Thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

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Re: Orgon, orgonite, and everything connected with it

Post by Сергей Битков » Sun Nov 13, 2011 21:56

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Re: Orgon, orgonite, and everything connected with it

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Sun Nov 13, 2011 23:39

Igor wrote:How to reel in alive?...this way the Lorenz attractor.
Post a link where you get this stuff? Website or what?

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Re: Orgon, orgonite, and everything connected with it

Post by Igor » Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:47

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:
Igor wrote:How to reel in alive?...this way the Lorenz attractor.
Post a link where you get this stuff? Website or what?
Is a computer program taken from here http://www.chaoscope.org/

My description of this program here

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Re: Orgon, orgonite, and everything connected with it

Post by Igor » Tue Nov 15, 2011 22:11

Succor Punch (aka SP aka Cake). After researching the Internet for information on this device, I want to share my theory on its operation.

To begin, consider the design of the SP. In its classical form it is a special coil "Mobius" is placed on the crystal of quartz in orgonite. To the coil is fed a signal from the playback device (tape recorder, computer, MP3 player), which reproduces a specialized track to realise defined by this track, result.
The coil itself "Moebius" wound bifilar winding in the form of a spiral torus or in the form of a Mobius Double-winding greatly reduces the overall inductance of the coil and increases the resistance of the winding, however, to completely get rid of the inductance does not work, still some sort of very small parasitic inductance will remain. Twisted toroidal form of winding provides a phase shift of the signal as it occurs in long wire lines. I.e. "Moebius" at submission on it of an electrical signal effectively generates a weak rotating magnetic field.
Although the coil is wound on the crystal but, in my opinion, it interacts not with him, and with a metal filler orgonite, and the quartz coil is wound only for the convenience of making SP, since the suspension coil to the casting form is quite problematic.
Acting rotating magnetic field to the filler orgonite (metal) due to changes in its properties (magnetization) there is a change of intensity of radiation with orgone ORGANICA. As a basic transition in semiconductors as a control grid in tubes, as a control winding in magnetic amplifiers, so the coil "Mobius" controls the intensity of the orgone radiation, ie is the orgone modulation signal from the playback device, and the crystal serves as a channel of communication with man. Thus SP essentially I see as a modulator of orgone.
If this assumption is correct, then the best place for coils, "Moebius" is not on the chip. Ideally, the coil should be placed so, that would maximize the magnetic field of the entire filler orgonite.
However, there is still the notion that electromagnetic effects have to 'shake' the crystal and call it a response. According to some members of the forum it's like to trot in the tree, i.e., it does not matter how, the main thing that dramatically. IMHO for these purposes, the best pulse signal with steep fronts, and the tighter and shorter the front the better.<
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Re: Orgon, orgonite, and everything connected with it

Post by bofara » Mon Nov 28, 2011 14:34

Igor, thank you very much!

http://chaoscope.org/doc/attractors.htm#lorenz - strongly recommend.
Igor wrote:Image

How would it wind live?

...it's the way the Lorenz attractor.
And why live - for Scorpan? Print shop /laser printer/ in your pocket... Only you must first to see then readand then IMHO the correct attractor for your goals to choose... :) I'm going to read. :)

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Re: Orgon, orgonite, and everything connected with it

Post by Igor » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:42

bofara wrote:why live for Scorpan?
Yes, would really like to try this spiral in the SP, but it has been postponed this idea.
bofara wrote:print Shop /laser printer/ and in my pocket...
If You're talking about the printing method of manufacture, I doubt that it is possible to do so, there is a lot of overlap which should not be.
Try it for yourself. So far the only way I've managed to come up with is to come up with this spiral of small pieces linking them together. IMHO Not the best option.

In General, I intuitively feel the connection between chaos and entropy, ether and organom, I think it's different vectors of the same energy IMHO...
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Re: Orgon, orgonite, and everything connected with it

Post by Свами Доупаду » Tue Dec 06, 2011 14:33

Igor wrote:
In General, I intuitively feel a connection between chaos/entropy ether and organom, I think it's different energy States of the same energy... IMHO...
- Interesting idea about the last one, but entropy-and here ?

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Re: Orgon, orgonite, and everything connected with it

Post by Igor » Wed Dec 07, 2011 23:30

Свами Доупаду wrote:
Igor wrote:
In General, I intuitively feel a connection between chaos/entropy ether and organom, I think it's different energy States of the same energy... IMHO...
- Interesting idea about the last one, but entropy-and here ?
Well, it's like the concept of warm and soft, like properties completely different, but often United in one thing, such as a Comforter/blanket. And then there are notions which can not be United in some things, such as wet and furry, fiery and sweet, etc.
So intuitively feel that orgonite focus of the above energy flow through him.
Although it may be entropy there really is nothing and I probably slightly overheated...

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by Igor » Fri Dec 23, 2011 16:16

That would start to experiment with ergonom need a starting point, something to compare your success or failure.
And this point I think I will have SP. Gather according to the classical scheme of the crystal-organic-Moebius-spiral, the filler will take the steel balls or washcloth. When the first results can already try to change something.

This is how it should look:
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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by Igor » Thu Dec 29, 2011 13:36

Had an interesting thought about syncing SP and its owner by parallel stimulation.
Ie the original stimulating signal to serve not only on the Mobius SP, but in parallel to bring its owner through sound, light, touch, electrical stimulation, etc. I Think this will speed up the process of "Dating" and "understanding" between the SP and its owner. If the stimulating signal is musical and harmonious think it can be brought to the owner using a conventional parallel-connected headphones. If it is a simple monochromatic signal (square wave, sine, etc.) of low frequency (up to 10Hz), then to sum to the owner can be through a tactile sense (vibration massive relays or solenoids), if the signal average frequency (up to 50Hz), then to let through the light (flash LEDs or MM), and if the signal is high frequency (above 50 Hz), then routed through electrical stimulation (TES, electro-sleep/analgesia/etc.).

z.s. It's all deep IMHO, the request strongly not to kick.

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by Алексc3000 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 14:52

Igor wrote:had an interesting idea about syncing SP and its owner by parallel stimulation.
Ie the original stimulating signal to serve not only on the Mobius SP, but in parallel to bring its owner through sound, light, touch, electrical stimulation, etc. I Think this will speed up the process of "Dating" and "understanding" between the SP and its owner. If the stimulating signal is musical and harmonious think it can be brought to the owner using a conventional parallel-connected headphones. If it is a simple monochromatic signal (square wave, sine, etc.) of low frequency (up to 10Hz), then to sum to the owner can be through a tactile sense (vibration massive relays or solenoids), if the signal average frequency (up to 50Hz), then to let through the light (flash LEDs or MM), and if the signal is high frequency (above 50 Hz), then routed through electrical stimulation (TES, electro-sleep/analgesia/etc.).

z.s. It's all deep IMHO, the request strongly not to kick.
Igor can be easier to make: collect the product with the camera to transfer properties inside stuff say test tube with alcohol and the top of the product to put your photo :) and compare the feeling before and after and then poznakomivshis start working.

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by bofara » Thu Dec 29, 2011 15:08

Igor wrote:...the idea of synchronization SP...
Алексc3000 wrote:...to assemble the product with the camera to transfer properties inside stuff say test tube with alcohol and the top of the product to put your photo :) ...
Here I have given some link by which to download the book "Magic of regarding" English :? / In that book, IMHO, good, described how to make the trend for a specific purpose and to synchronize the orgone device with Your desired trend. There is also an explanation why a particular trend for example made some radionic computer the program not working at all or works not as it should be/ for another product. There are also guidelines to invest not only photo but also the paper with saliva, hair and fingernail of the operator.

But I think that after the New year, thanks to Michael_
Михаил_ wrote:...NG I will post how (do SA).
it would be all super. :D In the UK there is an increased ability for mental control and synchronization, and such securities and trends you do not use. 8)

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by Igor » Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:44

Алексc3000 wrote:Igor can be easier to make: collect the product with the camera to transfer properties inside stuff say test tube with alcohol and the top of the product to put your photo and compare the feeling before and after and then poznakomivshis start working.
Such as scary. If that doesn't work, God is with him, and if it works too hard, he is gonna croak from intoxication... or am I wrong?

In General, what is meant by a product with the camera of the transfer of properties? SP? Or something else? If can be a little more.

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by Алексc3000 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 13:15

Igor see Merlin

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by maverik » Fri Dec 30, 2011 18:13

Igor wrote:had an interesting idea about syncing SP and its owner by parallel stimulation.
Imagine a full SP, which is in constant contact with the operator, (in pendant form). Constant physical contact sinhroniziruete and strengthens mental bunch of pieces with the operator.
Run-on passive models. The result is very encouraging. Response in real time.

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by Igor » Sat Dec 31, 2011 23:01

maverik wrote:
Igor wrote:had an interesting idea about syncing SP and its owner by parallel stimulation.
Imagine a full SP, which is in constant contact with the operator, (in pendant form). Constant physical contact sinhroniziruete and strengthens mental bunch of pieces with the operator.
Run-on passive models. The result is very encouraging. Response in real time.
This is a very good idea, but in my experience the power of SP is highly dependent on their own dimensions (in classic layout), and to carry on the neck a few pounds a little unsettling. And the goal at SP fixed a few other than mobile (pendants).
By the way if you own several SP (stationary or mobile), there is a need to synchronize the entire Arsenal, and this topic is not investigated.

It is also not clear the subject of the disposal of SP, when suddenly there was such a need.

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by maverik » Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:06

Igor wrote:This is a very good idea, but in my experience the power of SP is highly dependent on their own dimensions (in classic layout), and to carry on the neck a few pounds a little unsettling. And the goal at SP fixed a few other than mobile (pendants).
By the way if you own several SP (stationary or mobile), there is a need to synchronize the entire Arsenal, and this topic is not investigated.

It is also not clear the subject of the disposal of SP, when suddenly there was such a need.
Work passive pendant from 50 to 150g.
Active pendant - max 200g, not counting the Zapper generator. When using precious metals, weight and size can be reduced significantly, while maintaining and increasing power and capabilities.
Using precious metals and stones, high-frequency and passive coulombs to achieve results not inferior to SP, really work with these products is different, as are equipment and programming.
And about recycling, to break - not to build, many do not mind. The crystal can be saved, if it's worth it.

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by Практик » Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:05

About active pendants, very interesting(at first glance) product:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-One-Pendant ... 2eba546a00
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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by Igor » Mon Jan 02, 2012 16:25

maverik wrote:And about the disposal, break - not to build, many do not mind.
Here is the view that the need to break with the mind, gently.
Михаил_ wrote:However I would not risk it - don't know how to behave in a complex energy structure in the destruction part, they will be quite active and will interact somehow with each other and the surrounding space.
It's not about SP, but I think fears are not in vain.

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by maverik » Mon Jan 02, 2012 21:42

Igor wrote:
maverik wrote:And about the disposal, break - not to build, many do not mind.
Here is the view that the need to break with the mind, gently.
Михаил_ wrote:However I would not risk it - don't know how to behave in a complex energy structure in the destruction part, they will be quite active and will interact somehow with each other and the surrounding space.
It's not about SP, but I think fears are not in vain.
C mind it is necessary to break TNT tab. Here it is, "how to behave in a complex energy structure in the destruction part, they will be quite active and will interact somehow with each other and the surrounding space."
If You bullies the door pissed - this is a complex power structure.

It's not about SP, but I think fears are not in vain.

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by maverik » Mon Jan 02, 2012 22:00

Практик wrote:concerning active pendants, very interesting(at first glance) product:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-One-Pendant ... 2eba546a00
Looks beautiful, feels - empty. Could the secret have some?

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by Практик » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:24

maverik
Looks nice, feels - empty. Could the secret have some?
So I wrote "at first sight" photo I'm not really mostak verdicts put, you have to feel to blaspheme and so on.
And so unnecessarily beautiful appearance prestressed me of course....
PS.
What you are doing without porn very interesting, device your like thank you again :ay
Zhdems photo charms

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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by maverik » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:50

Glad You enjoyed the article.
This model gives interesting results when working with wax. Try, maybe You'll like it.
The pendants amulets I have everything ready, the case for a jeweler.
Stones are still coming from afar.

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Re: Orgon, orgonite, and everything connected with it

Post by Igor » Tue Jan 03, 2012 18:30

Igor wrote:My first pancakes made purely out of curiosity. The results were not long in coming.
ImageImage

More the filler used copper-plated steel balls and the stone is similar to quartz,
because with the crystals in my region all sad. A little sharpened it, gave it, so to speak, aesthetic appearance. In the small used small steel filings and electronic quartz crystal.
Today it finally hit me that I applied in the first pancakes stone or quartz, or his relatives is not. Hence the emptiness of the products. And I found out that trying to cut recently acquired quartz crystals, which I did not succeed, unlike the aforementioned stones, those sawn very well. And when sawing, quartz sparkle, but this stone is not.
In General, it turned out finally.

z.s. by the way, what kind of stone can be?
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Re: thoughts on the subject of orgone and orgonite

Post by Ланцелот » Tue Jan 03, 2012 21:13

Igor wrote:Yes, and when sawing, quartz sparkle, but this stone is not.
Quartz scratches glass. But that was the first time... :shock:
In the circular saw?

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