Advice from Andrei Patrushev

[Алехандро]

Sorry that someone else's theme interfering, but I note that Carr says is correct about the monster in the stomach. You need to work only with it, at least stimulus, at least psychologically. This dinosaur is just not going anywhere (the same problem)

Yes, I understand, but then, when the "domestics", and so seizes still occasionally frustrated.
Possible, constantly read the book, the same effects makes you tired and stops working over time.

[Андрей Патрушев]

Alejandro
The main question to stop Smoking - not "how to quit Smoking?", and "what will You do when stop Smoking?".
For example, I smoked since the sixth grade (we in the yard of the company that was "cool") and 1995 - that is ~20 years. In the last five years have switched to a pack a day, but began to feel that the health of "went", and in the morning mouth dreary feeling....
Around 1993 came the samizdat materials on NLP and I bought everything we had in the Burg to get it, only because trying on myself santiaguero the technique of reframing (according to the book "Frogs into princes" by R. Bandler and John.Grinder), got amazing effective results when solving some personal problems.
Then came the idea to try this technique for Smoking cessation. The technique is essentially very simple, is a certain understanding of the subconscious, but it requires a very exact language, and what You want, not what you don't want. In General, it's the first time and very easy (Smoking is absolutely not like). But as a result at work I fell out of the social life of the men's team, which went mainly in the Smoking room. In addition, it became more and more tired as all the time spent on a job (very hard in terms of mental activities). Tried it just stand among smokers, but "with oars by horse - like a fool..." and unwittingly lit another cigarette. When he reached the bundle, decided to repeat the procedure to include the clause for social contacts. Again stopped for quite a long time. Then my friend died ridiculous. I drank at the Wake and lit another cigarette. After some time spent with a "chistyakovoy". Again had quite a long time. Went with friends on Shikotan. The weather was so awful that basically sat in the camp and the IOC in tents - again the aerial (although it was very difficult - all fucking around raw ). Then, after analyzing the whole story, got some kind of understanding that Smoking served some sort of important to me needwhile doing it quick and simple. Following the agreement with the subconscious mind was already with a request to find a way(s) to it is not less effective served the needs that was served to me Smoking did it is at least just as quickly and easily as Smoking. Another important criterion is the "safe"but it is automatically taken into account in the structure santiaguero reframing.
The result was (and continues to be) quite interesting from different points of view. First, I have not smoked for ~20 years, and secondly, I began to notice that sometimes I'm pretty deep (not to shout) immersed (for 5-7 minutes) in a relatively easy-to TRANS (good monitoring environment from the point of view of security - a couple of times made sure that the speed of reaction to danger, even higher than in the normal state) in which there is a certain creative work - from ordinary dreams to ponder the urgent tasks and problems, and thirdly, perhaps, since that time, started a personal growth, in which I completely changed his "fate", both professionally and personally (well, it's probably due to the special described in the book, the procedure of establishing a SR "on the machine")...<

[Алехандро]

Andrewthanks for the reply!

I'll try to study this book about 6-step reframing, the more that I have seen mention of it when I read Your series of articles "the Seventh sense".
And difficult technique to master, do you think? A lot of the time it will take? How much You practiced, before realizing that works?

... I think I have a somewhat similar situation about a service what needs Smoking. I call it boredom, but perhaps it's not boredom at all, but, for example,
the lack of communication with loved ones in spirit\views people, irritation from the sometimes pointless work, small room for some creativity, the desire to expand social circle... who knows, quite possible but where did it all take? ))
As for me, these problems in Russia, especially in the metropolis, every second, if not first, but why is Smoking not all


Tell me, do You know what needs to be served to You Smoking, which now helps to ensure a light trance, or rather the awareness of responses to these needs in a trance?!

Still it was scary. And suddenly You are in a trance immerse yourself when you're, like, driving!

[Андрей Патрушев]

A difficult technique to master, do you think? A lot of the time it will take? How much You practiced, before realizing that works?

Those who have well-developed alpha - elementary to master. This methodology does not involve training either works or it doesn't. I have worked directly (though about the alpha then I don't even know ), these "things", that it was noticeable the next day. It is very important to perform all steps.

Tell me, do You know what needs to be served to You Smoking, which now helps to ensure a light trance, or rather the awareness of responses to these needs in a trance?!

What is the use???
However, in the method and this is provided, but not always feasible. Sometimes the subconscious blocks straight answers, probably for our own good...

[Андрей Патрушев]

Still it was scary. And suddenly You are in a trance immerse yourself when you're, like, driving!

It is impossible, on the basis of the principles of the subconscious. I wrote that security is inherent in the structure of FR. By the way, there were a couple of situations when I'm in this condition spontaneously performed the action kept me, at least, health. For example, in the tram, I switched from one place to another, and in the place where I first stood at the next intersection was hit by a truck....

[Алехандро]

...either works or it doesn't.

The authors suggest that not all can act?
Or question the right equipment?

[Алехандро]

It is impossible, on the basis of the principles of the subconscious. I wrote that security is inherent in the structure of FR. By the way, there were a couple of situations when I'm in this condition spontaneously performed the action kept me, at least, health. For example, in the tram, I switched from one place to another, and in the place where I first stood at the next intersection was hit by a truck....

What the movie "final Destination" but... well, all's well that well...

[Андрей Патрушев]

the Authors suggest that not all can act?
Or question the right equipment?

No, Not in this case... I Just have encountered many times that people (mostly with arts education, and, especially, psychologists ), somehow, instead of "stupidly" and literally to comply with clear and precise instructions, all incredibly complicated - give a kind of mystical sense, magnify insignificant details and ignore the essential points...

[Алехандро]

no, Not in this case... I Just have encountered many times that people, somehow, clear and precise instructions, instead of "stupidly" and literally perform all incredibly complicated - give a kind of mystical sense, magnify insignificant details and ignore the essential points...

Clear! Will try.
Such a request to the subconscious: "Find quick easy and secure way to restore power, carried out with interest and pleasure to spare time out of curiosity and finding the new in dialogue with others and with yourself anytime and anywhere. This method effectively serves all my needs that were previously connected with Smoking!", sufficiently clear and full, do You think?

[Андрей Патрушев]

Alejandro
I think that you first need a book to read...

[Алехандро]

Andrewand how do You feel about Zelandu and his "Transerfing"?
He, judging by the comments on koob.ru and other libraries that are part of the hardcore fans for whom he was the Messiah, some of the haters who almost think he is Satan and part of the skeptics
who consider his methods of cheating. About the ratio I can not judge. Seeland's also about NLP, in part, according to the annotations writes...
Funny that koob.ru there is even a book "Anti-Zeland, or on a freebie and vinegar sweet" and its about a holivar in comments played out (quite funny that one lady declares that it is Satan, on the grounds that "Seeland" in tune "Voland")

What is Your opinion about his writings?!

[Андрей Патрушев]

Alejandro
I don't like it - not too sophisticated and bleak. I like Simoron of Bulanov, although essentially the same (it is even possible that transerfing - this is some personal and considerably reduced intercreate of Simoron, as it came much later). Both systems have very little relation to NLP. Just NLP in recent years - is a bogey that knocked all that is possible. For example, the processing technology of the plebos (brainwashing) has been the subtleties perfected in ancient Rome... the Russian people are accustomed to, that everything in the media criticized - it should be fine, so the authors (not only Zeland) trying, somehow, to lean on "brand"...

[Алехандро]

I don't like it - not too sophisticated and bleak. I like Simoron of Bulanov, but essentially the same.

Found a few books authored Burlina and with the word "Simoron" in the title.

Do you know this is like the Foundation or not: "P. Burlan - Simoron first hand, or How to achieve what cannot be achieved"?

The ideas of these methods are using in practice? How do You think working or so "for overall development"?

...for Example, the processing technology of the plebos (brainwashing) has been the subtleties perfected in ancient Rome... the Russian people are accustomed to, that everything in the media criticized - it should be fine, so the authors (not only Zeland) trying, somehow, to lean on "brand"...

For me right now, so the correlation is exactly the opposite - that the show is at the fed. channels for and voted 86%, then you and krymnash "revival" and "damned Pindos, dream to capture all of our oil" (probably to drink) . It's in the 90's mailbox, no one believed, but right now closure of propaganda in the minds IMHO

[Андрей Патрушев]

Alejandro
Yes, Simoron and the use of children taught.
"P. Burlan - Simoron first hand, or How to achieve what cannot be achieved"? - a good book. Burlakov all the books contain a basis.

[Алехандро]

Alejandro
The main question to stop Smoking - not "how to quit Smoking?", and "what will You do when stop Smoking?".
For example, I smoked since the sixth grade (we in the yard of the company that was "cool") and 1995 - that is ~20 years. In the last five years have switched to a pack a day, but began to feel that the health of "went", and in the morning mouth dreary feeling....
Around 1993 came the samizdat materials on NLP and I bought everything we had in the Burg to get it, only because trying on myself santiaguero the technique of reframing (according to the book "Frogs into princes" by R. Bandler and John.Grinder), got amazing effective results when solving some personal problems.
Then came the idea to try this technique for Smoking cessation. The technique is essentially very simple, is a certain understanding of the subconscious, but it requires a very exact language, and what You want, not what you don't want. In General, it's the first time and very easy (Smoking is absolutely not like). But as a result at work I fell out of the social life of the men's team, which went mainly in the Smoking room. In addition, it became more and more tired as all the time spent on a job (very hard in terms of mental activities). Tried it just stand among smokers, but "with oars by horse - like a fool..." and unwittingly lit another cigarette. When he reached the bundle, decided to repeat the procedure to include the clause for social contacts. Again stopped for quite a long time. Then my friend died ridiculous. I drank at the Wake and lit another cigarette. After some time spent with a "chistyakovoy". Again had quite a long time. Went with friends on Shikotan. The weather was so awful that basically sat in the camp and the IOC in tents - again the aerial (although it was very difficult - all fucking around raw ). Then, after analyzing the whole story, got some kind of understanding that Smoking served some sort of important to me need, while doing it quickly and easily. Following the agreement with the subconscious mind was already with a request to find a way(s) to not less effectively served the needs that was served to me Smoking did it is at least just as quickly and easily as Smoking. Another important criterion is "safe", but it is automatically taken into account in the structure santiaguero reframing.
The result was (and continues to be) quite interesting from different points of view. First, I have not smoked for ~20 years, and secondly, I began to notice that sometimes I'm pretty deep (not to shout) immersed (for 5-7 minutes) in a relatively easy-to TRANS (good monitoring environment from the point of view of security - a couple of times made sure that the speed of reaction to danger, even higher than in the normal state) in which there is a certain creative work - from ordinary dreams to ponder the urgent tasks and problems, and thirdly, perhaps, since that time, started a personal growth, in which I completely changed his "fate", both professionally and personally (well, it's probably due to the special described in the book, the procedure of establishing a SR "on the machine")...

Andrew,
a book I enjoyed reading (though the version of that koob.ru Yes, and in other places very sloppy published in the sense that the translation is crooked, missing words, sometimes the text is cut off by dots, some where, the particle "not" is clearly the meaning of the extra, and somewhere on the contrary is not enough, often confused word endings, affixes... in short I have the feeling that either the paper text was crooked, the recognized and manually edited, either at the stage of translation, the translator underpaid you have to think about it and cognitive strain... but overall, it is still clear what he wanted to say to the authors). Very interesting. I'll try FR in the near future.

Now I better understand what You want to say, when you were describing your process of quitting.
Just do not take in the sense:
in SHR, however, expected in the last step of the algorithm, the check for "environmentally friendly" or, mathematically speaking, the consistency of those new ways to meet what
the hidden needs of the individual, which previously were realized through Smoking, OTHER NEW WAYS that creative part of our subconscious generates, and that part of the subconscious that is responsible for pattern of behavior "Smoking" takes. That is, as I understand it, consciousness in the last step should make sure that NEW WAYS to serve those needs that were previously served by non-Smoking, arrange all the parts of the subconscious and the subconscious in General, i.e. these methods the idea is not to lead to contradictions in the satisfaction of other needs of the subconscious (ie, as You have, for example, the need for communication in the team, need to survive the loss of a friend, the need to fight the boredom during rainy weather in the campaign, etc.).

Then what could go wrong?
After all, we just ask that part of yourself that is "responsible" for Smoking to enter with the consciousness into contact, and then regardless of whether it opens the consciousness of her "motives" Smoking area, "go" to another creative part of the subconscious, to create new ways to meet all the "Smoking" needs and to take at least 3 of them, continue to take responsibility for the use of new methods and in the final test do you mind if the rest of the subconscious...
It turns out You didn't do this check for congruence at the end or just maybe, the creative part generates, as the part that was responsible for the Smoking took for himself not the most, how shall I say, the best effective ways to replace Smoking by something else ie. those methods that prevent all the same in other aspects of life? But then the dilemma does the subconscious mind in General what he wants to do for man on the totality of the needs?
While this is obviously a contradiction, because the millions of people communicating in teams and ride in a not always successful campaigns and there at the funeral, but never smoked them in the head does not come, one can be connected?!

Also wanted to ask. What if at some step, the part of the subconscious that is responsible for Smoking or some thread the other part of the subconscious clearly speaks through nonverbal cues that he does not want to communicate with the consciousness or will not take any new methods or sends contradictory "Yes"and"no" signals "the body" in response to different questions? How then to proceed?

To me all this is important in order to adapt and react when I try to "re-form" for yourself!

Maybe You know of some practitioners who can use hypnosis or even how to hold the patient in this way? It is desirable in Moscow.

And, by the way, I separately looked at a number of sites in NLP. So there, when explained FR Step 6 "Environmental audit" is placed before Step 5, "accepting responsibility for new ways".
This, in my opinion, has its own logic because we ask "Smoking" part of the subconscious to accept responsibility ONLY FOR THOSE which have already passed the "test" all the other parts.
What do You think?<

[Андрей Патрушев]

Alejandro
SHR just does not work, if you do not do environmental inspection.
R. Bandler is the more "rogue". Most likely, he put environmental screening to the end of the procedure, on the basis of "good cause" and not due to mathematical logic. In addition, this issue (of order) in the book he is reviewing, but repeatedly emphasizes in the text - do what works for You.
Do not idealize the subconscious (as well as demonized). The same R. Bandler once wrote: "Our Subconscious mind acts only in accordance with our conscious representations". In addition, when we "turn on" the paradigm of parts of the personality (it should be noted, nothing is real except our mental constructions are not established), then the load get all the relevant logic. In this case, one of the consequences part can not and do not have to know all about the whole. Just this model allows us to somehow structure your experience and more or less provide a systematic approach. There are other equally effective model. For example, some people simply say to yourself: "Stop fooling around, drop it!".
"One cannot embrace the unembraceable" - cannot immediately account for all the nuances, especially in the absence of previous experience of introspection. For example, I before did not even know that Smoking provides some socialization (and these concepts were not - I was just a Soviet policeman )... What You perceive as failure, I take it as experience and feedback. If I didn't smoke for two years after another FR, this for me is definitely a strong achievement. You seem to be the essence of SHR did not catch - he's not forcing You to smoke or not to smoke, and provides new ways and freedom of choice. At the same Shikotan I had extremely limited choices in terms to do anything else. In a situation with death of a friend, most likely, the key words were: "simple" and "fast"...
By the way, there is a whole book called Reframing by the same authors. There SHR is described a little differently, plus the description of other interesting and useful technologies.

And at the same time it is obvious a contradiction, because the millions of people communicating in teams and ride in a not always successful campaigns and there at the funeral, but never smoked them in the head does not come, one can be connected?!

I honestly do not understand what You mean by that. Everyone is different (thank God!). Everyone has their own habits and ways of perceiving the world. If a person has never smoked, then why would he suddenly start (this, by the way, not quite simply - the body actively resists )?

also wanted to ask. What if at some step, the part of the subconscious that is responsible for Smoking or some thread the other part of the subconscious clearly speaks through nonverbal cues that he does not want to communicate with the consciousness or will not take any new methods or sends contradictory "Yes"and"no" signals "the body" in response to different questions? How then to proceed?

Well, firstly, You describe the situation when a part has already started communication. Secondly, the book is a detailed and humorous discussion.<

[Алехандро]

Andrew,

thank you! I will try the method.

what You perceive as failure, I take it as experience and feedback. If I didn't smoke for two years after another FR, this for me is definitely a strong achievement.

Well, first off, what makes You think that I perceive it as a failure? If 2 years of not Smoking, it is a great achievement, I would like that!
"Failure", which I used, is just a way of nominalization, it should be the same as it is called, what happened.
Besides, You hardly set a goal not to smoke for a while or not to smoke, say, 2 years when I first tried FR. I'm guessing You wanted to quit once and for all, as I do now. So from the point of view of formal logic-conscious, this is definitely "failure" in relation to the stated goals, but not "bad" in terms of the result as takogogo. Another thing is to take this "setback" as the final failure or as a rather successful attempt that can be improved, if you make changes... So in the word "failure" for me, there is no definitive negative, "bad" is NOT a "complete failure", in this sense, I, however, as the authors indicate in the book do not agree. Well, God bless him, it's just words, they have a lot to write in order to convey all the shades of meaning... I say "partially successful attempt"

You seem to be the essence of SHR did not catch - he's not forcing You to smoke or not to smoke, and provides new ways and freedom of choice. At the same Shikotan I had extremely limited choices in terms to do anything else. In a situation with death of a friend, most likely, the key words were: "simple" and "fast"...

I think on the contrary, the variability of behavior that a person can give himself through the FR, I was very well caught, even identified for yourself in the book...
Just deliberately, I find that hard to believe until you try it sounds like fiction

I have realized that the key changes for You between the first attempts and far the most successful attempt to change his pattern of behavior in relation to Smoking
was that the request to find a new, equally effective ways of satisfying certain needs (that were previously associated with Smoking) You added "installation",
to these methods was to satisfy the need quick and simpleand it apparently gave the result. Did I understand You correctly?

I've been wondering, how do You think - will again if similar circumstances when well, very little options of what you can do to to do
(as, for example, You Shikotan due to bad weather and other specific conditions), and the implicit need not "sleep", if You can keep yourself from Smoking?!
Maybe You have already had the opportunity to test it?
Understand that after 20 years of "not Smoking", the question sounds silly, but nevertheless...

AndrewI'm sure you know that I don't just "get" about Your experience, and try to find a "formula" of the request to the subconscious, so it is important the details!
It is no wonder that in the book it says that a very important precision of language in internal dialogue with the subconscious.

Well, firstly, You describe the situation when a part has already started communication. Secondly, the book is a detailed and humorous discussion.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that the authors suggest in these cases or to ask the subconscious for forgiveness for the fact that the consciousness is insufficiently respected him\valued before, or "collide" on it,
saying, say, "how are you, stupid, don't want to take more effective ways to meet the needs for which you advocate?" or "do you want to spend the extra energy on the satisfaction of needs through the old way when you can make a new one?" (this is not a quote, but that's the implication).

Thought can You tell me what are the other options in the case of "stuck" on a particular step?!<

[Андрей Патрушев]

I have realized that the key changes for You between the first attempts and far the most successful attempt to change his pattern of behavior in relation to Smoking
was that the request to find new, more effective ways of satisfying certain needs (that were previously associated with Smoking) You added "installation",
these methods satisfy the need for a quick and simple and it apparently gave the result. Did I understand You correctly?

Actually, I didn't bother then the exact wording, but simply asked the creative part to take into account all the significant moments that led me back to Smoking, to exclude them in the new ways of behavior.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that the authors suggest in these cases or to ask the subconscious for forgiveness for the fact that the consciousness is insufficiently respected him\valued before, or "collide" on it,
saying, say, "how are you, stupid, don't want to take more effective ways to meet the needs for which you advocate?" or "do you want to spend the extra energy on the satisfaction of needs through the old way when you can make a new one?" (this is not a quote, but that's the implication).
Thought can You tell me what are the other options in the case of "stuck" on a particular step?!

Again, never these parts would not communicate with me in consciousness, but I just thanked them for their response and said that I trust them completely to carry out all the work on a subconscious level.
Don't know if that also depended on me, but I've worked with other people, they also never had a direct answer (except in one case when people just openly lied). However, all the work went well on a subconscious level, with good stable results. Often, even people not noticed any signals, although I could see and if the man agreed to continue to work, trust me "conversation" with the subconscious, the work also took place and ended very successfully.

I've been wondering, how do You think - will again if similar circumstances when well, very little options of what you can do to to do
(as, for example, You Shikotan due to bad weather and other specific conditions), and the implicit need not "sleep", if You can keep yourself from Smoking?!
Maybe You have already had the opportunity to test it?
Understand that after 20 years of "not Smoking", the question sounds silly, but nevertheless...

No, it is now unlikely. Yes, it immediately once it was clear to me after the last time. A couple of times I dreamt that I smoked, but did not receive from this pleasure, plus it was such a shame that I blew it... Apparently, there was some additional work... Now I'm never bored. How can I miss you when the shoulders have such a wonderful device... <

[b612]

There is one idea, how to get rid of Smoking.
Each Tim has his own special so-called "pain" point
getting into that engenders an INSTINCTIVE AVOIDANCE, very hard.
If it is correct to associate Smoking with her, it should work effectively and quickly, albeit with a load on the psyche.

[Алехандро]

And again, never these parts would not communicate with me in consciousness, but I just thanked them for their response and said that I trust them completely to carry out all the work on a subconscious level.
Don't know if that also depended on me, but I've worked with other people, they also never had a direct answer (except in one case when people just openly lied). However, all the work went well on a subconscious level, with good stable results. Often, even people not noticed any signals, although I could see and if the man agreed to continue to work, trust me "conversation" with the subconscious, the work also took place and ended very successfully.

Andrewbut signs of the responses for "Yes"\"no" You are still in consciousness had to obtain through non-verbal signals, or how to go further...

Consent to direct communication with the consciousness, not necessarily, I agree, video information about service needs or contradictions to other parts (on the 6-th step), respectively, too, but without a definition "Yes""no" signals is still not enough...
moreover, according to the book, there first test was one type of kinesthetic signal (the pit in the stomach) increased which was supposed to mean "Yes" and then "Yes" it at some point suddenly began to take relaxation of the body, and then on the 6th step, when some other part of his subconscious seems to have objected to the new methods and signals of that objection before the muscle tension around the eyes, and then the pulsation in the palms, then hike and increase sensitivity to, as they say, "separate the wheat from the chaff"... each part can of course be your non-verbal signal, but I'm not clear from the book whether THE SAME part of the subconscious mind or personality (although the authors stress that this conditional concept of separation into parts) to be changed during the SR "designation" for "YES" and "NO"?!
In your experience it happens? And if there is a reaction as if multiple points of the body or even across multiple channels (eg ripple some muscle, plus the mental image),
then it is necessary for each signal to ask a question to "define" and make sure that this is not a random reaction?


In General, most will not consider apparently, tomorrow I will try on myself
As You, Andrewthere say: "Practice - criterion of truth!" <

[Андрей Патрушев]

Andrew, but signs of the responses for "Yes"\"no" You are still in consciousness had to obtain through non-verbal signals, or how to go further...

Yes, of course, but in the context of SR, "to interact in the mind" means only the "normal" verbal communication.

In your experience it happens? And if there is a reaction as if multiple points of the body or even across multiple channels (eg ripple some muscle, plus the mental image),
then it is necessary for each signal to ask a question to "define" and make sure that this is not a random reaction?

Yes, of course - very often, as they say. Especially in the beginning. But elections here are a few: ask - the same part signals or not; if not, thank you all and promise that all opinions will be taken into consideration later and ask not to intervene; if the same, then you can also thank (you can creep up - here is what a mighty part of that might as many signals feeding in different systems - part as children ) to select another signal, which is convenient for You to work or continue to work with the same signal. I have, in General, as in the book, was a lot of signals that the poll was simply an expression of enthusiasm for the process. It is necessary to use common sense and to communicate effectively with the parts, playing the famous children's game "Yes-no". A simple algorithm: it is the same part or not - calibration, if not - thanks, but sorry - with you later, if the same - thank you (you can change the signal calibration), but continue... Don't worry that the signals will be too much. Yes, every signal it would be better to mention at least spaceboy, but not to be sprayed and to move in the direction You want.
But at the stage of environmental audits need to be extremely careful and patient...

As You, Andrei, saying: "Practice - criterion of truth!"

No, it's not me - it's grandpa Lenin said so, but I like it... <

[Дмитрий Т]

Good afternoon.
1) But wouldn't it be more effective to use headphones with bone conduction? because the Tomatis method they just used - it seems to enhance
Has in mind in two variants - easy listening CDs and MM

2) Stumbled upon the TANK method is a Method of bioacoustics correction is sensory stimulation of the brain sounds, formed on the basis of EEG in real time, to activate the mechanisms of self-regulation (using "Synchro-S")

http://synchros.ru/information/how-it-works/
http://sinkor.ru/bak.php

Maybe have you encountered with this method? Write that the effective Tomatis, of course, with MM has not been compared.
Vishki in back when.
Interested in the application itself, and possibly in parallel with MM.
Although it may not make sense.

[Андрей Патрушев]

1) But wouldn't it be more effective to use headphones with bone conduction? because the Tomatis method they just used - it seems to enhance
Has in mind in two variants - easy listening CDs and MM

1. Does not happen headphone with bone conduction. Bone conduction is a biological phenomenon. With any headphones, this phenomenon takes place. There are special headphones for people with hearing impairments (mostly related to the eardrum), where there are special vibrators. These vibrators are perfectly conducting low frequency, but very bad high....
2. "Impossible to grasp"...

[Милая]

Andrei Patrushev

And what frequencies the brain works, aspiring to mindfulness? It is clear that the degree of awareness may be different, but what frequencies it was coming? What disc is best to use for raising awareness?

[Андрей Патрушев]

And on what frequencies the brain works, aspiring to mindfulness?

awareness is a very vague concept... for Example the alpha frequency to provide communication between the conscious and the unconscious, between mind and body. People that are in the "alpha state" as it has two foci of attention simultaneously - internal and external. Thus, there is reason to assume that described by different authors fashionable "mindfulness" is, with high probability, and is the "alpha-state".