CD "healing: the magic river"

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:16

ВАР wrote:SW Andrew!
is it possible when listening isaline,conditioner,massage m,do visualisatie,to speak the text himself?or lie down to relax try to sleep?
2.is it possible when listening to read?

More effective to relax and even to sleep.

Марина Валентиновна · Post by **Марина Валентиновна** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 14:54

Good afternoon. Tell me exactly how to use disks with a mind machine. Technical question I do not understand. I only listen to one disc or I listen to some session on maynd the machine and parallel to turn the disc. Or disk session is loaded on mind-machine. Thank you.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 14:56

Marina Valentinovna
If you listen to the disc audiostream,then connect the machine to audio media and include audiostrobe mode.As it is described in detail in the instructions for operation supplied.

Василий_V · Post by **Василий_V** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:54

Andrew Welcome!

I listen almost every day at night, worse to fall asleep to the disk but it is as though the sound became bigger, his head spinning images differently rather than the earlier...

To take breaks necessary or can be on a regular basis?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 13:18

Василий$ wrote:Andrew Welcome!

I listen almost every day at night, worse to fall asleep to the disk but it is as though the sound became bigger, his head spinning images differently rather than the earlier...

To take breaks necessary or can be on a regular basis?

Break, IMHO, always better to do it than not to do.

Алекс71 · Post by **Алекс71** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 20:47

Good afternoon, dear friends and Andrei Patrushev!
Listen to MM (in the morning) and Healing (in the afternoon) for 18 days. Nothing about what You write do not feel that listening to these discs, as some feelings are, and without listening these CDs (just lying with my eyes closed).
Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Listen through regular stereo headphones without mindmachine, don't forget water (2 cups). Sorry if not clear (not clear) formulated their thoughts. I have a few herniated discs, and I would at least feel better, and a maximum of healing and gaining confidence in yourself and the future. Also discs use special exercises for the spine and methods of NLP in the book by S. V. Kovalev. Also voiced by me earlier, I would like to improve sleep, memory, thought processes, etc. thank you for your attention!

PS. Never fell asleep either during the session or after.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:39

Алекс71 wrote:Good afternoon, dear friends and Andrei Patrushev!
Listen to MM (in the morning) and Healing (in the afternoon) for 18 days. Nothing about what You write do not feel that listening to these discs, as some feelings are, and without listening these CDs (just lying with my eyes closed).
Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Listen through regular stereo headphones without mindmachine, don't forget water (2 cups). Sorry if not clear (not clear) formulated their thoughts. I have a few herniated discs, and I would at least feel better, and a maximum of healing and gaining confidence in yourself and the future. Also discs use special exercises for the spine and methods of NLP in the book by S. V. Kovalev. Also voiced by me earlier, I would like to improve sleep, memory, thought processes, etc. thank you for your attention!
PS. Never fell asleep either during the session or after.

It is possible that You have a need for increased self-control or painful sensations prevent relaxation. The lack of external manifestations does not indicate that nothing is happening. Psyche and the nervous system different for everyone, so don't expect anything and just try to relax and even to sleep.

Алекс71 · Post by **Алекс71** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:56

Андрей Патрушев wrote: It is possible that You have a need for increased self-control or painful sensations prevent relaxation. The lack of external manifestations does not indicate that nothing is happening. Psyche and the nervous system different for everyone, so don't expect anything and just try to relax and even to sleep.

Yes, of course, described my perception is subjective. I will continue to work on yourself.
Andrew, thank You for the answer!

САМОЛЕТ · Post by **САМОЛЕТ** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 16:59

Андрей Патрушев wrote:it is possible that You have a need for increased self-control.

How to get rid of this need? And where a person may receive such a need?How exactly to understand whether there is such a need for a person or not?

Гостья · Post by **Гостья** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 13:34

Hi Andrea,
Wanted to share my listening experience of disc Healing. (I asked You a couple questions in the topic Questions for the AP). Listened yesterday, after a 3-day break for Your advice. Yesterday I suddenly was struck by the fact that when I covered his eyes with the palms of the hands (for some reason very zahotelosi to do) - I suddenly saw a three-dimensional "picture" and depth. I could not understand -open or closed my eyes, thought it does not play any role and I can "see" with zakrytymi eyes as well as open. I felt his hands tightly lay eyes. And I saw at first, something like a starry sky (black body void with a flashing little white dots), then an image, like a kaleidoscope, shifting, white, gray, black, beautiful, also three-dimensional, with depth. In the normal state the laying on of hands and eyes of depth perception and images does not matter.
I think I saw his spine - cervical spine, skull and (horrible to say) the brain and then like "made fit" for him. Early (before listening to Your CDs), I repeatedly during relaxation and meditation saw his right eye staring at me. By the way, when listening to Hemi-Cinca is also having this effect. More it somehow when listening to Your CDs was not observed. I wonder what the mechanism of this effect ? Could I actually see your spine and brain ?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 21:41

САМОЛЕТ wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:it is possible that You have a need for increased self-control.
How to get rid of this need? And where a person may receive such a need?How exactly to understand whether there is such a need for a person or not?

1. Try not to control all of the little things, and allow life to flow freely. 2. From parents, for example. 3. Often You are told in plain text...

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 21:44

Гостья wrote:Hello Andrew,
Wanted to share my listening experience of disc Healing. (I asked You a couple questions in the topic Questions for the AP). Listened yesterday, after a 3-day break for Your advice. Yesterday I suddenly was struck by the fact that when I covered his eyes with the palms of the hands (for some reason very zahotelosi to do) - I suddenly saw a three-dimensional "picture" and depth. I could not understand -open or closed my eyes, thought it does not play any role and I can "see" with zakrytymi eyes as well as open. I felt his hands tightly lay eyes. And I saw at first, something like a starry sky (black body void with a flashing little white dots), then an image, like a kaleidoscope, shifting, white, gray, black, beautiful, also three-dimensional, with depth. In the normal state the laying on of hands and eyes of depth perception and images does not matter.
I think I saw his spine - cervical spine, skull and (horrible to say) the brain and then like "made fit" for him. Early (before listening to Your CDs), I repeatedly during relaxation and meditation saw his right eye staring at me. By the way, when listening to Hemi-Cinca is also having this effect. More it somehow when listening to Your CDs was not observed. I wonder what the mechanism of this effect ? Could I actually see your spine and brain ?

Trance phenomena and images are very subjective and diverse. People even intelligence secret facilities engaged in for thousands of kilometers, not just your body looking at...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 15:10

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
САМОЛЕТ wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:it is possible that You have a need for increased self-control.
How to get rid of this need? And where a person may receive such a need?How exactly to understand whether there is such a need for a person or not?
1. Try not to control all of the little things, and allow life to flow freely. 2. From parents, for example. 3. Often You are told in plain text...

ATP!

(Aircraft)

ФедорМ · Post by **ФедорМ** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 19:38

The plane
I'm not an expert and didn't ask me

But see A. V. Patrushev in Sedona. And the book they have in Cuba. If you believe the author, the need for control (of everything), is the base and have (almost) all. Let's see here. http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?p=25111#25111

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 21:14

Hello, Andrey!
I want You to sincerely thank you for Your ROMs and for the help rendered to the people.
At first I wanted to tell my experience with the discs.

Decided to start from the beginning - with "Healing".
Listened 22.00. every day. The course of 15 days.
What the problems were: depression, around 12 at night went to bed and fell asleep only in 3-4 hours, all the while spinning negative thoughts, and got up at 15.00.

After the first lesson immediately able to normal sleep, sleep was strong, and immediately began to decrease sleep time. Approximately 9 lesson, you learned about the Sedona method. Was an interesting experience. I remembered a simple relaxation technique - go through all the body with attention and relax the tension, went down and in the kidneys near the spine detected voltage. Just a note it did not relax, but there was a sense that the voltage from the brain. Started to tension to use something like the Sedona, that is why I always avoided this place, although he was lower back pain, and here I was this tension to watch and give a vent him, then let go after a couple of minutes I felt the beginning to be a relaxation and liberation, went "current" in this place, in General, was to be released the energy, but the tension has moved to the face and turned into a grimace of hatred, and it brought up emotions from the distant past. THAT is, I understood - was the emotion of hatred, a very long time, I either suppressed, or avoided, they went on the tension face, I did something like that, then the tension has moved to the rear. This chain in reverse order, I clearly felt kind of hyped.
This I mean that you can release tension in the body and find their emotions are caused, in Sedona under the disc "Healing".
Andrew, interested in Your opinion on this matter.
After this experience I became much deeper and relax both the body and the mind.
Now I have finished the 15 day course, sleep is already close to the norm, during the day more relaxed, the depression began to weaken.
Tried 15min. "Endorphins," felt a strong recoil(or whatever it is when you start to listen the first few times), was a distraction. In General on this I realized that he had put himself very much.
Wanted to ask a few questions:
1 is there soon after 15 days of "Healing" to do with "Explorer" or after 15 days?
2 What do you recommend for depression? Option- "Explorer" + "Endorphins"?. If so, approximately what goals to set for the Conductor (Depression started after breaking up with his wife, the work also went wrong, it also lost, in one word all life collapsed).
3 the Fact that I don't "fail" in the classroom, does it incomplete relaxation?
4 last question, I do not know suddenly something vskidku advise. Often in public places meditate in General in a light trance there, and recently began to get into a different, not very pleasant situation, then deceived, then he will choose wrong, and then regret it. That is slowly get out of the state, and honestly began to notice that that. Maybe something will advise.
PS Sedonas do a little, it goes hard that it turns out that no, plus do tigunait. Have a large negative trance experience, and indeed a lot had seen in my life.
Thanks in advance for your answer.
Sincerely yours, Max.<

Команда · Post by **Команда** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 16:43

Zdravstvuyte
Adrey Patrushev
Thank you very much for your CDs, and invaluable work for the society,,,,
Drives very good, the effect are amazing,,,, I used drugs was in the system,,,,,, health was so bad how you can only imagine,,, thanks to your work I have found the joy of life, a lot of interest and a lot lot more then.
Thank you Andrew.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:59

Команда wrote:Zdravstvuyte
Adrey Patrushev
Thank you very much for your CDs, and invaluable work for the society,,,,
Drives very good, the effect are amazing,,,, I used drugs was in the system,,,,,, health was so bad how you can only imagine,,, thanks to your work I have found the joy of life, a lot of interest and a lot lot more then.
Thank you Andrew.

Hello.
I have great respect for people who were able to abandon drug use, but far from thinking that my disks played the role of a magic wand. Would You share with people: how did You decide to stop using (which was the main reason, the impetus); how You were able to do so (what (who) You helped (helped), except for disks); that You will continue to support Your solution? Perhaps Your experience will help someone else...

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:08

Гость wrote:1 is there soon after 15 days of "Healing" to do with "Explorer" or after 15 days?
2 What do you recommend for depression? Option- "Explorer" + "Endorphins"?. If so, approximately what goals to set for the Conductor (Depression started after breaking up with his wife, the work also went wrong, it also lost, in one word all life collapsed).
3 the Fact that I don't "fail" in the classroom, does it incomplete relaxation?
4 last question, I do not know suddenly something vskidku advise. Often in public places meditate in General in a light trance there, and recently began to get into a different, not very pleasant situation, then deceived, then he will choose wrong, and then regret it. That is slowly get out of the state, and honestly began to notice that that. Maybe something will advise.

1. With Conductor it is possible to work immediately after (and was at the same time

)
2. If Endorphins do not go, then you can replace them with a Massage of the Brain (many have noted a similar effect). Goals for first year are not necessarily...
3. No, everyone is different...
4. Yes, it happens. In the morning, as soon as I Wake up (cheerful confident voice) and before bed (a quiet sleepy) repeat (to himself): "In public places, and(where necessary) I'm sure focused calm." In the morning you can add the 2nd track Star Wanderer (Star Flight).

Эйси · Post by **Эйси** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 14:10

Andrew, thanks for the reply. Now I checked that it was possible to communicate normally.

1. With Conductor it is possible to work immediately after (and was at the same time Smile)
2. If Endorphins do not go, then you can replace them with a Massage of the Brain (many have noted a similar effect). Goals for first year are not necessarily...
3. No, everyone is different...
4. Yes, it happens. In the morning, as soon as I Wake up (cheerful confident voice) and before bed (a quiet sleepy) repeat (to himself): "In public places, and(where necessary) I'm sure focused calm." In the morning you can add the 2nd track Star Wanderer (Star Flight).

During this time, I tried Ginko biloba with rosewort 4 issue. The effect is stunning.
During this time mastered the Sedona method. Fresh problems easily go away, but old,"pokovyryatsya" literally at the level of feelings and come out gradually, bubbling bomb. In General work.
You wrote another question in the "Advice from Andrei Patrushev".
Preparing the ground for the first question

Sincerely yours, Max.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 14:29

ЭйСи wrote:Andrew, thanks for the reply. Now I checked that it was possible to communicate normally.
1. With Conductor it is possible to work immediately after (and was at the same time Smile)
2. If Endorphins do not go, then you can replace them with a Massage of the Brain (many have noted a similar effect). Goals for first year are not necessarily...
3. No, everyone is different...
4. Yes, it happens. In the morning, as soon as I Wake up (cheerful confident voice) and before bed (a quiet sleepy) repeat (to himself): "In public places, and(where necessary) I'm sure focused calm." In the morning you can add the 2nd track Star Wanderer (Star Flight).
During this time, I tried Ginko biloba with rosewort 4 issue. The effect is stunning.
During this time mastered the Sedona method. Fresh problems easily go away, but old,"pokovyryatsya" literally at the level of feelings and come out gradually, bubbling bomb. In General work.
You wrote another question in the "Advice from Andrei Patrushev".
Preparing the ground for the first question

Sincerely yours, Max.

Good luck!

Александр79 · Post by **Александр79** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:58

Tell me, why the music is so grim ? ))

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 13:02

Александр79
It's not music in the conventional sense,from the sounds arranged in a certain order of different frequencies.

Дмитрий В. · Post by **Дмитрий В.** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:41

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
Лилка wrote:Um....!!! Peoples!!!! surely only a fly I hear????
Eh???
Lilka, as I remember it-if it flies-bees are out there somewhere fly...

a fly would I have this nailed
his sharp iguanas several times frightened and thrown out of the trance

Ренат · Post by **Ренат** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:36

Hello! Tell me please how you lose the effect of listening on a portable flash player pre-converted to WAV format because laptop or stereo type hi-fi to turn on in the morning is not possible. The second question, whether has value on what apperature to listen to this disc, it is known that any instrument has a limit in the playback frequency range and as a result, the blur in some of the frequency components, whether suffering from this effect?

Илтуак · Post by **Илтуак** » Fri May 01, 2009 14:52

Ренат wrote:Hello! Tell me please how you lose the effect of listening on a portable flash player pre-converted to WAV format because laptop or stereo type hi-fi to turn on in the morning is not possible. The second question, whether has value on what apperature to listen to this disc, it is known that any instrument has a limit in the playback frequency range and as a result, the blur in some of the frequency components, whether suffering from this effect?

Hello! The answers to your questions you'll find if you read the following threads on this forum: "Copy discs with high frequencies, On players,sound cards and other Goodies", "Headphones.What?"