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Re: Magic Attention

Post by нева » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:45

мимоходом wrote:Well, you see at the top of the star, and below the burning sun... And what do I do ))) to Deny my own perception?

To deny the description.)) Who said that it is the stars? Mother in early childhood, pointing the finger? ..And who said that..this is something..perceived is called the Sun. Someone said, in fact, and now we know..) Have what some Papuans stars..but pronounced differently, not Russian. and quite difficult to know that the Papuans are investing in understanding what we call the sun.
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Re: Magic Attention

Post by мимоходом » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:55

There is quite a simple explanation that includes all the descriptions... the Unconscious of each person is unique because from birth everyone is into it put a unique set of visible images of the world, because everyone has seen and been impressed different. From this one sees that it, according to your interpretation... If the Indians said at the top of the eagle, and man will see the eagle. If not, I'll see a fog or a star, or any other private glitch...

Everything is reduced to sameness of bugs in different people, in what can only poll statistics. And that's what this amazing personal statistics... shows That different people "see" different, but United in certain groups. One group sees the eagle, the other stars, dead the third, fourth geometry, the fifth fall classic Paradise in visions and so forth... it Turns out one size fits all way... And you have to pay attention solely on himself. And in order to do it - yourself lose, otherwise, start not from what...

In addition, the speculative, the rejection of the inner world (the dialogue part) - is not dissolved into the jelly? It would seem on the contrary, it needs to form that jelly does not dissolve... there are philosophical questions to the Soldiers...
Who said that it is the stars? And who said that..this is something..perceived is called the Sun.
it's not about words, but about the picture as the time of visual thinking

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by нева » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:00

мимоходом wrote: a rejection of the inner world - is not dissolved into the jelly? It would seem on the contrary, it needs to form that jelly does not dissolve
..)) A warrior can and form and to withdraw and form a new one and again give up..and neoin..can't not give up on anything..and therefore can't create anything new..))

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by нева » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:09

мимоходом wrote: itself can not lose, otherwise, start not from what...
in order to lose, you must first find Yourself, and then it will be possible..to lose to find to lose to find.. not to lose and nenajdete..and just be..) not Necessarily to attract or repel.

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by нева » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:34

нева wrote:in addition, the speculative, the rejection of the inner world (the dialogue part) - is not dissolved into the jelly? It would seem on the contrary, it needs to form that jelly does not dissolve... there are philosophical questions to the Soldiers..
. You can try to dissolve the beautiful eyes , not necessarily in the abstract kissel(kissel abstract). Nobody forbids Soldiers to razvaryatsya in anything, even in the fog. But you will need to disable VD..) let's say some sort of Warrior(knight).. chose.. the lady..and instead to dissolve..in her eyes..turning off VD begins to analyze something..it's not something..it's not...well, what is it? ))) No lady is not like that..this is speculation..) I Mean there is a time to cast away stones. and a time to gather stones..that's the whole philosophy of the Warriors..)) Zen Buddhism..also built.. on a trip VD. And different gymnastics..including yoga. A philosophy..it is the opposite practice..namely the stress of Mind..and of course one complements the other...that is why every good warrior..just have to study and practice of philosophy as he practiced in the off VD..) ))

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by нева » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:18

passing By the way there are other ways of dissolving in the eyes...and there are fans.. here's an example Dobrynin intuitively understood, and even wrote a song..) to Dissolve the Beautiful eyes..this movement of the Assemblage Point. It is not necessary to hold the vehicle still protected..and then the eye will be normal and not Beautiful..)


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In General, VD holds the vehicle stationary and then disappear..magic..)

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by нева » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:36

мимоходом wrote:everything is reduced to sameness of bugs in different people,

Glitches scientists.. not disproved not proved.. that Magic is a game or not a game perception..Only Warriors learn to manipulate their perceptions regardless of the evidence..) Soldiers Know what evidence will limit the mobility of their assemblage points..and so they.. they and unnecessary) Guilt can Trust..and this is a lot nowadays..))

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by Слайдер » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:53

Some videos about the relationship of stopping the internal dialogue and the magic of attention:
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An interesting idea was expressed by the lecturer - is that people don't usually meet, and face their mental demons. And learn how to meet guys. Once learned - consider the mind and cleansed.
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Re: Magic Attention

Post by Иван Славов » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:13

Рита С wrote:For those interested I recommend the book by Alexei Ksendzuk. a competent partner.

http://www.koob.ru/ksendzuk_aleksej/ksendzuk_all
Thanks, I read it. Not very impressed.
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And if you are really "on topic" - I wonder Castaneda, in theory, should be a good MAG /in your direction/. So he died some time ago. Maybe someone of the experts here have met him in my dreams? Or in other spaces? Embodied already there, or what?
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Re: Magic Attention

Post by Рита С » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:19

Not impressed that the opening theme or the theme itself?
The theme of the books revealed from beginning to end.

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by Иван Славов » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:20

For yourself not learned anything practical from reading the book by this author /and believe me, I tried, as it is also recommended that/.
p.s. here Andrei Patrushev once recommended author Vladislav Radov /although another topic/. Some of the stories in the book Radova me greatly impressed /even comparing with their own experience and knowledge, and not at all with the paper-interactive "yellow press"/.

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by кросби » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:19

looked through the topic and after the "spaceships" I want to provide some clarity,although after passing maybe it's too much.
1.This is a forum of practitioners,where manufacturers support and promote their products.
2.Aura(whose authority is indisputable,after using its products)is recommended to meet with people from the Magic Worlds,as it "directly on the products."
3.I recorded.
4.Suddenly opens a new branch,where a person quotes from Castaneda's 20-year-old explains the paradigm of his community.
5.And then the circus begins,simple questions of practitioners(long before the appointment you need to pass),the author in plain text offers to raise the butt off the couch and sign up for a consultation.
I from Rostov-on-don to fly,aptly Keenan"poneleit" for Castaneda?So here, these castanedas enough.
PS sorry if harsh,but Casually,very delicately already asked:what do you sell?

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by КИН » Sun Nov 06, 2016 13:16

Рита С wrote:Aura, customize the following Gurus, this is no 8)
Yet none has stood the test of forum, all scattered like cockroaches :)
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Re: Magic Attention

Post by мимоходом » Sun Nov 06, 2016 13:39

Only Warriors learn to manipulate their perceptions regardless of the evidence..) Soldiers Know what evidence will limit the mobility of their assemblage points..and so they.. they and unnecessary) Guilt can Trust..and this is a lot nowadays..))
What you write - know it. That the essence of the development of the second pole, the unconscious is the antithesis of conscious thought... But stopping criteria of VD... yet obscure... let's Say the others can't from the words to understand VD is stopped or not, but how to understand if he stopped. Stop VD - the second attention, as I understand it. What if I have it stopped and at the same time (the third attention), which allows me to philosophize and to directly perceive for themselves... to understand... the Criterion - inclusion vision? But in addition to vision (eyesight) there are other variants of connection of the unconscious to consciousness, and physiologically - through touch, through hearing (voice or music of the spheres), and even some people with unusual synesthesia - using smell and taste... Or just through intuition (Snezana or in terms of Castaneda - silent knowledge)... Sixth sense - it's a different manifestation of matter. Vision it is not the only criterion? Why is the nagual so forcibly limited? May be the criteria of the second and third attention is the ability to think abstractly and to move freely between abstractions (turnover)? The idea is have freedom of thinking and rebuilding the world for any abstraction...
a philosophy..it is the opposite practice..namely the stress of Mind..and of course one complements the other...
Then the Warrior simply must pass the test of philosophy and withstand philosophical debate is Castaneda called the correct tonal and included in his teachings.
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Re: Magic Attention

Post by мимоходом » Sun Nov 06, 2016 13:58

Well, once again I quote my favorite article from the site. About the warrior, faith, etc. - are quite clear criteria...

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4. A warrior acts as if nothing ever happened, because he believes in nothing. And yet he accepts everything at face value. It takes without taking. And swings, not swinging. He never feels knowledgeable, and at the same time never feels as if nothing has happened.
This is the way of the Warrior.
A warrior is a person that combines seemingly incompatible qualities: common sense and openness to any kinds of mystical, irrational, inexplicable. His intelligence, moderate skepticism – do not turn in the perversity and blindness of rationalist, because they have a different psychological nature. Warrior nothing absolyutiziruyut, he is impartial and able to take a sober look at how reckless the rapture of the mystic, and the tight limitations of rationality. He believes in what he's doing, but is a special faith that has nothing to do with dogmatism and religiosity, for in his faith there is no fear, no ambition, no desire to find refuge.
Remember! A warrior must be fluid and subject to change in harmony with the surrounding world, be it peace of mind or the world of will (i.e. the world of the tonal or the nagual).
The real danger for the warrior arises when it turns out that the world is neither one nor the other. The only way out of this critical situation is to continue to act as if you believed. In other words, the secret of a warrior is that he believes without believing. Of course, that a warrior cannot just say he believes and leave it at that. It would be too easy. Simple faith would have eliminated him from understanding the situation. In all cases, when a soldier needs to associate himself with faith, he does so by choice.
In its most radical form, the principle of "warrior believes without believing" consists of the following provisions:
1. Putting any perceived fact the result of hallucinatory;
2. At the same time put it a manifestation of the external energy forms and processes;
3. No the test result of this perceived fact can not be considered final.
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in this regard, the vision of luminous filaments, eagle and others - this Warrior must be perceived as halluciniogenic too... But let's say the Warrior has grown to man's Knowledge (terminology of Carlos Castaneda). What is the criteria of Knowledge? As you can see, recognize? He gets silent knowledge? But this is for a number of people natural state... the Voice of intuition that in some way says or... How to understand whether a person is a man of Knowledge or not... He is silent? Says? Does? Does not? He lives alone in the mountains, waiting for Carlos? What he does, his interest in what Castaneda...

In my opinion these questions does not answer... Any man can be a warrior and a man of Knowledge and in advance we do not know... And therefore probably reasonable to each a priori to be so until he proves otherwise his thoughts or actions. Sound reasonable?<
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Re: Magic Attention

Post by мимоходом » Sun Nov 06, 2016 14:27

He speaks figuratively (from the third point by castenada), and in principle it is clear what I wanted to say a particular movie... only to his own proper tonal (structure assembled of the world) it does not add anything...

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by КИН » Sun Nov 06, 2016 14:57

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мимоходом wrote:Then Warrior simply must pass the test of philosophy
The person is afraid for his authority, he is now being fed us rollers with the pipe, the type we should look for meaning in them, pondering what he meant.
A simple verbal dialogue, he will float, so be it.

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Re: Magic Attention

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by мимоходом » Sun Nov 06, 2016 16:16

God or the eagle... the only Difference in the title?

Some think he's at the top (for example, as the light of the information), others think that the bottom (such as light energy, Power). And maybe here and there, as one the vertical axis, which is planted all? And besides-axis because the sphere is, and the point (Assembly)... And something about the point of writing, but about the rest not - is there a substitution... I'd have focused on the explanation in the context of the sealing of the electromagnetic field...

And another - from the world no one has yet returned. No mages with the second and third attention, or other believers. Look how Neva wrote - it's just a matter of Faith in something or other... Though Castaneda, at least from anyone... But no one had returned. Or Vice versa all (if you count just glitches of past lives in a deep dive and not seen as a compilation of films, so unconscious of witnesses).

And how about stalking fear, if fear is instilled - like, sleep well and be done with it... Reverse vector...

And Vysotsky is good, Yes.

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by кросби » Sun Nov 06, 2016 16:31

passing
And here is the national,Russian(in my opinion)experience of God as the Creator and feel a part of it,not just unity,but unity as a mind(in Russian God is personal).And in Castaneda there is no God,he's a loner,he burns all the warm,to survive in those worlds about which he writes.I think so,Castaneda turning the heads of many seekers(madhouse filled with warriors of the spirit) is still not widespread in our country.

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by КИН » Sun Nov 06, 2016 16:32

кросби wrote:unresponsive or do not care at all,even on the play, I will not push,we must learn to speak the language of the country you came from...
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Re: Magic Attention

Post by КИН » Sun Nov 06, 2016 16:38

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by мимоходом » Sun Nov 06, 2016 16:44

well... why so... is a good man, and techniques are probably good - I wonder the same dreams to manage being in the mind... There's a category of people who are attracted by the curiosity - why not... well, a little about the analysis and the audience's perception of missed or tipped... Really upload videos especially creative exhaust no... But maybe a week or another will pass, everything will calm down and the supply of material will continue... This is also a call to Power - to tell the philosopher about the position of the Warrior...

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Re: Magic Attention

Post by мимоходом » Sun Nov 06, 2016 16:48

under the Professor he was referring to me (brain in General) ))) Type man top rocked, but the lower classes do not like... it May be so, but the position of the bottom (of the unconscious) must be able to convey to the top was clear... And that the top, for which there is no authority in whom to hypnotize/manipulate so difficult... a Challenge )))

Well, if the Professor was referring to himself - and communicates with us from a point in the head, from rational (instead of the third point Castaneda) ))) this way And that not very well... about CDA... It is all there is, therefore, easily noticeable Keenan including...
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Re: Magic Attention

Post by мимоходом » Sun Nov 06, 2016 16:58

well, it's a club of self-development... Wanted to bring a slice of truth... to me Personally this model is interesting, I met her a number of things I liked, some rethinking has produced. And I honestly didn't think this subject will go into such a jungle - it was never the intention... But keeping the theme depends on the host. Regarding the Kina confused just now about hell, brains and stuff... I had it never occurred ))) Personal fears? Personal unexamined unconscious? The desire to motivate "on the contrary"?
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