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Post by Энди » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:57

Yesterday listen to track Russian Rock made for a conclusion that the alpha waves it is necessary to connect only with something optimistic and Russian rock in General as a phenomenon reduces emotional tone. In short, relax and could not. While solid five track only KNOCK consistently gives relaxation and keeps in consciousness.

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Post by к-13 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:43

Энди wrote:Yesterday listened to a track of Russian Rock made for a conclusion that the alpha waves it is necessary to connect only with something optimistic and Russian rock in General as a phenomenon reduces emotional tone. In short, relax and could not.
Everyone is different :? For this song I have great reviews. And from the words you need to ignore, as well as from thoughts.

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Post by к-13 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:45

Стык wrote:K-13,thanks.The issue MM is not present,what good would read this topic?more with a point focused solely on that,earn and buy!ready?
Sound recordings and the more exercises work great and without the mind-machine (here it's just a catalyst). So the benefits will be the same as having MM (assuming a responsible approach to the implementation conditions of the training).

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Post by к-13 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:04

Энди wrote:ZOMBIE we're not an hour the twins? you have an hour no typical mole on my right ankle? :lol:
You, above all, to the end of the day do not meet, and then absentmindedly forget to hold back the desire to punch somebody in the face, and two easy leaving myself wishing in one place the cause will find)))
this questionnaire contains twenty percent of the issues attracting the ears to you diagnosis reduced the number of alpha waves.
This questionnaire collected a small part of the signs of excessive level of beta, and that's all.
I here for example after a passed course the alpha waves already on the third day I want to drink exactly (have to restrain myself).
So even with stimulation, they are not enough - 20 grams of alcohol at absorption through the walls of the stomach and dissolving in the blood at 15 minutes great increase alpha level (light relaxation, let go of the problem, sudden joy, unconditional love to everything around him - all signs of an increased alpha frequency), but it takes time, and the next dose suppresses the effect of each successive dose reduces the effect, but the emotional attachment has already been created. The body on a subconscious level requires increased alpha - he likes the status, it it is natural - all healthy and happy children live in it, that is back at the alpha as if he returns to the magical world of childhood... So we have so many alcoholics :cry:

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Post by к-13 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:22

ЗОМБИ wrote:heavy Head, hard to concentrate? by the end of slave days.
Often get out of yourself? – the older, the more often and most importantly stronger.
Feel anxiety and/or depression? – it happens.
Suffer topographical cretinism (not familiar with the terrain)? – that's right.
Feeling sick? – it happens.
Sleep with difficulty? – nope, usually I bring (brought) himself to polyamory and then go to bed.
Are you a maximalist? – to take everything and divide.
Bring everything to perfection? – that's right.
Working overtime? – that's right.
Not enough fresh ideas? – enough.
Live in the city? – that's right.
Smoke? threw can not remember how many years ago.
From time to time feel the desire to drink? nope, smoke :)
Commit reckless spending? – nope, I just do not mind the money while they are there.
Addicted to computer games? – threw raw footage of my game.
Absent-minded and forgetful? by the end slave of the day or if you repress the desire to punch somebody in the face.
Function in a chronic time pressure? – that's right.
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Doctor, I picec ??
:)
Medic, stretcher! The following...
95 percent of the population with the same diagnosis would be overpopulation and technological progress. Yes for you to all foxes to clone a conveyor method takes about five years only :lol:

You just think of every positive response is not only a sign of an overvalued level of beta but also the source of its increase. Each case supersedes alpha activity, replacing it with larger waves. Each brings you closer to the level in which you were to use alpha sessions. Plus sleep mode you have suicidal... Not sickly tug of war, right?

It's one of the reasons (perhaps the main) on which the test group is by a large margin. I only have 2 positive answer:
- adhere to the principle "if you think to take something or do it well, or just give up"
and overtime (though I don't consider it overtime - I'm working on myself, so doing something just as much as I like, but is usually in the amount of work in the kitchen 12 hours a day - for me a season is the norm. Here's another from the workshop, raking and netbook will take away from the workshop...).<

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Post by Энди » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:35

к-13 wrote:Live in the city?
So I still live in Sochi and my house is remotely in the mountains and at night I have absolute silence. And when you go to work on a footpath paved with stones through the woods where there is three small waterfalls, listen to the singing of hundreds of birds welcoming a new day, probably because of this I have formed a biased attitude to Russian rock. :) And still damn something is missing...

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Post by к-13 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 13:40

Энди wrote:because of this, I have developed a biased attitude to Russian rock.
There is another sort - of Laid Back & Bob Marley (Sunshine Reggey), Bob Marley (Don't worry, be happy) and Moby (Natural Blues). Can pay tonight if need be. Although, it is possible to do a couple of sessions all week. And even one.

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Post by Стык » Thu Mar 28, 2013 14:18

:) My English not so good yet.Approximate translation))))sage wrote on the fence don't worry about Russia,"don wori",and do not worry and be happy? :)

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Post by Энди » Sun Mar 31, 2013 14:01

Listen to Deep alpha dive.mp3, amazing effect of relaxation almost as theta waves, and very bright visuals rushing.

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Post by к-13 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 17:04

Does anyone already have sustained deep relaxation with preservation of consciousness?

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Post by Вячеслав. » Sun Mar 31, 2013 17:38

к-13 wrote:does anyone already have sustained deep relaxation with preservation of consciousness?
It is difficult to relax,arrive in consciousness))) sometimes the truth fly at the most opportune moment :)

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Post by Вячеслав. » Sun Mar 31, 2013 17:51

But seriously,a lot of questions.Tried to imagine all the records and sounds.Thank you!!!Didn't think so hard,and thanks again!Actually voprosami the answers You have given,it only hurts so long to realize it.Will have to catch up on,and as (understanding) to ask questions.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Mar 31, 2013 20:54

к-13 wrote:sustainable deep relaxation with preservation of consciousness
this is not in the sense that I can't at any time fall back, worn on the head MM and can relax... in the morning all the problem... especially if the recommendation to drink water before the session-and then snot are not victorkane choke... vezuju in the morning until moved

BUT... during the day you can easily catch yourself on the desire to climb inside the carcass "warm up" - this is when the slightest desire to take a NAP appears -- here it macaleese MM and boom bonce
then stand not hunting, the buzz, the eyes are open and they are on your forehead above your eyebrows climb-a sign of Alhaji
bad on the weekdays that's the bummer, slave day-tight schedule

once fishi wore a MM and got the expansion of blood vessels in the hands -- the hands of direct burning
I tried to drag the whole body -- did not work

i.e. answering the question: Yes and no 8)

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Post by к-13 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 21:41

ЗОМБИ wrote:this is not in the sense that I can't at any time fall back, worn on the head MM and relax...
At any time with MM, probably, and I can not))) And I anchor you, and if not proctitis, then a row of two to three chain for sure will turn off (dangerous, though - there is a risk of salacity anchor - the body will attempt to match it with the stronger state - collapse, in principle, a useful thing - traumatic memories, phobias, zadvigi all sorts of them can be removed - then have the anchor to be fastened again - about five times in severe cases, so you need one as several of the anchors immediately put).

There are times when the machine is guaranteed to work? That is, when you're one hundred percent sure if I'm gonna put on the glasses and start the session, I will be sure to succeed - a deep relaxation of body and waking consciousness?
ЗОМБИ wrote:morning all problem... especially if the recommendation to drink water before the session-and then snot are not victorkane choke...
With this we already figured out - you've been a little bad and irregular sleeping, in this regard, most of the problems (including snot). You do not wonder to himself chose a nickname)))
ЗОМБИ wrote:once fishi wore a MM and got the expansion of blood vessels in the hands -- the hands of direct burning
I can assume that you vezuju finished "on a high note" - a well-heated (or Vice versa, poorly warmed up muscles before exercise). I'm in winter shape gantelkami support together with Jogging, if you give a good load and then activate anchor relaxation, the skin is burning, and bones breaking. It's okay - just lactic acid accumulated in muscles and carcass tried to wash the blood during the relaxation in the vascular system except the heart a whole bunch of valves to control flows. Yourself, then you probably do not want that then legs ached at work)))<

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Mar 31, 2013 21:51

к-13 wrote:There are times when the machine is guaranteed to work?
so no, I can 99% of to be sure, if the right moment the machine will fasten on your head, then get drunk :D

Yes vezuju at the time, finished heated...
... anyway and legs periodically still aching

and yet, if I remember, before ava was with zombies, which I photoshop celino week to the forum to insert...where his other eye was glass with dollar sign and icon of radiation on the collar... Oh, the times were :lol:

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Post by к-13 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 23:14

ЗОМБИ wrote:exactly, we can 99% percent to be sure, if the right moment the machine will fasten on your head, then get drunk :D
You ever fix this as of 3-4 anchors with verbal commands. You're with the Silva method sign, they are taught this. I can of course record the track with the settings, but could not do it, is dictatorship. I can explain, because there is nothing complicated.
ЗОМБИ wrote:Yes vezuju at the time, finished heated...
The experimenter, damn it. Maybe even at the same time try and escape, and relax? Or sleep under a barbell on the machine? :lol:
ЗОМБИ wrote:... anyway and legs periodically still aching
I 13 years ago did it pretty tight (especially running - calf then I had good heat) helps to use a muscle stimulator after exercise - 5-7 minutes by reducing the load to virtually zero and there are no consequences. To build muscle it is impossible, but to remove the effects of excessive activity is easily obtained. Or gymnastics stretch (military complexes of the floor exercise, for example), but I'm personally too lazy / time much more leaves. But if it hurts, then a little spin at medium power (within 10 minutes, without interrupting production). I still use it sometimes it helps if a sledgehammer nameless...

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Post by Энди » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:15

к-13 wrote: And I anchor you, and if not proctitis, then a row of two to three chain for sure shut off
Will a clarifying introductory anchors? I understand from today it is possible to try to engage with the anchors?

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:53

к-13 wrote:Can still simultaneously try and escape, and relax?
I don't mind, it's possible... but I'm not particularly a runner, I want like everything is running right to bet with the coach
к-13 wrote:Or gymnastics stretching
right after speakers do static stretching with a short holding time
к-13 wrote:you ever fix this as of 3-4 anchors with verbal commands. You're with the Silva method sign, they are taught this. I can explain, because there is nothing complicated.
I have a training manual from the course Silva... there is also the opposite account other anchors I don't remember... (glove anesthesia, levitation (it's already like theta), something else was).
as I understand it, the state should be anchored at the peak i.e. in the case of relaxing, or in the middle or at the end of the track ?

well your explanation on the anchors of course it would not be superfluous

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Post by к-13 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:10

Энди wrote:would Be a clarifying introductory anchors? I understand from today it is possible to try to engage with the anchors?
And I understand - need to be anchored when the state is stable and easily recalled, not on command. The week was Tuesday, so the introduction will lay out tonight.

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Post by к-13 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:25

ЗОМБИ wrote:I don't mind, it's possible... but I'm not particularly a runner, I want like everything is running right to bet with the coach
Not afraid oritse nose to the pavement on padded feet? :lol: You do not confuse physical relaxation with the resource as optimal sports spirit... by the Way, developments on this topic with MM is.
ЗОМБИ wrote:I have a training manual from the course Silva... there is also the opposite account other anchors I don't remember... (glove anesthesia, levitation (it's already like theta), something else was).
as I understand it, the state should be anchored at the peak i.e. in the case of relaxing, or in the middle or at the end of the track ?
The first post in this thread look, I gave it a rough direction, there tell.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:55

к-13 wrote:by the Way, developments on this topic with MM is.
that's fine! useful... will share in public (I know you're not greedy :) but busy... like all), or at the request in PM, when I get ripe ??
к-13 wrote:First post in this thread look
Yes, I remember, gave
к-13 wrote:night reveal.
OK, wait until the evening

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ЗОМБИ wrote:that's fine! useful... will share in public (I know you're not greedy :) but busy... like all), or at the request in PM, when I get ripe ??
All the time 8)

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Post by к-13 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 14:10

ZOMBIEyou, by the way, with "universal town" has not worked, as a former silvavoc? This chip of Robert stone, one of the main popularizers of the method (I think in the book "Heaven 911" is described). At this stage of the workshop it is possible to start :wink:

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Post by к-13 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 0:33

So, fulfill the promise tell you how to install an anchor on any resource state.

First, a little theory:

Anchoring (setting the anchor) is bondage incentive with reaction or state so that the first starts the manifestation of the second or third.

That is, in the usual language, we develop a conditional reflex - developed response to the stimulus. To clarify for those who don't remember biology from school of course, remember Pavlov - the dog several times they were given food, at the same time including the light bulb. Then light the bulb, and the food was not given, but the dog still was forcefully made saliva - developed a reflex on fiziologicheskim level light came on, then give food. It is the function of the brain - it always creates templates and patterns, to simplify their work, and does it very quickly and brand yourself. We in everyday life use of millions of such patterns and patterns - we live in the sequence of mngih clear macroscenarios, derogation from which is takes us out of equilibrium ("break pattern" for a few seconds disconnects us from the outside world, the brain calculates a new script for the custom event - for example, if you lend the man a hand for a handshake, and when it automatically stretches in response to its abruptly to pinch his nose) - walking, driving(bike), move in space, evaluate unfamiliar people and new events (automatically on the basis of similarity of some features with existing experience, for example, automatically assigned shaven young man negative of the skinhead label), accept call cell phone (or clap his pockets, hearing a melody, standing beside us on the call, sounding from somewhere else), open the lock, write and read, let salivating when you smell delicious food, you wince at the thought of lemon... Breaks into a smile, hear the melody that was playing three days ago at a party, feeling blue, remembering recently deceased dog, which grew up together... Patterns in the second sentence closer to our goal - is a spontaneous anchor resource States, we're going to put such consciously.

What can be used as anchors? Almost anything you want. In everyday life it can be all that we can see, hear, feel (both outside and inside). For example:

- a touch-specific gesture (mudra), type of breathing, a certain pose (it's hard to feel confident in a contorted position and Vice versa is an example of anchors in everyday life)...
- certain color, someone's hair, nodding head, raising eyebrows, facial expression...
- cough, intonation, specific sound...
- the chimes, a siren, a mobile phone signal, a certain tune...
- smells (perfume, coffee, bonfire, baked goods, petrol, trains, public toilet)...
- a memorable date, a favorite place...
- own name, pioneer tie...
happy clothes, the talisman...
symbol key...
- etc.

Anchors are basically divided in the following way:
- by the reaction:
-- Resource, i.e. the causing of resource state (joy, elation, calm, state of flux...)
-- Norecurse, i.e. causing pressuree state (sadness, depression, nervousness...)
according to the method of activation:
- External, i.e. incentives that come to man from external reality
-- Inside, i.e. incentives that arise in the human mind - images, thoughts, words, and symbols. For example, the symbol key.
- long reactions:
-- Short-term, i.e. those without additional recharge soon stop working.
-- Long-term, i.e. those who work through long after it was installed.

Most anchors work on the principle of the doorbell - while keeping the stimulus lasts, and status. Especially for unusual conditions, anchored to something efficiently, you need to develop at least a habit of this (it is difficult for a long time to cause a condition where the brain came a couple of times over the last few years).

What would you use anchors?
- to gain access to a resource state of its own past experience - for example, to move resources from place to place - from a place where a lot of them, where they are not enough
(remember any time in the past and repeat a few things from there - for example, if someone is afraid to fly, you can anchor joy at the sound warmed turbine engines - personally tested, works)
in order to reinforce the resource state, and have him button the quick access, for example, the symbol key
(what are we going to do in the workshop)
- in order to "annihilate" the existing Prisursky anchor (anchors collapse.)
(I've did that many times at close - have traumatic memories and pick up to it in contrast to the joyful memory is an anchor on one and on the second, and then they are activated at the same time, in the end, the emotional intensity is removed from both - a happy memory is not happy, it is more traumatic and not traumatic, but sometimes necessary several times to discharge if power is not enough joyful - powerful traumatic memory, when you collapse with a weaker opposites loses some of the emotional ties)
- to pressuremy anchor attach new resource state (paracrine)
(for example, someone vzryvaet every time the creaking door - participles on the sound emotion of joyful expectation and reduce stress levels)
- to strengthen or weaken a certain state (scaling)
(the analogy with the lever weights - two bowls - one increases as the other weakens, you can add weights-anchors and one and the other very effectively can be used in personal communication when you need to control yourself and not flame out when it doesn't, or Vice versa, to play on the anger in the right situation, or convincing a smug smile on a bad card)
- to create a new resource status of several components (integration anchors)
(for example, you can try to combine anchor deep relaxation and strong joy - very interesting effect :wink: )
- to create a sequence of resource States (chain anchors)
(for example, to use anger as an anchor for peace and fear, as an anchor for a productive but relaxed state - in an emergency it will make You much more efficient)
- and so on.
(applications can really come up with a lot)

Anchoring resource States:
- Log in to the resource state - for this stage we use a mind-machine, so as deeply to relax. Before enabling you can say to yourself "now I am well and efficiently relax"(this is the additional step of anchoring we accustom the body to do what we told him)
- At the maximum state set anchorfor example, for a few seconds, connect the ring and thumb fingers of your left hand, imagine any color, lettering, or symbol (for example, orange crocodile with wings of dragonflies), mentally say the code word, begin to breathe in an unusual way or make a few times the movement of the eyes. You can reinforce the anchor verbal commands (every time I do so-and-so, I plunged again into this state, in the alpha it works especially well), but not necessarily.
- Remove the anchor (release the fingers, clear internal screen and stop talking with me).
- Exit to the neutral state (not necessarily immediately, wait until the end of the session).
- Check the armatureexactly replicating it and noticing how it changes your state. It all depends on the load and plasticity of the brain - someone gets it the first time, someone needs to repeat five times, but the work is all - pure physiology.

Now You know how to monitor the resource state.

PS: If you use anchors, they are "overwritten" - their efficiency is gradually reduced - as in the collapse, but much weaker - meeting with the involuntary prisurskii anchors which we should gradually to get rid of (they are rarely strong enough to fully deactivate the anchor, but significantly complicate our life) - so you need to give several types of anchors on one resource state, and periodically reinforce them at every opportunity.

Content (anchoring, strengthening) of the anchor resource status:
Every time you log in the resource state (accidentally or deliberately), at the high end of state play their anchors. Create anchors for all the useful States.

By the way, the users of the system BJ 1.0-2.x probably learned in the anchoring module "archive state" - it uses the same principle as agoritsa on the team and the name.<

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Post by Энди » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:10

к-13 wrote:start to breathe in an unusual way
If I no longer appreciate the theta state than alpha, is it worth spending such valuable anchor as deep breathing alpha?

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