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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Jun 22, 2017 15:39

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Re: Fractals with their hands

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Сергей Ивлев » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:22

And you dear S. B. you feel the bioenergy of the body, hands?
Together with Andrei Kabankova you are leaders in publications in General and Practical publications on this website. And, probably, on irradiation with all sorts of Bioenergetically.
In a sign of respect for your dedication to this important for humanity, branch of knowledge ready to send you the original files to print my fractals in order to give you new ideas and experiments. On PM if you throw your Callsign in the online ether.
About the organizers I already wrote that this samarasekara, when all sorts of nails, sypyat but still chaotic.
Not to mention the underground sales of psi-weapons crime.
To the distance-to-order photos to kill or incapacitate people, to make crazy, to erase the memory of the modern enlightened sorcerers gather a variety of sources of negative energy. The armament in the world in this direction, which the UN is silent and policies. Hungry demons waiting for your meat.
Not to get to the next line, have close friends, good sense of biofield and clairvoyants.

You can contact me for examination the effectiveness of any bioactive products, sending photo, video, diagnostic of their actions on people and materials.

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Сергей Ивлев » Sat Jun 24, 2017 18:12

Send photo. The intentions of the sellers and manufacturers. All the expensive jewelry store after you have cleaned energetically. When peddling religious and sacred paraphernalia – there is a different energy is found.
As online objective test biofield of goods or people? If you selected multiple checked clairvoyants, the questioner writes on paper the name of the item or person thinks about them 5 minutes, but not names. Clairvoyants give you the answer on your visualization. So you can all authority figures to check.

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Sat Jun 24, 2017 18:53

Sergey Ivlev
with all due respect, ask careful
if I understand correctly, then read the organizer as organic
if we strongly office I have to filter (already started.... :oops: )

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:04

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Feelings, pleasant, by the way.
If anyone resonates - I appreciate the feedback.

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Педант » Sat Sep 30, 2017 22:18

Humpty, if I may, a few questions, as find accomplish the task.
You are well aware of the logical view of the data on the disks?
In the existing standards of recording/rewriting information on the optical media in addition to the data (directly to the code which contains the information) still contains quite a large number of official information. The disk is logically broken (formatting) into frames, sectors and tracks, the presence or absence of file system, input and output from the session. May be single-session and multi-session, etc.
Sector are supplemented by error correction codes, and the data can "skremblirovanie", i.e. "mixed" (!).
All this logic is processed directly by the controller and the drivers drive and application layer (embedded in the logic of work, and are selected depending on media type and drive capability, and data and standard record that the user chooses).
- Due to the fact that the track of the optical disk even and continuous, as on a gramophone record only goes from the center to the periphery - You described it, I saw it; each logical sector in view of increasing diameter from the center to the periphery will occupy a different part of the physical circles (arcs) on which it is placed.
Thus, if you take a block of user data in the form of "0" and "1" (for example, converted into polar coordinates image, as You suggested) and try to record using the standard means of entry pictures on the surface of the disk will not workin view of all these points and the constant displacement and creep data on the track. This results in adding a bunch of "0"her "1"nits overhead and markup.
Most likely, it is almost possible to do only with the possibility of direct access record (coordinate - burn - Yes/no). This should be AT debug+driver represents the direct drive control with the laser corresponding to the drive model, for which it is written and compatible OS. Probably (for sure) is there, but to find it...
Perhaps, for the visualization we are interested in image (even 3D) with the best technology of laser 3D engraving. You know, there are printers that burn the points inside a glass cube. You can get a very high quality image inside a glass cube. It is now very fashionable and, as you know, quite accessible. It is necessary to clarify opportunities (data size, resolution, file type for printing, etc.) As I understand it, they now mainly work in conjunction 3Dкамера printer. And the size of the cube small glass.
And so, Your idea to use digital technology and the idea is very interesting.
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Re: Fractals with their hands

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Педант wrote:most Likely, it is almost possible to do only with the possibility of direct access record (coordinate - burn - Yes/no). This should be AT debug+driver represents the direct drive control with the laser corresponding to the drive model, for which it is written and compatible OS. Probably (for sure) is there, but to find it...
Good zdraveska, Pedant
Absolutely, it is true. I fully agree with Your comments. We can go into those details, but it is not the purpose of this topic.
Педант wrote:May, for the visualization we are interested in image (even 3D) with the best technology of laser 3D engraving
Cheh, that's the whole point. I would say that by laser engraving, and creates certain sets of so-called "holographic products improve the quality of life", you know what I mean :oops: . But this requires a laser engraving machine. This is not a cheap toy.
The fact of the matter is that my goal is to ensure that "improvised" means to create the technology functionally inferior/superior with you know what. :)
My vision is to ensure that times are changing, and rapidly (look at the example of crypto-currency). Old technologies die, new ones appear.
Still as small mammals replaced the dinosaurs...
IMHO we are experiencing too, only in technological processes.
You can tell that I'm just looking for new forms. :wiz

In this regard, I am of course more interested in constructive criticism, i.e., containing concrete proposals to improve the technology. The fact that I'm far from perfect You're not surprised. :)
You know how to do better? Can you show me? I'm all ears. az<

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:39

continuing the conversation
Педант wrote:You are very well aware of the logical representation of the data on the disks?In the existing standards of recording/rewriting information on the optical media in addition to the data (directly to the code which contains the information) still contains quite a large number of official information. The disk is logically broken (formatting) into frames, sectors and tracks, the presence or absence of file system, input and output from the session. May be single-session and multi-session, etc. Sector are supplemented by error correction codes, and the data can "skremblirovanie", i.e. "mixed" (!).
Of course, I am aware of.
As for coding - I write in one file. No sub-folders with multiple files. I have only one file size to 25GB.
The disk is NOT rewritable, written in one session.
As for redundancy, of course I know what idea it is, but I'd say that the algorithms of redundancy it functions tiered back-up prog and NOT the drivers. It was not his business. This should make the program more high level. Although, honestly, in the source code of the driver I wasn't looking

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:44

Педант wrote:quite a large number of official information
Педант wrote:a bunch of "0"her "1"nits
bring me, no offense - this is a set of words
anyone "of a large number of official information" and "heaps "0"her "1"nits" (like say in nature), is actually on the disk :) - does not exist. All clearly defined algorithms. They just need to know. You have the knowledge or are You on to talk?
Педант wrote:pictures on the surface of the disk will not work
Again deeply apologize, but do not La-La. It will work if to think a head. The key is knowledge. Conversations, emotions - it's just noise

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:52

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Педант » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:03

Good time, Humpty.
While I pondered the problem, You okaztsa have a bunch of posts written :)
No need to apologise, I'm not touchy, and when there is a problem and the looming idea of such communication is normal.
But now it doesn't matter.
Anyway, I've been researching a bit and this is what I got.
It turns out that thirteen years (2004) ago a pair of respected companies came up with (almost simultaneously)
two ways of applying labels on optical media. They (these methods) are called:
1) LightScribe (HP)
2) LableFlash (NEC)
All this was Yamaha's "Disk T@2", but it was quite damp and died itself.
They proposed a method, developed drives, discs and software.
Ie takes a picture, inscription, etc., the cover design, is processed in special software and burned (!!!)
on the disk. This is done regardless of the write data (separate procedure).
Technology I went to the market, but to date, the passion subsided, they decided that the simpler and "colorful" just print labels and stick (or mapactivity) on disk. Although the drives and blanks can still be found.
Imno, it really is exactly what we need! We already invented everything.
There remains (as always) a number of questions on the performance characteristics, but vskidku, should be better than
what we are using now. I will investigate further. The results will be - will tell.
Look in the Internet about these technologies.
The bottom line - you need drive, blanks and under it and... voila! On how many fancy enough.

P. S. (that was not kept, after all).
as for the coding - I write in one file. No sub-folders with multiple files. I have only one file size to 25GB.
The disk is NOT rewritable, written in one session.
It will not save "the father of Russian democracy". The disc before burning is formatted (or formatted), i.e. is marked (already marked): by sector, in particular. Without your will. You choose one of the layouts, depending on which disk you want to burn. You write your 1 file to the already marked cells, each of which is also protected by a code that ensures data integrity.
This means that visually, your consecutive "0" and "1" will be split utility bytes, and which do not need to know (and we are the whole picture will fall apart). Folders nothing to do with it. And then there are different modes of speed control due to the fact that the linear and angular velocity of rotation at different radii are different. To play we don't care, and recording how.
But it is of no importance. So, optionally, with a Cup of brandy can discuss-if there is a desire and opportunity...
P. S. I Wrote so long, because I have a second day of power outages, such a decent, on the whole village.
Not otherwise someone builds the intrigues of the local comrades :D :shock:

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:06

PedantA COLLEAGUE! az
Here for such posts as yours and dragged several topics at the half-year and more
Педант wrote:1) LightScribe (HP)2) LableFlash (NEC)
Yes, it's the bull's-eye.
It is necessary to look, I really uploaded in October.
They have their own iron, It is not very gut. + the software I realized only under Windows. And besides DVD, not Blu-ray, but it's the details. In fact - it's in jablochko. What we need
Педант wrote:the Disc before burning is formatted
I'd say no. Everything is done in one pass, no formatiranja not happening.
Педант wrote:so, optional
I agree, that's not the point............

again - RESPECT! A COLLEAGUE! az

there are however, very unpleasant moment:
Hewlett-Packard discontinued support of LightScribe technology in 2013.
Yamaha discontinued support of Labelflash technology in 2017.
Yamaha discontinued support of DiscT@2 technology in 2017.
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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:13

This technology opens up completely new possibilities, because it gives everyone the opportunity to grow your own fractal, based on their forms of thought. This is a fundamentally new vision technology. About the algorithms modulation of fractals, I wrote here: viewtopic.php?p=178256#p178256

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Педант » Tue Oct 03, 2017 14:43

Good time, Humpty.
Please. az
they Have their hardware
So, all their hardware. It's not a big problem, especially because the Park drives that support LS (let's, for short)
you can force to extend, but not for all...
the software I realized only under Windows.
No, well, so commercial products don't happen. it was issued 10 years...
Drives full (relatively), but with blanks can be a short time problem. However, I haven't dug LF.
DVD, not Blu-ray, but it's the details
It doesn't matter, because this technology does not depend on the recording standard. This is just an extension of the functionality of the drive.
To print the cover artwork though on the bare disc, if only it was (for LS) is covered by spec. layer. And many times (!)
BY not checking or not (if the pig allows). It is possible though to incinerate it all.
It is clear that BR discs don't have time to do such (although need to check) - then the question is, why? (see PS)
For LF - I don't know. Since the LF includes T@2, then it is possible to "draw" on the side of the data.
support discontinued
Yes (I know). Well, all laid out on a silver platter, and then away... But something yet remained. :wink:

PS I'm here reading You (and given You another topic) thought, perhaps not quite correctly understand the ultimate goal.
Would you (and the PM) in simple words to us to aspire to. "I want to..."
Putting the limits of desire and the area of stretch. Sort of preds. Then, MB. I will be able to more specifically dig or recommend anything.
If not, so no - not a big problem. Going to get used "on the go".
Good Luck, Sergei.

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:43

Good zdraveska, Sergey
Педант wrote:but with blanks can be soon problem
this, by the way, all washes to be an ambush. They like their pigs.
If I understand correctly, it still is not quite right. What they wanted to do is to put label along with the data. Ie they have their own markup, so their iron and their blanks, may already be marked. This is what we need, we just need a label - this is our data...
Педант wrote:would You mind (can be in PM) in simple words to us to aspire to. "I want to..."
Oh, Sergey, You are. I'm not ideologicheskie/politicheskimi revolutionary war. I am willing to say that I have no position. I just do what I like based on the tech situation and your vision.
Педант wrote:Will be used "on the go".
Yes, it is more practical.

At the moment my vision is reduced to the problem of obtaining the fractal pattern on Blyurey/DVD drive.
Everything is negotiable, of course.

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Имя русскими буквами » Wed Oct 04, 2017 13:31

I also looked to technology LightScribe Labelflash, as I understand it they have a small density printing is about 300dpi. And they do not burn a blank and change color special.coverage.
There are firms that make custom made Souvenirs with laser equipment, it is declared density 1000dpi, and burnt these holes. Inexpensive.

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Post by Педант » Wed Oct 04, 2017 17:19

Name in Russian letters, good point.
Though Salty and asked not "to delve into those details", but in this case it is absolutely necessary, because
we want to apply the new technology and without understanding them in any way.
However, while I never found the exact answer according to the print resolution neither LF nor for LS.
In several places about the performance characteristics of LF I've seen that stated 1000dpi.
About LS direct value is not found.
But if you understand how the process of migrating data to optical media (policy framework)
and have experience and understanding in the technological processes of production of electronic products,
then: - we know that you use the laser 1, thus the resolution when drawing pictures can (but should not)
to be = resolved during the data migration.
Humpty
they like their pigs.
For LS - 100% Yes. Just not "your", and for this technology. They released all the main suppliers of blanks.
For LF - no. You can use "ordinary" disc, just not all in a row. For example, a DVD-R from the data
(information not verified). There is more information, so you can use the 2-sided DVD, but have to recheck.
Humpty, please forgive for tediousness, but:
to the problem of obtaining the fractal pattern on Blyurey/DVD drive.
I don't understand the problem. If You want to get a picture (the picture will be seen on the surface of the disk)
using STANDARD RECORDING BlueRay or DVD (there are many) regular means, then 100% is not even theoretically possible.
(as the easiest proof for this is not the limit you could come up with the LS and LF !!!).
I have a feeling that You associate standards record (BR, DVD) with technological features areal density. In fact, technology determines the standards, not Vice versa. Because you want "more more points" - in the limit, the physical HOLES, not to BlueRay. Yes or no?
It is necessary to jump from the regular (to less had to do themselves) capabilities of lasers and drives. And "sew" can be any (+/-) pigs. If only the disc is identified and the laser hit on the desired layer. All.

PS I have, there is a desire to unsubscribe in the subject of "Buddhist DVD" (uh, vigorous fouled), and about the "spin rotation" (have some thoughts).
With our, J.<

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Oct 04, 2017 18:29

Good zdraveska, the Name of Russian letters
Имя русскими буквами wrote:I also looked to technology LightScribe Labelflash, as I understand it they have a small density printing is about 300dpi.
It seems to me that You are right. I think I begin to understand what it is.
They have their own iron and its own blanks, because they in addition to the "useful" data put on the disc label, 300 dpi. Ie they have their own markup, giving you the opportunity to write both. Now, we believe. If you take the disk size is 12cm, then (ignoring the hole) (12/2.54*300)^2*PI/4=1.5 Mbps. This is nothing compared to 25ГБайт Blyurey
1000dpi-ned fundamental difference (only 10 times) With the same success it is possible on paper to print. :?
On second glance, it appears that data for us technology is not of interest, but sorry... :cry:

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Oct 04, 2017 18:37

Педант wrote:it's not even theoretically possible
I have nothing to prove to anyone and does not impose viewtopic.php?f=60&t=6236
If you think that's impossible, with all due respect - we stop communicating. :?
or looking for other forms of :)

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Oct 04, 2017 18:51

Шалтай Балтай wrote:This is nothing compared to 25ГБайт Blyurey
just for comparison, check me.
12cm disc (without holes) - gives 17.53 sq inch
25GB Blyurey this ft landscaped give 37,764 dpi, here 8)
catch up :)

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Педант » Wed Oct 04, 2017 21:49

Humpty BaltayI am sorry You go to a "hard" form of communication.
You pulled a quote from the text. I wrote
using a STANDARD RECORDING BlueRay or DVD (there are many) regular means
If you think that's impossible
May NOT REGULAR means that you'll have to create yourself.
You yourself was given to understand that this option is not considered for the time being, in view of its complexity, complexity,
expensive and not mass.
Drive (motor + drive) for data storage and the logic not function is incorporated rendering
the surface of the disc recorded data. This "black box". Input data in the desired format and output they are the same. And inside - a mess, which is not anyhow, but in order to enable you to get back what's put.
LS and LF was invented in order to use the device to solve a different problem. But logically it happened two DIFFERENT devices in one drive and a printer.
25GB Blyurey this ft landscaped give 37,764 dpi
"GB" is not translated in "dpi" is not correct.
Well, okay. az

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Имя русскими буквами » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:53

In principle, theoretically, it is possible for the microprocessor (Arduino even think I can handle it) to write a program for the direct control of the carriage and the laser Blu-ray drive and record the correct numeric sequence.
Is willing to try? :)

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:27

Педант wrote:Humpty Baltay, sorry to hear that You go to a "hard" form of communication
No offense, I just .... been here a long time :)
Педант wrote:GB" is not translated in "dpi" is not correct.
chtem carefully pliz
Педант wrote:25GB Blyurey this ft landscaped
ie GB/cm2 - and this is transferred to PDI

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Re: Fractals with their hands

Post by Педант » Thu Oct 05, 2017 17:56

Name in Russian lettersYes not, it is possible and practical.
In the u-tube is full of videos of how to adapt the CD drive in the engraver (for instance) with Arduino.

Humpty Baltay Yes, I'm all... cling. Read in everything and anything.
Most importantly, the Customer was satisfied. :ay

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