The cylinders and unimodularity... does It work?
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Dimas good day yesterday, got the cylinders from the city of Pushkin from Kovtun V. P. Want to ask the feeling that is constantly in your mouth the battery goes through what time?
And I will try as an experiment, not therapy to wear two rings of gold on his right hand and silver on the left.
Strange images when using the fits and the eyes closed do not allow yourself to imagine and nazivati desired pattern, make it impossible to concentrate. Did it?
And I will try as an experiment, not therapy to wear two rings of gold on his right hand and silver on the left.
Strange images when using the fits and the eyes closed do not allow yourself to imagine and nazivati desired pattern, make it impossible to concentrate. Did it?
Dimas
I've also wondered how these cylinders to put on the bed to sleep. If you lie on your back, the sun on the right near the head on the bedand the moon on the floor left - right?
The sounds of the cylinders about a week. No results. If not even worse. Insomnia, as before. Fatigue strong. Wishes don't come true, conversely, what didn't happened. Still nervous, added rash, like allergies. The cylinders are not treated. And the pain is not delivered. Wrote Kovtun, he didn't answer.
I was with them asleep, holding hands, sun to right, moon to left. Put on the chakras (exercise removing blocks). Just lying there, holding for 40 minutes and more.
The only thing that felt tingling in his hands. And then not always.
Brochure them I did not like. Could each exercise pictures to draw, and it is unclear in some places - whether fit to put along, or across. And under what diseases what exercises to do, too, is not written. For example, the child's cough was. I don't know where the fit should be put.
I've also wondered how these cylinders to put on the bed to sleep. If you lie on your back, the sun on the right near the head on the bedand the moon on the floor left - right?
The sounds of the cylinders about a week. No results. If not even worse. Insomnia, as before. Fatigue strong. Wishes don't come true, conversely, what didn't happened. Still nervous, added rash, like allergies. The cylinders are not treated. And the pain is not delivered. Wrote Kovtun, he didn't answer.
I was with them asleep, holding hands, sun to right, moon to left. Put on the chakras (exercise removing blocks). Just lying there, holding for 40 minutes and more.
The only thing that felt tingling in his hands. And then not always.
Brochure them I did not like. Could each exercise pictures to draw, and it is unclear in some places - whether fit to put along, or across. And under what diseases what exercises to do, too, is not written. For example, the child's cough was. I don't know where the fit should be put.
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I first about these ralke in 1997 in the newspaper is read and then burned to obtain them. But got only the fall of 2009 go. Also scoured the Internet in search of information so as not to give the 5200 rubles for a fake - as a result chose to fit Kovtun. Like Uvarova in alloys a large percentage of lead, and he kills slowly... I actually don't care who invented them, who did - the main thing that worked. I brought it home and immediately picked up and.... nothing! It turned out that I had a lot of metal. But when I got rid of the metal I felt a tingling and heat in the palms. Had a dream this night is very bright and lucid, unusual. For me a silver necklace that I never take it off and I thought maybe because of her interference and put it(the chain) on your photo and on each side the fit put. I thought that if the chain with me on the same wavelength, then there will be to create an interference fit with me because the fit tune into my wave. Then he Began to give fits to all family and friends - wanted to make sure that they are also something feel. Especially strongly felt sister took them in his hands and stared at me "what Is that?!" A friend often use them. The first time when I took them together - she said she had a strong burning sensation in my hand, I also felt tingling but slight. I think maybe it's our wave was to be reduced to a common denominator. Hardest TSF act as written in the instructions - when a person is hungry. I remember hungry kept them for 40 minutes, then went to the street to meet a friend. It was minus 25, I was wearing thick fur gloves and took her hand , she said chuvstvuet strong burning sensation, which after 10 minutes had died down a little. I have a feeling what's around me is something I don't understand all these energies....Fit I want to get some kind of hidden ability from reserve, which everyone has. Now that the world is fit, the energy can be increased up to heaven, but I would like something more practical to get from all this.
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If there was a magic wand how to understand this?
"The curse of the pharaohs" is hidden in their blood vessels
The reason to start studies was the strange inscription on the funerary plaque of Pharaoh Merenptah, ruled 3200 years ago.
Pharaoh lived to be 60 years. Subjects made him a mummy. Now it is kept in the Egyptian national Museum of antiquities in Cairo. There is also a burial Board the burial Merenptah. Once I saw her cardiologists at the University of California in San Diego. Asked the Egyptians to translate engraved on the stone inscription. And extremely surprised at its content.
Ligature of hieroglyphs was that before his death, the Pharaoh was sick a long time. Then, as if apologetically, they say, no it did not - he died, the authors of the inscriptions in detail listed all the ailments Merenptah.
Cardiologists, after reviewing with such a peculiar history of the disease and its symptoms, consulted and made the diagnosis. According to them, the Pharaoh was obviously suffering from atherosclerosis. For such an ancient human looked at least strange. Because atherosclerosis is considered to be exclusively a modern disease.
Cause of atherosclerosis is unknown. But there is a very common and popular among the majority of physicians the assumption that the guilty the blessings of civilization. And other related current hectic life factors like sedentary lifestyle, stress, alcoholism, Smoking, obesity. Supposedly from all of this, the blood vessels constrict, they formed cholesterol plaques, calcium deposits. And then there are strokes or heart attacks - the most common deadly diseases nowadays.
Scientists have placed the mummy of Merenptah in the CT scanner and found: a non-smoker, non-drinker and non-greasy Pharaoh did suffer with atherosclerosis. He died from a stroke.
Then the scientists moved on to other mummies. In the end, they scanned 22. 16 found in heart tissue and vessels suitable for observation. Four mummified heart is preserved even entirely. This is contrary to the view that the ancient Egyptians before the embalming of the bodies was removed from them inside. It turned out that did not all.
Atherosclerosis was detected in 9 of mummies. In other words, thousands of years ago "modern disease" struck more than half of patients. That's a lot. The real "curse of the pharaohs" that killed them. What the scientists concluded that the painful constriction of the vessels were very common in ancient times. Perhaps no less than it is now. Therefore, atherosclerosis can be considered the product only highly civilized society.
On the causes of the disease, scientists argue. Perhaps he has a genetic nature. And perhaps even virus - this assumption also exists. For example, Dr. Leah of Whigham from the University of Wisconsin (USA) says that the atherosclerosis spread adenoviruses are pathogens of the common cold. According to the researcher, it makes the fatty cells in the tissues to actively grow and multiply.
And David Granger of Cambridge University has found in vascular cholesterol plaques chlamydia - bacteria, sexually transmitted and causes chlamydia. And if so, then the "curse" is not only contagious. It is also sexually transmitted.
Alas, mummy is not helped to clarify the causes of atherosclerosis. And choose the most likely. But, continuing to explore the ancient body, the Americans still hope to get to the truth. And the contribution of risk factors to the end is not rejected.
As stressed by the head of operations Michael Miyamoto, during the life of all the mummies were either pharaohs or wealthy and noble people. Might overeat of meat. Abuse and other bad excesses.
- One thing is clear, - said another participant of the research, Gregory Thomas, is the cause of atherosclerosis one should not solely look for the modern lifestyle.
http://kp.ua/daily/021209/204642/<
"The curse of the pharaohs" is hidden in their blood vessels
The reason to start studies was the strange inscription on the funerary plaque of Pharaoh Merenptah, ruled 3200 years ago.
Pharaoh lived to be 60 years. Subjects made him a mummy. Now it is kept in the Egyptian national Museum of antiquities in Cairo. There is also a burial Board the burial Merenptah. Once I saw her cardiologists at the University of California in San Diego. Asked the Egyptians to translate engraved on the stone inscription. And extremely surprised at its content.
Ligature of hieroglyphs was that before his death, the Pharaoh was sick a long time. Then, as if apologetically, they say, no it did not - he died, the authors of the inscriptions in detail listed all the ailments Merenptah.
Cardiologists, after reviewing with such a peculiar history of the disease and its symptoms, consulted and made the diagnosis. According to them, the Pharaoh was obviously suffering from atherosclerosis. For such an ancient human looked at least strange. Because atherosclerosis is considered to be exclusively a modern disease.
Cause of atherosclerosis is unknown. But there is a very common and popular among the majority of physicians the assumption that the guilty the blessings of civilization. And other related current hectic life factors like sedentary lifestyle, stress, alcoholism, Smoking, obesity. Supposedly from all of this, the blood vessels constrict, they formed cholesterol plaques, calcium deposits. And then there are strokes or heart attacks - the most common deadly diseases nowadays.
Scientists have placed the mummy of Merenptah in the CT scanner and found: a non-smoker, non-drinker and non-greasy Pharaoh did suffer with atherosclerosis. He died from a stroke.
Then the scientists moved on to other mummies. In the end, they scanned 22. 16 found in heart tissue and vessels suitable for observation. Four mummified heart is preserved even entirely. This is contrary to the view that the ancient Egyptians before the embalming of the bodies was removed from them inside. It turned out that did not all.
Atherosclerosis was detected in 9 of mummies. In other words, thousands of years ago "modern disease" struck more than half of patients. That's a lot. The real "curse of the pharaohs" that killed them. What the scientists concluded that the painful constriction of the vessels were very common in ancient times. Perhaps no less than it is now. Therefore, atherosclerosis can be considered the product only highly civilized society.
On the causes of the disease, scientists argue. Perhaps he has a genetic nature. And perhaps even virus - this assumption also exists. For example, Dr. Leah of Whigham from the University of Wisconsin (USA) says that the atherosclerosis spread adenoviruses are pathogens of the common cold. According to the researcher, it makes the fatty cells in the tissues to actively grow and multiply.
And David Granger of Cambridge University has found in vascular cholesterol plaques chlamydia - bacteria, sexually transmitted and causes chlamydia. And if so, then the "curse" is not only contagious. It is also sexually transmitted.
Alas, mummy is not helped to clarify the causes of atherosclerosis. And choose the most likely. But, continuing to explore the ancient body, the Americans still hope to get to the truth. And the contribution of risk factors to the end is not rejected.
As stressed by the head of operations Michael Miyamoto, during the life of all the mummies were either pharaohs or wealthy and noble people. Might overeat of meat. Abuse and other bad excesses.
- One thing is clear, - said another participant of the research, Gregory Thomas, is the cause of atherosclerosis one should not solely look for the modern lifestyle.
http://kp.ua/daily/021209/204642/<
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[quote="Sergey Samusev"]demAs, as promised - write .
Stopped at the Rods-Kont.
my argument:
1) talked on the phone with the Rods.Know the subject well and answered all my questions.
2) the price is 2900 RUB
3) Explain the difference between the Cylinders of the Pharaoh, which they are 5 years made by Vladimir Kovtun and the Rods-KONT, which are made now.
4) I liked that quietly talking about competitors, did not swear - every manufacturer find a sensible grain.
5) I asked about the refund within 2 weeks, minus 450 RUB.
Tomorrow redeem, experience write.
About their impressions have not written. It would be interesting to hear about cilindro another manufacturer.
Stopped at the Rods-Kont.
my argument:
1) talked on the phone with the Rods.Know the subject well and answered all my questions.
2) the price is 2900 RUB
3) Explain the difference between the Cylinders of the Pharaoh, which they are 5 years made by Vladimir Kovtun and the Rods-KONT, which are made now.
4) I liked that quietly talking about competitors, did not swear - every manufacturer find a sensible grain.
5) I asked about the refund within 2 weeks, minus 450 RUB.
Tomorrow redeem, experience write.
About their impressions have not written. It would be interesting to hear about cilindro another manufacturer.
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From the site:Сергей Семашёв wrote:demAs, as promised - write .
Stopped at the Rods-Kont.
my argument:
1) talked on the phone with the Rods.Know the subject well and answered all my questions.
2) the price is 2900 RUB
[ 04 ] the Wands of Horus KONT-order 14.100,00 RUB.
Who to believe?
Or I do not have those looked?
Василий_01
My advice, order your better of Kovtun www.cyl.ru It is tested and at a reasonable price.
My advice, order your better of Kovtun www.cyl.ru It is tested and at a reasonable price.
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I have been doing battle for 15 years. About cylinders heard a year ago. Remember, even a movie about them. Recently the idea of following nature: if I saw the cylinders, so my brain took information about them, therefore, it is possible to run. In General, I stood up in the middle of the room, closed her eyes, clearly imagining these items in my hands and off we go...the heat in the hands, tingling as after physiotherapy currents Bernard, easy portacavana brush that spreads all over the body, then start to drive the hands (I could not do this, just relaxed-self led) photomuse body. Random body movement was not fast, with stops in places resembled the provisions of the Slavonic dances, sometimes poses from martial arts, yoga places, who knows what else. Voobrajenie cylinders became the Donets to the sites of the main glands of the body (chakras), burned these places, joints crunched. Continued exercises for about 30 minutes, at the end of the body rathayatras, itched slightly, posture has improved. Maybe I'm too easily impressed, but I would like to compare their feelings with those that arise from real cylinder, as well as to do someone with my experience and will share their experiences.
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What I got resembles the dynamics Sidorskogo
in General, these things have to penetrate the channels (the circulatory, lymphatic, nervous, fasciae between the muscles, joint fluid, etc.) by exposure to body fluids.
And if people can do it without the help of the cylinders, they exist either for lazy people or for something else. Or self-regulation is only possible with metal sticks or something...
in General, these things have to penetrate the channels (the circulatory, lymphatic, nervous, fasciae between the muscles, joint fluid, etc.) by exposure to body fluids.
And if people can do it without the help of the cylinders, they exist either for lazy people or for something else. Or self-regulation is only possible with metal sticks or something...
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Read the entire forum, I wonder... If we consider that he knew about CF before reading the forum, as well as different manufacturers are global in doubt... Deny not taken, because not strong in physics, and fezeka not very strong in metafisica and probably something else (not all revealed to man so far) just became very interesting to test the effect of the fits. If you have someone who can give to hold these celindra, I would be very grateful...
just became very interesting to test the effect of the fits. If you have someone who can give to hold these celindra, I would be very grateful...-
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Вовчик wrote:Freezing acts as a cleansing of the information of the user from the cylinders. As an option - freezer refrigerator-ka. Especially useful when they are "dirty" or before changing the user (even short).
Vovathank you.
Something I Kovtun is not responding. While the fit is not bought, answered all the stupid questions, when bought, ceased to answer.
Kidding, I don't answer even on made on the website order, St. Petersburg phone no one takes. That may benefit, since it strengthened existing doubts:Мира wrote: Something I Kovtun is not responding. While the fit is not bought, answered all the stupid questions, when bought, ceased to answer.
1) No office, no store, some questionable courier, which for 400 rubles to bring them (the piece that if he carries on the Train ?)
2) free mail on yandex, unprofessional website, no phone
3) a Fierce critic of the competitors, coming from the same company (when such issues are much better and clearer to be solved in court)
4) No detailed references on the American experience (where this "invention" is used already in 1913, right on the American sites have disclaimer that this item is not a medical device and is intended for collectors and researchers)
5) the Lack of a broad program of clinical trials (there is a conclusion only a few of doctors and engineers), however the last paragraph to the rest of the manufacturers apply.
After some thought I decided to stay in
http://www.rods.ru/ and http://www.supertok.ru/kont.html
The same rods with carbon-ferritic filler (konta) are 3300 5290 is, in addition, they performed in the Golden Section and the fillings of the rods instead of powder. Don't know how much, but closer to the source (Kont Walewski). There are wands with a filling of quartz, but information about their tests is not found. This office looks more solid, in any case, there is a shop and working the phones.
About impressions I will write