Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

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1Андрей1
well... as they say -- or one of the two

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and observe the consistency: first connect your device to your computer, and then ran the prog for flashing... otherwise it crashes

I have the opposite. First the program, then the Navigator otherwise it crashes.

Ask until normal flight.

That's how it is, and I have absolutely no difference forward to "connect" or "run" if the program run from the Quick launch or via the directory on the start menu, the Windows XP cuts down on reboot, and if using the shortcut on the Desktop, then everything is in order without incident. Miracles, and only....... Reflash 1.16*, works rules, by the way, and yesterday's version was used in the mode base session and Strobe recording, haven't noticed anything, it worked fine.


Sincerely, MAG.no 〠

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1Андрей1
well... as they say -- or one of the two

.......of the three


Sincerely, MAG.no 〠

[Алексей Крячко__]

the only weird thing-on мп3шках diodes flicker with periodic failures of vertical rows i.e. vertical row may turn off... it happens naturally and simultaneously in both eyes, i.e., to the left off the series/right on each eye... sometimes go out the rows which are closer to the nose, sometimes those who are further away from the nose... BUT the blink rate does not change i.e. other diodes continue to flicker... on wav, this is not -- there all the diodes flicker simultaneously... probably features mp3

generally speaking, the difference in flicker is obtained only if you have a strobe mode-decoder "chords" when the upper rows and lower flicker frequency other than the one in the middle row, which actually come in the gates. The rows at the same mean horizontal, not vertical... the Difference in the shimmer of the middle and lower. and top. rows is determined by the ratios may vary significantly. All this is described in the instructions. When the mode is "shared" then all rows work the same way from the gates of audio recordings.
As for the strobe to mp3, then theoretically it shouldn't work, in short playing the gate track is focused only on wav, because in this format all played without distortion caused by compression and decoding, which are mp3's. In short, we as manufacturers do not guarantee operation of the player while playing gate-tracks to mp3, according to technical conditions this mode is designed to wav.

If it was possible to encode lossless to mp3 strobe recording, they would have already went on the Internet due to their size, and gate disks no longer sold...

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Alexey Kryachko__
vertical rows behave when they do not have lower the setting LD on one or two points... it's from a previous firmware observations... it would be nice if were able to tweak the sensitivity of the gate manually...

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Alexey Kryachko__
it would be nice if were able to tweak the sensitivity of the gate manually...

no, it won't be. In General it is clear how this can occur : when the gate is on one, then on the other channel decreases below the configured threshold. And it is configured from the maximum level minus the attenuation to 10 dB, this is enough to work PROPERLY at all, the gate tracks, where there is no remap and strobe in both channels has an approximately constant level. The decoder verifies and adjusts the level every 2 seconds, this is done to ensure that the work is kept when there are long intervals between the strobe pulses and this interval is not perceived how the disappearance of the gate signal. I any records not seen flashing with a frequency less than 0.5 Hz, because I did.
in short, convert a mp3 format which is not suitable for the gate tracks will not.

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Alexey Kryachko__
well... kada I will finally start programming, I will exclusively Vav drive...

Roman will have to listen, I don't think it's too affect the results, because the frequency is not changing, only the number of working diodes

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Roman will have to listen, I don't think it's too affect the results, because the frequency is not changing, only the number of working diodes

Roman does not want because of Navigator in all Wav to drive, and innerpulse player mp3 works well. Mp3's for psychotrance has a distinct advantage - there are transmitted only the formants of the sound, and the rest of the brain completes itself, and therefore involved stronger, hence its involvement in the process above, but in the end the efficiency of this process is higher (tested myself, tested on humans ). I also have in the village is very slow Internet and the same sleepy session I have almost every day to upload And if you do a workshop on a disk, now the whole material is placed on a single DVD, and the lossless format you will need 3 to 5 for flac and wav...

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in short, convert a mp3 format which is not suitable for the gate tracks will not.

If it was possible to encode lossless to mp3 strobe recording, they would have already went on the Internet due to their size, and gate disks no longer sold...

http://www.audiostrobe.com/websiteNew/shopMp3/index.php

looks are not your truth, make mp3 with a gate on a commercial basis

I want (we are the users of the Navigator ) so he ate, and MP3 too

a look into the future so to speak

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want (we are the users of the Navigator ) so he ate, and MP3 too

Zazhralis You, my friend))) MP3 device eating. Today I drove different records their (and those that posted and those that themselves or at the individual request did) - with 1.16 Navigator their great plays - 20 times the file changed - no failure, blinking in the normal range.
Generally the firmware is good, I liked it. Won't perepisyvatsya (except that if the new regime will add interesting or many sessions) - the device now works flawlessly - exactly as it should. As for me, lacking only the features of the full discharge of the battery before charging - if you do not use very often, capacity is quickly lost...
Alexey Kryachko__thank you!

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As for me, lacking only the features of the full discharge of the battery before charging - if you do not use very often, capacity is quickly lost...

these kind of accum is not lost

Zazhralis You, my friend)))

MP3 the device eats.

plays fine from wav... to me-that, too, is quite enough of these flashes, but the fact that there is a commercial audiostrobe disks in MP3

I collect all firmwares... so you can roll back...

[Владимир Никонов 2]

Firmware version 1.6

All for flashing a single file:
http://www.mindmachine.ru/download/navi ... amming.zip

Updated user manual to the mind machine — http://www.mindmachine.ru/download/navi ... str1_6.pdf

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on these kind of accum is not lost

Yes brother radish knows them... Chemistry is not my strong point I have the ones in the kit were, six months later, I was blown away - full charge, missed just a couple of times to work, and then not always... Maybe got so I the first thing I do after buying a pulled out a device and ran 4 CAT - full charge the flashlight, full charge - then they are normally worked only around 15-20 cycles (2 orders of magnitude less than the manufacturer's lifetime). Used it quite actively once a day on average... And self-discharge they become furious two weeks sitting on a shelf charged on the balance is almost zero... I once bought a dozen Sanyo 2500 mAh unit did in the 12 volt for the fish finder to the starter kislotnik in a boat to carry - these are also weeks 2-3 do almost zero discharged...

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from the Manual 1.6:

Charged the battery corresponds to the complete filling of the scale. Discharged from the middle and below, or an empty scale. If this value appears, the battery must be recharged. A sign you need to charge the batteries is interrupted and exit the menu during playback sessions, or audio files, and of course the appearance of the inscription "Battery is discharged".

Firmware 1.16, batteries about a month ago once again changed, setting a new GP2700new (guaranteed energy 2500 mAh), in fact there is a deviation from the User - my battery icon has 3 options, 2 of them are static: scale 90% of full (100% charging and after) and devastated (when discharging), and the dynamics of charging, when the charger is connected while the battery is exhausted - shows the filling/hours/percent of normal. I.e. how do I know when it's "from the middle and below on the scale" I don't know. Fully charged batteries (judging by the past 3 cycles of full charge/discharge) is enough for now about 16 hours (which is very happy!) active use of strandskov A. Patrushev and sessions, with battery and 15 hours (relatively, i.e. shortly before the discharge of the batteries) displays the timeline as complete and the battery is low I only get on the "discarding of session", that sometimes it is very frustrating the way the label "Battery is low" not seen, although maybe not paid attention. With electronics I have a relationship in some respects special, and sometimes "chudit not normal", so I want to know is it just me podglyuchivaet?


Sincerely, MAG.no 〠

[Алексей Крячко__]

Firmware 1.16, batteries about a month ago once again changed, setting a new GP2700new (guaranteed energy 2500 mAh), in fact there is a deviation from the User - my battery icon has 3 options, 2 of them are static: scale 90% of full (100% charging and after) and devastated (when discharging), and the dynamics of charging, when the charger is connected while the battery is exhausted - shows the filling/hours/percent of normal. I.e. how do I know when it's "from the middle and below on the scale" I don't know.

well, in General this property of NiMh batteries to keep the voltage level "to the last", and the larger the capacitance, the this property is more pronounced. so we put a battery 2000ma/h, the discharge can somehow track and the scale discharge device is aimed at them.
I think in your case it will be most after using the device at the end of the day just to connect the AC adapter if the battery level is low (and is objectively assessed only when connected to the adapter) then the battery will turn on if everything is in order - will not turn on. Thereby you will avoid any interruption of sessions or audio programs when the batteries are low, but still sufficient voltage level.

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Thank you! Now to do so. But sometimes a new face in (1.16) firmware with such nuances:
-during charging, when working with sessions or strobe disks can be switched off (in the middle of the session) points at all, i.e. the device shows the operation of the decoder is fine, and the glasses don't work at all. their reconnection in the connectors does not solve the problem, restarting sessions leaves everything unchanged, only helps restart the machine and then pause (off state) between the off/on must be at least a small (less than 5 seconds), otherwise it does not help. this can happen as well (probably more correct - more often) if, after recharging, do not power off the device and disconnect (or unplugging) the cord immediately start working with the tracks, not always, but often is not, in principle, special inconveniences does not deliver, if right, it is certainly better to correct.
is included in the network of the machine you receive (on all firmwares) distinct background sound (or maybe it's my hearing as sharp)))))))) in General "tail" can not work at all - if "it's the sizzle" not consciously "move to background" away, then knocks, taking away and after you may receive a "heaviness" in the head (rule of 2 cups and comfortable meditation posture relaxed almost always use) proven repeated experience.
-also experienced (several times) when you enable session or playing a strobe disc from the start very dim (barely) illuminate the diodes, but if you add 1 unit, then the strength of the glow is enhanced by a dozen or two times (becomes normal, perhaps above normal, at least the contrast looks so, so more precisely I can not describe), in this case, if after to return that 1 unity in the settings of the glow back, the glow power is reduced not so much (more staff), and if such a situation should not add it in the process, points can be switched off when the decoder (as 1 example).


Sincerely, MAG.no 〠<

[Алексей Крячко__]

-also experienced (several times) when you enable session or playing a strobe disc from the start very dim (barely) illuminate the diodes, but if you add 1 unit, then the strength of the glow is enhanced by a dozen or two times (becomes normal, perhaps above normal, at least the contrast looks so, so more precisely I can not describe), in this case, if after to return that 1 unity in the settings of the glow back, the glow power is reduced not so much (more staff), and if such a situation should not add it in the process, points can be switched off when the decoder (as 1 example).

in the beginning of the session and at the gate entry points and should gradually gain brightness from zero to full, that which was configured the last time. If the brightness you press the adjustment button, it will immediately become that which was, further pressing of the setting buttons is going to change it otnostelno that was configured. Ie you in this case, everything is functioning normally.
As for the loss of illumination of points on seseh and strobe tracks, I suggest to try with another cable 3.5 mm (can use one for audio).
about the hiss when running from the adapter is not encountered when testing never, checks for existing devices
If the batteries remove the hissing be ?

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if the batteries remove the hiss remains, that's just how much it's objectively loud it's hard to judge with a dynamic focus, concentration and their models, I'm good to catch the attention of roughness (including background) and automatically increase it (or rather its perception, which gives the effect of a subjective amplification of the source), the reverse - translation of the perception of source amplitude in the background is only in case of deliberate action, were allowed to listen to other people, of the dozen only 2 explicitly said this "rustle", and one of them probably took my "tip", but the second sure - "blind" heard repeatedly when the machine is plugged in and when not, so it's not exactly "my samouverennyj illusion," but the real fact simply confirm more sensitive (than average) hearing. tried through the amplifier to the loudspeakers - the "rustle" is well audible.
with another cable "in the disappearances glow" glasses try, the results will report after.
with the "dim light" probably all the same I was not able to correctly describe in the "setting up" the strength of the glow is automatically (software) is not increased, and over time (minutes, sometimes perhaps a dozen) glasses just faded out when the current decoding starsignal, as evidenced by the corresponding pictogram on the monitor, and their work can be restored only by rebooting the machine and be sure - with a pause of a few seconds (tried several times at once, or rather pause a second or two - the function was not restored).


Sincerely, MAG.no 〠

[Алексей Крячко__]

Spread on testing and the public a new program for updating the firmware of the device.
Works under any Windows OS from 2k up to 7s, but so far this is a test version !
If complaints will not, so leave it at that, if there are problems (among solvable), then they recovered.
You can download everything in one file
http://www.mindmachine.ru/download/navi ... mer1_0.zip
What's in this archive :
folder DRV_NAVPROG - here is the. inf file which must be specified in the driver installation process
folder EXE - the actual executable program file for replace (nav_prog10.exe), file f_write.txt containing the name of the recording bin-file, a binary file with the latest firmware (1.16).

instprog.pdf manual driver installation, and programming.

For users of Windows2000 / Windows XP : if you have installed the SAM-PROG, and you use it, then do not need to install ! Because SAM-PROG uses its own driver (atm6124.sys) a more universal app that works with any type of chipset in the USB host.

[Алексей Крячко__]

please write here all problems you work with the program, so the faster we will solve them and help others if they have similar there.

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Alexey Kryachko__

And in the virtual desktop will work? If on the Mac, for example, is Windows emulator?

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Alexey Kryachko__

And in the virtual desktop will work? If on the Mac, for example, is Windows emulator?

here's this sorry I do not know and I myself would be interested. Just the number of possible configurations with emulators and such without that to collect them all and check almost impossible. That's why I started this thread with the fact that this is a test version, which should check the user and the results of this test will decide what to do. Alas, the activity (or rather inactivity), I was a little depressed for more than 10 days only 7 downloads...

We'll be starting these experiments : access to computer (at home, at work, with friends), which can be guaranteed to carry out the programming of the instrument. If your configuration this program does not want to work.

Now for Macs and everything like that не_windows. Until the end of summer I plan to release a new version of firmware, which will upgrade via a microSD card. Ie you connect your device to computer in usb port include, it works like a flash drive, copy in the designated folder of the new firmware, turn off the device, then unplugging it from the USB again and include it reprogrammed with the memory card on the new version. This is the most universal mode of reprogramming and do not care what you use, the main thing that the device USB MSD supported (i.e. usb stick).
One thing : once version, which will probably be reprogrammed so will have to record the old way... ie as is now done through the SAM-PROG or presented in this thread my utility.

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Alexey Kryachko__

The driver that you want to delete " atm..." the system doesn't see. Instead install the driver for the flash drive. I put in an emulator of a 32-bit version of Windows-7 ( Home premium). Can put 64?

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Alexey Kryachko__

The driver that you want to delete " atm..." the system doesn't see. Instead install the driver for the flash drive. I put in an emulator of a 32-bit version of Windows-7 ( Home premium). Can put 64?

right, its not meant to be seen, if you stood in front of this sam-prog. There's also the manual says that it needs only those who had previously installed other programs for flashing. Especially in win7 and they couldn't be. OS version change is not necessary, moreover, still is an emulator.
Immediately use the. inf file, you connect the device (which is translated in programming mode) you request the driver.

[Алексей Крячко__]

installing the driver a flash drive and operation as with flash drive says that it is not translated into the programming mode and in normal mode like a flash drive.
Replacement of software is done via Settings->memory ->replacement program. When you run this item, the memory device is erased (it stops working), it is necessary to switch off (should be a dark screen and led). Follow the programming instructions.