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Everyone is different and it is suitable to each his own... Try it and decide for yourself, and how in that joke when one Georgian to another, I explained about the pineapple: "You tried grenades? Yes. So it's not like"...Атаманов wrote:I think I understand Your reluctance to fully answer here in the forum. you can answer in PM?
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All kind time of day!
I decided to write a mini-report on the passage of a "facilitator", perhaps someone it will help to dispel doubts.
At first I only listened to the alpha session, but curiosity made me restless and I could not stand it for 21 days as recommended and still included "the Explorer" because I have been reading in the abstract, that there may be all sorts of nasty things to get into a head at first, and who have no skeleton in the closet? Wait, when he shows up, not patient enough, but he never showed no fear, bad thoughts and memories never came, which I was very happy, apparently they're in the background were processed.
During the first two auditions, strongly pressed on his chest, even breathing was difficult, but the state was half-sunk. Then ten days I just slept under the "Conductor" (see, affected by the lack of sleep plus long working hours), sometimes even about the purpose you forgot or not had time to put it all ... "Meditation is complete." Bells. Then he turned to Wake up in the middle of the session and hear the lyrics (didn't know what it meant), and so his pieces listened to all in different places about five days and a couple of times even "flew" for a few minutes, but low-low. And the last days was just an audition and for some reason, almost no dives, but without sleep, moreover, began to climb in the head of the "household" of thoughts, which did not exist before.
The physical sensation was different: the first two sessions wildly scratched face, and not only me, but the wife. Then I found that lying on my back I snore terribly, already suffocating. I tried to sit in an office chair, it has a head support and it leans back, and feet can be put on sofa, get something like the modern dental chair. Snoring did not, but his hands fall down and put pressure on the armrests uncomfortable. Eventually returned to the supine position, but with the pillow higher.
On the third or fourth session I wanted to remove the glasses and I was listening to drive without them and decided that I feel so comfortable, even with glasses and efficient and nearly all other sessions are listened to without MM, just player. Apparently, to points still not used to the time since the session a day just didn't have time, and in the evening had yet to find the range in the three hours between the session and the disk that was problematic.
The super sensations were not any, although a very severe internal problems is also not observed, so that drastic changes are ahead, but this drive works, I felt. Became a little calmer, there are fewer pay attention to all the small stuff (or considered nothing more different points that I used to cling to). The wife even said that "Explorer" helps her, she is a person more emotional than I am, and often transit from minor troubles, and so after the course she experienced a very embarrassing moment in the business (this is against the background of the General crisis!), what took me by surprise.
And what is interesting: I start listening to about ten days almost did with MM, disc listening to the player without MM and then turned the session and I started to have images! Although I have a visualization in General was nothing, I threw a few different methods (training, intuition, etc.) and some of it was one of the motives for purchase MM. However, the images were not very long, but at least I see what it is that I have them still appear and have something to strive for.
Following listening to "Explorer" is already in the glasses (and other disks too), so I hope to reach a new level of work with him.<
I decided to write a mini-report on the passage of a "facilitator", perhaps someone it will help to dispel doubts.
At first I only listened to the alpha session, but curiosity made me restless and I could not stand it for 21 days as recommended and still included "the Explorer" because I have been reading in the abstract, that there may be all sorts of nasty things to get into a head at first, and who have no skeleton in the closet? Wait, when he shows up, not patient enough, but he never showed no fear, bad thoughts and memories never came, which I was very happy, apparently they're in the background were processed.
During the first two auditions, strongly pressed on his chest, even breathing was difficult, but the state was half-sunk. Then ten days I just slept under the "Conductor" (see, affected by the lack of sleep plus long working hours), sometimes even about the purpose you forgot or not had time to put it all ... "Meditation is complete." Bells. Then he turned to Wake up in the middle of the session and hear the lyrics (didn't know what it meant), and so his pieces listened to all in different places about five days and a couple of times even "flew" for a few minutes, but low-low. And the last days was just an audition and for some reason, almost no dives, but without sleep, moreover, began to climb in the head of the "household" of thoughts, which did not exist before.
The physical sensation was different: the first two sessions wildly scratched face, and not only me, but the wife. Then I found that lying on my back I snore terribly, already suffocating. I tried to sit in an office chair, it has a head support and it leans back, and feet can be put on sofa, get something like the modern dental chair. Snoring did not, but his hands fall down and put pressure on the armrests uncomfortable. Eventually returned to the supine position, but with the pillow higher.
On the third or fourth session I wanted to remove the glasses and I was listening to drive without them and decided that I feel so comfortable, even with glasses and efficient and nearly all other sessions are listened to without MM, just player. Apparently, to points still not used to the time since the session a day just didn't have time, and in the evening had yet to find the range in the three hours between the session and the disk that was problematic.
The super sensations were not any, although a very severe internal problems is also not observed, so that drastic changes are ahead, but this drive works, I felt. Became a little calmer, there are fewer pay attention to all the small stuff (or considered nothing more different points that I used to cling to). The wife even said that "Explorer" helps her, she is a person more emotional than I am, and often transit from minor troubles, and so after the course she experienced a very embarrassing moment in the business (this is against the background of the General crisis!), what took me by surprise.
And what is interesting: I start listening to about ten days almost did with MM, disc listening to the player without MM and then turned the session and I started to have images! Although I have a visualization in General was nothing, I threw a few different methods (training, intuition, etc.) and some of it was one of the motives for purchase MM. However, the images were not very long, but at least I see what it is that I have them still appear and have something to strive for.
Following listening to "Explorer" is already in the glasses (and other disks too), so I hope to reach a new level of work with him.<
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Hello! Enlighten me please on several issues, if not more difficult.
First still somewhat cautious to do not backfire somehow in the future, the effects on the brain? To listen plan Explorer, without MM.
In the annotations to the disk it is written that the exchange rate is about 20 auditions, just listen to every third day. Total turns 20Х3=60 days. But here on the forum had read that the course should last 21 days. Who is right?
A few years ago, after several years of working in the mode of constant stress, got the neurosis - well, there are panic attacks, anxiety, breathing periodically strays and all related effects
. Sometimes everything is normal, and sometimes storit so though the guard shout, with the work from home entertainment. Here it is a question perhaps directly to the author, is it possible to do in this state, or first you need to completely get rid of neurosis? Or Vice versa, the lesson with the Conductor gives a positive effect in this saline?
I hope not boring
First still somewhat cautious to do not backfire somehow in the future, the effects on the brain? To listen plan Explorer, without MM.
In the annotations to the disk it is written that the exchange rate is about 20 auditions, just listen to every third day. Total turns 20Х3=60 days. But here on the forum had read that the course should last 21 days. Who is right?
A few years ago, after several years of working in the mode of constant stress, got the neurosis - well, there are panic attacks, anxiety, breathing periodically strays and all related effects
I hope not boring
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Zdravstvuy.Гость wrote:Hello! Enlighten me please on several issues, if not more difficult.
First still somewhat cautious to do not backfire somehow in the future, the effects on the brain? To listen plan Explorer, without MM.
In the annotations to the disk it is written that the exchange rate is about 20 auditions, just listen to every third day. Total turns 20Х3=60 days. But here on the forum had read that the course should last 21 days. Who is right?
A few years ago, after several years of working in the mode of constant stress, got the neurosis - well, there are panic attacks, anxiety, breathing periodically strays and all related effects. Sometimes everything is normal, and sometimes storit so though the guard shout, with the work from home entertainment. Here it is a question perhaps directly to the author, is it possible to do in this state, or first you need to completely get rid of neurosis? Or Vice versa, the lesson with the Conductor gives a positive effect in this saline?
I hope not boring
You can certainly do - will help most to improve. Regardless of the mode of auditions, the rate will be 21 times (not a day). The confusion probably comes from the fact that regardless how many times a day did You work with the drive, this day is counted as 1 time.
Please, before you do, carefully read the theme FAQ: http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=2181
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Thank you for your prompt response! Andrew, please tell me how to set a goal to get rid of anxiety and panic disorder? "My nervous system is strong and fully sustainable" - so? And What listening mode do you advise to choose. Once a day or every three days? Alternate with Illenium (which I really have not yet purchased) or just Explorer?
And in General, from the height of his experience, what the best strategy will advise you to finally and irrevocably to soak the neurosis with all accompanying PA? And life is much poison...
And in General, from the height of his experience, what the best strategy will advise you to finally and irrevocably to soak the neurosis with all accompanying PA? And life is much poison...
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Part there is only a corpse...Гость wrote:Thanks for the prompt response! Andrew, please tell me how to set a goal to get rid of anxiety and panic disorder? "My nervous system is strong and fully sustainable" - so? And What listening mode do you advise to choose. Once a day or every three days? Alternate with Illenium (which I really have not yet purchased) or just Explorer?
And in General, from the height of his experience, what the best strategy will advise you to finally and irrevocably to soak the neurosis with all accompanying PA? And life is much poison...
For example: "Interacting with the World, I'm focused, confident, calm."
It would be better to alternate every day with Healing.
Do some exercise in the fresh air, eat healthy food, drink clean water...
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currently working with the following affirmations, maybe they will help YouГость wrote:so finally and irrevocably to soak the neurosis with all accompanying PA? And life is much poison...
1. MY SUBCONSCIOUS IS MY FRIEND AND COUNSELOR
2. I AM OWNER OF MY BODY
3. I AM THE MISTRESS OF YOUR MIND
4. I AM THE MISTRESS OF YOUR THOUGHTS AND EMOTIONS
5. IN ME OPENED AN INEXHAUSTIBLE SOURCE OF HEALTH AND LONGEVITY (SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC)
6. I'M CONFIDENT... ALL GOOD!!!
7. I'm perfectly HEALTHY (A) (I get rid of neurosis forever or I adapt well in society)
so you're saying the subconscious body, the brain team, and he do not care, and he's not listening.... and to hear we must first show WHO is REALLY in charge....home - your essence -soul-spirit AND NOT the EGO....and not the body....
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In your case you said that the EGO is the mistress of your bodyИдущая вперед wrote:currently working with the following affirmations, maybe they will help YouГость wrote:so finally and irrevocably to soak the neurosis with all accompanying PA? And life is much poison...
1. MY SUBCONSCIOUS IS MY FRIEND AND COUNSELOR
2. I AM OWNER OF MY BODY
3. I AM THE MISTRESS OF YOUR MIND
4. I AM THE MISTRESS OF YOUR THOUGHTS AND EMOTIONS
5. IN ME OPENED AN INEXHAUSTIBLE SOURCE OF HEALTH AND LONGEVITY (SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC)
6. I'M CONFIDENT... ALL GOOD!!!
7. I'm perfectly HEALTHY (A) (I get rid of neurosis forever or I adapt well in society)
so you're saying the subconscious body, the brain team, and he do not care, and he's not listening.... and to hear we must first show WHO is REALLY in charge....home - your essence -soul-spirit AND NOT the EGO....and not the body....
For more intelligence - read http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AD%D0%B3%D0%BE
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Eugene Kosh
I am the essence
I-identity (ego) and all the qualities which are peculiar to the personality of selfishness, self-centeredness, etc.
this is a dispute about what is primary, matter or consciousness AND IN the WORLD STILL NOBODY ARGUE ON THIS TOPIC.... and so for centuries, and there are 2 models.....
as Eckhart Tolle defines I as a personality and as the essence (spirit).... who to believe??? because the elderly Freud and Jung lived a long time and our contemporary Tolle - the more I believe him....Евгений Кош wrote:In your case you said that the EGO is the mistress of your body
I am the essence
I-identity (ego) and all the qualities which are peculiar to the personality of selfishness, self-centeredness, etc.
this is a dispute about what is primary, matter or consciousness AND IN the WORLD STILL NOBODY ARGUE ON THIS TOPIC.... and so for centuries, and there are 2 models.....
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So you did not speak as if you yourself are not persuaded to believe and who not believe, at this time wrote here, think and communicate with a person, that is your EgoИдущая вперед wrote:Eugene Koshas Eckhart Tolle defines I as a personality and as the essence (spirit).... who to believe??? because the elderly Freud and Jung lived a long time and our contemporary Tolle - the more I believe him....Евгений Кош wrote:In your case you said that the EGO is the mistress of your body
I am the essence
I-identity (ego) and all the qualities which are peculiar to the personality of selfishness, self-centeredness, etc.
this is a dispute about what is primary, matter or consciousness AND IN the WORLD STILL NOBODY ARGUE ON THIS TOPIC.... and so for centuries, and there are 2 models.....
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Eugene Mow.... here is the proof.... the statements of the spiritual master who is in an available form explained to humanity what I have....
As you get older, you form a mental image of yourself, based on personal and cultural attitudes. We may call this phantom himself — the ego. Ego consists of the activity of the mind and can exist only in continuous thinking.
The term “ego” different people understand in different ways, but in the context in which I use it here, ego means the false “I”, born as a result of unconscious identification with your mind.
I am the Truth. I am the divine presence. I am eternal life. I am in you. I am Here. I am right Now.
The ego is the unobserved mind, managing your life when you are not present as an observer, as indicating consciousness. Your ego sees itself as a separate fragment in a hostile universe that does not have internal connection with any other entity, and under siege from the other ego, which it sees as potential threats or attempts to use them for their own purposes. The basic model of the behavior of the ego was created to deal with their own fear and sense of failure. Such models include resistance, power, greed, desire to control, attack and defend. Some of the strategies of the ego seem to be extremely skillful, but in reality they never solve problems really, simply because the ego itself is the problem.
One of the most powerful spiritual practices is a profound meditation on the mortality of physical forms, including your own. It's called: “Die before death.” Go into it deeply. Your body is dissolved and ceases to exist. Then comes the moment when all the forms created by the mind or thoughts also die. In spite of this you remain here as the Divine presence that I am. Bright, radiant, fully awake. Nothing was real, never died — only death names, bodies, forms and illusions.
http://www.maap.ru/Reading/Hegai_Puteshestvie.htm
and here's a good article about Freud and Jung...
so woooooot YAYAYAYAYAYAYA IS NOT EGO....
AAAAAAAAAAAA IS AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Oh late to the club<
As you get older, you form a mental image of yourself, based on personal and cultural attitudes. We may call this phantom himself — the ego. Ego consists of the activity of the mind and can exist only in continuous thinking.
The term “ego” different people understand in different ways, but in the context in which I use it here, ego means the false “I”, born as a result of unconscious identification with your mind.
I am the Truth. I am the divine presence. I am eternal life. I am in you. I am Here. I am right Now.
The ego is the unobserved mind, managing your life when you are not present as an observer, as indicating consciousness. Your ego sees itself as a separate fragment in a hostile universe that does not have internal connection with any other entity, and under siege from the other ego, which it sees as potential threats or attempts to use them for their own purposes. The basic model of the behavior of the ego was created to deal with their own fear and sense of failure. Such models include resistance, power, greed, desire to control, attack and defend. Some of the strategies of the ego seem to be extremely skillful, but in reality they never solve problems really, simply because the ego itself is the problem.
One of the most powerful spiritual practices is a profound meditation on the mortality of physical forms, including your own. It's called: “Die before death.” Go into it deeply. Your body is dissolved and ceases to exist. Then comes the moment when all the forms created by the mind or thoughts also die. In spite of this you remain here as the Divine presence that I am. Bright, radiant, fully awake. Nothing was real, never died — only death names, bodies, forms and illusions.
http://www.maap.ru/Reading/Hegai_Puteshestvie.htm
and here's a good article about Freud and Jung...
so woooooot YAYAYAYAYAYAYA IS NOT EGO....
AAAAAAAAAAAA IS AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Oh late to the club<
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Clear.
Another man flatters himself that the Ego is something separate, but the Essence of it is also something separate.
The ego is just a development stage entity.
So to SHARE this one piece as you try enough weird. But as they say, I'll ask you what you get. I have two in my head sometimes get
you know how it is then called the doctors .
p.s. In addition. The essence of this is the original Manager of the body ( I would certainly say that the Soul of a Manager, but it is possible to adapt and under your theory). And if you think that YOU are essence. Who you then say, "I am the mistress of her body." Do not understand. To whom is the appeal?
I am not finding fault.
I just want to clarify - who are you trying to tell us that "I am owner of my body" ?
Another man flatters himself that the Ego is something separate, but the Essence of it is also something separate.
The ego is just a development stage entity.
So to SHARE this one piece as you try enough weird. But as they say, I'll ask you what you get. I have two in my head sometimes get
p.s. In addition. The essence of this is the original Manager of the body ( I would certainly say that the Soul of a Manager, but it is possible to adapt and under your theory). And if you think that YOU are essence. Who you then say, "I am the mistress of her body." Do not understand. To whom is the appeal?
I am not finding fault.
I just want to clarify - who are you trying to tell us that "I am owner of my body" ?
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Hello,it's me again:) share impressions after the first listening and the second Conduit wohnoase some sort of cheerfulness and lightness, sometimes even appeasement that has long been forgotten. but after the third listen so zakolbasilo the next day that lights. Panic attack came flooding back, and generally comrade neurosis in full glory showed itself
that's the situation at the moment. If you can, comment on can be a reel? Listen to the guide once a day at night