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Post by Александр_ » Sun May 25, 2008 3:30

художник wrote:But you wrote that beginning to think in images. It's all there. The volume will appear
I agree.
Drawing is primarily working with color, shape and images, stimt only a little to pay attention to him and the world begins to open up.
Try not to expect.
I think will come by itself.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Mon May 26, 2008 8:45

Александр_ wrote:I have not yet obtained, Yes, I'm not particularly in a hurry for that :)
I hands seen during meditation.
Again :)
1)do not look their hands
2) it is not during meditation
3) just raspokoval vision and took in the head, "the void"

this is all without much strained.
my point is THAT the slope of the development in this direction fiction.. it's just that sometimes I think that "cool" to see his eyes closed because in this embodiment it is seen otherwise than under vision through the eyes :)
and then - Bang, of course something happened.

My emphasis on the fact that the overall development DEVELOPS the PERSON HOLISTICALLY AND over TIME BEGIN to NOTICE some VERY AMAZING ABILITIES, even without exercising targeted them for "receiving".
wanted - on. :) all just :)
however to develop vseravno need to get acceptable sharpness.

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Post by Александр_ » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:42

to the point.
nothing to add.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:17

Friends,
tell me books on visualisatie..
my situation is that I can pick up the resulting image and more Menne with him "manage" .. but also really see the "orange basket" ( i.e., to implement it your items) - nifiga does not work.. ( I only imagine. but you really look like on the photo does not work (but it only "picked up" from passing in front of the eyes images) ))
can someone a good book on visualization ever read and it helped him - share the link.

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Post by Карил » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:30

Me and me share the link. :)

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Post by художник » Thu Jun 05, 2008 18:09

Eugene, you are likely to read it, but still look
Let's see why 99 percent of people can't visualize a gram. That is, 99 percent of people think they can't visualize a gram. But this is completely wrong, because 100 percent of people absolutely can not visualize, they do it all the time, but they don't know what they're doing it!
This misunderstanding appears to be simply due to the fact that visualization is generally poorly explained and taught. Visualization is very easy and does not take any time for training. It is a natural ability that everyone uses constantly.

...Most people, if they are completely honest, admit that they have some problems with visualization, or that they can't do it. You'll find a few of the lucky ones who claim that they do not have any problems with visualization. A lucky few can easily see with mental eyes, visualize exactly like watching television with closed eyelids. Just randomly got lucky with this type of visual ability is a big part of all affected by this widespread and self-propagating problem.
...A commonly used term visualization is the root of the problem. A lot of teachers tell their students that after a little practice they should be able to see what they visualize. Unfortunately, of course, this is partly true, but it is not something that can be quickly studied the people, with the exception of those with strong natural ability.
In a nutshell: visualization is not a visual skill. You don't actually see what you visualize. If You see something, it does not render, and type of ability — vision of the mind's eye.
GL.8 R Bruce Astrelina dynamics

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Post by Dimas » Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:35

artist
What the above suggests?

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Post by Карил » Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:58

The artist seems clearly answered.
художник wrote:unfortunately, of course, this is partly true, but it is not something that can be quickly studied the people, with the exception of those with strong natural ability.

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Post by Dimas » Fri Jun 06, 2008 13:01

So,I didn't understand the summary,we don't have to strain to visualisierung?We all can,that is, any representation of something=imaging?????

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Post by Карил » Fri Jun 06, 2008 13:31

Apparently so.
Thinking on what the shelf is salt, I closed my eyes can not see anything. But definitely I visualize in addition to salt the fact that is next to it - a pot, two bags of sushi, knife, olive oil, plate.

I guess if I'm going to train this ability more often, I can mind's eye (without seeing the image with eyes closed) to cover a much greater number of objects. For example, once all the contents of the kitchen together with salt, presenting the cabinets, let's say translucent.

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Post by художник » Fri Jun 06, 2008 23:54

Карил wrote:the Artist seems clearly answered.
So I did not answer and R Bruce. I just highlighted one sentence :)
From myself I can add that the word Visualizate too abstract and the values and meanings it can be set to each his own, depending on the "world of perception", so I like the approach Bruce. But as if all this was not called working with images is always useful. Concentrating on something, imagining something or visualisie the way we enter into the trance state - which is good.I do not affect their professional business, and mission and goal as such, other.

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Post by художник » Mon Jun 09, 2008 19:25

Found that http://torrents.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=531614
If someone is familiar with the RV comment. of course, I mean not the book. and prog

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Post by художник » Mon Jun 09, 2008 23:26

Dimas

"But I can't use the visualization!"
(Inspiration to order)
Many people have rigid ideas about what is visualization, how to use it and whether they use it. Some believe that you can't use visualization. Is their belief so much that they don't even try to use it. Others continue to make attempts, but deep think that they are doing it in vain. Often the fear of what you don't know how to use the visualization is based on a misconception of the visualization. In this section we will talk about what is visualization and you will understand that it can be used by everyone. The next paragraph you simply have to read and then just follow the instructions.
Close your eyes. Imagine you are about what or whether to drink. From a Cup or from a Cup? What color is the drink? Or maybe it is transparent? Make the drink. Hot or cold it is? Fully filled your Cup or glass, or only partially? Raise your imaginary vessel. Heavy is he? Put it with a flourish on the table. You hear the thud? Smell it. Finally, in try. Be careful not to burn if it is hot. Drink as much as you want. Then open your eyes and return to normal.
What happened? What were you drinking? Can you remember the taste or smell of the drink? Can you see it? Can you hear him splashing in a glass or Cup? If you answered "Yes" to at least some questions, you can successfully use visual-organization.
Many people visualization is associated exclusively with the visual images, but in fact the concept of visualization more broadly. Many believe that if they are unable to generate visual images, it means that not able to use visualization. Sapom-

Nita: the ability to generate visual obra-call does not determine the ability to visualize!
It is necessary to remember that humans have not one sense, but five. People can not only see but also hear, and feel the taste, smell and touch. Therefore, it would be better to call the phenomenon is not visualization, and sensualities. Each of us has a prevailing sense that we tend to use the first. And since many of us the role that feeling plays just vision, we tend to evaluate all the effects, as perceived visually, forgetting that there are other effects. Adding them to the visual, we can obtain a much more complete picture. And thus we can extend the limits of visualization to Saint-
sualization.
It should be noted that you must not practice the visualization, namely sinalizacao and so to increase the sharpness and brightness of the material alpha waves.
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Post by Dimas » Tue Jun 10, 2008 14:43

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Thank you!!!Oh,so fucking know how to visualize!!!Although visual images I have a very good polchaetsya to imagine,but in a certain state,can not catch it as the tail and to identify the causes of his sudden appearance..and very often unsuitable for the cultivation areas-bus,subway...

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Post by Guest » Wed Jun 11, 2008 13:12

Alexandr You can lay out the outline of Bechterewsche seminar? I'd be greatly obliged!
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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Jun 11, 2008 16:15

Artist, thank you.
now, I understand the difference :)
I have started reading "Astral dynamics", but has not yet reached those sayings that You gave to me.

Again, thank you.

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 12, 2008 15:44

Hello! My name is Alexander. Could you help me by telling how to achieve prosvetleniya and something about how to learn reincarnation, how to fight in the astral and how to earn a colossal amount of energy to do what you do in the astral plane, in the physical world, what is chakra and how to release(create)? I will be very grateful though for any answer.

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Post by Карил » Thu Jun 12, 2008 15:46

GEE!!! :lol:

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Post by аурик » Thu Jun 12, 2008 15:53

Гость wrote:how to get prosvetleniya
this is a question for Buddha
Гость wrote:how to learn reincarnation
to practice the Phowa transference of consciousness ( a method of dying in the mind)

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Post by Карил » Thu Jun 12, 2008 15:57

Anonymous wrote:Hello! My name is Alexander. Could you help me by telling how to achieve prosvetleniya and something about how to learn reincarnation, how to fight in the astral and how to earn a colossal amount of energy to do what you do in the astral plane, in the physical world, what is chakra and how to release(create)? I will be very grateful though for any answer.
Sorry you earnestly wrote or is this banter?

The astral is such an unusual conscious "sleep", completely modeled in our subconscious. The peculiarity of this "sleep" vergleichstest experiencing fantasies. As environments and characters are modeled not controlled by the subconscious mind, the impression of autonomy.

At the moment there is no evidence that this "dream" has at least some relation to reality. If anyone can think of a way physical effect on the reality of the astral plane, I'll be glad.

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Post by Александр_ » Thu Jun 12, 2008 16:45

Thank you for such interesting questions.

Enlightenment can be achieved probably doing the same what did the people under him.
But each of them your way.
You can probably find an enlightened master.
Or book some enlightened him to look through.

And reincarnation that we all have automatic effects.
As soon as we die, reincarnate again. But this is not always, who in turn is someone from the sky ...
So it's automatic.

Chakra you already have, after reading this post, I diagnosed you and nastal 7 major and 70 small, so now they you have exactly.

And what about releasing chakra hear for the first time - you are probably talking about the output of chakra from the circle of samsara ?
So they are the complex.
In General clarifies the issues.

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Post by Князевский » Thu Jun 12, 2008 20:41

Карил wrote:GEE!!! :lol:
That You just noticed :ay

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Post by аурик » Thu Jun 12, 2008 23:35

аурик wrote: the Phowa transference of consciousness
this is the practice of conscious rebirth

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Post by Guest » Fri Jun 13, 2008 0:45

Карил wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hello! My name is Alexander. Could you help me by telling how to achieve prosvetleniya and something about how to learn reincarnation, how to fight in the astral and how to earn a colossal amount of energy to do what you do in the astral plane, in the physical world, what is chakra and how to release(create)? I will be very grateful though for any answer.

Sorry you earnestly wrote or is this banter?

The astral is such an unusual conscious "sleep", completely modeled in our subconscious. The peculiarity of this "sleep" vergleichstest experiencing fantasies. As environments and characters are modeled not controlled by the subconscious mind, the impression of autonomy.

At the moment there is no evidence that this "dream" has at least some relation to reality. If anyone can think of a way physical effect on the reality of the astral plane, I'll be glad.
so astral it is entertainment ?
drugs glitches too, because vergleichstest experiencing fantasies. As environments and characters are modeled not controlled by the subconscious mind, the impression of autonomy.

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Post by Карил » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:03

Control vision which generates a subconscious impossible, but you can influence the subconscious mind.

In a deep state for example, you run his head against the wall much to hurt, to feel pain. All sensations, appearance, texture walls, all the scratches on it - everything is perceived as real. But if you convince the subconscious that this is not a wall, as for example a computer field model, through the "wall" you can go. To evaluate the complexity can try to convince yourself in real life that the wall in front of you - a computer model and try to pass through it.

I somehow not interested in Nakamichi, so I don't know whether it is possible in the use of hallucinogenic such to the same degree of awareness and ability to influence events in the astral.

Read the book of Michael of the Rainbow - "Outside the body", a good pragmatic, critical approach to the phenomenon of astral travel.

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