The cylinders and unimodularity... does It work?

[Guest]

do not give references , that was also about the TSB ...

"the Discoverer" and promoter of the "cylinders of the Pharaoh" one of V. P. Kovtun. He argues that they can be recommended "for people with cardiovascular diseases, hypertension neurotrophic disorders diseases of the excretory tract, insomnia." In addition, the cylinders are "easily cope with the headaches, stressful conditions and eliminate the need to take in these cases the chemical drugs".

How do they work? The cylinders represent the two tubes respectively made of copper and zinc filled with substances, which the inventor keeps secret. Kovtun says that he revealed the secret of cylindrical rods that are holding some of the statues of Egyptian pharaohs and their relatives. It turns out that under the action of cylinders of the Pharaoh "increases the overall energy level... and in the body creates a situation in which it is much easier to cope with their problems."

But the "researcher" should have read books about Ancient Egypt or at least talk to historians. To know that if copper, the Egyptians were really given in large quantities, the zinc smelting they did not know how mankind has learned to do it only millennia later, in the sixteenth century of our era.

And the cylinders in the hands of stone the pharaohs wrote at the beginning of last century Champollion, decode ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. Doctor of historical Sciences Vladimir Kulakov has confirmed to us that the rods-cylinders for specialists no mystery no idea — this is the usual symbols of power. The closest relatives of the rods it is possible to consider the scepter and Orb of the European monarchs. However, the lack of this knowledge does not prevent Mr. Kovtun easy to cope with their (financial) problems — two sticks, instruction booklet, and videotape are $ 110!

For "cylindrical" site wonderful properties of these rods are supported by reference to supposedly unprecedented health of the ancient Egyptian pharaohs. So, Psammetik I reigned 51 years, Ramesses II the Great 67 years, Tutmos III — 54. However, most Egyptian pharaohs ruled not a long time. The next Psammetik II sat on the throne for just 6 years, Tutankhamun — 8, and the great reformer Akhenaton — 19. Here's to you and sticks!

The pharaohs long dead and some of our contemporaries still hope for their characters. Here's a tip: give the same money for expert advice. Not only the Egyptologist, and medic. It will be safer and more useful.

I wonder if the effect is fit cope with the headaches, stressful conditions, and so forth, lies precisely in its focus on the sensations when you hold fit in the hands ? what is not meditation ?
and how to explain the poor health of the pharaohs , according to the study of mummies ? it outside fits or side effects fit ?
maybe it's the fact that in Egypt then inept to melt the zinc ? and used it to fit ? and today scientists have recovered ancient methods where zinc should be ? but then where is evidence that zinc in a fit acting as if the Egyptians zinc could not produce ???!!!<

[Мирта]

The legend of application of the cylinders of the pharaohs and on their enduring in this context, health can be seriously considered only as a necessary component of public relations, aimed at a layer of people who firmly believes that the new and effective is well forgotten old ( and the older and zabytoe the rather miraculous effect ). This happens to some extent because a significant part of the population, in view of the increasing complexity and branching of scientific knowledge formed an obvious lack of confidence ( due to the inability to understand even the specific, narrow ( shorter material) to the problem from a scientific point of view, for there even for specialists, the Arsenal of tools for their research has increased significantly, and talk with the townsfolk more and more difficult. Yes , Yes, they are terribly far from people. But Mr. Kovtun close and he knows what to say to ALL understand that this is really is the MOST hidden, retrieved the ark of the Covenant or there from the depths of the mummy of Tutankhamun, preferably how or whether Indiana Jones blessed the builders of the pyramids well, until the pile representatives unknowable at the present time of science ( their role is not to destroy the aura should be minimal – enough blessings ( E.g. a personal opinion without publishing real data studies ( statistically significant ( users according to Kovtun's tens of thousands ), meeting modern requirements to the publication and finally ( 30 years ) published ). And of course the product must straighten out the aura photo which is usually attached with the signature ewupawly her about( para- ) scientific personalities.

[Андрей Патрушев]

Interestingly, there are foreign website, too, where the cylinders are sold. There is also copper and zinc.

[Guest]

you know what I have to say to ALL understand that this is really is the MOST hidden, retrieved the ark of the Covenant or there from the depths of the mummy of Tutankhamun, preferably how or whether Indiana Jones blessed the builders of the pyramids well, until the pile representatives unknowable at the present time science

but beyond the PR , the legend perhaps is the true technology of activity of CP !!!
for example a lot in ancient times were Holy places , where people were healed ... today the scientifically proven placebo effect and the power of this effect is just in the power of faith ""!!!!
so I understand some adherents who react so violently to criticism ... what's the point to know that all the bullshit and lose the real charm ... really tuning your body for healing or revealing your personally powerful mechanism of regeneration ... which was available to our ancestors of animals , through the emotions ??? after all, they include super strength under stress or injected into the bloodstream weight hormones of struggle and recovery ...

Interestingly, there are foreign website, too, where the cylinders are sold. There is also copper and zinc.Smile

there is a parallel study was conducted ? and the zinc came ? or is there a very well developed commercial vein ?

[Guest]

it is possible to remember the spear of destiny , to possess which wanted all the world to hold or the power of ancient things , as they are fascinating and something happens in the mind , or dagger great-grandfather , who took to the war has not receded ... it's not they were ... and during the war people are a little sick , little sleep , and recovering fast !!!
and myth around which the medical works as a tool like porridge from axe , triggers a chain of process , I think ...

[Анор]

Funny to see how mad those who cannot afford it.

And so observation.
When the body is "not all right", that after a session on the hands (I have mostly on the right) remains dark mark from the solar cylinder. One time was when the left track from lunar.
It is well washed off with water, but the darkening of the skin remains for a few hours.

When the body is not disease, it is possible to carry out sessions for hours and no trace will remain.

[Guest]

Funny to see how mad those who cannot afford it. Smile

and then

And so observation.

PS and there is metalotherapy , copper plates are placed on the skin in the form of application and if the body needs copper plate to stay on the skin for yourself, and when saturation occurs - fall and can remain even a spot or redness !!!
and with cylinders no such control ! t e those who hold metal in their hands do NOT AFFORD control dosage !!! also probably plays a role the moisture of the palms and skin condition ... people engaged in physical labor have thicker , dry skin, and is not something that fits , but the current from the socket does not break !!!

[Guest]

for example, the ancient Greeks intensively treated copper plates bruising, swelling, hearing loss and inflammation of the tonsils.

[Guest]

interesting observations in the past about metallotherapy :
http://www.altair756.ru/metall.html

..Aristotle and Galen knew about metallotherapy. Aristotle wrote that the attachment of copper to an injury prevents a bruise and that there is "something valid, but the cold copper" copper cure swelling and used to treat ulcers, put the copper plates. In ancient Greece, copper was used for the treatment of deafness, inflammation of the tonsils. Timely French copper treated the disorder of ears.

Russian doctor Grigoriev worked to delay the action of the metal at metallotherapy, because if you long to keep the metal on the body, then there are fever, pain, redness, blue or ulcer.

as can be seen in overdose possible !

We used applications of copper only when there is adhesion of copper with the skin, i.e. when the metal "sticks" to the skin, as observed by us, what a sick place attracts the metal and holds it, and when the need for it passes, no.

the body itself doses ? it turns out that to keep fit in the hands of a more coarse exposure control ?

for example, in the clinic the patient is put metal on the sore spot, and because skin grip with metal was not, it was secured with adhesive tape. The patient became worse. Under the metal there was redness and swelling, mouth came the taste of metal, appeared and dizziness. Therefore, the metal can be left only if there is adhesion with the skin, and if there is no clutch, to make it impossible.

So have found that there is "the effect of metal removal" in the treatment. Under the action of the copper discs in the body is the activation of leukocyte activity. Copper heals quickly. If the restoration of light in the evening high temperature, after applying copper coins to the morning comes back to normal. Wodnej patient after surgery appendicitis hard heal seam (had pains and felt seal). It lasted 2 years. When the seam put the copper coins, there was a suppuration, which broke and left forgotten surgeon thread. Then put the plantain and all passed. From others patient suture was sick for 1.5 years. When attached to the copper, then out came the body, forgotten by the surgeon. Hence it is clear that copper in such cases, it may serve as a kind of indications retrieve and remove forgotten surgeon items.

in General there are plenty of observations about the effect of copper metal on the body ... and the inventor of the fit only gave this method a beautiful and mysterious wrapper and simplified method to primitivism , turning it into a method - maybe it will help ... there are more advanced methods but there is no obvious aura of ancient Egypt , although the method is not less than the ancient ... called the records of the pharaohs ... and everything will be better !<

[Guest]

Yes indeed , a thinking person cannot afford to believe that holding in his hands the fits a more effective method than application metallotherapy ...

[Анор]

My girl friend, a clairvoyant, said that when she takes the fit to hand it envelop her energy cocoon is not permeable for the energy of external effects. No whammy, no damage, no other harmful things can penetrate.
Good help from energy depletion.
When she found out that I also use ZF, then said, "now I understand where you're getting your energy."

[Guest]

And how much she believes that it is possible to keep them?The maximum and minimum time?

[Анор]

I do not remember mentioned here or not, but fits with the success of the famous humorist Mikhail Zadornov. Apparently he REALLY paid a LOT of money )))))
But most of all touches that "theorists" make different "calculations" and "reasoning" never seeing the subject matteras they say , in the eye, think everyone else just idiots who are maintained on advertising.
"So we're such experts on the subject, in the hands never held, but I do know that this is bullshit."

Such boxers time students.

So, gentlemen, users, fits you and is crazy which led to all this. But in reality it's all nonsense, and it is urgent to give it up and believe all the "guests" who certainly know what to do.

It's like that joke:
"Here, Turn your speaks will go?
- No, he is a garbage singer.
- And you heard it?
- Well, to me the neighbor sang. Such a mess."

Only in this case, even a "neighbor" fiction, they themselves sang

[Анор]

And how much she believes that it is possible to keep them?The maximum and minimum time?

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Read the user manual. It's all there.

[Guest]

well, where does Zadornov , he is a scholar practitioner ? you never know what he does ... so where does the labeling at all ? and I believe all the guests ... there is some information and observations , it is reasonable to criticize them or to bring arguments , not to move on the person and personality of all , each took the fits for different reasons and only one thing unites all fit ... but the arguments to fit arguments and different ...

Read the instructions. It's all there.

and what justification you have for this statement , how could anyone not trust the manufacturer , but there are several reasons to doubt its competence , it is the mistakes , even for PR ... but it's a fact ... better check ...

But most of all touches that "theorists" make different "calculations" and "conclusions" without ever having seen the subject of discussion,

fit as Foll method and time more faith media ... so many have tried and with a stronger faith in the methods ... the suitcase of equipment for bioresonance therapy still lying in the attic

So, gentlemen, users, fits you and is crazy which led to all this. But in reality it's all nonsense, and it is urgent to give it up and believe all the "guests" who certainly know what to do.

It's like that joke:
"Here, Turn your speaks will go?
- No, he is a garbage singer.
- And you heard it?
- Well, to me the neighbor sang. Such a mess."

Only in this case, even a "neighbor" fiction, they themselves sang Laughing

unfair EP.... remark ... for example, all the Romans used the water from lead plumbing and all had toxicity and disease !!! .... is the experience of knowing physics and chemistry , it is impossible to determine the danger of such a lead water pipe ? and is the majority always right ? it is better to give a more explicit arguments instead of solidarity ....

if we all check for yourself ... and then say : look from the side but it is not always evident <

[Guest]

my girl friend, a clairvoyant, said that when she takes the fit to hand it envelop her energy cocoon is not permeable for the energy of external effects. No whammy, no damage, no other harmful things can penetrate.
Good help from energy depletion.

guardian ? amulet ? some just to cross and no St... h and no damage will not work

[Анор]

Guest, a simple question - do you have the fit?

[Guest]

Guest, simple question - do you have the fit?

To work as a oncologist optional add-on to root disease

[Guest]

Anor
was

[Анор]

Guest, there is a good tutorial "Logic" Georgy Chelpanov, recommend. It helps to apply in disputes adequate analogy.
And if you are not familiar with it: to be able to drive a car, you need to have at least.

[Guest]

Anor
and here links to George Chelpanov , that you love: yourself into a fit or their effect on the body ? or is it a response to another guest ? without quotes is not clear .
I advise you to decide and then discuss only the guests and their education and BELIEVE in the fit

[Анор]

Dear guests!
You then can wrap yourself badges or something. And then you fucking tell. It in the first place.
Secondly, I anything to anyone here not going to prove.I share experience!
Third, "faith" is in the Church. I practice.

p.s. and eyes you have fun running around ))))

[Guest]

Anor

Dear guests!
You then can wrap yourself badges or something. And then you fucking tell.

however, respond to posts selectively so .

nobody I do here is not going to prove.I share experience!

it is interesting that it fits and that gag , so we your experience and discuss ...

third, faith is in the Church. I practice.

practice is good ... but the explanation of the effect of practice exclusively suitable for you way impact , despite the obvious contradictions , this is akin to faith , that only faith can be the justification of your conclusions ...

p.s. and you have eyes run funny Smile))))

this is the smiley type character conveys the emotion of the characters ... but it is not the words and everyone understands according to their usual emotions ... you probably habitually as Googly EYES ?

[Анор]

however, respond to posts selectively so .

However, since the answer I like, not as you want. I spit on you. I entertain answering your posts.

this is interesting in that it from fit and that gag , so we your experience and discuss ...

Discuss to health. Boxers time students only this remains.

practice is good ... but the explanation of the effect of practice exclusively suitable for you way impact , despite the obvious contradictions , this is akin to faith , that only faith can be the justification of your conclusions ...

Well, you know best from the cellar.

this is the smiley type character conveys the emotion of the characters ... but it is not the words and everyone understands according to their usual emotions ... you probably habitually as Googly EYES ?

Here again the problem with the logic. Refer to the primer on that meter the subject mentioned above.

[Dimas]

Anor
Please,please eliminate from their posts those cues and words that may offend any of the participants.If you want to swear,please write in the "flower Bed"...