Sedona Method

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Andrei Patrushev
Help please Council.
Usually I have a fairly stable emotional state, but against the often present "Apathy" (Depressed). Started practicing the Sedona. Accept/let go of Apathy, the intensity of negative emotions increases each time, goes into Grief (Mental pain), increases again, then goes into a Fear, amplified and then goes into a Rage (Boiling with anger). At this stage, no relief is absolutely impossible to feel, only starostwa anger to tears, as I called her. No matter how much time I did not let this anger out, it stays. I tried to dive into it and fully accept it, not to resist, but it becomes so intense that it is impossible to be with her, I want to shout loudly, to cry and along the way, to kill someone)) at First I thought that the problem is in the resistance and simultaneously let go of resistance, of anger, let go of the desire to let go, but it also doesn't help. What scares me even more is the fact that it stays with me all day) and I have to walk like a boiling kettle. All this is accompanied by pain in the chest, as if the mixer into anahata someone put)
While trying to play, but not sure what to do, continue through the pain or to slow down and not to go so deep? Not zablocie whether subconscious this technique, as the one who brings the suffering?
Thank you.

[Андрей Патрушев]

Merkaba
Apparently, there is a psychological trauma. With psychological trauma Sedona unable to cope... how long have You been on the forum and, presumably, with the Guide doing? Two fairly efficient and easy to operate method of working with psychological trauma is EFT http://www.koob.ru/craig/eft and TAT (Tapas Acupressure Technique). Some drawback of these methods is the need to actualize the condition you want to work... Third effective method EMDR(EMDR) is programmed in a rainbow Arc, but to implement it through the program still have a little deeper into the theory:
http://www.koob.ru/domoratsky/
http://www.koob.ru/shapiro_fr/
Good luck!
TAT (http://yauveren.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... -шагам.pdf)
At the fifth step of "Forgiveness" in the beginning, you need to insert the phrase (officially added to the latest English version): "All conversations and communications that have to do with this, currently, is complete."

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Andrei Patrushev
Thank you very much Andrew.
It is a pity the book doesn't specify such a thing, otherwise it can be a long mudkats to no purpose) It's good that you are.
If I understand correctly, this is the final state of boiling anger and powerlessness, is the vibration itself of the psychological trauma, not wides deeper and not let go, because it's like an open wound in the psyche? This is probably also the root cause of my social phobia.
Now begin to study the theory, which you have advised me. And Sedona will practice on small moments and deep meditations while will not do.
I have all your CDs, Explorer including. The first few days, the sessions are very pleasant, but then gradually starts losing concentration and a similar sense of anger and frustration, I want to break your glasses MM)) Can only deal with 2 times a week.

[Андрей Патрушев]

the First few days, the sessions are very pleasant, but then gradually starts losing concentration and a similar sense of anger and frustration, I want to break your glasses MM))

Yes, as it should be... you Can try to engage with the Conductor through the third day. And the resulting anger to work through TAT or EFT.

If I understand correctly, this is the final state of boiling anger and powerlessness, is the vibration itself of the psychological trauma, not wides deeper and not let go, because it's like an open wound in the psyche?

Yes, perhaps. At least, for a start it is necessary to work with these emotions.

[Л@на]

There is a special computer program, developed according to the method of FR. Shapiro: http://psyberia.ru/soft/eyemover

[Андрей Патрушев]

L@on
As I recall, the integrator made according to the method Steve Andreas - there is a slow fluid movement, in contrast to EMDR. But it is - just to be clear... Both methods work fine.

[Л@на]

Possible. Just in the description of the program indicates just method EMDR FR. Shapiro.

[Евгений Кош]

It is a pity the book doesn't specify such a thing, otherwise it can be a long mudkats no purpose) .

Most likely (judging by their own feelings of working with sedonas) in Sedona, it works, it just need more time and need to be creative ( which is not always hurriedly work ).
It is advisable to look at all the recommendations in the book for Sedona.

It is possible TAT with it faster, not tried.

[МерКаБа]

Decided to try the EMDR method (method Steve Andreas), in addition to Sedona and the listening Conductor, through the third day with MM. Studying the book Shapiro, though a bit complicated for the uninitiated.
As a result of work, had a few questions.
After working with the program a couple of times came the wave of unexplained anxiety, not exactly a wave, and avalanche)) using Windows Explorer, and Sedona, often with curiosity to observe this sense, to accept with love and gratitude, to let go, but it does not always work and the anxiety/fear just grabs the head and starts to panic. Fortunately to resume control, it is still possible. In connection with this, there is the first question:
1. How safe to have one? In my head begs an answer: as you yourself allow them to. And I think the way it is. (Just scared these adrenaline wave so to clarify, could it be that I'd go nuts)).
The second question is more theoretical. If I understood everything correctly, when I'm working on a traumatic situation, I can imagine her figure and keep her focus throughout lessons that gradually lead to unlocking the neural chains associated with this situation, everything is clear. But when I place a generalized negative emotion into a piece and start to work with it:
2. What neural chain rasplachivayutsya in this case? All traumatic situations associated with this emotion just for a little bit of each? Diletansky question of course, but it does not give me rest))
Thank you for the sensible advice and answers to questions.

[Дмитрий В.]

I Read the forum and realized that people have problems with the concept of ADOPTION. In my understanding, to make so:
1. To agree and admit that the feeling/emotion you have.
2. Allow yourself to feel the feeling/emotion. Don't need this feeling to resist. resistance to maintain. I do not remember the source of this wisdom, but it's true at 100%.

I wrote above about this:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1652&start=200

description of this phrase in the book just indicates that is not the feeling itself, and the fact that it's yours, so I recommended to replace:
"can I allow myself to accept that this feeling mine?"
or
"can I accept that this sense of mine?"

[Дмитрий В.]

By the way, will share the successful experience of his wife.
Six months ago her father died. Knowing your spouse and knowing the situation in General and the situation in particular (child, postpartum depression), just realize that the person may simply withdraw and not get out. Or get out, but not soon.
Advised her to Sedona. As soon as there is the memory of his father, to let go of the arisen sense of this method.
And the book she was reading, the meaning is not clear, the "trick" is not reached.
I just explained to her that the brain is a creature that will constantly remind you about the mountain. So. if you just ask yourself questions, the brain will do what you want, i.e. to get rid of this feeling.

I the moment of release I feel it is not. And I explained to her that it was not important, the important thing is the dialogue itself.

Wife "let go" quickly. She's not freaking out/depression, she never dreamed terrible dreams, she is not afraid to stay home alone. At the same time she did not leave their loved ones and NOT acquired "without sensibility" as some fear. Moreover, Sedona has allowed her to be adequate and to function properly on in the family and in life.

I know for myself the opposite turn of events.
So... Sedona in trouble a great helper.

[Ильхом Т.]

I agree with the previous post, with an injury, this method has helped me and my family.
But what I would like to add: I did the same in this method and it seemed to me, mere questioning is not enough, the questions do not matter, they only suggest a choice. BUT(!) a person with ehtiyacim consciousness difficult to make such a choice at first, work with the emotions, because feelings become part of the "I" means letting go of the emotion, we lose part of yourself, your patterns of reaction, etc., etc..
For those who have still not obtained by simple questions, I recommend to try the fourth technique from "the Sedona Method", after the method with the questions getting easier.

[Magin82]

I tried to practice this method and now, a week later, is just a good feeling to highlight it, as it is literally in some seconds itself is released very Interesting feeling
but haunted by the discomfort in the solar plexus. It's definitely not stomach growling
what is the situation in the country. It used to be, but now intensified

[Tleigefer]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! I don't know what to do. I'm almost a month experiencing resistance to liberation. Funny that I can't even sit down and get rid of this resistance, because I resist it.
Kind of method is very easy to use, and no effort to spend a strong is not necessary, and I feel an aversion to it. Previously, this was not even felt the results. I would leave these lessons, but too often I drop something - that's why I want to take a course Sedona method to the end. But I have a feeling that I'm treading water in a very viscous swamp.

[Андрей Патрушев]

Tleigefer
"If the soup all the time to warm up it begins to stink"...
How do You know that did not make it to the end? Each method (for each person) your limits. Enjoy TAT, the feasibility study of peat, then (experience the release) will be back.

[Tleigefer]

Hehe! It turned out to be free!!
just allowed myself to resist just as I resisted. now all gone-gone.

[savshenko20061]

Irinka,
First, from the original:
"Step 4: Ask yourself a simple question: "When?" The release should begin NOW. Perhaps it will be given You."

That's exactly what- "should" not "be responsible."
In my experience of asking questions(and I'm too meticulous and cling to everything) this question of"When" does not matter. It's just START for the beginning of Tuscania emotions. After all, you NOW want to master the method to get rid of the negativity in the soul, and therefore do not respond anything but just clear.
For me in this process at all no role, for me, that's what I feel - "flies", I work to visually represent what hand remove itself from this feeling, hold it in your hand introducing himself apart from what is in hand, you say the English word "empty" - I'm empty. I literally force myself to feel the emptiness and everything turns out - I forget about this feeling, the negative thoughts do not climb to the head, but if again suddenly a thought came - again, let her go, just drop - "don't want to feel".
However, all depends on whether you WANT to let it go or WANT to FEEL. Sometimes we only think we want something, but unconsciously we ourselves are afflicted leaving unwanted feelings and give them power. Sometimes at release I don't feel a void - then understand that clinging to the negative and spiraling I don't like. Then with an effort of will begin to ask deliberate questions - I want to continue to feel this way? or do you go?

[savshenko20061]

for three months trying to use the method. And I read the book and courses listened.But nothing turns out.At first it was like some kind of result,but rather I just thought...I often repeat questions,but no result:(sometimes, kind of leaves a feeling,but a second later it comes back.Even appearance a feeling that becomes worse,the heart starts to fight much,head ache(( What advise?

Maybe it will help someone.
If you think that applying the Sedona method will all disappear like magic - you are wrong. You should make an effort. Someone does, until someone comes slowly. But the MAIN CONDITION is that you aspire to this purpose - represent it. That is, I want to say - when I release the emotion (and I also often can't identify what I feel, but this is not important, important is the feeling that you hate, which spoils your mood)- I can literally imagine how it flies away. And when I REALLY WANT to get rid of it - I did it, and when I say to myself - want to submit physically to let her go - not go - then nothing happens, but I again and again ask myself what I feel? And step by step make yourself "FEEL"- that is visually removed from the emotion itself, and throw away or burn but it is very important for me to feel empty inside. And then I forget about what tormented me, but if the newly inflated - do it all over again. The main thing - to want.

[ЗОМБИ]

Andrei Patrushev

method feasibility study

tell me how to decipher the name of the method??

(Amblin, asked a question without reading the topic)

[bofara]

IMHO feasibility study - The Technique Of Emotional Release.

[ЗОМБИ]

Emotional Release Technique

http://www.koob.ru/craig/eft

http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1447065
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1446988
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1949869

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Sedona
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=871496
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1451978
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1991736

[МерКаБа]

Sedona Method is wonderful because it on the steps spelled out the stages in one form or another are present in any technology.

In fact, the Sedona method is simply a series of questions which you ask yourself. For example, I'm walking down the street, somebody touched me, I have anger on him. In this case, the first thing I should do is say to yourself: "Yes, I am angry and have every right to that anger. I brought a nuisance, I reacted, I have every right to be mad." It is not necessary to form a neurotic loop that you don't need to experience negativity, we must all love, and then begin to be afraid that suddenly I'll start again to be angry, and then begin to fear, etc... Just say to yourself: "Yes, I have anger, it is a fact". And this is the first step is to accept it.

Further in the method the Sedona's ask ourselves the following question: "And how much time I'm angry?" For example, I considered it, and decided that I would be mad 5 mins Then ask yourself: "what will happen then?" Well, then I'll stop. Will rant for 5 minutes and stop. It's better than if I go all day and be angry, and better than if I save my feelin's 30 pieces for a whole day and by the end of the day comes with unscrewed head and plenty of negativity.

The first step is I recognize that the emotion is and accept this fact. The second step is to allow yourself the emotion to feel for some time. Third - I let her go.

[Антоний]

Hello everyone!
I have one simple question on a method Sedona:
What to do if one of the questions inner voice NO answers?
For example.. will I be Able to let go?-Yes.And then.. let Go I?-NO!
I repeat the same question several times?And if on the tenth time the answer is NO?
Please explain.

[Арабика]

Hello!
Recently faced with a somewhat different formulation of the issues than described in the book (book not read).
Namely:
- What do you feel? (Anger, irritation, unwillingness, etc.)
- Can you let this feeling go? (No, because if I could, I would let go)
Whether you want to let this feeling go? (Yes)
- When? (Now)

I'm a little practiced according to this scheme, to let go of it. To me, this scheme seems more simple.
Has anyone tried to ask these questions?