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Yes I agree see what you can see but not anymore..))Новенький wrote:.depends on who and how it looks...I like seeing rich people...the other sees only the alcoholics in beer...the third do not see anything ,
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The main thing you have to understand all that surrounds around Us now..We have created..and the most interesting that it is possible to purposefully change some aspects of your destiny.нева wrote:Yes I agree see what you can see but not anymore..))
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... This technique of "remembering yourself" volitional effort. There are other options, "instance of" something like "physical-mechanical" they are in some ways easier. For example it is known that the eyes are connected to the brain than some, and use. Generally there, the point is simple, when a person looks at something small up close, this kind of stress and the eye muscles, and optic nerves. When a person looks into the distance is the same stress but different. When a man is asleep his eyes are relaxed, but closer to the looking into the distance. Optic chiasm(chiasm) (cross optic nerve) is located in the center of the head. If easier ..before falling asleep to create a force through the eyes and hold for about five minutes while your eyes will adjust and calm filled with held effort. And when a man is asleep his eyes are starting to relax, what causes low-level electrical activity in chiasma and generally in the center of the head (the transition efforts from tension to relaxation) that allows a little myself to remember. By the way for normal Osov important activity once again in the center of the head.ронин wrote:from another workbook learned to start to realize in the dream, suffice it to say I'm in a dream
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..Well, better, probably, will think, that it was not us.. all created)) is not modest. Rather we have created in your mind some connection between the reflexes of recognition perceive and respond to perceived..and call it my picture of the world. Which is essentially unique and individual, so of course you can say that the world was created.. perceiving..)Новенький wrote:the Main thing you have to understand all that surrounds around Us now..We have created..and the most interesting that it is possible to purposefully change some aspects of your destiny
And change is certainly possible, it's very interesting..but cautiously, because to rearrange the furniture in the room is one thing, but to Build a new house of cards consciousness on the basis of the old and not destroying the old..that's different..)
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If everything is okay in your life, then of course you can go with the flow and enjoy....нева wrote:And change of course you can, this is very interesting..but cautiously, because to rearrange the furniture in the room is one thing, but to Build a new house of cards consciousness on the basis of the old and not destroying the old..that's different..)
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tech OS set. but in any case the necessary energy, the force, prana, etc who calls. here is one of the techniques for accumulation of power and osoznanie yourself. tried very powerful. most importantly do not need to change anything outwardly, but the inner world explodes. of course to each it will be inappropriate. maybe someone will move it. I now Yes.
"....Pause. George waits for more, but Kam was silent, as if waiting for his reaction to what he heard. Finally, Shakhov does not stand up.
And how can you use this information in order to go beyond the usual coordinate system?
Really like to know what's going on with you.
But I am aware of...
"No," Cam shook his head, ' you do not realize. You live in the program. Do you think that realize. But they are completely different things.
George absently shrugged.
- Don't see the difference.
- I told you. We can't go beyond the Algorithm, because we do not see it.
Why?
- A habit. We are taught from childhood not to see. And most importantly - the special setting of our mind that prevents us to do it.
What is this setting?
- Our left hemisphere, which we primarily appreciate the outside world, the extremely low speed of information processing. Only ten bits in sekundu. This does not allow him to perceive the world continuously. Our logic is forced to break it up into segments into blocks.Therefore, every 6-8 seconds in our consciousness is another failure of continuity of the mental stream. We can't think about something for a long time. Our thoughts constantly jump from one topic to another. You know? So as soon as we become aware of the surrounding system - the Algorithm , six seconds we go a little to the side, and a minute later can't remember what I was thinking before. So people are trapped in the Algorithm, even without knowing it. And in order to attain the first step to freedom, you must learn to understand the world around us.
Is meditation?
Not quite. Well... what kind of option dinamicheskoi meditation. I offer you an exciting Game. I taught it to the Altai Hunters. But given the specificity of our city life, I offer you a new version of this Game.
George smiles. "Ink" never ceased to amaze him in their conduct.
And not too we large, in order to play games? I thought we had a serious event. And we at night on the roofs lazim, and now games...
Kam made a very serious face and leaned over him.
- That's it! It is our seriousness prevents us from seeing the world as it really is. Well... if you want, you can treat this game seriously. It doesn't matter. Enough chit-chat. Play, but we'll see. Ready?
Shahi threw out his arm to the side, showing that time, so it is necessary. Kam leaned forward even closer and whispering, as though afraid that someone might overhear their strange conversation.
- Then remember. The rules of the game are very simple, especially for a programmer. You played computer games? Now, imagine that you have downloaded in huge volume game. But imagine in good faith, right from the moment you Wake up. Put yourself on the clock in the phone recording, which would periodically remind you about it. And hold this perception for only a day, as much as I can. Learn all around you like you really are in a volume game with full "effect of presence". Okay?
George laughed.
- What is the goal?
- In what sense?
Well, each computer game has its own goal is to kill as many monsters, find keys to the next level, collect the maximum number of artifacts... In this game what is the purpose?
Kam winked at him.
- But in this, you will have to deal. The goal may manifest itself at any moment. So you have to be ready essecnce and your awareness should be focused on the surrounding reality. Otherwise...-"Inc." stood up and flexed his shoulders, you risk missing the goal, to ignore the artifact, pass key from another level or... missed a monster that wants to give you a "Game Over".
- Does he have a name?
- The name? Can it as you want. I call it just Game. But if your logic trebuchet formal designation, call her... well, let's say - "Chimera"...
"The job was not as simple as it might seem in the beginning. First, the idea of the Game seemed fun, and I thought that Cam was making it up specially that fill our mysterious communication of at least some dynamics. But after two hours I realized that all what was told before to offer the participation in the Game, in fact was a grim reality, My attention and the truth rode like a spotlight at the disco, knocking me from the original goal of the awareness of what is happening. After a few minutes of practice , I realized that I think absolutely of other things. And forty minutes later barely remembered that was supposed to focus on the actions performed by me. It was a nightmare? On the fourth day Kam secretly told me that when he realized that not going away a series of mental images, then angrily cut with a knife on the thumb of their hand triangle to the wound reminded him of the need to return to operator checks the time. He thought that the scar will act as a distinctive anchor, which, falling into the eye, will return his attention to the Game. But this is his intention he only remembered four days later, casually glancing at the wounded hand. All the while his mind was busy solving everyday issues. And when I asked him what happened when he learned to play this strange game, he cryptically replied that he was in another world....."
"X" A. Korabelshikov<
"....Pause. George waits for more, but Kam was silent, as if waiting for his reaction to what he heard. Finally, Shakhov does not stand up.
And how can you use this information in order to go beyond the usual coordinate system?
Really like to know what's going on with you.
But I am aware of...
"No," Cam shook his head, ' you do not realize. You live in the program. Do you think that realize. But they are completely different things.
George absently shrugged.
- Don't see the difference.
- I told you. We can't go beyond the Algorithm, because we do not see it.
Why?
- A habit. We are taught from childhood not to see. And most importantly - the special setting of our mind that prevents us to do it.
What is this setting?
- Our left hemisphere, which we primarily appreciate the outside world, the extremely low speed of information processing. Only ten bits in sekundu. This does not allow him to perceive the world continuously. Our logic is forced to break it up into segments into blocks.Therefore, every 6-8 seconds in our consciousness is another failure of continuity of the mental stream. We can't think about something for a long time. Our thoughts constantly jump from one topic to another. You know? So as soon as we become aware of the surrounding system - the Algorithm , six seconds we go a little to the side, and a minute later can't remember what I was thinking before. So people are trapped in the Algorithm, even without knowing it. And in order to attain the first step to freedom, you must learn to understand the world around us.
Is meditation?
Not quite. Well... what kind of option dinamicheskoi meditation. I offer you an exciting Game. I taught it to the Altai Hunters. But given the specificity of our city life, I offer you a new version of this Game.
George smiles. "Ink" never ceased to amaze him in their conduct.
And not too we large, in order to play games? I thought we had a serious event. And we at night on the roofs lazim, and now games...
Kam made a very serious face and leaned over him.
- That's it! It is our seriousness prevents us from seeing the world as it really is. Well... if you want, you can treat this game seriously. It doesn't matter. Enough chit-chat. Play, but we'll see. Ready?
Shahi threw out his arm to the side, showing that time, so it is necessary. Kam leaned forward even closer and whispering, as though afraid that someone might overhear their strange conversation.
- Then remember. The rules of the game are very simple, especially for a programmer. You played computer games? Now, imagine that you have downloaded in huge volume game. But imagine in good faith, right from the moment you Wake up. Put yourself on the clock in the phone recording, which would periodically remind you about it. And hold this perception for only a day, as much as I can. Learn all around you like you really are in a volume game with full "effect of presence". Okay?
George laughed.
- What is the goal?
- In what sense?
Well, each computer game has its own goal is to kill as many monsters, find keys to the next level, collect the maximum number of artifacts... In this game what is the purpose?
Kam winked at him.
- But in this, you will have to deal. The goal may manifest itself at any moment. So you have to be ready essecnce and your awareness should be focused on the surrounding reality. Otherwise...-"Inc." stood up and flexed his shoulders, you risk missing the goal, to ignore the artifact, pass key from another level or... missed a monster that wants to give you a "Game Over".
- Does he have a name?
- The name? Can it as you want. I call it just Game. But if your logic trebuchet formal designation, call her... well, let's say - "Chimera"...
"The job was not as simple as it might seem in the beginning. First, the idea of the Game seemed fun, and I thought that Cam was making it up specially that fill our mysterious communication of at least some dynamics. But after two hours I realized that all what was told before to offer the participation in the Game, in fact was a grim reality, My attention and the truth rode like a spotlight at the disco, knocking me from the original goal of the awareness of what is happening. After a few minutes of practice , I realized that I think absolutely of other things. And forty minutes later barely remembered that was supposed to focus on the actions performed by me. It was a nightmare? On the fourth day Kam secretly told me that when he realized that not going away a series of mental images, then angrily cut with a knife on the thumb of their hand triangle to the wound reminded him of the need to return to operator checks the time. He thought that the scar will act as a distinctive anchor, which, falling into the eye, will return his attention to the Game. But this is his intention he only remembered four days later, casually glancing at the wounded hand. All the while his mind was busy solving everyday issues. And when I asked him what happened when he learned to play this strange game, he cryptically replied that he was in another world....."
"X" A. Korabelshikov<
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Why so much attention is given to topic of OS.Is that an attempt to "escape" from reality (to improve or change certain aspects of their lives.)Новенький wrote:A "horn breaks off" in this field.And nothing but deep disappointment at the door!...That is, if mazzacca strainBut if life goes on, but dreams and desires are not implemented..
also controls dreams, the same abuse is not necessary I think)))
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I feel that we live in illusion. because so many problems and searches who in religion who are the shamans and yoga etc. and someone even more to the illusion with the help of drugs. and the OS helps you to realize the reality, to feel the freedom and get It. as I chuvstvo. everyone has their own way I guess
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People say that the unknown attracts, and what attracts and why not say. But there is a theory that there are powerful forces driving human behavior, a lot of them all, but probably the most powerful are those that are associated with the survival instinct. Fear (a feeling, emotion) say it is a manifestation of the instinct of survival of the species, and curiosity, as a manifestation of the survival of the species. Therefore, we can say that Wasps for those who are concerned about personal survival, it is something like overcoming the fear of death by getting the lifetime out of bodily experience, and those who are practicing collective survival use Wasps just out of curiosity, what would need to figure out whether it is human or not if you do not need dangerous, if not dangerous, then how to use it..and if you can, gain experience and share it..)Лоцман wrote:Why so much attention is given to the OS theme.Is that an attempt to "escape" from reality (to improve or change certain aspects of their lives.)
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The developer of the OS does not use the OS in their daily lives...he has other interests ..
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just their "offspring" many professionals are always first to suffer, achieve some results in this field, and then with 100% certainty offer us..for Example You offer a device get rid of excess weight, and the developer with excess weight
trying to explain to us what a good primorose device... 
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If we are talking about developed by the engineer, able to embody some idea (job) into material form, he does not need to use it. Importantly, the unit worked and monitored the REM phase of sleep.
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You talk like an Employee mindmachine.ru You need people-the engineers with their know-how for the development of the site... and I talk as a user of this site and there is little doubt about it...certainly not like nor use , force here nobody makes... But I'm just expressing my point of view and all !
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I like how the speaker defends his product as He believes he is right..
as He fought the skeptics....
from chuvstvovala Professional and he's always in the pocket of SBB..
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The engineer may have no know-how, he creates something according to specifications, translates well, or someone's idea into a technical implementation. It can simultaneously develop and device for lucid dreams and the device, blocking dreams and not to use in my life neither. The engineer may not himself fully to produce the product. Maybe he has different things do different people. And they generally can not know to what device solder chip.
Avdeev and protects YOUR product. You think he sits and produces a card or sew the mask yourself? He gives a job to the production. He is the author of, and is implementing his ideas. And here they do not necessarily use these products.
Avdeev and protects YOUR product. You think he sits and produces a card or sew the mask yourself? He gives a job to the production. He is the author of, and is implementing his ideas. And here they do not necessarily use these products.
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Well, in fairness, as an employee of a mind-machines, I would say that Alexander (the developer) before making the instrument, carefully studied the material on lucid dreams and have tested it for yourself. And the fact that he does not use them in their daily lives proves nothing. We are all different, we have different objectives and different interests. He is passionate about people and development of any technical stuff it just like.
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Okay it makes no sense to argue..but yesterday I read the list of Developer OS that can be obtained from the use of the OS, just read without any purpose and all..and went to bed, so I went into the OS itself...without discs and masks...that it's psychological??? the next night was not like this..
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most people "lonely". Everyone is looking for the "magic palucca", which will fulfill their desires. In fact, each of us is himself "the wizard" and could perform miracles, just nemnoshko work and awaken your senses, intuition, extinguish Horde of meaningless thoughts and desires, etc. And do not need any machines or devices to do this. All have created the nature for us. And all these cars is purely business "the American dream" now unfortunately, and Russian.
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Not a suggestion, and somecontrol during the day and thought about it too often during the day. It's the dream Consciousness. In General, devices for those who want to get into the OS, but for some reason he can not. And who wants the flag in hands and go to bed earlier than normal at 3 hours, natural sleep to the desired time of rise, therefore will be early in the morning in a drowsy state, when it is easier to get into the OS. But during the day to remind yourself about it and to test the awareness of reality and dream. Ways and natural and natural a lot, you are right, use them and who cannot , but wants used uses devices.Новенький wrote:Well it makes no sense to argue..but yesterday I read the list of Developer OS that can be obtained from the use of the OS, just read without any purpose and all..and went to bed, so I went into the OS itself...without discs and masks...that it's psychological??? the next night was not like this..
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Here we come to the main point.Новенький wrote:went to bed, so I went into the OS itself...without discs and masks...that it's psychological??? the next night was not like this..
Self-hypnosis is not. That INTENTION is the cornerstone.
Even with the device, even without the device - it must be the INTENTION to realize a dream. If not, You just sleep through your dreams, can be bright and exciting, like a dream, but not of awareness. Being aware of yourself in a dream, You get the ability to control their actions in dreams.
If You will practice OS, then treat this dream as a gift. Every night it will not. Maybe will happen once a week, maybe once a month, maybe once a year, or five years. If we want to increase the number of gifts, then dream Stalker will help, as it will signal you when will to dream.
If to be lazy and not do any device possible to discredit (it already applies to all technology in General).
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Any presents, I do not understand??? if I were in a dream came a specific answer, seeing that I have to go there and then, or doing something to achieve your dreams-goal - what a treat!!! And I was just an observer as my body goes somewhere on the sidewalk, next drove the car..and all..and then hear and see my body sleeping and moaning occasionally, and I look at my body and laugh over it..and himself..but then got scared and woke up, the moaning stopped...Malvina wrote:If we want to increase the number of gifts
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Are you sure it was OS?Новенький wrote:Any presents, I do not understand??? if I were in a dream came a specific answer, seeing that I have to go there and then, or doing something to achieve your dreams-goal - what a treat!!! And I was just an observer as my body goes somewhere on the sidewalk, next drove the car..and all..and then hear and see my body sleeping and moaning occasionally, and I look at my body and laugh over it..and himself..but then got scared and woke up, the moaning stopped...Malvina wrote:If we want to increase the number of gifts