock, there are still those who cut and those who scores of sheep for meat. After all, sheep grow not out of love for the sheep, but in order to use them as a source of wool and meat!
To understand it is not necessary?

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as to Jesus, he is not God, but the son of God.

And what, the son of man is not a person? Be consistent!

And what, the son of General automatically becomes a General? Jesus was the one who created the heavens and the earth... then and in fiction project...

Asked if He was Jesus of Nazareth? On what He answered Me (in Slavonic, I Am, in Hebrew Yahweh (Jehovah)). Then the armed guards stepped back and fell prostrate before the Sacred Name.(See the gospel of Inanna Chapter 18 verses 3-6)

Yes you can all ascribe in hindsight Only...
the gospel is written in Greek. And Jesus spoke aromashka. So your sophistry here is not the channel.

So that Christ Is Jehovah.

You have the Jews say...

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Read carefully your Bible, everything is written.

well, I read carefully.let's get started with quotes desirable.

First, this phrase was not addressed to you. Secondly, it was used in a different context. Want to discuss the Bible, please create a separate topic. If I would be interested, I'll unsubscribe...

you Can still the story of job to remember.

Oh! wow!and let her remember the oldest,probably written by the tribes who lived in Palestine before the Semites,the book.I like it very much.please tell us about the book of job I hope that you end up read pleased?about
what is it,what do you think?

Who, she wrote, it is possible to argue long, but all unproven. And you write here - probably.So I do not know. In this case, keep your unsubstantiated allegations to yourself.

Now a brief retelling of the story of job:
There once was a job. Job feared God. And it is written there was God-fearing. People are afraid of psychopaths, thieves, murderers, etc. is Good, people are not afraid!
Stupid but job thought that if he will abide by the rules declared to be God, then everything will be fine and God will not touch him. There it was! The rules of the game God is changing during the game. Known shulerskih reception.
I went to God and Satan and God decided to boast (small human failing) him. They say, look like job's scared of me. What Satan said - you do him something bad, look like job then sing.
Well, the voice of Satan at the weight of God! God consistently deprived of job, property, family, health.
The job of such an experiment could not resist and decided to get even with God (to sue him in court!).
Like, I've obeyed your rules, for which I have such misfortune? I (job) have kept thy rules, and God you do not comply! (Read: you're God is a liar and a cheat, changing the rules during the game!)
God was the self-styled lawyers, and began to explain to job that God did everything according to the rules.
Here God intervened in the process, deciding that the self-styled incorrectly understand the policy of God, lawyers, it is not necessary and the court, he will decide himself according to his will!
Hearing the voice of God, in the end, bullying, job timidly pursed his ears, tail and paws, fearing that he would again not got.
Seeing that job has finally lost the will to resist God "forgave him" (for what, for what job followed the rules that God has given?).
And with lawyers, God decided Navara, telling them to make sacrifices in the temple.
Job, God restored all that he took, with interest (after all, the Jewish God!).
The moral of the story is:
God does not adhere to the rules that forces you to follow people! You sinful or righteous, you can always come down the wrath of God. If you resist, it will be even worse... Fear and hope that when it comes to you, God will have a good mood and he will save you.
God forbid, worship that God!<

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I think the debate on this subject pointless. In my opinion still remain unconvinced. On the other hand each of us at the end of life's journey will be a chance to find out who was right and who not
Logik
How do You think God is, or...? maybe the qualities that we attributed to him is just our quality that we can understand and see in ourselves? It is something incomprehensible...(as considered).
About the modern Church as a social. Institute I absolutely agree, it has long become a political tool. But the faith and the Church IMHO two very different things (unfortunately).
hmm..interesting:
"Jewish tradition holds that the language of the Torah — Hebrew — reflects the spiritual properties of concepts and objects. The traditional view is that Gematria or numerical value of the Hebrew words is a way of expressing the laws of the universe — related objects are of equal numerical value.
The sum of the letters in the word "Elohim" (אלהים) is equal to 1+30+5+10+40=86. The sum of the letters in the word "Nature" (Hebrew. הטבע, ha-Teva), which means all of Creation, is the same also 5+9+2+70=86. Thus, the principle of "Elohim in Gematria ha-Teva (Nature)" means that for the Elohim and Nature is one and the same spiritual object and its content depends on the perception of the world."
(Wikipedia)

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Except for the shepherd guarding the flock, there are still those who cut and those who scores of sheep for meat.

In the gospel tells the parable, allegory. It is not necessary so literally to understand about sheep and shepherds. Says about the fatherly love of God for His people. Not worth talking about in the utmost corners, this is not the point of the parable! Think wider, Logician! Or maybe you propose to prepisati the gospel?!

And what, son of a General automatically becomes a General? Jesus was the one who created the heavens and the earth... then and in fiction project...

The son of the General becomes a General automatically, BUT IT AUTOMATICALLY, FROM the moment of CONCEPTION BECOMES a HUMAN, because humanity is the nature of this man. And the title here neprichem! God - a Being possessing a divine nature, it is also not the title, but the very essence of God. Do not confuse warm and soft!
However, the comparison with the General, still be counted in your favor, as the General it is not a simple man, so Christ, subconsciously perceive you as a high Person. So all is not lost.

So your sophistry here is not the channel.

Think about it, here comes a crowd of adults armed, strongly-minded people. It is not the children, and even simple civilians to pieces of rebar! It guards, soldiers trained, when necessary, to kill. And suddenly, after the words of Christ, they fall down. Why, what did they hear?! Or maybe they were afraid of a handful of Galilean fishermen some scared, and quickly surrendered to the apostles? So no, the arrest of Jesus took place, so nebylo surrender. Moreover, it is said that all the disciples except Inanna, which then was just a young boy fled. What fabrications retroactively? Logik! Turn on the logic!

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Logik
issues those not ALL set through a personal message.forum rules not allowed to respond to others on other people's "issues".
I said "probably",so what? you need the exact date of writing?let us pray its God and he will tell you.
understand known shulerskih reception is to authoritatively argue and explain ,say.about the Bible,those who just never opened .this explains your sob"the question is not you",it is clear that not me....
the book of job,the reflection in the Bible of the ancient,pre-biblical genre of "theodicy".a well-known text,which is called--"the Babylonian theodicy".the meaning of these works,not to make mnogabukoff comes down to the question:"why do the righteous suffer?".the answer is simple...with the creation of man in the Universe began a War that has not ended to this day.to say that you are for this war doesn't have anything to assimilate to two Jews in the chamber of life imprisonment:"Chaim,if you still go there here and there,the you think you're not?".Satan comes to God(for description,there was no War yet) and says:"that was job,a righteous man,but he is righteous because he is in thine hand,and take away from him, your grace--what is?" those who read the book of job to the end,you know.first his wife said,"pachuli God and die",then best friends had his brain for a long time...now I caught myself thinking that to explain all of this "uraltau priest" the man is useless.all that you wrote-zaradi to mock the fact that you, at least vaguely,even though you know that it actually is.Merry Christmas !

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the gospel is written in Greek. And Jesus spoke aromashka.

"John the SYNOPTIC authors often stops at the witness of Jesus to Himself. In relation to It, the Evangelist uses the word Logos, well known in ancient philosophy. This feature of the IV gospel gave occasion to critics to believe that its author was a Greek writer, close to the ideas of Gnosticism. However, it became clear the relationship of the doctrine of the Logos with the Jewish concept of the Word as a form of Epiphany 161. Linguists found that the gospel of John is a work of man if not writing, then at least think in Aramaic. Sometimes it seems to be just a translation from this language. Unlike the Synoptics, John quotes the old Testament from the Septuagint, and gives the Hebrew and Aramaic of the targums 162."
Footnote 161. See: S. Troubetzkoy. The doctrine of the Logos. M., 1906, p. 225; L. Buje. About the Bible and the gospel. Per. FR. Brussels, 1965, p. 28 seq.; R. Вгоwn . The Gospel According to John, part 1, p. LXI.
162. See: C. C. Torrey. The Four Gospels, 1933; M. Black. An Aramaic Approach to the Gospels and Acts. Oxford, 1969.
"Discoveries at Qumran have shown that the fourth gospel is closely related to Assassini ideas and phraseology 163. "From now on, says researcher Qumran George. Allegro, the author is very far from Christianity, John can't be regarded as the most Hellenistic of the evangelists, it is "Gnosticism" and the whole circle of his ideas stemmed from a Jewish sectarianism rooted in Palestinian soil, and his material should be considered based on the earliest layers of the gospel tradition," 164. Charles Dodd, an expert in the IV gospel, notes that this book is based on "ancient traditions, independent from the rest of the Gospels, and deserves serious attention because it enriches our knowledge about the historical facts concerning Jesus Christ," 165. And if the weatherman is compilers that use different materials, in John's gospel everywhere visible hand of the same author. He is a master of dialogue and dramatic paintings that speak to the living eyewitnesses. However, one feature of the fourth gospel speaks against its belonging to the son of Zebedee. John it says in such reverent tones, so it emphasizes the love that was shown to him Jesus that it is difficult to identify the author by the Apostle. Bring on reflection and old icons up. John. Unlike the Synoptics, he is everywhere depicted dictating and not writing. Recently Raymond brown has put forward the hypothesis that the fourth gospel there is a record of stories and sermons of the Apostle. Later it passed through several stages of processing, while retaining intact the basis of John legends 166. Who had made these recordings and the revision of the text set is not yet possible. However, it is possible that someone made a John who lived in Ephesus. He was called a presbyter, an elder. Perhaps, John, the author who also calls himself a "presbyter", written by that person. The hypothesis of "presbyter" does not contradict the words of the Message, indicating the direct participation of the author in the gospel events. In fact, according to the testimony of Papias, the presbyter John was one of the disciples "saw the Lord", although not part of the Twelve 167. It is significant that in Ephesus worshiped the tombs of both John the Apostle and the presbyter. Wrote whether John himself or the fourth gospel was composed from his words - it is replete with true historical and geographical details that would have been unthinkable, the Greek author of the second century. It instructions IV the gospel has led, as we shall see below, to the successful results of the excavations in Palestine 168. Finally, the discovery of a fragment from John's gospel in Egypt, fully confirms the traditional date of the 90-ies. Papyrus found among the possessions of a soldier who is already about 120 years had the fourth gospel. Writing in Ephesus up to this point was to take enough time".Links
163. Guizot, F. P. G. a Reflection on the essence of Christianity. Per. FR. SPb., 1865.
164. 3. Allеgго. The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Origins of Christianity. New York, 1958, p 128.
165. CH . Dodd. Historical Tradition in the Fourth Gospel. New York, 1963, p 423.
166. See: R. E. Вгоwn.The Gospel According to John. New York, 1966, part I, p XXIV f.
167. 1 Jn 1: 1; Pipe. In the book: Eusebius. Church. history, III, 39.
168. X. Leon-Dufour. Les Evangiles synoptiques, p 297.


This is an excerpt from the book "Son of man" A. Me. If you say that again, pop there is something natural. But only the ignorant will not trust a scientist ( lay down his life for the study of these questions), which refers to A. Men!<

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all that you wrote-zaradi to mock the fact that you, at least vaguely,even though you know that it actually is.Merry Christmas !

I join the opinion You Yourself Klaus and,
Merry Christmas!

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In the gospel tells the parable, allegory. It is not necessary so literally to understand about sheep and shepherds. Says about the fatherly love of God for His people. Not worth talking about in the utmost corners, this is not the point of the parable!

There are always people ready to whitewash black. They even ssy in eyes - all God's dew!

Think big, Logician!

And you same end in the same place!

Or maybe you propose to prepisati the gospel?!

With a hangover you think so?

God - a Being possessing a divine nature, it is also not the title, but the very essence of God.

In the Bible God - a being who created heaven, earth and man. And Jesus is not this God. And about the divine nature is all of your speculation, then everything on earth has a divine nature as created by God. And... Any man can be called God, the way it is.

Think about it, here comes a crowd of adults armed, strongly-minded people. It is not the children, and even simple civilians to pieces of rebar! It guards, soldiers trained, when necessary, to kill. And suddenly, after the words of Christ, they fall down. Why, what did they hear?! Or maybe they were afraid of a handful of Galilean fishermen some scared, and quickly surrendered to the apostles? So no, the arrest of Jesus took place, so nebylo surrender. Moreover, it is said that all the disciples except Inanna, which then was just a young boy fled.

You write the sound "I" aramejski, in Greek and here Jehovah, aka Yahweh.
Jesus = Yahweh, it is also necessary to invent! So Jesus himself prayed? Himself urged on the cross? Here is the number!

Christ, subconsciously perceive you as a high Person.

I already wrote here, sorry avtorstvo not mine:
the Christ, whom I honor, hostile to thy Christ.

So all is not lost.

Do not write nonsense. Repentance in the Christian Church are waiting for me or what? Will not wait.<

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This is an excerpt from the book "Son of man" A. Me. If you say that again, pop there is something natural. But only the ignorant will not trust a scientist ( lay down his life for the study of these questions), which refers to A. Men!

Sorry, I can impenetrably stupid, but I don't understand why you quoted here too many letters? About aramejski and the Greek language I was told as an objection to your delusional statement that Jesus himself said that he ("I") is the Jewish God Yahweh. In your above text, I did not see it, but maybe bad looking? Lift my eyelids, and select it!

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the questions of those not ALL are set through private messages.forum rules not allowed to respond to others on other people's "issues"

This is what you write? To my statement that you have given, my quote taken out of context? You either fuller quote that you want to comment on, or join in someone else's discus (which ended about 2 months ago). I now have so much free time and desire to discuss the Bible, like 2 months ago. Other things missing.
By the way, can't remember when you asked me questions.

I said "probably",so what?

Probablydoes not = establish confidenceor fuck yourself "so what"!

you need the exact date of writing?pray to your God and he will tell you.

My pray! Let him suggest a date in confirmation of your words!

understand well-known shulerskih reception is to authoritatively argue and explain ,say.about the Bible,those who just never opened

Up to you, I talked to Saul. I don't understand who, in your opinion, of us not read the Bible? And who is the authority? I? Saul? And what makes you think that? And what cheating? That one of us hardly needed to read about the subject of the dispute?
You, I, I, too, didn't argue. You wished to see me reading stories about the job - please! If talking about the cheating you mean me talking to you, then it turns out, from your own words, what a cheat I am, and you have not read the Bible. Or cheat you, authoritative telling lies to me, a man who has never read the Bible.

this explains your sob"the question is not you",it is clear that not me....

Don't flatter yourself... I already wrote above about it. And the question you have for me nebylo. As I have to you. Bother to continue, to accurately Express their thoughts.

Satan comes to God(for description,there was no War yet)

What makes you think that? By whose description?

all that you wrote-zaradi to mock the fact that you, at least vaguely, even though you know that it actually is.Merry Christmas !

Everything I wrote is my opinion, writing at your request.
Although I, frankly, didn't give you, like you never, won't prove anything, only time in vain lose, and people with an open mind can think.
And decided to mock you, sweetheart, "merry Christmas," a man who is deeply alien to Christianity! <

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all that you wrote-zaradi to mock the fact that you, at least vaguely,even though you know that it actually is.Merry Christmas !

I join the opinion You Yourself Klaus and,
Merry Christmas!

See above post for what are you Klaus. The last quotation. Applies to you.

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the questions of those not ALL are set through private messages.forum rules not allowed to respond to others on other people's "issues"

This is what you write? To my statement that you have given, my quote taken out of context? You either fuller quote that you want to comment on, or join in someone else's discus (which ended about 2 months ago). I now have so much free time and desire to discuss the Bible, like 2 months ago. Other things missing.
By the way, can't remember when you asked me questions.

I said "probably",so what?

Probablydoes not = establish confidenceor fuck yourself "so what"!

you need the exact date of writing?pray to your God and he will tell you.

My pray! Let him suggest a date in confirmation of your words!

understand well-known shulerskih reception is to authoritatively argue and explain ,say.about the Bible,those who just never opened

Up to you, I talked to Saul. I don't understand who, in your opinion, of us not read the Bible? And who is the authority? I? Saul? And what makes you think that? And what cheating? That one of us hardly needed to read about the subject of the dispute?
You, I, I, too, didn't argue. You wished to see me reading stories about the job - please! If talking about the cheating you mean me talking to you, then it turns out, from your own words, what a cheat I am, and you have not read the Bible. Or cheat you, authoritative telling lies to me, a man who has never read the Bible.

this explains your sob"the question is not you",it is clear that not me....

Don't flatter yourself... I already wrote above about it. And the question you have for me nebylo. As I have to you. Bother to continue, to accurately Express their thoughts.

Satan comes to God(for description,there was no War yet)

What makes you think that? By whose description?

all that you wrote-zaradi to mock the fact that you, at least vaguely, even though you know that it actually is.Merry Christmas !

Everything I wrote is my opinion, writing at your request.
Although I, frankly, didn't give you, like you never, won't prove anything, only time in vain lose, and people with an open mind can think.
And decided to mock you, sweetheart, "merry Christmas," a man who is deeply alien to Christianity!

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Friends,I recommend to read this book http://suncharion.narod.ru/nos.html it's stronger than the movie "Zeitgeist".

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See above post for what are you Klaus. The last quotation. Applies to you.

clear with you.the art of reading in Russian to you,alas not available.you even my nickname to pronounce it couldn't....from further discussion, abstain, and offer to reschedule at that time,when you feel the first breath of Death in your face...although I feel.although ,aggressive atheists over the age of 50,I have not seen. ..and I live for a long time.surely thought so once all agree with you?some I remember quite formidable words:

everyone who confesses Me before men,
and I confess before My Father,
Which is in heaven.
And whosoever shall deny Me before men,
and I will deny him before My Father,
Which is in heaven.

.you thought rabid Satanism people will be silent?in vain more not discuss. [/quote]

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clear with you.the art of reading in Russian to you,alas not available.

Would you bother clearly and unambiguously Express their thoughts in Russian, which, according to your statement, own.
Yes, and here's a sample of your language proficiency

reputable to argue and explain ,say.about the Bible,those who just never opened

sounds very Russian!

from further discussion, abstain, and offer to reschedule at that time,when you feel the first breath of Death in your face...although I feel.

Christianity you through the brains eaten. All threatened, as your Jewish God, well, well... I'm tired, I'm afraid of someone else. And God, whom need to fear, I do not need.

aggressive atheists over the age of 50,I have not seen.

What, do I look that bad on the avatar? But as you age learn by correspondence? Here to learn! By the way, I know people older than 60 deny Christianity and the Bible.
And aggressive I am only rabid Christians.

you thought rabid Satanism people will be silent?

And you know what Satanism is? And where is it hidden in my posts?
Yes, I deny the Jewish God, Jehovah of hosts, as the entity who created the heavens and the earth, for me he is the tribal God of the Jews, imposed on the world through Christianity.
Christianity is a slave cult of death, with the character predstavlyayushie a dying man in the throes of a man crucified on the cross, willingly, without a fight surrendered into the hands of his executioners. All of this is unnatural, and not one living being will not do. I wonder if Jesus's head cut off, how would then look the symbol of Christianity? The scaffold and the axe, and next to it a severed head? Just, please, leave this worn-out song about sin and about salvation...
Sorry rabbit hunting cannot be persuaded that he voluntarily surrendered into the hands of hunters. To atone for the sins of all kinds hare! "Dumb" animals, to the end fighting for their lives. And normal people, too, the other cheek is not con...Probably this is the rabid Satanism!

surely thought so once all agree with you?

And in thoughts did not hold. I wrote to agree with me, but in order to think:
Whether the Bible is a Holy book?
And how do you know that? From hearsay?
It is not enough.

more not discuss.

That's nice. <