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Post by +ангел » Fri May 20, 2011 15:45

How to make the device "Alive and dead water"
but it is also possible to manufacture the device the pictures are posted on the 15th page
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Very Important-precautions-in this video the device has a galvanic connection to the network 220 volts(like current and voltage may not be weak)
decoupling with a network is better to use a step-down transformer on 9-36 volts :wiz

device with graphite rods even better

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Post by Михаил_ » Sat May 21, 2011 0:20

on the website of the Icarus a lot of interesting articles, sometimes, to unload the heads from the other work - I read them, mostly because their model is very close to my understanding of the physics of the world (I'm talking about resonance model), because I have reason (very simplistically speaking) to assume that all have a resonance ( and our perception of space and time - in some ways too, but that's much outside of this topic)

Here is an excerpt on the topic of contactless processing:


----The phenomenon of noncontact electrochemical water activation (BAS) was theoretically predicted in 1992 by I. L. Gerlovin is based on the physical theory of the fundamental field [1].. Experimental data on contactless ECHO first published by W. M. Bahir in 1992 [2].
----Hermetic thin-walled closed containers (ampoules or capsules) or tube made of polyvinyl chloride (PVC, diameter 3 mm, wall thickness 1 mm) with saline solution was placed in a working chamber (anodic or cathodic) electrochemical diaphragm activator. Typically, activation of the ampoules was carried out 30 min while the current, or while current is off just before the dive tanks with saline in the ECHO environment.
----After 30 min of contactless activation parameters for the solutions in the vials were as follows [3]:

Table.
The Parameters Of The Outcome.
NAT R-R Anolyte Catholyte D ЛА0
D LAR D СА0
D SAR D ФА0
D LIGHTS D ЛК0
LKR D D SC0
D TFR D ФК0
D FKR
pH 6.7±0.2 1.1 11.5 -0.8±0.1
-1.3±0.1 -0.2±0.1
-0.5±0.1 0.1±0.2
0.2±0.15 0.5±0.2
0.8±0.2 0.2±0.15
0.4±0.2 -0.4±0.1
-0.2±0.1
MV 260±5 1135±15 -845±5 110±10
150±7 31±8
30±5 -80±5
-130±4 -490±7
-560±10 -280±5
-370±6 23±7
30±10

ЛА0 where D = pH(ORP)Lao-pH(ORP)Ref.Phys.R-R; L,, f - the material of the ampoule (polyester, glass, PTFE); And activation in the anolyte To the catholyte, P(O) - activation when the current is turned on (off) immediately before dipping of containers with the physiological solution in the ECHO environment.
----Thus, after exposure of the sealed vials with physiological solution in the anolyte or in the catholyte the pH and ORP of a physiological solution change significantly, which can be considered as a manifestation of contactless ECHO. This effect is qualitatively the same when the electrolyzer and when it is off. Anolyte and catholyte are in a physiological solution through glass, lavsan and fluoroplastic. In addition, for glass and Dacron the direction of changes in pH and ORP corresponds to the sign of the electrochemical treatment (anodic or cathodic), and for fluoropolymer characterized by inversion of the sign of electrochemical machining. After 2 hours, the pH and ORP, changed as a result of contactless ECHO, are relaxation, indicating the absence of penetration of the stable products of eletrolyte inside closed vials. Therefore, non-contact ECHO osushestvlyaetsya on the energy level without the attendant transport (mass exchange) of ions through the ampoules wall [3].
----To clarify the nature of the phenomenon of contactless activation, we conducted additional experiments.

http://www.ikar.udm.ru/sb15-12.htm

ie, the topic started in private conversation with a Zombie to hydrogen it has a very secondary relation

but just in this place is seen a strong intersection with the topic of structuring itself.

another thing is that there are very stable structures (live for years and this is confirmed), and activators usually do not give a stable structure.

Moreover, this effect has a resonant nature. Stable structure in which there are other analogues in the world (nature) that's why I mentioned Vistalizator pomahival and a ban on its screening.
It is also interesting that some (many of my friends) people are not interested in special treatment, was fond of its activation in the field of Tesla coils (more precisely katscher) and talked about the interesting effects that usually people write about-ORP (sea of energy, increase immunity, etc.).
And in most cases the idea of such activation came to mind intuitively.
I haven't tested how changing the characteristics of water next to the Tesla and do change.

But I checked a few other interesting things about electrolysis and came to the conclusion that under pulsed electrolysis (short pulses) (see links in the topic about the book the digital world) one of the electrodes is activated and energy is already being drawn to the land is kind of weak, but a source of energy. (in the biological sense).
Because of this and some other observations, I believe that we need to look wider than just the negative-ORP.
Ideally you need -ORP water with sustainable structures harmonious body(and long gelisimi), which is not the fact that the desired cell, but the fact that the required information (what you write on water).<

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Post by +ангел » Sat May 21, 2011 14:07

Michael and about some of the Tesla coils you gave an example
can you provide a link ?
about contactless activation soon find out
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Post by Михаил_ » Sun May 22, 2011 16:04

1.according to my personal experience abrupt changes in ORP including inside closed glass containers, and also in connection with the article - apparently also influenced very much the rebuild of structures that can be stable (for long) and not resistant (rapid return to positive for example).
2. according to my device (the second not yet purchased), the tap water in some parts of the suburbs like +310овп
3. I cleaned the old Emerald (disassembled, dismantled the reactor, took citric acid and sandpaper, cleaned in a solution that in the manual).
Now, illuminates when a very small head (previously, when this didn't work) and when in the water can be seen slidy electrolysis - water is saturated with gases to bubble.
If the Emerald was given the shift of OCP towards zero and minus (low positive) at 40-120 units, after cleaning began to release water -20 -50 ORP.
And taste has changed dramatically for the better.
But negativity is not sufficient.
Although I like the taste (without additional structuring my funds) is much greater than that of BSL-MED-and
Overall satisfied.
It is interesting that even after that and after 2-3 times of handling BSL-honey below 230овп comes out though burst, though promised -500 -800, it is thought, will announce later, will put a number of experiments.
Well need a second device for comparison, maybe this scale is clamped in the zone of zero. (very large positive values, he also does not want to show).

About Tesla - look in a network on the theme of "Tesla kacher-brovina" here on the forum has a similar thread.
Something similar with this and our U1 (where the same principles at the core, tying and other programs).
I'll see how stagnant the water in the sense ORP and other parameters - write. Have not ever measured in Tesla.

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Post by Михаил_ » Sun May 22, 2011 16:05

Yes. Technically clean emerald was very simple. But practically it is quite clear that the vinegar cleaning allows you to clean it does well.... once a period of time need mechanical. Perhaps this is due to very dirty water in the water supply.

Sorry not had time to remove the signal parameters on the reactor (it is clearly impulse that interesting).

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun May 22, 2011 20:45

Acetic acid removes the so-called scum - and calcium deposits. For the other (primary) contaminants from city water - fine rust the citric or adipic acid...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon May 30, 2011 19:28

Have a Nice (see above).

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Post by Дядя Вадя » Wed Jun 01, 2011 14:58

ЗОМБИ wrote:Duc it electrolysis coupled with a magnetic stirrer tinder all the information nafig... or am I wrong?
Zeland have a counter-proposal to pass through a magnetic funnel, only gastranomic these should not be sold. but stirring more trouble

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Wed Jun 01, 2011 16:05

I have this ,but I would not say that magnetic funnel much that cleans. The difference is small,but this is my subjective observation. Anything else is not checked. The scale remains the same. No less.

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Post by Дядя Вадя » Wed Jun 01, 2011 21:32

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scale and not have to leave the magnet removes information content as would be clears the contents. as the eraser rubs out the pencil. well, this I understand

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Jun 01, 2011 22:13

Uncle Vadya
Throughout the world industrial water treatment includes magiciana it to prevent scum deposits. 8) :)


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Post by Михаил_ » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:18

in connection with the receipt of new equipment occasionally will post a small report in the subject of water in the folding section. For a start about the comparison of measurement devices for AFP-negative values.

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Post by heroinass » Mon Oct 03, 2011 17:51

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Mon Oct 03, 2011 21:43

Every Sandpiper praises its swamp.
It would be interesting to test this water and see how much they are comparable to the claimed.

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:34

yeah... in a plastic bottle it :) very useful of course :)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:59

By the way, Tara of PVC really malicious, but polycarbonate even negative ORP for some time (from -250 to -50 for the week) holds (of course, worse than glass and is highly dependent on volume).

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Post by Хаст » Tue Oct 04, 2011 16:55

If anyone knows tell me, shungite structures the water or works purely physically as an absorbent and a source of fullerenes? What is the significance of the fact that shungit is very old mineral, whether it carries in itself some kind of ancient alien signal due to its origin? Just as I know how absorbent shungite works not long, but water continues to structure. Or not?

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Post by Михаил_ » Thu Oct 06, 2011 0:03

Works and and so. Water structure continues. Carries some harmonious signal. But I don'T recommend to constantly drink water infused with shungite, alternate it with something else well, at least in 30% of cases. In other words, there are some grounds to believe that it is worth having some variety in used variants of structuring.

F-tsii as of shungite sorbent can be restored by flushing recommended by the manufacturer for fillings Sumitomo-zeolite filters.

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Post by ВАЛ1 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:32

Dear LADIES and GENTELMENT. We live in a very aggressive world where everywhere you look, everywhere it is necessary to scratch turnip itself,because around us, and ICARUS, and DUREMARA.
Here is my example.
Advertising I bought shungite filter. Used a year and a half. Watched, washed and acid, and alkali. Did everything according to the manufacturer's instructions. I began to notice that when you use water after the filter, the body, as it resists, it somehow jars.
Once again if you wash the filter, clear instructions, has been talking about filtering with the familiar. Retired chief warrant officer, a specialist in military treatment, which is advised to send manufacturer, and also the filter, you know where. Argued, even fought. But he's a specialist. Came home, opened the filter and saw the cover layer of the nozzle, i.e. the colony of the fungus - slime mold. Saw, was taken aback, stuck in the pelvis, slipped my hand to the bottom. All elbow deep in snot. Here is a filter, that this filter, that is durilovo. The stuff in the trash.
I had to apologize. Get a clear, detailed advice. If interested, next time, I will continue. Maybe what I wrote in the shuffle, or you are interested in. Conclusion=== the schema filter that we sell, solid hustles.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Oct 08, 2011 14:21

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Post by Михаил_ » Sat Oct 08, 2011 14:51

Shungite is very conducive to the wildness of this life. while its filtering properties though, but still ... questionable compared to any reverse osmosis system. So most structurer more than anything else.
I remember my friend the bottle in the cooler poured through shungite filter. So the cooler the inside all the greenery began to grow, along with this "refillable" bottle. quickly and very active.... ie there have been a few weeks, and the effect was on the face.
That generally suggests that one of the f-functions shungite performs. Water after fit for life, including here all sorts of fungi and protozoa. Ie it is much more lively than the input.
But in this way it is easier shungite stones in water to distribute. And wash them sometimes.
Flushing with acid and select apparently good at the opening of the filter.... I remember in a later(?) or other instructions to Sumitomo zeolite filters recommended cooking the composition in the oven....

So this is what I?
There are many factors. Here, in my old Emerald (which replaced goes a new double-reactor), Yes, the network is saying and others too, there is such an additional semi-cylinder flow, very similar to filled schungite crumbs. Well, obviously not for the purpose of filtering (where all cathartic moments of this reactor). I.e. the mechanism of structurization of weak flow. Although it is possible there is something else but the color and size of granules - it is very similar. The coal there to be not what (he the life of the filter 1001 times would have died).
About the factors of I in the sense that none of the information is not suitable for an unambiguous interpretation.
Experience someone is very valuable, but it can be in its one-sided, according to the current picture of the world received it of man. Effective cleaning is one thing. Other water parameters is somewhat different. And with them there is no uniqueness :) Clearly while it is clear only that it's important enough :)

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Post by ВАЛ1 » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:34

That's what explained specialst====== let filter designed for cleaning tons of water. Missed a ton, the filter is destroyed, in its place put new. If you missed the 10 liters of water after stopped. There is also the filter that is removed, put a new one. Here's an army order.
Hence for the normal supply of the desired station, with at least two or more parallel connected filters. One worn out, destroyed, put new. At this time the work went on parallel filter in a parallel pipe. That's the whole trick, or rather the normal order.
Hence any filter, both direct and reverse osmosis, with the existing pattern of use in the home usloviyah is an instrument of self-destruction. To change the filter after a single use, costly in terms of money. Reverse osmosis filter are also dangerous because the water bessolevaya after him. Here I can say that after drinking the distillate and even recover. So the question is moot and subject to analysis.
And getting normal water, it is possible to deal with vitalization and other innovations.

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