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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 26, 2010 16:58

Хозяин wrote:in the Apocrypha and in many liturgical texts of Christianity is the crucifixion used the phrase "hanging on a tree."
More is not better. :)
According to the four Gospels Judas hanged on the tree...
Хозяин wrote:for the ancient Jews was a shame to be in public without clothes
The Jews got nothing to do with. The penalty was not invented for the Jews but for all. For example, Negro slaves.
The same fate exposed and the Jews.
Хозяин wrote:not Zra on the shroud of Turin
The hoax will not be considered - just the facts.
Хозяин wrote:as soon as the forces left executed in a matter of minutes, it was death by suffocation.
Not fit this hypothesis. According to common sense. People, relatives, friends of the deceased through the fault of the executed criminal had to get to the place of execution is to spit in the face of this very criminal to make fun of him - therefore he was not supposed to die before their time. That is why the soldiers were given water, and a piercing sword or spear, under the heart was the greatest mercy, not in order to sure that guy was a criminal or not.

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Post by Логик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 17:26

Here is the world built of g-d.
And this boobies,
which always confused the demons
in a world built B-G.

And it is people unhappy,
they're boobies,
which always confused the demons
in a world built B-G.

But this punishment is terrible,
people who suffer accidents,
they're boobies,
which always confused the demons
in a world built B-G.

And that the powers of heaven,
that sends a terrible punishment,
people who suffer accidents,
they're boobies,
which always confused the demons
in a world built B-G.

But it is the law, only God known
which is subject to the forces of heaven,
that sends a terrible punishment,
people who suffer accidents,
they're boobies,
which always confused the demons
in a world built B-G.

And this is GD,
which could not
neither change nor to correct the laws are known
which is subject to the forces of heaven,
that sends a terrible punishment,
people who suffer accidents,
they're boobies,
which always confused the demons
in a world built B-G.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Jan 26, 2010 17:43

Anonymous wrote:
Шалтай Балтай wrote:and what is a complete translation of Barnabas in Russian?

link!
I thought maybe the translation is wrong, and therefore not read. :?
http://www.agni-yoga.net/BASE/hrist/index.html
well so about what and speech
20 pages, 5 of which - Preface
compare: http://barnabas.net/barnabas.doc
127 pages
there is a difference?

IMHO
Evangelia in Russian - not
it's just excerpts
who says that reading? - sorry - it is unlikely

PS
Islam ru - say FSB shny website
PTS. looks like
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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Jan 26, 2010 17:47

Logik +1

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 19:11

Logik
in addition to abuse in one form or another is nothing left?it is normal for such humanoids like you.in real life you would have me and the two words did not say,fear would be your diarrhea through his pants with both hands caught it so shyly blushed and apologized.you are not the first.I have seen too many such "brave" :) :) .and the Internet.it can endure.go ahead.only it is still ugly you write the word "God" for some reason,then the subconscious mind-all the feels...the cerebellum protests,while the demons in the subcortex frolic...well, that's fine az

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Хозяин wrote:it is normal for such humanoids like you.in real life you would have me and the two words did not say,fear would be your diarrhea through his pants with both hands caught it so shyly blushed and apologized.you are not the first.I have seen too many such "brave"
Indeed! That emit some and attract... :?

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Post by Логик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 19:20

Хозяин wrote:in addition to abuse in one form or another is nothing left?
You deserve what you get.
Хозяин wrote:it is normal for such humanoids like you.in real life you would have me and the two words did not say
Another would have his teeth knocked out, Cup your other cheek Christian!
Хозяин wrote:from fear of all is your diarrhea through his pants with both hands caught it so shyly blushed and apologized
With his diarrhea figure it out, slave! This is for you God has ordained I'm afraid. Your fear others do not ascribe! Where is the promised quote from a Muslim, to which I allegedly fearing not answered? It was not useless lying!
I and thy God krovavogo not afraid, and you even more!

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 19:23

Anonymous wrote:
Хозяин wrote:in the Apocrypha and in many liturgical texts of Christianity is the crucifixion used the phrase "hanging on a tree."
More is not better. :)
According to the four Gospels Judas hanged on the tree...
Хозяин wrote:for the ancient Jews was a shame to be in public without clothes
The Jews got nothing to do with. The penalty was not invented for the Jews but for all. For example, Negro slaves.
The same fate exposed and the Jews.
Хозяин wrote:not Zra on the shroud of Turin
The hoax will not be considered - just the facts.
Хозяин wrote:as soon as the forces left executed in a matter of minutes, it was death by suffocation.
Not fit this hypothesis. According to common sense. People, relatives, friends of the deceased through the fault of the executed criminal had to get to the place of execution is to spit in the face of this very criminal to make fun of him - therefore he was not supposed to die before their time. That is why the soldiers were given water, and a piercing sword or spear, under the heart was the greatest mercy, not in order to sure that guy was a criminal or not.
wow,facts?what are you then svizdite?for you, the very existence of Jesus Christ is not a fact?where did you get information that "relatives should get there in time?" .whence these data?what kind of water?themselves the Roman soldiers drank vinegar with the herbal bitterness lisoivanova origin.if executed this way, the Jew,the penalty had to be performed before sunset.therefore, executed the Jew broke his legs with a club.what gittoes on my part?I can take the trouble to quote from the places where I read it,but you reading and reading comprehension pobremente.
do you think that went "from the guest" and you just style of speech has changed?hehe....<

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 19:26

in short,citizens are Satanists and metrosexuals.
I'm tired of you butt,not so much with you but with the deficiencies of your education and the state of your psyche.I urge you not to believe in what I do,so no conversation.well, when you feel like shit--crap in the toilet.good luck looking for!

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Post by Логик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 19:26

From the "Holy" books
The MAIN COMMANDMENT of JESUS CHRIST: "resist Not evil" (Matthew 5:39).


1. Who to love?

"You have heard that it was said love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:43-44).


2. Who to hate?

"...if anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple" (Luke 14:26).

3. The Purpose Of Jesus

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; not peace I have come to bring, but a sword, for I came to set a man against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes - his own household" (Matthew 10:34).

"Think ye that I am come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division; for from now on five in one house divided, three against two and two against three: the father shall be divided against the son, and the son against his father; mother against daughter, and daughter against mother; mother-in-law against daughter-in-law, and daughter-in-law against her mother in law" (Luke 12:51).


4. The creation of a submissive, patient, humble and weak-willed slaves

"You have heard that it was said, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. And I say unto you, resist not evil. But whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other, and who wants to take your tunic, let him have your cloak also" (Matthew 5:38-40).

"All power is from God." "The will of God."

Christian mentors are called shepherds. Shepherd - a shepherd herding his flock. Flock – a flock of humanoid species. The herd itself is composed of lambs of God. Lamb is a sheep.


5. Propaganda dementia, weakness of will, intellectual and spiritual degradation.
"Blessed are the POOR in SPIRIT, for theirs is the Kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:3).


6. The destruction of the best and promoting the scum and dregs of society to the top

"So the last shall be first and the first last" (Matthew 20:16). The continuation of the Christians - a band of Communists, expressed it in the principle: "Who was nothing will become everything".


7. Fishing and the destruction of the stupid and gullible souls.

"He who loves his life shall lose it; and he who hates his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal" (John 12:25).

"Then said Jesus unto His disciples, if anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me, for whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake shall find it" (Matthew 16:24-25).


8. Christian krivopishina and cannibalism (communion). Christ is his disciples called:
"Unless you eat the Flesh of the Son of man and drink His Blood, ye shall not have life in yourselves." (John 6:53-54, the same Mark 14:22-24).


9. Propaganda sidelobe.
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God" (Matthew 19:24).

"Lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth" (Matthew 6:19).


10. Racism and chauvinism. The relation of Christ to the Gentiles as animals.

"And behold a woman of Canaan came out from those borders, and cried unto him: have mercy on me, Lord, son of David; my daughter is severely possessed by a demon. But he answered her not a word. And His disciples came and besought Him, saying, send her away, for she cries after us. He answered, ' I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. But she came and worshiped Him, saying, Lord, Help me. He said in reply: it is not meet to take the children's bread and to cast it to DOGS" ( Matthew 15:22 - 28 ) .



Myself, I remind that we are talking about what the BIBLE SAYS. About what Christ said in fact, we can only guess.
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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 19:27

Логик wrote:
Хозяин wrote:in addition to abuse in one form or another is nothing left?
You deserve what you get.
Хозяин wrote:it is normal for such humanoids like you.in real life you would have me and the two words did not say
Another would have his teeth knocked out, Cup your other cheek Christian!
Хозяин wrote:from fear of all is your diarrhea through his pants with both hands caught it so shyly blushed and apologized
With his diarrhea figure it out, slave! This is for you God has ordained I'm afraid. Your fear others do not ascribe! Where is the promised quote from a Muslim, to which I allegedly fearing not answered? It was not useless lying!
I and thy God krovavogo not afraid, and you even more!
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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Tue Jan 26, 2010 19:39

Friends,let's take it down a notch.Interesting topic I and many others read it with interest.I think it is worth to continue the dialogue,but without the "scuffle" :)

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Jan 26, 2010 19:50

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Friends,let's take it down a notch.Interesting topic I and many others read it with interest.I think it is worth to continue the dialogue,but without the "scuffle" :)
religion is impossible without the massacre.

continue :-)

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Post by Логик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 19:59

Andrey Kabanovcould be no massacre, but for the market to answer it. Attributed to me that I didn't, Joe blow. Here is the proof:
Логик wrote:
Хозяин wrote:here recently there was a question,asked it,apparently,a devout Muslim on a similar topic.you Logik(I professionally have a good memory)then just was online and was present in the subject.why you didn't react that violently to a similar question
First time a good memory - do not be unfounded, quote question.

Your words the Owner never confirmed, was to be lied! Liar not responsible for the market!
Хозяин wrote:while is not(since the startposteru)questioning my faith--I'm on this topic is silent
Came when the conversation was zakonchilsa, and let's have a new conflict to ignite. It was a shame that without him the result, not in favor of its God came.
Everyone who was in this thread have subsided, only the Ownerdo not wait to assert themselves. So began the new...
How does such a person not to punch you?!

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Post by Логик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 20:08

Шалтай Балтай wrote:religion is impossible without the massacre.
That's for sure! Adherents of various religions successfully kill each other. This and the Bible teaches!

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 26, 2010 21:23

Хозяин wrote:do you think that went "from the guest" and you just style of speech has changed?hehe....
And this spring started! :lol:

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 26, 2010 22:00

Хозяин wrote:Pysy:communication style can be seen even "with the Guest",so the "--show your face!" :roll: bi :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)
Maniac are just some. :?

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Fri Jan 29, 2010 22:35

Логик wrote:Andrew Kabankovcould be no massacre, but for the market to answer it. Attributed to me that I didn't, Joe blow. Here is the proof:

How does such a person not to punch you?!
Oh well,he would, for the market has learned to respond.and or insults or squeal.and to punch...it is possible.don't cry,jaw I not break...Adam's Apple to snatch can :lol: but it's not about that.with you I'm not interested to talk.rude to themselves.you can not even answer.for your squealing, I will not respond here further.although your panic and I sympathize.
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for the rest,I can say that in the thread "questions from buyers" was the question,I'm just too lazy to shovel a bunch of pages.the gist of it was that people were interested in how to be-MM disks cause different States(although I think that most rarely or headache more or less relaxation),and he,this man consider themselves Muslim believers.then he was given the answer that dumbbells faith will not be destroyed.anyone interested should look.
with regards to faiths and Beliefs...the Bible long ago(not by me )seen by the fact-its interpretation depends on the attitude of the reader. The Bible being used by the representatives of the various cults seen in the 90s my aunt,who used the Bible to enter into a trance.God is her judge.the reading of the Psalter(one of the books of the Bible) at least establishes nights sleep.
here was the view of a Satanist on the book of job.frankly,having read it the first time,I was somewhat horrified.actually,the question is raised,cared for people, how much is this World-why the righteous suffers.this book was not written by Semites. if it is to proceed from its initial plot.most likely,job was or Samaritan or resident areas to the South of Palestine. the genre of this book is called "theodicy",the most famous of the surviving books of this genre--the so-called"Babylonian theodicy".in ancient Babylon,along with cults--predecessors of faith in the true God,there were destructive beliefs on the topic of the day so to speak.and people have always been concerned with the question:"why bastard lives better than the righteous?"
the plot of the book of job what:apparently,at a time when it has not yet reached the war in which Satan and his angels were thrown down there.where they are now,but at the creation of man,the devil came to God and suggested:"the righteous,he is righteous only because he fed,clothed,wife,model, 600й mers under the window, and handed the business centre to rent."and take away everything from him--and he was the first to curse God.this conversation was started in the first place,to blaspheme God.the contention in heaven started because of dissatisfaction with the part of the angels the creation of man.thus,the humiliated person,the devil would be humiliated and scolded God.but God,as we know,is not mocked.
here in my address were heard cries of "slave".I agree,to me there is nothing wrong to consider himself a slave to God.because I am aware that from the coincidence of the atoms of the person would not have happened,and about any monkey in a dozen polished Lomov answer--anchor bolt,it will make people.Job, too, felt a slave to God. and thus was able to show the situation back.
same position and job.as we remember,at first he had chosen wealth,then the offspring,and then he was covered with leprosy.here job makes a very correct step. it relies on the will of God. he says:"I dust and to dust you shall return."I will not describe how he was persuaded to blaspheme God first, his wife,and then friends, colleagues...his wife, his crotch felt full says Lajoie.she said,"pachuli God and die",that is,she understood.he advises something ,to put it mildly ,wrong.
Job,as we know,stood firm. with God, there are three possible ways of communication.1st--slave.for fear of posthumous retribution for sodeyanom here.2nd--zaradi entering the Kingdom of heaven.the path of a mercenary.3rd way-the way of brotherly affection for God.fraternal relations.all Scripture suggests that just such a conversation with the person God wants.
regarding the "our Jewish God,"even the most proszenko atheistic archaeological and anthropological research suggests that people originally lived on the territory of modern Palestine,Egypt and Mesopotamia.no one is to blame,that the proud Aryans,and especially the Slavs, then still in the project did not exist.
I know the whole of Ezo literature that are now published in millions of copies.somehow, now,I open any "truly Ancient-Slavic Vedas",and why-that all Slavic world(...)is based somehow on the system of the Sephiroth...I am not inclined anyone to impose their views,I understand the follower of any faith and an atheist believe...at least what I did not want to propagandize,but for some reason the majority of my peers(and me a lot) that when we were 20 years old,I read Blavatsky wrote heavenly dictations from Shambhala,now for some reason,gave up their beliefs.all,for some reason the monasteries ride,that is trying to atone for.there is ,incidentally,not among my friends.all read "diagnostics of karma"?there are 11 volumes,I think. and about the change of views of the author no one knows anything?ask....<

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Post by Логик » Fri Jan 29, 2010 23:36

Oh, I see! Sir You Done Lied!
Хозяин wrote:.and to punch...it is possible.don't cry,jaw I not break...Adam's Apple to snatch can
The only thing you can break is your fingers on the keyboard. At the same time cry and scream.
Хозяин wrote:you can not even answer.for your squealing, I respond I will not continue here
Yes, you are not able to thrusites, for your lies, that you do not want to answer!
You repeatedly lied to me. Lied publicly, was to be lied to all forum users! I can understand that. You are a liar, like your father. The father of lies.
Хозяин wrote:even though your panic and I sympathize.
The third day, the song remains the same. Fear is your, the original, the Christian sense. You and God, I'm afraid. And good people are not afraid.
You are afraid, so lzhote. Write what was not.This is quite understandable.
Хозяин wrote:for the rest,I can say that in the thread "questions from buyers" was the question,I'm just too lazy to shovel a bunch of pages.
Because they do not exist, liar. That is justified, descote lazy... And wants to save face by lying not once. Of course, I fear the Muslim did not answer, afraid that he'll find me and this. :lol: This could write only a Sicko Christian.
Even from your words it is clear that a Muslim (if he was, that is not true), his views or who do not impose a separate topic was not opened. Or wrote - think again and repent!
Хозяин wrote:here was the view of a Satanist on the book of job
Answer for the market and as always, the language of 3.14 zdet is not tossing bags?
Хозяин wrote:regarding the "our Jewish God,"even the most proszenko atheistic archaeological and anthropological research suggests that people originally lived on the territory of modern Palestine,Egypt and Mesopotamia.no one is to blame,that the proud Aryans,and especially the Slavs, then still in the project did not exist.
The truth is the liar? 90 miles from my city, is arch. I do not whether Jews lived there? And the Slavic ancient Jewish calendar. The chronology of the creation of the world, also the Slavs came up with yourself? Where did the 7.5 tictac years calendar from the creation of the world?
Хозяин wrote:here in my address were heard cries of "slave".I agree,to me there is nothing wrong to consider himself a slave of God
Yes there is nothing wrong. And humiliating it is. For a free man.
To call a slave a slave, he used to have. Non-responsive. The spirit of resistance broken. Remained only the desire to obey.
The Bible God made man in his image and likeness. And if you are a servant of God, your God, whose servant?<

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:32

well, you're not going trizetto all of your Slavic tales of freedom was invented by the Jews? :lol:
by the way,I do not recall(too lazy to read your diarrhea)--what I'm there to lie?recall please?

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Post by Логик » Sun Jan 31, 2010 18:52

Хозяин wrote:Slavic tales of freedom was invented by the Jews
Yeah, the Jews invented, and not invented, attributed to himself in hindsight.
Хозяин wrote:by the way,I do not recall(too lazy to read your diarrhea)--what I'm there to lie?please remind
Who has what hurts, he is talking about! Your diarrhea should be treated, and then teach others! Here and would rather not spend too much time on the forum. If you're not going to read and too lazy to lift his head up, then why ask again? Still it will not be read. How convenient to forget when out and about than lying, such as not lying at all...
But more recently referred to his professional memory
Хозяин wrote:(I professionally have a good memory)
Quote from the 5th page of this thread.
And now, the memory became bad. Again, lying and lying!

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Post by Просто_идущий » Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:25

Hello all!
Logics.
Here is the world built of g-d.
And this boobies,
which always confused the demons
in a world built B-G.

And it is people unhappy,
they're boobies,
which always confused the demons
in a world built B-g...
Why do You hate Christianity and believers are constantly pitching their FAITH?
Humpty-Baltay.
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"... And we will go North!..."
Humpty Baltay wrote(a):
The owner wrote(a):
the more I read all of these terribly advanced apocryphal writings,the more understand-why are they rejected


The more I talk to Christians the more obvious it becomes that they are simply brainwashed.
just look at Zeitgeist
everything is painted in detail.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Look wider. Wonder WHY was released this film, whose money and for what purpose..?
Ideological (cold) war with the Soviet collapse is not over.
Our ancestors went to battle with the enemies, smashing the enemy die for "FAITH, TSAR and FATHERLAND".
So, the purpose of this film, using the powerful techniques of psychological influence, to destroy in man everything that can be trusted. Or thinking people without this film had no idea (did not know) about corruption, about the use of religion for their own purposes the powers that be, etc.
By the way, from the opus Logic is evident - the film achieves its goals.
So it is not a forum destroys faith in God.

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