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Post by Натуся » Mon Jan 19, 2009 22:16

What You really wanted to start exercising with a Guide?
- "Clean up" the unconscious

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Post by Натуся » Mon Jan 19, 2009 22:17

Does this mean that I listen and do not hear?

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 20, 2009 0:48

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Ната13 wrote(a):
Andrey, tell me, how do you know that I am in a trance? Do I need a trance to the Guide "began to act"?

TRANS - the concept is fine... deep Enough to relax. Disk, unfortunately, slightly too long, so maybe affects just tired...
But it is still possible for some signs to understand that I'm TRANS?

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:14

Andrew, need Your help. Already asked this question, but he kudato gone. How the impact of one-time cocaine use, if you now listen to the course Guide. Make it all "achievements" in there? I'm not an addict. Previously had issues with an alcoholic. addiction, has podshivalsya. Sacps already 2 years sober (no podshivnoy). Sometimes relax with the help of weed. Rarely (every 3-4 months). use cocaine, and if there are companies that drink.

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Post by Марина-У » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:47

Andrei Patrushev
put while listening to "Explorer" , I began to breathe . Deep breathing in through the nose and exhaling through the mouth. Then I don't know why I stretched out my hands to the top and feel like me vlivaetsya flow and quite tangible something cool - that was it.? my friend says a thing, what do You think?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Tue Jan 20, 2009 14:27

Марина-У wrote:Andrei Patrushev
put while listening to "Explorer" , I began to breathe . Deep breathing in through the nose and exhaling through the mouth. Then I don't know why I stretched out my hands to the top and feel like me vlivaetsya flow and quite tangible something cool - that was it.? my friend says a thing, what do You think?
In a trance, all sorts of sensations. Their interpretation is a personal matter of who perceives them. :)

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Post by оуаакун » Fri Jan 23, 2009 16:32

That's what I noticed.
If you carefully listen to the Guide and try not to fall asleep, listen to split text after listening a good mood and dobrost, freshness, otdohnuli. :)
If I fall asleep while listening, with twitching of hands, feet, and sometimes I hear breathing and snoring, sometimes even whispering some words immediately after listening to begin sausage, such unsteady gait, sideways logs, depressed, broken state, a runny nose, at night sick with a cold.

The first course I wanted to break and throw the disc. After listening to the feeling that I was dying.

Right now, second year there. Sick again. Nose dripping.
But there was some feeling of satisfaction after a job well done. :)

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Post by марина-у » Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:07

In the middle of listening, you feel irritation. almost anger.force yourself to listen to the end,the result is a headache.Will someone tell why there is such a thing

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Post by Евгений Кош » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:40

марина-у wrote:In the middle of listening, you feel irritation. almost anger.force yourself to listen to the end,the result is a headache.Will someone tell why there is such a thing
my personal opinion
http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php ... start=1407

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Post by АЛЕКСАНДРРРР » Sun Jan 25, 2009 14:54

BUT WITH SOME DISCS IT IS POSSIBLE TO COMBINE AND WHAT NOT???? :)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Jan 25, 2009 19:18

марина-у wrote:In the middle of listening, you feel irritation. almost anger.force yourself to listen to the end,the result is a headache.Will someone tell why there is such a thing
Try to focus on relaxation and not on the text.

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Post by Идущая вперед » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:07

АЛЕКСАНДРРРР wrote:posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:54 pm
BUT WITH SOME DISCS IT IS POSSIBLE TO COMBINE AND WHAT NOT????
when I listened 2 conductor series nadoelo I was listening to it just as well, and experimented (in no case do not advise anyone) then to fucking bad
for example, the session Explorer and the visualization of inner pulse gave me nightmares fatigue in the morning heaviness, etc. with subsequent
----- naeksperementirovavshis relish was not doing this anymore....
if the time has passed 3 HOURS AFTER YOU LISTENED to the EXPLORER, you CAN USE ANY OTHER DISK OR SESSION.... BUT IF YOU PEREDOZIRUET YOUR DAILY DOSE - RELIEVES THE DREAM....
regarding irritation and anger in the middle of THESE NEGATIVE REACTIONS ARE IN the PROCESS of processing... one of you comes out negative blocks are removed the clips and all of black cumin....

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 26, 2009 15:32

Going forward
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Post by Екатерина Е » Mon Jan 26, 2009 19:25

Don't know where to stick their observations. So, I decided here. Because the Explorer is all that Opsa is below, also applies, and how.
A week ago bought Innerpulse. Accidentally in form and natural in fact.
The fact that I have a couple of years looking for one solution to your problem. And that's what has been purchased MM.
The problem is this. I 4 years ago was seriously ill. Cancer. Accordingly, the operation rays-chemistry, all as it should. At the moment, you can skazati, all over, i.e. left of the current regular trips to the cancer center for tests and all. Remission.
But after all this pandemonium, my body began to saucepot part of the energy. It happens this way - you know, that are physically able would have to do something (in shop to go after work, to friends to go home poshurshat) and NGI do not go. Comfortably all. Type tired. But she does understand that if you do get up, you'll do anything and is tired and not die.
Yes, a job I left almost immediately after the end of radiotherapy. Despite my disability issued by the 2nd group (I now it is not confirmed sick, and the disabled I don't feel at all). And after work I used to do a lot of things. And here figushki.
Long I tried to understand what it meant, and made for a conclusion that the body(or subconscious) just pockets of the energy and gives it to me to spend. As mentioned above, I et problem in different ways trying to solve for the second year. No way.
The machine was purchased. However, without much hope of success.
BUT! :) Miracles began after the first evening relaxing sessions. Ceased to want alcohol. Exactly. Previously often in the evening or cognac for the company with her husband having a drink or Vino. Now is not necessary and not desirable.
This is really good. I have a headache. Hereditary. I'm with her already used and agreed to. She got me more than a day don't hurt and I her to the doctors surpluses do not carry and pills are fed to a minimum. After four days after the start of use of the cars loaded I got a migraine attack for three (!!!! :shock: ) of the day. But the impression that I'm doing something harmful, no. The attack went through. However, had to take sick leave.
We continue to do. In the morning (sometimes) refreshing session of Innerpulse, in the evening (regularly) - relaxing. The normal flight.
Decided it was time Conductor. Listened. And realized - THAT's IT! The guide will help me to obtain the necessary energy.
How and why I understood it - not yet able to determine. But we can say that the problem is solved. Just feeling. Because, what, not smart for the disease state, I've managed to do.
Continue to do.

Asking Andrei Patrushev recommendations:
1. What else can you do to reinforce success?
2. Can you think of some combination of sessions and CDs that would help to cope with migraines?
3. And here you go. I need some kind of psychological pump to move the process of weight loss. From hormone therapy I gained around 15 kg and can not return to your old weight. In terms of work (excluding physical education) can be done with the discs and sessions? And how to do it better?
Don't get upset if there have been similar questions (and answers) - I was looking for search, but something did not find anything. If it is bad looking, just poke a nose pliz.<

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 26, 2009 19:34

Catherine E
Thanks for the feedback! :o
1. To Learn The Sedona Method (http://www.koob.ru/dwoskin/sedona_method) and to work on it past life.
2. A Delta session, which is positioned as session for sleep induction (but actually the case is not relevant :)). View articles on this website.
3. Perhaps the Method of Sedna can help with this case...

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Post by Екатерина Е » Mon Jan 26, 2009 20:12

Andrew, I was huge!
And speed separately.
I study the list.
Current here about Wikipedia can be a little more.
I have a lot of read. But perhaps a little haphazard.
Not to say that it was not useful, but a lot of things. And not always by name, you can evaluate the contents.
Poke a nose what to esteem?
On what to pay attention?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 26, 2009 21:52

Екатерина Е wrote:Andrew, I was huge!
And speed separately.
I study the list.
Current here about Wikipedia can be a little more.
I have a lot of read. But perhaps a little haphazard.
Not to say that it was not useful, but a lot of things. And not always by name, you can evaluate the contents.
Poke a nose what to esteem?
On what to pay attention?
Articles in the "Articles" section - it specifically like it was about migraine. :)

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Post by Екатерина Е » Fri Jan 30, 2009 21:18

Hmm....
Shoveled, like, the entire section. Found links to Wikipedia in English about migraine and cars in the article about using mind machines.
Also found this line in the article about altered States that "alpha-theta stimulation (in various combinations) were effective for getting rid of migraine and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)."

And truncated :oops:
You see, I'm looking for a bad or not there. Once again I ask: Andrew, poke nose, pliz :oops:

Now the fact.
Continue to listen to the Conductor before going to sleep. Interesting point - after the beginning of the meditative parts of it start to drift again. disconnect. But before the end about the same time suddenly come to life. Self. \and listen to the final account, in sound mind and memory.
I wonder what it senchilo?

And yet - changed eating habits (or needs?): for some time after illnesses/their treatments somehow switched to eating lots of protein (cheese, poultry, fish, and less meat).
And now just as suddenly returned to greater consumption of vegetables/fruits.

Sedona method while in the learning process.


Andrew, very interesting Your comments.
And even if someone will be able to help with soznaniem what is happening, I would be very grateful.

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Post by Юлия18 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 0:06

dear Andrey Vadimovich,

I listened to the Guide. After this condition disturbing, so not sure I'll listen again. My impressions and feelings that I would like to share:
1) the background, which You call the corresponding Orthodox canons, very anxious, and depressed, so during the whole meditation I had some unconscious fear
2) I agree with the previous post about the voices - all the same, if you decide to sell the product, it would be nice to respect the wishes of those who spend their money on it. I am advocating that everyone should do what he does best, i.e. You can be an outstanding inventor and psychologist, but not necessarily a successful actor/speaker with a pleasant voice. I just listened to similar recordings made abroad - it takes into account everything that the buyer is happy with the end product
3) during and after meditation I feel troubled since I saw symbols of death, and felt the other unpleasant feelings, mostly fears. I'm not a depressive person, and not my thoughts on the subject, but curious why listening gave this result??
I would be grateful for response, thanks in advance

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Post by Евгений Кош » Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:02

Юлия18 :ay

well, except "I am advocating that everyone should do what he does best... "... Here You have not guessed, for when (for example) to Petropavlovsk in Kamchatka, like the voice of Joan Aguzarova, Tyumen heard the voice (for example) Maxim.:)
and who knew Tom - who is engaged "in the business" ? :)
"pleasant" voice has its negative "consequences" for the listening.. this IMHO than the voice of an ordinary man the better.


Andrew, as You noticed :)!

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Feb 01, 2009 13:00

АЛЕКСАНДРРРР wrote:AND WITH SOME DRIVES it is POSSIBLE to COMBINE AND WHAT NOT???? :)
FAQ http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=2181

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Feb 01, 2009 13:02

Юлия18 wrote:dear Andrey Vadimovich,

I listened to the Guide. After this condition disturbing, so not sure I'll listen again. My impressions and feelings that I would like to share:
1) the background, which You call the corresponding Orthodox canons, very anxious, and depressed, so during the whole meditation I had some unconscious fear
2) I agree with the previous post about the voices - all the same, if you decide to sell the product, it would be nice to respect the wishes of those who spend their money on it. I am advocating that everyone should do what he does best, i.e. You can be an outstanding inventor and psychologist, but not necessarily a successful actor/speaker with a pleasant voice. I just listened to similar recordings made abroad - it takes into account everything that the buyer is happy with the end product
3) during and after meditation I feel troubled since I saw symbols of death, and felt the other unpleasant feelings, mostly fears. I'm not a depressive person, and not my thoughts on the subject, but curious why listening gave this result??
I would be grateful for response, thanks in advance
FAQ http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=2181

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Feb 01, 2009 13:26

Екатерина Е wrote:Hmm....
Shoveled, like, the entire section. Found links to Wikipedia in English about migraine and cars in the article about using mind machines.
Also found this line in the article about altered States that "alpha-theta stimulation (in various combinations) were effective for getting rid of migraine and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)."

And truncated :oops:
You see, I'm looking for a bad or not there. Once again I ask: Andrew, poke nose, pliz :oops:

Now the fact.
Continue to listen to the Conductor before going to sleep. Interesting point - after the beginning of the meditative parts of it start to drift again. disconnect. But before the end about the same time suddenly come to life. Self. \and listen to the final account, in sound mind and memory.
I wonder what it senchilo?

And yet - changed eating habits (or needs?): for some time after illnesses/their treatments somehow switched to eating lots of protein (cheese, poultry, fish, and less meat).
And now just as suddenly returned to greater consumption of vegetables/fruits.

Sedona method while in the learning process.


Andrew, very interesting Your comments.
And even if someone will be able to help with soznaniem what is happening, I would be very grateful.
Yes, indeed, it is in English I've read. :oops: Well, I sent these articles to the translation, I hope soon will appear.
As for the food - listen to the inner Conductor.
You Wake up at the end of the program at my request... :)

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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 02, 2009 15:36

With English of problems is not present. But I search not found. The only - I'm afraid that the article will be a lot of professional a bit, and then I can't translate normally. If there is a language of ordinary, You poprosit me a reference to give them? Or mail to throw?
As for the food, I realized.
But as for waking up - it is happening much earlier than the meditation ends. Somewhere at the end of the part where in different ears different text goes. It's still on request?
Or is it some kind of subconscious reaction to the words?
By the way, for me and the background, and the voice - absolutely comfortable. And from what I was able to learn about NLP, I realized that on the disc a LOT of attention given to the security of the hearer.
Yes, Andrew, I for some reason, this CD reminds of the story of Erickson, in which he mentioned suffering from cancer pain to a man about how to grow tomatoes. I really like this story.

And yet - IMHO: there is nothing in the mind, what would a healthy chelovek couldn't handle himself. Provided that he takes responsibility for his actions.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Feb 02, 2009 16:38

Anonymous wrote:English is no problem. But I search not found. The only - I'm afraid that the article will be a lot of professional a bit, and then I can't translate normally. If there is a language of ordinary, You poprosit me a reference to give them? Or mail to throw?
As for the food, I realized.
But as for waking up - it is happening much earlier than the meditation ends. Somewhere at the end of the part where in different ears different text goes. It's still on request?
Or is it some kind of subconscious reaction to the words?
By the way, for me and the background, and the voice - absolutely comfortable. And from what I was able to learn about NLP, I realized that on the disc a LOT of attention given to the security of the hearer.
Yes, Andrew, I for some reason, this CD reminds of the story of Erickson, in which he mentioned suffering from cancer pain to a man about how to grow tomatoes. I really like this story.

And yet - IMHO: there is nothing in the mind, what would a healthy chelovek couldn't handle himself. Provided that he takes responsibility for his actions.
Articles will soon appear on the site (all the links are in my work).
About waking up You first wrote that you Wake up quite late, (there really asking) and where You are now described, there is a phrase: "meditation end", and in the beginning there is a phrase: "you Wake up when the meditation has finished"... Maybe You are too impatient.:)
It was more about the safety disc after listening to it when I'm not there (in which case I can't help), but a few people said to me, "You talk so much about safety that begins to creep into the suspicion"...:)
About healthy mind and responsibility I fully agree with You, but the disc now I listen to very different people. Some people really need that kind of help, but the approach requires special....

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