The legalization of short-barreled (COP) of military weapons in Russia

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Считаете ли Вы целесообразным легализовать продажу и скрытое ношение боевого КС в России?

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Re: Legalization of short-barreled (COP) military weapons in Ross

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:36

I am against non-lethal weapons and firearms, because possession of a gun provokes its use is very simple to send to man the gun and pull the trigger.
It is much harder to decide on something that would perezat the opponent's throat or gut.
It's going to be a real threat to his life.
Of course the possession of a knife requires training, personally for me it took three years of classes with different instructors knife fight.

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Re: Legalization of short-barreled (COP) military weapons in Ross

Post by Михаил_ » Sat Mar 03, 2012 13:05

Практик wrote: And by the way I don't agree.... because come gradually with the thought that the majority of people on these forums( this revered+ amerikoskie) is "infantile outcasts"
Seeing that his samorazvitie only through ocalenie their passions, complexes, stereotipov etc.....

But of course there are interesting people but they are few...
Well... Practices, you know - I now see even for me not a comic activity of the people, including in the production of handmade wares and a host of other actions. So, IMHO, the kernel really active, interesting and interested in the "people" forum here is great.

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Post by Воффка » Sat Mar 03, 2012 14:05

Михаил_ wrote:I doubt that this reflects a real picture of what interested the main part of the forum audience. In extreme cases it is in fact the style of the author Tanat on the same topic.
I agree.

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Re: Legalization of short-barreled (COP) military weapons in Ross

Post by Тяфа » Sat Mar 03, 2012 19:42

And on other pages of threads all discussing Humpty :D :? :lol:

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Post by Маг.нет » Sat Mar 03, 2012 20:45

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:wink: Popularity anywhere do not hide.... :?
....still will stick out and attract attention....




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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 21:37

And for me, it's better this way:

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Re: Legalization of short-barreled (COP) military weapons in Ross

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Sat Mar 03, 2012 22:24

The spray should take pepper vs Grizzly bear, he is big and sprays for about 10 meters, a good thing :)
I had my eye on this, but never bought, limiting bell ,but I think to by myself and for Souvenirs.Worth $ 50.

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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 22:53

There's a video use of everyday items.
Any thing good for self-defense.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Mar 04, 2012 17:40

Андрей Кабанков wrote:ZOMBIES, in my opinion,the first two folding knives only sharpen the pencils, and the second two to be qualified to hack their way in the jungle :)
Pika II-a tactical folding knife. is not HO. the maximum that can make health-take rejik.

hunting can be a drag. only funny look. then it is better axe.

pepper I have in the car lies to the right of the aluminum bits :D
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Post by bofara » Sun Mar 04, 2012 17:43

Владимир Никонов wrote:Any thing good for self-defense.
And a pencil... :wiz

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Mar 04, 2012 17:46

believe that firearms need in Sweden to do (previously it was) - to give (or allowed to purchase) all able-bodied men trunks to oblige them every six months for military training to hang, be required to keep guns at home in a special cupboard (like the safe lock), etc., etc. -- have a highly mobile army, ready to fight not friend for half an hour.

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Post by Практик » Sun Mar 04, 2012 18:05

ZOMBIE
I think that with firearms you need in Sweden to do
But if Russia beats the size of Sweden it will be important but so is garbage....
have a highly mobile army, ready to fight not friend for half an hour
Have a bunch of armed men of whom there is a certain percentage(very small) "border people" in racial discrimination(you kind of just such, or not? 8) )

Strong large countries should have the necessary professional army and it is not a luxury but a necessity

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Mar 04, 2012 19:45

Практик wrote:Have a bunch of armed men of whom there is a certain percentage(very small) "border people" in racial discrimination(you kind of just such, or not? 8))
I'm one of those, and not the philosophy I'm-better-worse, and for reasons of "nafig go with my (well or public) land"... mean Chinese people (especially illegal immigrants)... exclusively for environmental reasons because this thing has the properties to devour all that he sees (the Japs are no better: how to eat whales or dolphins?? it is better to have eaten each other)... you probably know how they they poach in our woods... the bears are shooting, then to "eat" only the feet of the front... a dish they like -- freaks. they all ate tigers, we have a ginseng dig that its almost gone...

Chinese greenhouses and farms will drop... it's obvious.

because I think that all illegal immigrants (hachey similar) should be deported, and the border crossers simply fell into place.

well, to tighten and to the impossibility of obtaining citizenship by foreigners... for example, I can take the immigration policy of Australia, which lives on immigration.

can I help it if it sineglazye was a knacker, and hachipuri cave people... and we are slobs and nihilists

I'm evil :evil:
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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 20:55

The use of knives is dangerous. First, they can use against you. Secondly, if you apply you'll be in trouble with the law.

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Re: Legalization of short-barreled (COP) military weapons in Ross

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Sun Mar 04, 2012 21:20

Without training it is exactly.Now there are enough schools of knife fighting,including where can I teach something sensible.
Application in the extreme case,if you have the skills,you can confront a group of physically stronger opponents.
Anyway knife fight is interesting,the speed is so high that the brain shut off completely,the body works itself.
Different people come sportinguista with them,I liked when engaged,though covered in bruises constantly and broken hands from the wooden knives.

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Post by Михаил_ » Sun Mar 04, 2012 21:33

in, started about a blunderbuss, graduated from a popular lecture by Andrew picture :)

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Mar 04, 2012 21:44

Андрей Кабанков wrote:and indeed knife fight is interesting,the speed is so high that the brain shut off completely,the body works itself.
Different people come sportinguista with them,I liked when engaged,though covered in bruises constantly and broken hands from the wooden knives.
and how rassheplenia joints of the fingers? I think without chain-mail gloves no longer subscribe to springbase even on wooden knives

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Sun Mar 04, 2012 21:54

Gloves is a bad thing,accustomed to sparring with knives and "wooden sticks",the hands need to learn to take care of,sharp biting blow on the hand, a real knife and fingers will fly to the side,so a pain then useful to develop the ability to keep good boundaries and do not poke each other.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Mar 04, 2012 22:06

Andrey Kabanov
we had one such, and then went into surgery -- the finger bend stopped

we have TREN.knives are just made of sheet steel were cut, was a piece of wood

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Sun Mar 04, 2012 22:16

Well,I do not understand what you were doing :) Bad imagine how you can cut knives from steel sheet.
Although there are such schools,where all types of ballet,in slow motion. Though it's far from reality. I'm in the timber knife from sheet steel with a thickness of 6 mm was pounding so that he could not get,and if the body of the partner...to Hurt you or even killed :)

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Mar 04, 2012 22:20

Andrey Kabanov
on steel - medium speed (this is to the metal, so to speak, to feel), the woodwork - someone in that much... so this type finger and deteriorated, from a piece of wood.
was nuts as each other poking a piece of wood, then what a huge city in an incredible amount poured into their mortal carcasses
I'm pretty average, not particularly fond of, hands are needed :)

well, of course it was real, only people became less and less directly during trenyce, then hand pierced, what else will happen.

I by the way was a joke, exercise is: behind you poke a knife, almost in a body, and you should feel much poke and Dodge... well I almost fainted from this GOV't fell.... and we had such two or three per group... extrasex damn :roll:

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Post by Смелый » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:28

The desire to have and carry weapons is a way to hide their disability, including mental. Why develop and eliminate their own fears? Better barrel under his arm, knuckles in his pocket, sword on belt, cap to the side. And on the street. To frighten such morons.
Already proven on the interrelationship of the victims of the attack and the actual attack. That is, the victim pulled the attack. The fist draws a fist (unless of course the Soul does not chose death), the barrel pull the barrel. And who would be a great cowboy, one more question.
So, go for it. Only recommend everyone to walk the streets and look at stefov, Rottweilers and their owners. To my surprise, see a lot of interesting. Face, swagger. Arrogance and self-confidence. Mind you, not in her strength. And that we say two just touch. But in real life, the power of the dog. The owner of a little that is, even if there is a mountain of muscle. They are useless for the owner because the owner doesn't believe in them. Therefore, walking the dog fighting breeds.
Same thing with weapons.
And I guess there are no topics for discussion. Discussion - what? How to help the inferior?

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:20

In my opinion, if you are not able to protect themselves and their loved ones from physical attack, then you are defective. If any scumbag caught in the way you can take your money or just to beat for what you didn't like it.And not everyone is able to defend himself without a weapon due to various reasons, physical development, age, psycho-emotional qualities.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:23

Михаил_ wrote:Yes, of the two proposed options, I choose already made the third, especially given the number of near-similar to those in this part of the forum, Humpty similarly provocateur. I would place Andrew, most of those on the list would be demolished, and it's not even clear about that in General forum. In the top dangle is actively fueled by Humpty threads about different terror, muehlebach, genomes (in spite of the innocuous title of the topic is not about that) and so and so. I.e. up to 50% of new posts from the first page of the forum on these topics. I doubt that this reflects a real picture of what interested the main part of the forum audience. In extreme cases it is in fact the style of the author Tanat on the same topic.
this is the official statement?
And who am I provoke to what?
What you say sounds more like slander.

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Post by Смелый » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:10

Андрей Кабанков wrote:In my opinion, if you are not able to protect themselves and their loved ones from physical attack, then you are defective. If any scumbag caught in the way you can take your money or just to beat for what you didn't like it.And not everyone is able to defend himself without a weapon due to various reasons, physical development, age, psycho-emotional qualities.
Well, well! And not able to defend themselves without weapons in different reasons, in fact, is able to do this with weapons? He will adequately respond, to act, without fear to pull the trigger to shoot accurately? Calm down! Want to play - play.
I'm with a trunk beside the bed had been asleep for several years. Not because of fear. And from a work situation when you never know what you carries another doorbell ring or phone call.
And Makarov was needed in order to apply it in the least. Last. When all the arguments and methods are exhausted. But then I try to shoot upwards several times into the ground under the feet of the enemy, and every stone wall up for myself. The fountains of the earth and sparks of bullets on the wall behind you, above, are very good lead, "interlocutor" in a sense. The use of weapons by those to whom it is put in the service, I repeat, last resort. Last. After conversations, warnings, attempts to force the arrest. To avert the threat. And the idiots who bought the permit to the trunk and the pouting cheeks of his imaginary greatness - weapons the first and only measure. Did not like the opponent, pulled a gun and slammed. And went to the markets on the subject of how he's right. THE WEAPONS NEED IN ORDER THAT IT WOULD NOT APPLY. SPICES. All the rest is superfluous and don't need the hassle.
How to buy the permission in the country where everything is for sale, you know.
But once again I pay attention. Victimology is the study of the behaviour of the victim of the crime. The victim herself attracted to the event. Since we have a website esoteric, so let's raise the topic of how to get rid of fear how not to fall into the situation. Let's talk about personal development. And the baton, a lot minded. I think Andrei Patrushev, a lot of things can tell.<

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