Sedona Method

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Andrei Patrushev Hello!
request to you at the Sedona method,if possible of course
Well I got stuck, and my brain is stuck on release of desires-Chapter 5. the liberation from desire of change. I don't know the questions to ask.
in translation for example says:now think about a particular person, place or event that is causing You unpleasant feelingswho would You like to change...And I think that in the English version(which I had to track down)is written not on feelings but on the fact that specifically want to change.
Then the first question in the book:would You be Able to let go of the desire to change them?(what feelings?)Could you let go of wanting to change it? (to change this? that is the situation) but some of the options correctly? and so the whole list of questions in this Chapter. I them this way and that, well, I don't understand what the question is!but the question is :What if I have spent my whole life trying to develop this degree of stuckness or to create this degree of difficulty? What is this ?! I tried to ask myself all these questions and I think all 3 series are on the circle:
What do you feel?(still want to change?)
Would you be able to let go? Release? When? and AGAIN, What do you feel? only in different variations, etc. or not? I let go, the desire to change something or the desire to desire. here again, confused If you have a list of these questions in a more meaningful(specific) form, please share!I still decided to go ahead and after days of fighting I even managed to understand the release of the four requirements,however, after some personalization of questions,and then the brain began to strain trying to understand what to ask and I lost the thought and feeling that same release
But it really helped with your version-if I can allow-
Does anybody but me have the feeling some putinesti questions?
In the Chapter about releasing the basic requirements for STEP 3 it is written:Ask yourself one of the three questions:
• Do I want (approval, control, security or freedom)?
• Could(La) would I make the needs (approval, control, security or freedom)?
• Could(La) would I need to let go (in approval, control, security or freedom)?

and why only one and what to do with the rest? They're different in meaning!
Please tell me what you can by asking questions,and I so long to be picked avail can,and in English I'm afraid not master.

Thank you<

[Гульнара]

The answer for a Rookie
Every time You get the feeling that You don't understand something, first release your desire to understand. Every time Hale asked the question on a retreat about something strange - it offers first have to let go of this desire....
There will be more questions. I will try to answer based on your experience - 4 retreat and two levels of training as a coach in the Sedona Method.

[Ильхом Т.]

As far as I understood at the time that you are studying psychology: issues are not important, they only help to realize that perhaps we need to let go of emotions, and the further actions depend on other factors. So don't get hung up on issues - just let go, but if you can't do or a feeling that you do not understand how this "release", it is likely that you are not ready for some reason (for example, lack courage and need to practice on strong emotions).
Attempts rashnit questions is sometimes a consequence of internal fear. Then the man tries to convince himself what he did not understand, so as not to admit that he succumb to the fear.

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Ilkhom, I agree and disagree...
At some point, really, issues don't matter.
What You wrote: "issues don't matter, they only help to realize that perhaps we need to let go of emotions" is what, in my opinion, is of great importance! How can they not be of value if they help to understand something?
The inability to let go of anything depends very often from the mental habits. You can talk about unavailability, but it seems to me, this is not always the answer. It makes sense to help people to go beyond these habits. That's what makes Hale on their retreats.

[Ильхом Т.]

How can they not be of value if they help to understand something?

I mean that the words are references to reality, as well as questions calling for paying attention to how things work in any aspect of reality. At first they help stop sumatoha in the head and set a goal "what to learn", but then - wouldn't it be easier to go directly to the real situation, if you already know what you need to know?

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...but then wouldn't it be easier to go directly to the real situation, if you already know what you need to know?

At some point, really, issues don't matter. I wrote about it in the previous answer

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Oh thank you good people that responded, I gave up!
_____Thanks for the advice to let go of the desire to understand, I do too often it is obsession that will understand, will lay it out for you and then everything will become clear and probably not terrible....when you know what to do . Maybe I have to do to start with obsessions anything or anyone to change or get?
______I even because of this 'misunderstanding' at the time, ceased to do and only recently started again. Decided to just not work , may need to take a break?
______Since then ,even 2 times got to let go, very violently giggled and poured for half an hour:-) is it? Because no other sensations or feelings I had, actually.
_____But now progress has stopped, do not get it! Sensations such as if I were bursting with energy and liberation, not even the head starts to hurt. No changes or sensations only occasionally face begins to inflate the smile, well, maybe a nervous chuckle. I decided that maybe this is "a little bit let go'?
______Of the other oddities I can say that asking the question - could you... my brain does NOT answer the question in most cases, maybe it has to do with what is written Ilkhom? Also a bit annoying that trying to focus on the question(emotions) which are going to let go, my brain is doing the opposite, that is, there is confusion, thoughts go immediately in the opposite direction and I lose the plot. Does that happen often ? As you had when you started? What you can do to stay conscious ? Or all the beginners such problems? Why the brain as if they close their eyes?
______But unexpectedly have not even started doing anything yet, just looking at the questions and let go of Unbelief and Despair not even utter a word yet. But viewsnice, acute emotions can't let go , the brain as I wrote above, as if turning a blind eye.
______Tell me and actually really on the book or learn most , to torment still goes to the professionals? Because, you see, failure as it is not conducive to optimism. It seemed so simple....

'The inability to let go of anything depends very often from the mental habits.'

can it be called in my case a habit , to shrug off emotions switch quickly to another to forget, I sometimes don't even realize this, and do so automatically.
Sorry if it's too stuck or not clearly written, sometimes it is important to get what confident word from experienced people.
thank you very much for complicity!<

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but then - wouldn't it be easier to go directly to the real situation, if you already know what you need to know?[/quote]


and then to find out? sorry I did not understand. could you explain?

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But now the progress has stopped, do not get it! Sensations such as if I were bursting with energy and liberation, not even the head starts to hurt. No changes or sensations only occasionally face begins to inflate the smile, well, maybe a nervous chuckle. I decided that maybe this is "a little bit let go'?

To let go is not a mystical or "esoteric" act. Release = realize + accept

appears distracted, thoughts go immediately in the opposite direction and I lose the plot. Does that happen often ? As you had when you started? What you can do to stay conscious ? Or all the beginners such problems? Why the brain as if they close their eyes?

it's totally normal manifestation of the mechanism of the resistance to change. The algorithm here is very simple: make it "feeling that is lost the idea is" to let go of my desire to do anything about it.

______But unexpectedly have not even started doing anything yet, just looking at the questions and let go of Unbelief and Despair not even utter a word yet. But viewsnice, acute emotions can't let go , the brain as I wrote above, as if turning a blind eye.
______Tell me and actually really on the book or learn most , to torment still goes to the professionals? Because, you see, failure as it is not conducive to optimism. It seemed so simple....

I started working on the book itself. Very helpful audio course. But it is in English. Then when I got to Dvoskina his retreats realized that the book is ABC. It is very important to master. To go to a specialist or not is a matter of choice. I like the fact that the use of this technique is not tying my clients to me. It's important to me. Some of them after participating in the training and master-group come to me once in half a year, when there is the illusion of "plugging". Most often it is due to the fact that over time a person cleans the entire upper "husk" and starts out "material" root of the program. About her Dvoskin only last year began to talk and give information on their spiritual retreats.

'Inability to let go of anything depends very often from the mental habits.'

can it be called in my case a habit , to shrug off emotions switch quickly to another to forget, I sometimes don't even realize this, and do so automatically.

Yes, this is one of the mental habits.

I am now preparing a number of materials by the method. you can find me through my fb page Self-Coaching, and from there go to my website. the people there shared his experience of participation in my master-group Method, there will soon be more opportunities for communication. so - welcome!<

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Release = realize + accept

Here to realize and accept the level of mind and logic, I can and I do , but I think probably the logical acceptance is not enough. After all, you can 'make' some thoughts about that , Yes indeed, what is really there.......but agree deep down with certain things , aspects of the event well, nothing is impossible.....

Very helpful audio course.

I could try if not too abstruse language, and if this audio course you can find for free?Your site is already found, be sure to read. Thanks for the replies. Sometimes when he is blunt, a stranger, even an obvious answer well very illuminating, and just wonder how I do it !

starting to get the "material" root of the program.

Oh, that is sooooo long? Why is it so strange, the wrong end? Can do and need to start with the roots, since it is now revealed......

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but agree deep down with certain things , aspects of the event well, nothing is impossible.....

when we use the method we are talking about full acceptance. Dvoskin recommends 30 days to work with one purpose, for example, to study different aspects of resistance to this goal. During this work, and POPs up all that "not accepted".

Oh, that is sooooo long? Why is it so strange, the wrong end? Can do and need to start with the roots, since it is now revealed......

in my view, the method is not a course of tablets - propyl and forgotten. it is a daily practice that gradually changes from the point of view of speed and depth of development issues. Hale says sometimes: "some questions "realisitic" all day (relationships with parents, for example)" When I first time the process was delayed by almost 5 hours - I almost didn't notice. Just after the process in this area of life very much has changed.
Good luck with the practice!

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but then - wouldn't it be easier to go directly to the real situation, if you already know what you need to know?

and then to find out? sorry I did not understand. could you explain?

Questions aimed at the recognition of something(also rhetorical). Here there was a view that speech issues can be more than a link in paying attention to their own willingness to let go.

And what about the care, attention, thoughts during release - this is a classic example protective mecanismo personality.

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I certainly understand that to deal with the years of accumulated emotional garbage for once not to be and we all, if we begin to do anything for this, only then when the load is too great and presses. And yet it is a pity that it's not easy. I think that like me, few will be willing(ready)to devote SO much time into this. Still, still the technique initially seemed a lot easier than it turned out. Mentally flipping through the amount of work I need to do, I involuntarily lose my powers of optimism and think that the task of a lifetime. Besides, I'm probably one of those people who have resistance to what you can imagine, controls almost every bunch


Thanks for the link, very interesting. As it turns out need to know much about myself, that would at least like to understand where the Shoe pinches. But mother dear! I is all are composed of solid protective mechanisms and they can control my behavior and reflexes! Oh I will never find emotional freedom with such a "historic"set. And about the willingness to let go I guess to me it is too early to say, because the result is more like vizivanie

Thank you for the answers, third-party review helped to look into the essence.

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I certainly understand that to deal with the years of accumulated emotional garbage for once not to be and we all, if we begin to do anything for this, only then when the load is too great and presses.

there is no sense that this is one of the beliefs, which just makes sense to work on the algorithm that work with your beliefs?
and about resistance - Yes, this is powerful stuff...
what I like about Sedona is that it has the algorithm of work with this pain.

Oh I will never find emotional freedom with such a "historic"set.

what is emotional freedom for you? after all, emotions were, are and will be...

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there is no sense that this is one of the beliefs, which just makes sense to work on the algorithm that work with your beliefs?

drat deal!


But that's one more concern....If my body is crammed with safety features, it means somebody needs it?they also perform a very useful function, but if I'm not understanding get rid of any resistance, that one day might get out something from what my subconscious protects me(for example, traumatic memories,emotions)and I get another injury which will not be able to cope
Are there any situations,contexts when you should not do? how to identify a redundant protective function from the useful? Whether it is necessary? Maybe I shouldn't,for example, as a man not to touch experienced some dramatic events and feelings in my life?And then I have a recent very tragic event which I'm stuck and cope with the help of Negation(probably)

and now I say good people, am I the only one knocks and asks for logs every 2 minutes?

[ЛИЛИЯ-Р]

At the entrance to the forum, specifying a username , password, tick the checkbox ---login avtomaticheski at each visit . And that's all.)))

[Смелый]

drat deal!


But that's one more concern....If my body is crammed with safety features, it means somebody needs it?they also perform a very useful function, but if I'm not understanding get rid of any resistance, that one day might get out something from what my subconscious protects me(for example, traumatic memories,emotions)and I get another injury which will not be able to cope
Are there any situations,contexts when you should not do? how to identify a redundant protective function from the useful? Whether it is necessary? Maybe I shouldn't,for example, as a man not to touch experienced some dramatic events and feelings in my life?And then I have a recent very tragic event which I'm stuck and cope with the help of Negation(probably)

Protective functions do not always perform a useful function. But this question is not correct. From the point of view of the Subconscious something may be a protective function, and at the same time it can be a negative program for our Consciousness.

For example:
Someone in early childhood, some time saving up money for a gift to a loved one. Then went and chose a gift, Finally found. He was so thoughtful and heartfelt gift and gladly gives. But the receiver or the surrounding in this moment people with great irony or criticism, were presented to the subject or action. Of the giver of resentment and tears, negative emotions for the whole day.
Now, what's going on in the Subconscious? This negative emotion takes a lot of time. Our Subconscious and Consciousness, different views on events.
The subconscious looks at the root, detached analyses of what is happening. He sees the Subconscious?
a) the Owner saved money (no matter what, it sees the process of accumulation);
b) the Owner bought an item and gave it to another person;
C) people began to laugh;
g) the Owner crying and offended:

The subconscious mind concludes:
1) to Save and to have money poorly;
2) Giving gifts is bad.

The actions of the Subconscious in the future:
1) to get Rid of money, because at the end of the accumulation, the Owner is waiting for the disappointment and negative experiences.
2) Not to give and not receive gifts.

NOTHING EXTRAORDINARY - JUST ANOTHER PROTECTIVE FUNCTION!

Now, the methods of Sedona and other life-saving pills. This is a working topic. The type of tablets. Pill ate - to half an hour felt better.
Worked on method, I poboril something, you see, and let go. But the Holy place is never empty. Crawl other problems and situations. How many of them there in the Subconscious - no one knows.
Personally, I'd have killed each special, boomy the awareness of the problem and its subsequent release.
1. awareness of the problem. That means the realization, if the problem is in the Subconscious? You are here, be aware of what you want. But in the Subconscious, it will remain. And will also influence your future life.
2. Release problems. What does it mean to let go? But if she does not want to leave? If this problem created, say, by using external influence? Here they are (the ones who brought the problem), ha ha you catch looking at your clumsy attempts to let go of what you glued to the most powerful super glue.
Work with negative programs in the Subconscious, it is necessary to build on the following principles:
1. WHY DO I HAVE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY LIFE?
2. HOW TO IDENTIFY OR FIND THE REASON WHY I HAVE A NEGATIVE PROGRAM?
3. AS THIS IS THE MAIN REASON TO REPROGRAM?

Because, if we classify everything in our Subconscious programs and settings, you will find that there are only two types:
program worsen our lives;
programs improve our lives.

After analyzing and realizing that the Subconscious mainly guided programs worsen your life – need to find a way to negotiate with his own Subconscious:
1. The subconscious in the future, stops execution of programs that worsen our lives;
2. The subconscious in the future, only executes programs that improve our lives.

To mutter, to speak, to work through and let go of problems and situations separately – tips specialists from the evil one. No lives is not enough.

In General, the "thinking head – cap buy it!"<

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That means the realization, if the problem is in the Subconscious? You are here, be aware of what you want. But in the Subconscious, it will remain. And will also influence your future life.

after Analyzing and realizing that the Subconscious mainly guided programs worsen your life – need to find a way to negotiate with his own Subconscious:

dear Brave, there is no sense of contradiction in these two sentences?
All talking about the same, just everyone has their own vision of the solution... It is neither good nor bad. You have a right to their point of view, I, as a person practicing the Sedona, which, by the way, "letting go" is one of the 5 possible options for the development of internal "plugging" - are also entitled to yours. Why kill something?
That on the market there are a lot of "experts" who are "catching the fog" for "release" - I agree. Go look at their sites - a bit sad...
That You have written, Courageous, certainly there is a grain of truth. Only now, few cases in history where by "checkers" that the grain in the ground comfortable fit. It grows when the "soil" careful. Just be careful with it. Aggression too much around, what more to add then?

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how to identify a redundant protective function from the useful?

can only share my experience that led me to understanding the phrase Lester Levenson: "the Intuition is right only 100%."

Sedona method is a comprehensive, verified by years and practice, many people methodology. Hale recommends to participate in his retreats only to those who became closely acquainted with the book and the basic course, because they are, as I think said earlier here - alphabet basis.
The logic of the book and the course is built on the fact that man, through sequential study exercises first began to better understand their emotional reservoirs (9 emotional States), then "touch" to how are 8 needs (4 well marked in the book and 4 referred to their working stronie). In my view, the basic shifting exercises are those that focus on the elaboration of desire changes. They, by the way, manifest the strength of our resistance. Thanks to them, start to see all those beliefs, many of which operate as a protective mechanism.

Thanks to his educational background (faculty of philosophy) I had the "heavy legacy" in the search form rational explanation for everything that happens inside and outside. My experience (! only mine, have a right to kill me for him not worth it ) showed that as soon as you have found one rational explanation, "lived" it, the frustration is back!!! And it was the most painful thing for me is the feeling that the final answer did not receive. Only through the explanations of Leicester and Hale have come to understand that life in the "intellectual and emotional" suffering is the result of the habits of our mind to be constantly busy Actually, the answer to the question "why?" our mind can give millions of options and kayfovat from his own genius Does this feel good? My experience shows that there is.

Coming back to the expression on intuition: We all know. We all know here and now. Only our minds are sorely afraid to agree out of fear that he will lose the "reins of control" Sedona helps to "put him in his place" that he ceased to be master, and perform those functions which he initially "destined" to serve, not to manage...<

[Андрей Патрушев]

brand New
Hello.
Please read the topic from the beginning. It seems to me that there are answers to all Your questions.

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1. WHY DO I HAVE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY LIFE?
2. HOW TO IDENTIFY OR FIND THE REASON WHY I HAVE A NEGATIVE PROGRAM?
3. AS THIS IS THE MAIN REASON TO REPROGRAM?

What should I do? There is a universal way of finding answers to these questions or what they want everyone to suffer?
Do you use some specific method of management of the subconscious or what.....?? and then ?????!!!! That is not normal language to articulate, sorry.

[ЛИЛИЯ-Р]

Explorer and Sedona without good works. And no negations. Just listen and subconscious , it's smarter than us, it knows what it work and what to fix. As always, write ---- check for yourself and your loved ones - WORKS.

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what to do? There is a universal way of finding answers to these questions or what they want everyone to suffer?

You can continue to suffer, and you can start to do simple things. Lily R says that without the Sedona can do. I agree. Each is a "path" method, which is convenient. Judging by Your questions, You still need "training" assistance, strategic answers for you yet don't work. So if You are ready to use Sedona, I do is very simple: 30 days of work with one purpose. Take it in the language I proposed, she still transformirovalsya you over time in Your something, maybe even on the first day. So I allow myself to trust myself.
The process of working with the goal is simple: speak, write, goes, look, what is the need behind it. Required: bring every process to the end, i.e., to reach one of the 3 emotions. States: courage, acceptance, peace. Ready for Your questions to answer in 30 days. not before. Think of questions by that time it will not. Good luck!

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what to do? There is a universal way of finding answers to these questions or what they want everyone to suffer?
Do you use some specific method of management of the subconscious or what.....?? and then ?????!!!! That is not normal language to articulate, sorry.

I'll answer You in the topic "What is the Subconscious" here in the "Talk about everything".

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Long did not dare to write here, but apparently the time has come. Familiar with MS for a long time, for about 2 years and it was a pleasant acquaintance in the first stage (was glad to have finally found an effective and encouraging method), the completion took me about a year intermittently and I was constantly doing something wrong, in short, the concept of liberation, I understood very differently. I thought to let go of the emotion, problem, etc. - some kind of physical release (to release=to get rid of). Now I understand that this is far from the truth. To let go means to give emotions to do what she sees fit, i.e., to stop controlling the situation, and hence already implies non-resistance to those processes that are happening to us, to put it simply, you need to let go of the reins. And let everything be as it is. I realized all this recently, just a few weeks ago, now about a week trying to practice. Or rather I do but don't feel.. though you are doing everything right (in my opinion). I don't want to leave Sedona! Every time I come back to it because I really like this approach to solving life's troubles and problems, but to learn why something does not work and it is very sad. Sedona I already taught my mom, or rather, I asked her to read a book Dvoskin, as well as in electronic form her uncomfortable, she ordered the printed version on the Internet and start to use the acquired knowledge. And says that it is easy and simple. I'm willing to believe her, but confused..?
Maybe I have too much neglected the case - I suffer from depression for 3 years, apathy, fatigue, indifference to life, fatigue, depression, isolation, bad mood, aggression, fears accompany me day to day. I do Sedonas around the clock! And this is not 3 times for 15 minutes which says Lester, is much, much more! At least an hour (with intervals of course) I tend to work with you. During the week there was not one time that I felt a sense of relief or feeling like a burden from the shoulders down. The only thing (and I think it has more to do with a change of thinking than with MS) I began to let go of the situation, i.e. I'm bad, I'm saying to myself - let it be (or rather explaining the issues, I understand it and could slightly relax). But at the same time no significant changes or even hint at them. It looks like this: I sit in a cesspool and take your seat in it, no ease, power and desire to change does not arise. Sit and sit, how long to sit - I don't know and it's starting already podnadoedat Yes, I agree that my condition is quite severe and rapid changes in can not count, but when nothing happens and a feeling that is not going to I have to deal with some reluctance, as if the Allergy has not started I already let go of everything and your emotions and the situation, and the desire to change the situation, and now basically answer in the affirmative to the question - can I make ...?, and things there.
Can anyone explain what's wrong with me? <