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Жека3000 · Post by **Жека3000** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 16:36

I have a question:
Why nothing happens to me from listening Conductor?
The first 2 times I listened and was really visual images and real-i.e., how the video look. And nothing to do with the objectives it had! All I listened 7 times and five subsequent times nothing happened! Once asleep, was very tired, didn't dream, woke up when he started to play the disk in for 2 minutes. In fact nothing remarkable happened.
The bottom line:
---2 times were visual images(bright and clear) - the meaning is obscure, like a vivid dream, visual design thoughts prior to the audition.
---once asleep.
the other 5 times just listened and nothing happened...
To drink do not want neither before nor after.
What am I doing wrong?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 17:26

Жека3000 wrote:Why is nothing going on with me from listening Conductor?

And what, someone promised?

Жека3000 wrote:the First 2 times I listened and was really visual images and real-i.e., how the video look. And nothing to do with the objectives it had!

And You have determined that you did not have? Typically, the images metaphorically, to understand them, we must do some work...

Жека3000 wrote:the other 5 times just listened and nothing happened...

So You bulirova first experience - what is the meaning of Your Subconscious mind to try next?
When engaging with the disk does not have anything to expect. Best to just let one keep track of their thoughts, marking the start and end of each, and especially not to engage in value judgments about the thoughts feelings and images...

Жека3000 · Post by **Жека3000** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 18:01

Андрей Патрушев wrote:And You have determined that you did not have? Typically, the images metaphorically, to understand them, we must do some work...

Determined logically. Because the lack (at the time)
my father's house could not affect the ability to realize dreams!
In General now all the images I don't remember, but I remember that they were all related to everyday thoughts and no meaning is not carried, it is possible to compare that day that I saw, and at night it was a dream!

So You bulirova first experience - what is the meaning of Your Subconscious mind to try next?

How do I revoked?
I believed and listened after that! stopped listening not because I got tired of, were the reasons.

When engaging with the disk does not have anything to expect.

I was expecting nothing, watched his sensations and images. Each subsequent time the condition became more and more superficial. I.e. the first time the deepest, the last time even did not change state.

Maybe the volume depend on? First time listening to the loudest, the last time the quietest.?

Агент Смит · Post by **Агент Смит** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 23:00

Жека3000
I have the lessons with the Conductor had a similar phase: after the first 4-5 sessions also started easy-listening and and it was even tedious - just lie and listen to almost half an hour, but then I realized that the whole thing deep relaxation. In other words, it is necessary to "force" yourself to relax, to treat it as a special procedure, tune (then and purpose you can think of) and how to anticipate "something", but not to wait for a specific effect. The wait can be subconscious, it and not feel it.
By the way, I almost the entire second half of the course overslept (did not work before 12 hours the night before class to get to, and there is only to go and ready to stop but didn't want) and then even once doubted the effectiveness of such activities (not the disk and its approach), but in a few months with surprise I began to discover I'm completely new properties: where I had previously broke, I was almost still; negative thoughts I used to be able to drive in circles infinitely and drive themselves in a very bad mood, I just began to ignore. Perhaps affected by another session of MM, I was constantly engaged with the alpha sessions from Andrey Patrushev (especially liked the session to work with negative emotions, I left it in the machine as "the tablet experience" - as soon as all crap in my mind, include it and after 15 minutes of complete is OK), but this only confirms that the main thing - a constancy, and belief in the overall effect, but not waiting for it.

Алив · Post by **Алив** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 23:28

Агент Смит wrote:I was constantly doing with the alpha sessions from Andrey Patrushev (especially liked the session to work with negative emotions, I left it in the machine as "the tablet experience"

And where to take these sessions?

Агент Смит · Post by **Агент Смит** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 23:34

Aliv

Алив wrote:where can I take these sessions?

http://www.mindmachine.ru/sessions.htm

Жека3000 · Post by **Жека3000** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:21

Агент Смит wrote:in Other words, it is necessary to "force" yourself to relax

With relaxation problems. I relax very Well from the Conductor almost always. Yesterday I decided to listen to, he relaxed very well, was half asleep while listening. Only here visual images are invisible! The feeling after listening, you want to warm up.

Артемчик · Post by **Артемчик** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 16:40

Hello everyone!
That question is asked - will not increase if the efficiency of the Conductor when listening to it with the MM session, such as on the inner session L03 (increased susceptibility to suggestion).
Can anyone tried it?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 16:53

Артемчик wrote:Hello everyone!
That question is asked - will not increase if the efficiency of the Conductor when listening to it with the MM session, such as on the inner session L03 (increased susceptibility to suggestion).
Can anyone tried it?

Hello!
No, it won't.

In Explorer, my matrix sound frequencies plus audiostrobe. The overlay will lead to a mess in my head...

Артемчик · Post by **Артемчик** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:25

Thanks for the reply, this applies to all Your drives?
And one more request - can you recommend what color to color the tracks better suited to each of Your disk.
(I have almost all Your disks)

Агент Смит · Post by **Агент Смит** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:22

Жека3000 wrote:Only here visual images are invisible! The feeling after listening, you want to warm up.

I in Explorer too did not see anything and even sometimes off his glasses and listened to only with headphones, and a week later I saw in some session MM very bright images (at the same time I started with a Guide and a machine), but in Explorer they almost never appeared. So what? It's not designed for entertainment and the lack of images is not an indicator of lack of effect of the disk.
By the way, later in the sessions of the MM images became more and music audiostrobe disks they were, and in Healing them again, but apparently this is my perception of what you need to do is listen Healing and other disks? It is possible that the repeated passage of the Conductor that will appear.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:27

Артемчик wrote:Thanks for the reply, this applies to all Your drives?
And one more request - can you recommend what color to color the tracks better suited to each of Your disk.
(I have almost all Your disks)

Yes, to all.

Any that You like...

КАА1970 · Post by **КАА1970** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 15:43

It's time to recommendations for the Conductor to make a questionnaire with an offer to fill it before and after listening.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 17:14

КАА1970 wrote:it's Time to recommendations for the Conductor to make a questionnaire with an offer to fill it before and after listening.

In the user recommendation is to keep a diary.

КАА1970 · Post by **КАА1970** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 17:32

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
КАА1970 wrote:it's Time to recommendations for the Conductor to make a questionnaire with an offer to fill it before and after listening.
In the user recommendation is to keep a diary.

Here only as it to correct? Here talent is needed

And here is the finished questions twice to answer most of the abilities enough. And in the process look and remember something...

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 17:35

КАА1970 wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:
КАА1970 wrote:it's Time to recommendations for the Conductor to make a questionnaire with an offer to fill it before and after listening.
In the user recommendation is to keep a diary.
Here only as it to correct? Here talent is needed
And here is the finished questions twice to answer most of the abilities enough. And in the process look and remember something...

The idea is clear - thank you!
It's impossible to sarahlamantia in life...

Артемчик · Post by **Артемчик** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:15

Dear Andrei Patrushev!
If You don't mind, answer one more my question.

In Dinette is the concept of CLERGY - the state of absolute mental health. Is it possible to reach this state or close to it, listening to the Conductor or other Your drives. Certainly not for 21 days, and a year or two, three?
Or listening, as they say, just "oiling the wheels" ?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:36

Артемчик wrote:Dear Andrey Patrushev!
If You don't mind, answer one more my question.

In Dinette is the concept of CLERGY - the state of absolute mental health. Is it possible to reach this state or close to it, listening to the Conductor or other Your drives. Certainly not for 21 days, and a year or two, three?
Or listening, as they say, just "oiling the wheels" ?

Try it, then tell...

Алив · Post by **Алив** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:57

Артемчик wrote:Dear Andrey Patrushev!
If You don't mind, answer one more my question.

In Dinette is the concept of CLERGY - the state of absolute mental health. Is it possible to reach this state or close to it, listening to the Conductor or other Your drives. Certainly not for 21 days, and a year or two, three?
Or listening, as they say, just "oiling the wheels" ?

The state of clear is the full neutralization of the reactive mind. Apart from Dianetics auditing, I think, to use other methods of deprogramming, such as Aspektima or peat. I also want to try to use the discs and mindmachine in the process of auditing. I wonder who else did that?

Александр79 · Post by **Александр79** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 14:35

I'm sorry, but explain how to attach the disks to a MM? From the old MM connection via com-port which I have a hundred years not seen

Really want to combine MM with maximum effect.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 14:57

The forum is a sticky topic...

Алив · Post by **Алив** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 15:09

Александр79 wrote:I'm sorry, but explain how to attach the disks to a MM? From the old MM connection via com-port which I have a hundred years not seen Really want to combine MM with maximum effect.

Using audio input

Артемчик · Post by **Артемчик** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:45

Aliv
IMHO, the Explorer is also somehow neutralizes some engrams in the reactive mind. But I want to read Andrew forever if they neytralizuya? And whether a Guide to "remove" the strongest engrams, for example, which are laid down in moments of unconsciousness.
I also think that the alpha session on MM facilitates easy and rapid immersion into a state of reverie, although he tried not to audit me.

Алив · Post by **Алив** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:44

Артемчик wrote:Aliv
I think that the alpha session on MM facilitates easy and rapid immersion into a state of reverie, although he tried not to audit me.

Similar problem I also nobody to audit. About engrams - I think that it is impossible to fully neutralize. Technical means the auditor will not replace.

By the way, it would be interesting to see how Hubbard treated tekhologii AVS, because the first mind machines appeared during the life of Ron.

Александр86 · Post by **Александр86** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 13:38

From the instruction to the Conductor

Before you start the meditation session, define your goals, ideally in writing. You can make a long list, but every lesson put in front of a one - two. First, put a small, very specific (the result) and achievable (at this stage of Your development) goals.

Andrew, and please clarify the following point:
My goal is now to improve health, there are some problems him. But it's not a small goal and 1 lesson for her to achieve. How, then, to be here? What purpose, then, to put?