1. The period of adaptation.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:57

ДмитрийИ wrote:
к-13 wrote:
ДмитрийИ wrote:Results to date:
since the last report has become even deeper relax (but such that all of the body not to feel or there to get out of it - not), in General, normal flight)
About leaving the body here, no one talking, but about the sensations of the body - this is the best result, not everyone manages it is easy to achieve, but not everyone is and should be.
Yes there is, remember, someone somewhere was floating, that's the way I am and mentioned))
And You attentively read it, maybe someone more then "floated"? Bowel there to wash before each class, not to eat not drink three days, or listen exclusively under water upside down :lol: :lol: :lol: .
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ps. I realized, after 45 days need to take a break, but it is only for sound and light stimulation, and consciously to lie down for 20-30 minutes to relax no one is "prohibited"?))
What is the goal for the month ahead interested? No need to pre-configure the negative scenario - when working with the brain it can be great to prevent it. Relax, all will be well)))
I'm not configurable)) Just pause the use of MM will still have to take, that wanted to clarify beforehand that without stimulating the MM is no problem so relax (will not affect the effectiveness of future practice). And I would not want to quit. Relaxing during the day, much better feel during the lessons already forgotten what sleepy, tired, sluggish, etc.
No, seriously, reread carefully the recommendations.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Юра88 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 20:36

Hello.I would like to start your workshop on the development of MM.Tell me how to get 12 audio files audiostrobe-path:
- 7 sessions on the background of nature of the first stage?The workshop I signed up 2 weeks ago,but the letters do not come to me.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 0:47

Have a good night.
You are not on the lists of the participants, and hence the files You sent. If You've signed up, post in the topic record of the workshop would be among Your four messages, and there is no - one in the "rainbow", two in the psi-tech and the... Request for recording the workshop in any other topics, I delete without reading. And will remove it tomorrow.
Nothing personal - this is the minimum threshold for dropping out inattentive participants.
Sign up, as it should be, and You will be happy :?

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by АРП » Mon Jan 27, 2014 23:32

Good evening!Going through the workshop for 8 days,came from vacation and immediately started...the First two day listening session in the evening,then twice a day.From the first listening was very hard to relax,hands and feet are not felt as pleasant(very deep),the head has begun to emerge of very old memories: school,University, nostalgia,euphoric state...Second day also relaxation and memories...the Third or fourth day, in the morning, relaxed and half asleep, and in the evening very cool as caught...the fact that this was listened to the session with your eyes closed, and then decided to open to try(the session was in the rain) and began to see from the beginning right transparent drops like drip right at me,and then a different transparent figure...Initially scared, then got used to it and became even as it is cool,thought not focusing on these figures and body don't feel,just breath...the Fourth day listening to the ocean in the evening(in the evening liked to listen to than the morning of TK in the morning the floor asleep and can't catch your mind), also saw the various shapes and noticed that when fully open the shape is transparent with a transparent contour and when a small flaw in the eyes of the figures are more distinct and have dark outlines...All of the sessions were listened to in the player, Navigator is not yet used..Other days, his eyes did not open, it turns quickly to relax, not feel my hands and feet in the morning as usual, half asleep, and in the evening tried to visualize situations that would like to bring to life, dreamed of...Very good tunes thoughts in the right direction!
Really liked the rain and the ocean...In a session where the rhythms change three or four times, not very relaxed kind of got used to it and then Bang on the head,scary 3-4 seconds it becomes, you get used to it and relax again...
Don't know or no go to the next stage, to relax the result is very good, after 3-4 minutes of listening session.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:14

ARP Please don't continue to adapt. Sent the files.
АРП wrote:In a session where the rhythms change three or four times, not very relaxed kind of got used to it and then Bang on the head,scary 3-4 seconds it becomes, you get used to it and relax again...
The change of the carrier introduced especially - it represents a change of slope of a plot of frequency change from time - frequency decrease on a straight line (constant, there is 2), straight to the bottom video on the rise. This is for those who are advised to use the technique of forced relaxation - in order to take a break on the straights and listen to your body condition.

Alpha session with open eyes do not work well and open eyes and the bright light is a signal to the brain of the average person to transition to beta, spontaneous anchor.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by АРП » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:46

к-13 wrote:alpha session with open eyes do not work well and open eyes and the bright light is a signal to the brain of the average person to transition to beta, spontaneous anchor.
Thank you for explaining..Although in the dark,with my eyes open during the evening session a very interesting experience...

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Юра88 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:21

Hello.I have a problem with the reproducibility of your files running from a computer using MM mode AuS.Connected as in the instructions.in MM I go to the AuS press Play mode start blinking two LEDs...on your PC run any you have sent the mp3 file . On headphones the sound comes on but glasses no signal -- + volume is also using MM not adjustable in this mode only via PC.This is a problem with my MM or I do not understand or do?

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 15:03

Юра88 wrote:Hello.I have a problem with the reproducibility of your files running from a computer using MM mode AuS.Connected as in the instructions.in MM I go to the AuS press Play mode start blinking two LEDs...on your PC run any you have sent the mp3 file . On headphones the sound comes on but glasses no signal -- + volume is also using MM not adjustable in this mode only via PC.This is a problem with my MM or I do not understand or do?
Second.
Get on the computer all the sound effects and turn off the EQ(the button reset to standard settings in the menu peanuts and player) use to connect the machine to the output of the sound card, not speakers, make sure that Your sound card operates in the range of 20-20K. And you will be happy)))
The volume of the external sounds can be adjusted with the external source of the sound (volume control on the machine is connected only to its synthesizer, passing in the audio chain it is not involved, or how to find a comfortable ratio signal/background for the built-in support sessions?).

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Юра88 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:06

Thank you!)Everything turned out :D

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 14:54

Юра88 wrote:Thank you!)Everything turned out :D
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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Фан-том » Thu Jan 30, 2014 21:46

Hello everyone and good mood!
Behind 3 weeks of adaptation! Consistently 2 times a day, 3rd time it doesn't always work!
Significant "tangible" effect is manifested at work act, when everything around is bustling and catching panic! At first I had a show like that is so slow (I did not rush everything...) and really quietly, with feeling, really, with the arrangement! It is then when all of their schools up, and I worked on! Want otmetit that one moment made to stack on intuitive thinking, and... it worked (was surprised myself)! I began to notice that some everyday moments that before was annoying now do not have the same effect! However working on the situation in road traffic! When someone is rude behaves behind the wheel and want to curse and something else in the spirit to do so (as it was before), now effortlessly restrain themselves from negative emotions...
Of the sessions of the memorable woodland
Of sensations during a session can describe one of those moments! When listening with glasses, so absorbed in his thoughts that when he finished the sound and the light, it took me some time to recover! Similar to the state when falling asleep, but there is emerging thought where are unclear and it is unclear where it goes! and there is a clear and deep thinking!
So even the unraveling of the wires from the MM before the session moved from komkan'ya - what special exciting process...
Thank you for your attention.
p.s. happy Chinese new year!!!
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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 0:14

It's all good, alpha is accumulated, but with the result status from the listening session? Relaxation somehow manifested?
Фан-том wrote:p.s. happy Chinese new year!!!
Better for this reason to sympathize with - their mail from yesterday before the number 7 does not work. And on the nose of the eighth of March :lol:

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Фан-том » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:04

Relaxation there! The body relaxes easy thoughts on the situation (it will be)! VD to stop it of course aerobatics, but to translate it into other "plane" (like I described) turned out! The status of a certain flight, and childish emotions!
Russian at school I had honestly earned 3 points, so maybe I izlogayu weak, and repeating what has been written is not hochitsya , but something like this...

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by ДмитрийИ » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:28

a small report :)

a total of 22 day (1 morning session), 3 times a day, with no gaps.

the body has a pleasant weight.
the thoughts usually do not pay attention, usually attention on the breath, sound or even chemnet, but those who notice usually describe the change of state, or rather not just notice, but describe yourself when you notice changes, such as "deeper relaxed, a feeling of heaviness"

there are some glitches sound in the left ear in the form of a very distant music or natural noises (such as knocking someone) )))
sometimes try to listen, but I can't make out what kind of music)

there are no glitches, and the neighbors are noisy, and oddly enough the last time they do not respond, do not cling to me, is that there is not. Though earlier his whole body reacted, especially on sharp (and sometimes start banging or even chenit, I don't know what are they doing there )) )

Yes, once noticed, relax deeply, but after the session such apparent ease after the first lesson not to notice, probably used...

there is nothing more to tell, end))

ps. Yes (if you remember previous post), on colonic irrigation three times before the session it is necessary to think, can I prevent the bacteria will deepen even more? And good idea not to eat or drink for three days, especially after washing, the remains of live bacteria from starvation and rest, and finally get rid of the pests))))

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 13:24

There are three degrees of relaxation in bodily sensations:

- a feeling of heaviness, when the muscle is released, most of the stress is removed, they begin to feel their own weight, which is now nothing to support it. According to research, to that extent, the percentage of alpha to other brain rhythms is not more than 15%, still dominates beta.

- sensation of heat when the muscles are relaxed so that even the blood vessels are expanded, blood circulation do not interfere, and she freely (and without load on the heart) carries the external parts of the body's internal heat. At this time, if not to sleep, then alpha and beta are balanced and in sum account for about 80 percent of the total number of manifested rhythms. It is this state of awake gives a calm, peaceful and effective state when it all works out without much stress and mistakes is almost no place (except those that are caused externally or, for whatever reason, the "right" to our subconscious). This condition persists during the alpha training wakefulness, and notes that most of the participants of the workshop.

- the feeling of weightlessness when the muscles are relaxed so that they are not receiving sensory information and the brain off their receptors (as during sleep) - often in such moments there is a feeling that the body generally does not - just a point of consciousness (which can expand to the size of a tennis ball, soccer ball, rooms, houses...). It is in this degree of relaxation is best anchored pure alpha, for later use anchors on the objectives of the workshop. It's only about 70 percent of alpha, present dominance, while beta is gradually replaced by theta, and eventually (with increasing immersion experience) and alpha lowers the frequency until the frontier with Teta. In normal alpha training (courses for 21 days with the same interruptions) the emphasis of the program is the second stage - balance for everyday use without anchors is much better.

With the weakening of sensory information from the muscles, part of the resources goes to the receptors of external influence - the eyes, ears, nose, tongue, but since there are generally monotonous and repetitive impact, the brain clings to every case of a breakthrough of information from the outside - auditory hallucinations, it's just amplified and interpreted by the brain to weak external signals as images under closed eyelids (phosphenes) is interpreting and strengthening the brain stain from the failure of supply of rods and cones oxygen from the blood. If You have auditory hallucinations brighter than the images, then it's just a sign that You the degree of the representative systems mostly auditory, but not visual, like the vast majority, and kinesthetic just much faster to reach deep stages of relaxation.

Sense of care a sense of ease - it's just addictive. After a couple weeks of being able to slightly inflated alpha man simply adapts to a new state - there is no more contrast to the clogged brain and muscles, so many people think that they have lost the result. Now for this feel need much deeper changes, and at these stages they come slow and again not cause of contrasting experiences. Believe me - if You will abruptly return to its previous state, you will immediately feel the difference (for this example, just a mediocre hangover in a couple of days man it seems is getting back to normal, and the difference is not noticeable, but if you consciously compare the new track with the one that was before the drinking and the effects of alpha training, the difference becomes apparent, although now returning to it will not be bright/contrast).<

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Гильгамеш » Fri Jan 31, 2014 20:56

I have in the beginning of the session, often there is a feeling of gravity. The feeling is that the body, especially the hands were big and clumsy. And punctuated by this state with the "fly" into some of his thoughts. Then Yes, the body zero attention. At the end of the session were reluctant to return to the previous state after the "just woke up" though not asleep. Not enough, think whether it is possible to increase the duration such as 40 minutes? Alternatively, the body still resists and should gain the effect of the standard sessions?

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:09

Gilgameshno need to miss classes and make frequent pauses. Sent in a personal recommendation.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Ланцелот » Sun Feb 02, 2014 0:21

Do the third day in the morning and evening. On the second day on these activities drew the attention of my cats. Cat falls exactly on the 5 chakra, the cat between the second and third chakra. Are not moving the entire session. To drive them, and let lie?

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:58

Well done guys, never miss a moment))) is Better, of course, in the initial stages to do without weights, but if you do not interfere :?

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Саир » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:15

Dear colleagues, good day!

December 24 took a break, from the 2nd of February to resume her studies.
This time, points will not be used at all, only player with headphones and MM.
Start with the adjustment period. Now I write here not about the results, just to report that I'm back, and glad of it.
к-13 wrote:There are three degrees of relaxation in bodily sensations:
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...but now the return on it will not be bright/contrast).
Roman, thanks for the great and detailed explanation. While reading, yourself have "tried" all the stages.
I have another question overdue. I noticed it happens often when listening to the sessions, my head begin to fill a very aggressive thoughts and images. The result is deep relaxation, the body already "leads" from a variety of stresses. I'm giving this as few to appear, and then just a conscious effort to relax the body consistently arms-face-back... etc fully admit that it rises some repressed aggression, but... what is alpha?
And how further to work with it?

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:53

It happens that on the mental level there is too much negativity so just to reset it somewhere man endured, not rude where like, when it is someone enraged, or witnessed the shocking situation where he was powerless to fix something (many enough news or tape and classmates to view :? ). Untrained psychics can instantly neutralize the suppressed aggression - she needs a way out. And in alpha, and this need is bound to come out (or rather when you try to enter it - the deeper the state, the more it makes opened a masked and recessed on the bottom of the psyche of problems, not in order to make a practicing neurotic, and gradually to work out and make each subsequent dive more simple, fast, and deep). There are no ready solutions to many helps interaction with the universe on the subject of resolve to pray, to actively polizeibeamte. use mental routines or modules, or to work on the situation in the personal world... And someone mutuzit pear or belching hordes of demons in video games...

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Катя-ЛЕС » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:56

started listening today is the first day. listened to birds in the morning.focus on sounds but there are still thoughts floating many distractions. And how to deal with lighting files if I only have a computer and headphones, and mm and no points?

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:42

They're all "light"))) None - just listen. Without glasses they also work well.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Катя-ЛЕС » Fri Feb 07, 2014 17:56

Clear. work well. now listen to the afternoon session and the head freshened up.)

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by ДмитрийИ » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:47

report:
a total of 34 days, three times a day.
Without breaks and weekends :)

The target state (3 the degree of relaxation) is still not achieved.
Bodily sensations: a little easy (except for the hands, they almost do not feel), the feeling of contact with the body surface.
All my feelings are confused, sometimes it seems that more relaxed, and the progress is obvious, and sometimes it seems to be as much as that time, but somehow it is not as though accustomed to that level, it is unclear...
Changes and movement from session to session is clear, but in what direction, I do not understand.

I'm probably the fastest participant of the workshop)))

Feel not enough me 20 minutes, maybe go for 40 minutes per session?
If Yes, then how to do it in the workshop?

ps. can you move on? :)

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