Mind machines and vision with your eyes closed

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Post by Dimas » Tue Sep 18, 2007 15:38

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And no progress bar!!!Everyone is different,I also can't see much and don't feel the same see and feel for others,and they in turn see and feel what I!!!!!And it's perfect!We are all different.And not robots.Engage and You will get probably a lot more that You were originally set up...AND IT will be much bigger and better :wink: In my case, it happened that way...

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Post by Александр_ » Sat Dec 15, 2007 23:15

I have this effect too, but not with a machine, and TM.
Sitting in a pose, meditate, and suddenly I see the time on the clock that you have on hand.
But it's all so illusive and vague.
Then I think - was a dream or not ?

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Re: Mindmachine and vision with your eyes closed

Post by Евгений Кош » Mon Dec 17, 2007 0:39

Никонов Владимир wrote:Noticed that when working with mindmachines I "see" through closed eyelids and glasses mindmachine - their hands, if they move before my eyes.

How can this be? If someone moves his arms - I do not see, and their hands see.

Explanation my - brain projects the movement of the hands in the visual center.
That is, by emulating the brain knows that the hands before the eyes and gives them a sample image. Can this be?
Think it's from the "well pump" in the session - alpha :)

In my experience, the vision of closed eyes appears by itself (in certain classes of development) and no cars.. Personally I have it as intermediate stage dive.
When you walk in condition.. as soon as you begin to see the ceiling ( chandelier and sometimes even kind of like the wires in the ceiling), once you understand that the dip will be effective. After "the view" trying to take a step further and "vision" already I don't care and "see" already tried.. and saved .. but maybe not.. don't know .. I'm just in the "how" as other more interesting questions ( at this stage of development) .
But what to do with this opportunity "this vision" - don't know yet.. But if you want to see well, you have to develop.. because "this vision" is not quite clear.. to consider the small things - difficult (not to mention reading small labels), the people there are seen on the other silhouettes . And after playing for some time "seen" something else.. already wrote about this. he can't quite understand what it is.
who can say? .. for seeing so clear I.. - pairs.

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Re: Mindmachine and vision with your eyes closed

Post by Dimas » Mon Dec 17, 2007 13:21

Евгений Кош wrote:
Никонов Владимир wrote:Noticed that when working with mindmachines I "see" through closed eyelids and glasses mindmachine - their hands, if they move before my eyes.

How can this be? If someone moves his arms - I do not see, and their hands see.

Explanation my - brain projects the movement of the hands in the visual center.
That is, by emulating the brain knows that the hands before the eyes and gives them a sample image. Can this be?
Think it's from the "well pump" in the session - alpha :)

In my experience, the vision of closed eyes appears by itself (in certain classes of development) and no cars.. Personally I have it as intermediate stage dive.
When you walk in condition.. as soon as you begin to see the ceiling ( chandelier and sometimes even kind of like the wires in the ceiling), once you understand that the dip will be effective. After "the view" trying to take a step further and "vision" already I don't care and "see" already tried.. and saved .. but maybe not.. don't know .. I'm just in the "how" as other more interesting questions ( at this stage of development) .
But what to do with this opportunity "this vision" - don't know yet.. But if you want to see well, you have to develop.. because "this vision" is not quite clear.. to consider the small things - difficult (not to mention reading small labels), the people there are seen on the other silhouettes . And after playing for some time "seen" something else.. already wrote about this. he can't quite understand what it is.
who can say? .. for seeing so clear I.. - pairs.
That's it!!!!I have exactly the same starts dip..This "vision" is only the initial stage...by the Way..I have not worked REGULARLY with a machine (relocation,business,hustle and bustle), a couple of days doing once a day,mostly in the alpha of the "Vidin" no...the thing that comes after a certain time of training IMHO....<

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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:27

Checked - the effect is really observed, so can be called "effect Nikonov" :) and what can who thesis write.

Checked in the following way: I was in an altered consciousness during holotropic breathing, the feeling of the instep. Thought is it just me, but through closed eyelids, saw the hands. When out of condition, the hands were really raised.

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Post by Максим Ал » Fri May 09, 2008 8:07

:lol: people are trying to learn alternative vision(skin vision), and you have here a side fefect :lol:
here is the website WWW.BRONNIKOV.RU
there is certainly a bit esoteric. If Bronnikov more about the mm doesn't know, you know, just buy party.
But I'm trying to achieve hallucinations, so learning how to call them, to learn how to manage them.
Probably heard about Nikola Tesla. He suffered from hallucinations. Then he learned how to manage them. What did his inventions.

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Post by Князевский » Fri May 09, 2008 14:04

Максим Ал wrote::lol: people are trying to learn alternative vision(skin vision), and you have here a side fefect :lol:
here is the website WWW.BRONNIKOV.RU
there is certainly a bit esoteric. If Bronnikov more about the mm doesn't know, you know, just buy party.
But I'm trying to achieve hallucinations, so learning how to call them, to learn how to manage them.
Probably heard about Nikola Tesla. He suffered from hallucinations. Then he learned how to manage them. What did his inventions.
a dangerous thing - glitches
Nikola also in itself was a genius

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Post by Бедный Котейко » Fri Jul 11, 2008 16:29

I see the chandelier often (mainly lying down). but to see the hands of even the machine does not need - try to relax with closed eyes and move your hand in front of face and be happy ... And about reading - well, if you can see the hand - why not to see what is in it - you should try to work out in this direction :ay

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Post by Евген » Fri Aug 22, 2008 20:56

Hello.Tell me who fails to see the hands with closed eyes in glasses. what is best for these purposes to use the machine, Nova Pro 100 Mind Spa or sixth generation.

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Post by ЖСЛ » Sat Aug 23, 2008 0:03

Никонов Владимир wrote:Checked - the effect is really observed, so can be called "effect Nikonov" :)
I think a thread of yoga many thousands of years ago :)
what can who thesis write.
so all this is described at the same time 8)

Damn, you come up with a fun people :)

When logging in to an OS - attack on the enemy, and Wake up to learn that he just died is not known from what still will be highly surprised? :lol:

See you are hand. Afirca saw - well done. now condense it, give it properties, such as resistance to fire :wink:

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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 0:19

so all this is described at the same time
ZHSL, so tell me where is described?

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Post by Guest » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:14

Dear, I recently was hypnotized and hypnology apply mindmachine at receptions. 8) So, on the second session I realized that I see his silhouette, but it first, then I saw him more clearly, reinforcing the "vision" the picture was clearer :) after Senans try to do it without the action machine - did not work told him about it, says open 3 eyes :) good sense of humor... Apparently it's time to buy this thing called mindmachine :) but I have OTHERS ! :) and I know that I need to give :) az

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Post by ЖСЛ » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:28

Никонов Владимир wrote:
so all this is described at the same time
ZHSL, so tell me where is described?
Yes, like in any serious esoteric literature. On www.koob.ru - the best and complete collection. Thank you for collected, but do something read it? bi

Try to look ahead at a finger corner of the eye(peripheral vision), will see the first layer of the aura(ether) even without MM. Well breathed - you'll see the following.

Only practical use I've no. To see it all don't need to feel enough. Learn to feel and seal - will coal go :)

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Post by ЖСЛ » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:30

Anonymous wrote: says - open 3 eyes :) good sense of humor...
no, just illiterate said. Starts working ajna chakra.

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Post by Идущая вперед » Tue Aug 26, 2008 17:50

after finishing 2 steps for Bronnikova 1-1 and 1-2 I can say that at the first level are taught only to feel the energy and gain energy by various exercises + the simplest type of charge water... the effect You are talking about seeing with closed eyes (i.e. you fiksiruesh on the subject I have is usually bright mandalas and escho better if this brightest YANTRA animation is accumulating over time (and if the subject in real life is white then there I see it black if the color is blue there it's yellow, etc.) from Bronnikova is the concept of the biocomputer i.e., after certain manipulations in condition with eyes closed, you open a white screen... then it shows a red rose... then at this rose flies the beetle...or a bee then you erase the rose and the bee and draw a circle and fill it with different colors then the 3x3 table in it 9 two-digit numbers and all you see on the screen of your inner vision.... they say that Some gurus Bronnikov can remember the 6x6 table with 4значными numbers of current I don't believe...
using the mind machine has greatly increased the chroma of the objects that I see with closed eyes i.e. I sit in front of the computer screen include the chakra mandala'm reading them with open eyes for 10 seconds. and then close my eyes and admire them for approximately 20-30 seconds and I catch this aaaaaaaaaoi high...

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Post by Василиса » Tue Aug 26, 2008 20:47

Going forward
I also buzz you want, you Can satelites these same chakra?

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Post by Василиса » Tue Aug 26, 2008 21:05

Many people have many opinions. az
I was at the brow in the head with a brick, called ajna chakra, and as soon as zayuzat MM, so this chakra starts working. I wonder what she was doing there?

Chakra work at all, you may have an imbalance, block, slagging, and so this chakra is poorly assimilated energy, arise stagnation and failures in the energy sector, but the chakra it is still running.
In my opinion, a session with a mind machine sinhroniziruete the left hemisphere with the right that leads to the release of blocks, and with further depth the brain there is a harmonization of its functions and as a result recovering the inherent nature vision function of the pineal gland. This is what in esoterics is called to watch the "third eye". It laid in the machine frequency fully match the frequencies of Earth and space. :roll:

So the deeper you are, the faster the recovery, but each in its own way, and some may experience discomfort. Then it is better according to the formula "keep it coming". I've also noticed that the use of audiostrobe disc speeds up and strengthens the pituitary and pineal gland. All I wish to recover their original abilities deep!!!!!!!!!! :o

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Post by ЖСЛ » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:52

Василиса wrote:How many people so many opinions. az
I was at the brow in the head with a brick, called ajna chakra, and as soon as zayuzat MM, so this chakra starts working. I wonder what she was doing there?
Worse worked :)
Василиса wrote: Chakra work at all, you may have an imbalance, block, slagging, and so this chakra is poorly assimilated energy, arise stagnation and failures in the energy sector, but the chakra it is still running.
I should add that the person has a master and secondary chakras. And it's not changing, need to pump the entire config for sustainable results. I just pimped your most powerful ajna, noticed pulling up all the others... People began to see vosche through, very funny, when people began it on a subconscious level to notice and reflecting. Added anahata - calmed down 8)

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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 23:42

About Bronnikov and his courses, I have a strong doubt http://www.yugzone.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1298
Vision hands eyes closed is another.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:48

Никонов Владимир wrote:About Bronnikov and his courses, I have a strong doubt http://www.yugzone.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1298
Vision hands eyes closed is another.
something that is not tested so meticulously to achieve results - can not cause any emotions:) because even logically - response "works or not works" can only give one one it works :) because if gives the answer who is Broken - then this is the answer of a man who couldn't make it work :)

Bronnikov says very clearly - "I don't teach, I help you remember how to do it." :) This stick and I :)

When I spontaneously had a vision with my eyes closed and I actually read the book with my eyes closed he is not aware of it, while the wife is not beginning to pull out of my hand because it looked like I was sleeping , eyes closed .... when sitting watching telly and kimari.. and mother-in-law went and said to his wife "but Jack is sleeping" .. and this time I relaxed like a cat after a liter of milk.. sat abstractly watching TV.. knowing that the eyes are closed..
if this nebylo :) I could also doubt :) but if it is, then the point is just to remember how to do it :)

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Post by Ромка-68 » Wed Sep 17, 2008 17:47

Hello if it's not the same person under different nicknames. In any case, apply to You. Please help I live in Novokuznetsk podskagite where to touch but to feel well of cold nuclear transmutation would Pat ochem then interview . Because the conversation interested and keep the conversation do not know how. And the cats in a bag I was sold

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Post by Dimas » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:05

Romka-68
well, it's only if You Muscovy will come...we in the office can all feel and see,even sit with a working device.

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Post by Ворона » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:20

I ,like Dimas, during the sessions see the letters. But it is rather, the signs are similar. Me they are not read - all complex as characters, but not one I'm familiar with (such as Egyptian or Maya looked specifically) are not similar. And they are not on paper, but like a convex or carved in stone. Every time is different. I understand that it is the texts of some. It is strange, however.

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Post by Саванта » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:06

Guys... can I ask where you learned this technique...?

I'm happy to share with you about where and who teaches this technique to "read a leaflet" come and ride a bike and play Billiards well, etc.." with your eyes closed....

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Post by Dimas » Mon Sep 29, 2008 13:40

Savant
I have it...

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