About the system Bronnikov

Чук · Post by **Чук** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:10

Somebody unimodularity checked? I wonder where they have painted on site

соник · Post by **соник** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 18:57

Carilo, thank you very much for the information. Honestly, the human impact on plants I do not particularly care. I can only offer one suggestion, although it may seem "clumsy". In the human body are constantly taking place any chemical reactions and correspondingly in the environment identifies some derivative of these reactions. Scientists have the assumption that man is able to allocate certain chemicals-pheromones. Now imagine that each emotion corresponds to a particular set of pheromones, which in turn affect the plants. Over the water say the following, the structure of the water is liquid crystal and therefore it is not surprising that water can have "memory".
I'm sorry, I can not accept the point of view associated with the so-called "energy - information level." Carilo, man is aware of only 10% of applicants , the remaining 90% are held on an unconscious level.

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 22:22

And the front room too by your pheromones evolve?

There is an exercise called "ray". Imagine beam coming from your index finger and draw a ray on the palm of other hand shapes (circles, squares, triangles). Say self-hypnosis? Okay. And if the other draws, and you can with your eyes closed to tell the figure. This is a high telecomminvest palm? But if back to energy from the sacrum to the head. What will be clear sensations where at the moment is arm. Also telecomminvest? It's in clothing then? In the sweater example.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 23:20

and who will lead the real facts of experiments on the effect on plants of a person's thoughts ?
and that Copperfield also says a lot of things ..

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 23:38

they, too, believed in miracles in his time and now we are sure that it was Ren ... ..........

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 0:19

Anonymous wrote:but who will bring the real facts of experiments on the effect on plants of a person's thoughts ?
and that Copperfield also says a lot of things ..

Take real grains, real cover with water and cotton wool. And germinated. Description experience look for in the theme of the room. And you will have Happiness.

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 19:30

соник wrote:Carilo, thank you very much for the information. Honestly, the human impact on plants I do not particularly care. I can only offer one suggestion, although it may seem "clumsy". In the human body are constantly taking place any chemical reactions and correspondingly in the environment identifies some derivative of these reactions. Scientists have the assumption that man is able to allocate certain chemicals-pheromones. Now imagine that each emotion corresponds to a particular set of pheromones, which in turn affect the plants.

Honestly at first I was puzzled and I accepted your reasoning for one of the possible theories. But there is a key error, plants perfectly prorostayut themselves. So your "pheromone" theory is false.

Most plants respond to changes in electric, magnetic, or even what fields exist in nature. And whether these fields, whether the information from these fields, you can create the power of imagination.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 19:36

there are no repeatable experiments that prove the influence of human thought on plants .

all that operate is akin to the descriptions of the tricks Geller or description of medieval recipes how to break a diamond if to anoint it with the blood of the slaughtered goat on the new moon

all believe as the test will not be ...

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 21:16

Guest
I twice did and got similar results. To do 100 or 1000 times I have no desire.
And you dear visitor before categorically say that "there is" etc. would read my post carefully and look for a description of the experience in the subject of the parlor.

about 10 Years ago my brother and I conducted an experiment. After that I again repeated the experiment for the control alone. The results were a bit worse (I was missing days and I had problems with the power of emotion), but still quite obvious.

Took three caps from jars, put cotton wool, water and wheat. The time of the experiment for about a week, while wheat did not give a centimeter sprouts. All the covers were lying together in the sun, the rest of experience time.

The essence of the experiment is to see if you can affect the wheat emotional? That is, does it understand our emotions, desires? During the experiment we were at a distance of approximately 30-40 cm from the covers, their hands did not touch, not shaking, not breathing on them did not speak, did not cry, just silently watch.

And so, looking at the first cover with the beans my brother had Stralis to imagine something bad. I thought about that, grain burn, that the earth is dry, that grow not here. I tried to call in relation to wheat the emotions of hatred, anger. Brother probably imagined something similar as well.

Looking at the second cover we did exactly the opposite. That is, the earth is good, the weather is beautiful, the grain is wonderful.

And the third was a control and was standing by herself. Before it, we also sat, but was already thinking about each her. Trying to forget about the bean in General.

The results surprisingly were. And not only that, they were were completely unexpected and very noticeable.

In the first cover sprouted about a quarter of the beans. But the length of sprouts was impressive. They were bright green, long, about 3-5 inches, towering peaks as over cap.

The second cover together almost all sprouted grains. They were about the same length about an inch, plus or minus half an inch.

The third cover was complete confusion. There were a couple long, most average and some not germinated.

So I do not know about information storage of water. But the emotional impact I would say the physical reality. If in doubt you can repeat the experiment. If you really try, spend time and be able to recall a fairly vivid emotions of hatred and love, I am sure the results will be very noticeable.

So that mystery exists we are literally under his nose, despite the fact that at school in biology lessons, not learn.

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Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 23:34

Carilo
what can I say ... it's hard to be both skeptical and believing ...
so I'm always a skeptic and if I get out of the argument for skepticism I will ........

brother senior ? can he play along ? Junior ? maybe he satrical ?
similar experiments were carried out, like the Japanese and nothing happened ... they tried to measure the reaction of plants to the killers of neighbouring plants, and so forth ...

there were experiments in the USSR through the glass when held grains and one batch starved and the other fed his fill ... so that's like fed was acting as germination if the conditions are bad ... was a version of photon connection between the grains and sort of invented a way to drop bags for best germination

if you can record your experience and is guaranteed without a doubt clean the Nobel prize to you is guaranteed !!!

often we think that under the feet of miracles ... why are they invisible to others ? but they simply do not close when a scientific experiment ... that not only did botany with plants , the only not affected but no ... your experience is why it is unique ... and experiences are ...

by the way your experiences are similar to the allegations Lysenko ... he was refuted .....

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 0:08

Guest
First brother (a senior), then again one for fun. I wonder how he could play, and why, he offered the expertise to deliver. The second time when put experience, about grain nobody but me knew.

About uniqueness I wrote. And about are, but you never know in the world of miracles. I'm just the practical side of saw. Type here the emotional impact, so it is possible to try to develop the ability. And here Bronnikov once again came across well and convinced myself to try.

Even if I again hold the experience and post pictures of the bowls with the beans still anyone will be there and write that it's all photoshop. And doubt clean, you can always find.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 0:23

Carilo
if you're confident in the fact that in collaboration with scientists , you can count on the Nobel prize ...

my father in childhood he slipped articles about Madagascar dog-headed people and admiring my questions and the truth ? he said of course

as I grew older I with the bitterness of disappointment told him why lie ?

you and your brother were children and the game for you the primary factor ... in childhood we were sure we were called spirits and they come and was also the kid who wove nonsense and he believed in her confidence infecting others ... fact !!!

Bronnikov ?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 0:29

Bronnikov ? and what can Bronnikov ?
always wary of systems where the years are to hand "on their own" rise up if they had previously rested in the doorway

and on this basis to build the philosophy to understand that it is possible to apply believing and being engaged in Taekwondo for 30 years and in their subjective fantasies as a child ...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:06

Карил wrote:Chip Breenkova manifested in paired classes. One person works with another box. The second track experience. In the body objectively something is changing, so people in the subway and reacted to me. I not only rocked the bell, I did pumping standing above the stairs.

There is one rule - do Not ask, do not go... though leveling is nothing bad, sometimes even necessary to bring power to the person (for example, those who vampiric, but not his, but his own), but still no need to interfere in a field of strangers without their consent.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:15

Гость wrote:and who will bring the real facts of experiments on the effect on plants of a person's thoughts ?
and that Copperfield also says a lot of things ..

"The Source of Life" - since 2005, are monitoring the response of plants

This last observation,

http://www.levashov.info/Articles/Source-8+.html

there you can find - how it all began...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 17:02

Anonymous wrote:
Гость wrote:and who will bring the real facts of experiments on the effect on plants of a person's thoughts ?
and that Copperfield also says a lot of things ..

"The Source of Life" - since 2005, are monitoring the response of plants

This last observation,

http://www.levashov.info/Articles/Source-8+.html

there you can find - how it all began...

if you have this mixture of emotions and mnogabukav justification ... I read the diaries and are a lot chtayte about Satya SAI Baba !!!!! ... your standard of evidence ... delight the senses of paint and wonders ...

PS Copperfield cooler ... it and the video is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 17:12

about Levashov without trepidation
http://www.iriney.ru/sects/raznoe/026.htm

He clearly cites the following "scientific" achievements:

1) In January 1990, the power of thought has reduced contamination of the Chernobyl area, where radiation level was 6 times less than in Moscow.

2) In October 1991, for 5 minutes thinking clear all the rivers and reservoirs of the Arkhangelsk region and neutralize acid rain. After this "operation," water, according to Levashov, "is still the cleanest and the best in Russia."

3) In the United States stop the power of thought more than a dozen hurricanes, including in a matter of seconds neutralized hurricane Lili

4) Stop the power of thought fall of 2007 fires raged in California at the personal request of the us government

5) close the power of thought several ozone holes, as in Russia, as in other countries of the world.

6) Regular power of thought brings rain to places where there is drought

Full list of achievements "academics" can be viewed on his personal website. Taking into account the performance of Mr. Levashov all the environmental problems of the planet Earth can be solved within a week. Apparently, now "academic" is waiting for specific proposals, and subsequent awarding the order "the Pride of the world."

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 22:39

I want to remind you about a girl-x-ray. She had a spontaneous vision, which is very similar to the possibility of the third stage of Bronnikov. As far as I know this girl it is possible to find and be asked to demonstrate her abilities.

To supply something once again experience with beans... I don't know... You and your posts almost convinced me that I can't walk. And the fact that I have two legs and I somehow changing their location in space is merely the result of my raging imagination.

Логик · Post by **Логик** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 23:04

Карил wrote:And the fact that I have two legs and I somehow changing their location in space is merely the result of my raging imagination.

It's all self-hypnosis! Because this can't be!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 0:23

Carilo
Bronnikov has long been exposed and the video is full , the scrap look ...

here's an article from the fallen website

[ Area O Bender ]
When the blind see

Chapter from the book by Alexander Nikonov "Russian X-files"
Moscow, 2005
On the "method" Bronnikova
V. M. Bronnikov
The education of children by the method of Bronnikov

I sit at home. Peacefully picking his nose. Suddenly the doorbell rang. Pick up the phone. On the wire Novosibirsk academician Kruglyakov, Chairman of the Commission of Sciences to combat pseudoscience. "Contactees" and "alternative scientists" call it Torquemada and the Grand Inquisitor from the official science. And he - as, indeed, academician Ginzburg, and Sergei Kapitsa - just outraged by the dominance of unscientific mold in the media. Scientists have outraged the horoscopes in the Newspapers. Outraged by the mediocrity of the officials allocating to the study of "torsion fields" and other rubbish of a lot of money. And I fully understand specialists ignorance is very annoying, there is such a thing...

Kruglyakov was asked if I ever deal with "Dr. Bronnikov". And can I help in combating it?..

Was I dealing with Bronnikov?! Ha!..

Bronnikov in my life has long passed stage. Broken enemy that hides from me the dense forests and does not protrude, knowing that leaning out will immediately run up against a powerful fire.

- Of course, I've dealt with him, Edward p! And will try to help you to find him in the dense forests of the provincial press. And if you're lucky, we even in prison put him for fraud!

No, I'm not cruel. I'm a gambling.

...I first heard about Dr. Bronnikova in 1995. Then about a miracle doctor was a wave of films and publications. Which described how Dr. Bronnikov takes practically blind children and teaches them "inner vision." It looked so - trained child put on a blindfold, picked up a book, and the child through the blindfold began to read.

The investigation revealed that, first, the education Bronnikov an artist, not a doctor. Secondly, to the "doctor" Bronnikova brought their children parents not only visually impaired, but the normal children. Wanted their kids to have developed superpowers.

Swirling around bronikowski children legend says that a miracle-the children read the hand, elbow, ass. Can, lowering of the bed leg, heel to see what lies under the bed. Because they have opened the brain vision before the eye gets a visual picture. "How wonderful people! How great is his yet undiscovered by science powers!" - admired women in the offices.

Learning that is based "doctor" Bronnikov not just anywhere, but in the Belyaevsky my hometown sports complex Moscow Institute of steel and alloys, I decided to visit the Alma mater and meet with the magician. Bronnikov was a living man with a pointed beard and quick eyes. It hung on my ears something about the astral, about the internal energy that everyone can Wake up. Then bronikowski two teenage girls drove me to the other end of the corridor, to hands to show how much biofield at the person (they accepted me for the person). It turns out, my aura extended from the end of the corridor to bronikowskiego office!..

The upshot was that Bronnikov promised to send me to the editor a magic baby daddy. And his promise kept.

The next day I entered the room a huge, bulky daddy and his chubby son. We met. Dad habitually pulled out of his briefcase a mask... All okuchit Bronnikov parents sewing their children are mask - black thick fabric with Velcro at the back. And all the parents firmly believe that "doctor" Bronnikov give their children superpowers. Will not their children to deceive their own mom and dad!

The boy habitually wore a mask, stretched habitually opened my journal and began to read fluently. The boy's father habitually shone.

- Good, - praised I'm chubby. - Let the mask here. The boy took off the mask and habitually handed it to me. Bronnikova never hesitate to give your mask in the wrong hands. On the contrary, they do it with pleasure! Because through the mask do not see anything - put it to the eyes in this easy make sure the mask is completely opaque. But am I as simple as 90% of the population of the globe? Of course not. I tied on the face of the mask, straightened it. Darkness. Looked down... Well, of course! Between the edge of the bandage and hollow around the nose and cheeks - lye. Hole. I great read the text. But not out loud, not to confuse plump. Aloud told: - Experiment with the armband was successful. Continue. I took off my sweater and shook his head the young deceiver.

- Read. He didn't read.

Then I closed his eyes with hands:

- Read. I have not read.

I pulled the magazine from the bottom to the top:

Read across the table. He didn't read.

The explanation for all of these cases of failure the little rogue was prepared in advance: "your sweater (owner, table) emanates negative energy! She makes a noise in my inner vision."

Then I just put it in the hands of the magazine and asked him to read. Not only the page on which the journal was open. ATA, which is under it. In fact, why not? The paper is thinner because of the mask, for the internal view interference should not be.

He didn't read.

I have attached the log to the back of his head.

- Read. He didn't read.

- And why do you need to wear a mask? Why just not to close my eyes? I asked a question the answer on which knew. But I was curious about his version. The boy answered it is learned that the mask allows him to escape from the world and tune in for inner vision.

Actually the mask is needed to Bronnikova for the same, which the magician needed a cover for deception.

...My second encounter with Bronnikov and his promising children happened in a few years. I was invited (can not remember who) to shoot a documentary about the extraordinary powers of a person. The shooting took place in Sokolniki, in the room of the children's library. There the pupils of Bronnikov in black bandages on my eyes crawling on fours on the floor and accurately collected scattered colored cubes. The people around gasped in admiration. Among the crowd I saw an old friend of Samvel Garibyan. A few words about him...

Samvel Gharibyan - record holder in the Guinness book, which is inscribed not for spitting cherry pits for distance, but for a very unusual record. He, while still a student, has developed a mnemonic system for memorizing information. And using this system with one dictation memorized a thousand foreign words in several unfamiliar languages. The words he had uttered at intervals of 3 seconds. So, he memorized not only the order, and the sound of unfamiliar words and their translation into Russian! Record! If you remember at least five words in this mode, consider that you have a great memory... a Great man!

- Samvel, shut your mouth, there's about a nose position, - I whispered to Gariban, so he did not relax.

- Yes you that?!

In between takes Samvel took one of the kids the mask. Applied to the face and gasped:

- A hole!

Since then, he has become one of the biggest enemies of "doctor" Bronnikova. And as soon as Bronnikov somewhere POPs up, Samvel calls me and warns, "Surfaced." I charge up the torpedo tubes and shot in any national newspaper or magazine, deterred by raising the head of the enemy.

...But the most revealing (or rather "unreliable" - then you will understand why) meeting with the "doctor" Bronnikov I had on NTV. The name of the program don't exactly remember, but in form it resembled the trial - the defendant, the plaintiff, the judge... the program has faced skeptics and people who believe in miracles. One of the witnesses from the skeptics I spoke, "miracles" showed little crooks "doctor" Bronnikova.

One of them came out on the witness stand, put on the mask and the eyes of the amazed audience has read the text. The judge asked for his mask, applied to the eyes:

- Opaque!

Then he came to the podium, your obedient servant, took the child a mask, having the edge of the eye to note how the fear of exposure runs off somewhere backstage Bronnikov, put it on and just as easy as before me did the child read the text.

As I remember, a defender from the "chudesnikov" was a special girl from "Kommersant" - Natalia Gevorkyan. Judging by her dark eyes and anxious looks, she seriously believe in any devilry. Therefore, immediately aloud suggested that the witness (I mean I) just a psychic who has psychic powers himself, but is trying to mislead the court... People love to believe in miracles.

Incidentally, the episode with the exposure of pupils Bronnikov NTV of the programs were cut. People love to believe in miracles...

However, realizing that it gets hot, Bronnikov has changed tactics. He decided to go with the other hand moved to Peter and began to fuck a Natalia Bekhterev...

What can I say for Natalia Bekhterev? Granddaughter of the famous academician V. M. Bekhterev - a very difficult fate. She was a prominent scientist in 1977 Bekhterev even awarded the gold medal named after her grandfather "for the cycle of works on research of the neurophysiological bases of higher mental functions of the human brain". But in old age, after a series of personal tragedies, spondylitis has changed - dramatically believed and became like a child. Using her children's credulity, Bronnikov and screwing the old lady around the finger. The result was a series of publications, is backed by the reputable name of spondylitis, that the people de, can see without eyes! Little we still know about the mysteries of the human brain!

Of course, colleagues from the Academy of Sciences, to put it mildly, scolded spondylitis for these "scientific" studies. Spondylitis terribly offended, even wanted to sue. About it told me, and saddened by what is happening academician Kruglyakov. I only language photocal...

The changes that happened with Bechtereva, truly is great. Not to play the role of a damaged phone, I will give a word of spondylitis. As you are, for example, scientific reasoning about prophetic dreams: "We can... in my sleep to get in contact either with the higher mind, or God. With Someone who has knowledge about the future... I believe in God and had occasion to see for myself the possibilities of religion. This belief came to me after I experienced very much of what is outside of human endurance -- No, I was not a depression, it was a condition that I have seen and heard more than is necessary to see and hear the common man. I've seen strange things, heard strange sounds...".

She heard voices and saw things that nobody saw. In this all the current spondylitis, give her the God of health...

Still, the human desire to believe in miracles - the most wonderful that may be in the world! Why such a cheap trick as peeping from under the blindfold, causes noise all over the country, why it is the basis of the "doctor" Bronnikov recruit new followers, and a hundred times more complex focus Yury Mountain these emotions causes? The mountain puts on closed eyes nickels (five-ruble coins), top teleplay crude rubber, bandaging it all the opaque blindfold, and then his head put on a black bag that tied around the neck. Then Yuri Mountain sits in the car and drives the car on the street or in the stadium, going round the pins. The question is, where rending his shirt fans? Where a myriad of fans? Do not have them. Because the Mountain does not hide:

Is the focus. And you morons, who the fuck solved. And even you, Sasha, I will not tell you the secret: it's my bread and butter.

The focus it is the focus of the circus. But the Bronnikov scammer claims to be a miracle. It is quite another thing...

Show people naked ass - they will laugh. Write it on your ass, the word "God" - they will fall to his knees.

and here's a bonus ... sly bandage ... in the middle of the video
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Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:41

Гость wrote:Carilo
Bronnikov has long been exposed and the video is full , the scrap look ...

here's an article from the fallen website
Quote:
[ Area O. Bender ]
When the blind see...

The denial of everything - among other things cool and energy efficient sewn!

But just stop the development of...

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:41

You guests would have so much time you not too lazy to write, register be bothered.

The following article is in the middle between the Ahi - "They see" and kami - "Bronnikov, quack." As you can see I read all the articles. Also talked to the students at the school, talk on forums, including one Amateur. How many can say I wouldn't have to deal with the system without reason.

Seeing the children researched at this time scientists, not journalists. Changing their bandages, and they stopped to see... for a while, then rebuilt a vision again and seen through an opaque blindfold. Also wore them instead of bandage zinc bucket, through which children are unable to see.

Concluded that hypersensitivity of view, able to catch a few rays of light still passing through the blindfold. And based on the pouring out of light quanta, the brain draws a picture.

For me even this conclusion is sufficient to deal with this system. The disappearance of seasonal acute respiratory disease, energy (i.e. vigor), victory over, folk, lively, and vivid imagination - is this enough?

суисеки · Post by **суисеки** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:04

Карил wrote:You would you so much time guests not too lazy to write, register be bothered.

Hello

соник · Post by **соник** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:34

Karil, I'm sorry that did not immediately give the answer, there were problems with the Internet. Now I will try to give my point of view on "Ray". Again, nothing mystical and anything related to the "thin worlds", I do not see.
Based on the exercises the following: the installation, the presence of dominants which form an altered state of consciousness and against the background of which is formed a paradoxical phase in Vedeno, where a weak stimulus(the heat from the finger or hand, etc.) have a more intense impact than strong stimuli.
The basis of the parlor-self-hypnosis in its purest form .If it were possible to experiment on animals, they would not show any difference in exposure.

суисеки · Post by **суисеки** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:53

sonic

but if on the palm to work with your finger, and say with colored paper...

closing your eyes, you hold your hand on colored paper, someone will change it... in the palm of feeling different from color to color... the color is not visible, but it feels different... and you have to call without seeing the color feels.

explain how self-hypnosis works ?