Egregors

[Ольга Лагуза]

About how, apparently I'm a big shot... since "new member" specifically signed up for that would come to my topic! And only checked in and immediately ran here, pictures to glue. Ear ha ha!

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How can you not notice...

for Example: Abesalom Underwater, there is a great work...

[Ольга Лагуза]

Everything is clear with You, yeah...but, like this forum(((

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Yeah... This forum was unprepared for the great Truth of Blavatsky, Andreev and Underwater... whether the people are near, or long it's all been eaten and digested ))

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Everything is clear with You, yeah...but, like this forum(((

What happens is what should happen

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In General, the forum aimed to give advice on the products. And self-development that's just for attracting customers

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Felt easy mostrenowned

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Somehow, this thread reminded my classes of philosophy. I wrote once, how it seemed to me then awesome the treatise of his thoughts on the theme of human self-development and ways of achieving, and I got ... because I formed a tunnel from the arguments, although they were all 5+, as I wrote in the review my teacher. that way I developed my thoughts, and in the secondary (as I thought they were), did not pay attention. I serve as a lesson.

About the relativity in good and bad, I realized. but did not understand how it is tied to egregors.
Olga, maybe not so much then my attention was the congestion, and the fact that not one of those books I have in the authoritative and I do not understand your logic was in the reasoning.

[Ольга Лагуза]

Olga, maybe not so much then my attention was the congestion, and the fact that not one of those books I have in the authoritative

Apparently books about which You say does not answer Your questions, I told about the books on the subject.

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About the relativity in good and bad, I realized. but did not understand how it is tied to egregors.

Well, here You are ..what agregory find a light..?)

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Sterifilt I only here a few hours ago they defined the concepts of "egregore", good-bad and light-dark.
And you tell me these concepts in a single, I thought the collapse happened ))

If you take your example

agreed here young and want to live together..

I so argue. maybe primitive, but I so far clear. Two families have created 3 community right and good, based on their pictures of the world. There are 2 kinds of perception. as my observer, and subjective. My family m and family W each other Mosk endure, then it is clearly "not good". The love between m and m - good. If all tied to the Church, it is the concept of good and bad gain values of light and dark. Then I have a lapse in thought. On egregores can not tie. I can't say that they have dark egregors arose, everyone probably has their own truth, simply not reasonable to convey their grievances and spoil this very young family. Thus probably empty love "egregore" of a young family. it turns out that it empties it's dark "egregor"? Then the young family have created a bright egregor, and families with their dark sides?
But if a little to make adjustments to the data these families. maybe the daughter is rude and really she can't cook and they eat constantly in-law and brother-in-law does not want to work and the father-in-law asks for money constantly vdolg while they are still children and want a family of course will buzz, kids-the immature family life, relatives and think what you are doing as best they light intentions, but the young family love does not Mature until the sex instincts and show-off to children are not brought, then likely the family will disintegrate. And where some egregore how to disassemble.

And if so do not go into the meaning of the whole scribbling my top and just to answer your question, what is light eligor: pure, sincere love, friendship, loyalty, children, while parents are not spoiled, well, in General all, I wanted to write, that produces the hormone of joy, but again, all too subjectively, someone happy someone not..

And here is the question. Take for example a hospital. For example trauma, where .. let's say after the accident, with multiple fractures, put them, say 3 three people in the house, the energy they have on fifty fifty, and someone even less.. And if formed the egregore-a mosquito to blood flying in such wards, and hospitals the mortality was used, scary to imagine. this is my opinion. Yes, relatives, care, proper treatment and the adequacy of doctors, a Church on the site to help add to the energy Bank, but that it pulled out it is hard for me to imagine her in there so if all of your patients to share not a lot of something.<

[Ольга Лагуза]

for example to the flock of monkeys..nailed the monkey the individual..and the bananas don't want to be friends is not able, flea beetles don't pop out, borders are not guarded, teeny-weeny little monkey does not(cubs not fosters) and it wants to show that you're the smartest. That under such circumstances, egregore is not only deprived of energy (iscosa collectively)..but I'll run nafih(they exclude free-riders..which does not contribute to the collective survival)..)

Let's pack is not so friendly, and the individual (already good) monkey, not necessarily nailed, she also lives in this forest, what the tree wants by jumping, and it is also part of the egregor, just not necessarily the same, maybe she's a different breed, such as high mountain "Golden snub". And so, like some monkey with this pack, she doesn't know how to be friends, she has other views on the matter. The rest turned out well, the fight for survival...but that's it fleas, which she began to choose, and angered the most flea-bitten bohatikov.

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for example the Alpine - "Golden snub"

Yes, Yes, this monkey is unique,bright, clean, well-developed and accurate knowledge of everything. Material and primitive primates did not understand her, the vibrations do not match ))

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, vibrations do not match

Say.. the Sky is not fused..)

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let's Say a pack of not so friendly

This is Estestvennoi....that is to say - the main ingredient..) If a flock is ..friendly..this is suspicious. As an example of the "Jehovah's Witnesses"..everyone there is so friendly that you can come.. somewhere and to live in a public apartment..dividing a small room with three sisters..from different cities..who would like to go to live to you..in two weeks..after that your apartment becomes public..) That allows you to better understand each other.. So in the right egregore..everything should be natural..think I had someone..for example, a pair of female male not divided..or Vice versa..)) So..when.. bicker.of course..it is unnatural..this is all ..when you love and understand... it's nice.. but not natural..and suspicious..)

[Ольга Лагуза]

Yeah... This forum was unprepared for the great Truth of Blavatsky, Andreev and Underwater... whether the people are near, or long it's all been eaten and digested ))

And what You so much for all the answer? About the fact that digested, whatever it is, You personally, are not sure, otherwise I would not say that consciousness depends on the brain.

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From what it depends? Remove the brain from a lot of consciousness left? It would seem that in your version, in this case, the person must remain reasonable, I believe it will be after removal?

[Ольга Лагуза]

How do You quickly/good for me to react, thank you.

Remove the brain from a lot of consciousness left?

I can ask another question: remove consciousness, and what is the use of the brain?

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I can ask another question: remove consciousness, and what is the use of the brain?

How this can be done, I do not understand, tell us.

When a newborn is born - he has the mentality of zero. The child a little more. A teenager a little more. In an adult a little more. The more complex the brain, the more connections formed, the more awareness. Do you have an example of the opposite, when a newborn baby is conscious?

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Here you are now writing with a brain that your brain throughout life remembered and somehow processed to form stable relations of opinions. The fact that there is a consciousness separate from the brain - that you read, isn't it? Now copy-paste issue, a compilation of paraphrased quotes. If I'm wrong - tell us how you learned that there is consciousness outside of the brain, forgetting everything you ever read somewhere. You can?

And if you can't - what will remain of you, if you remove all alien, all the compilation of "authoritative" authors... Where your own creativity as creating something? Just to repeat other people's thoughts is not enough - the development of the brain and consciousness takes place

[Ольга Лагуза]

Remove the brain from a lot of consciousness left?

I can ask another question: remove consciousness, and what is the use of the brain?

How it can be done, I do not understand, tell us.

This is certainly not the right question to ask, not in Your not in my case.

When born baby - he has the mentality of zero. The child a little more. A teenager a little more.

No, it is not so.

Besides, You don't even talk about the Mind and the brain (matter).

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What is consciousness then don't. What do you mean? Like every person understand that the child is irresponsible and he needs help, and the adult conscious and render this assistance to the child. Therefore the difference in the development of the brain.

And if the consciousness from the brain would be - then all neonates were conscious, they would themselves fed, clothed, diapers changed

Moreover, if the newborn brain does not develop, you get Mowgli - a man-beast with almost no consciousness. So where is it?

besides, You don't even talk about the Mind and the brain (matter).

And you, you personally, were out of matter? Tell, interesting.
If not - this is again copy-paste and compile, other infoverse, faith and fanaticism. Where is your own thinking, that is, consciousness at the same time? Photocopying other people's programs - not to be conscious ))

[Ольга Лагуза]

And you, you personally, were out of matter? Tell, interesting.
If not - this is again copy-paste and compile, other infoverse, faith and fanaticism. Where is your own thinking, that is, consciousness at the same time? Photocopying other people's programs - not to be conscious ))

This is not a conversation at all. You may think You've been everywhere what reasoning, for example in myths, religions, Narona and in everything else that you say. Or are You talking exclusively own discoveries, coupled with their titles? I suggest not to put the issues squarely and to seek answers to them, which of course exist in the environment.

[Ольга Лагуза]

What is consciousness then don't. What do you mean?

What do You mean by the meaning of the word CONSCIOUSNESS, WHICH DEPEND on the BRAIN?

Kind of each person it is clear that the child is irresponsible and he needs help

The child hears the mother while still in the womb, and always will recognize it after birth. Besides, he is born with a mass of information about yourself. And the fact that he needed help so a disabled person for example is also in need of help, but it does not characterize it as not conscious.

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This is not a conversation at all.

Why is this not a conversation. If you have no experience stay out of the matter - why did you decide that your consciousness is not the brain

the Baby hears the mother while still in the womb, and always will recognize it after birth.

Well, of course, the brain is to develop in the womb still starts, sounds trained. So you want to say that the newborn child is a conscious being? And if it does not develop, then the resulting Mowgli (the jungle in the forest) or the cattle in the jungle of the city - it is also a conscious being? Really think so?

What do You mean by the meaning of the word CONSCIOUSNESS, WHICH DEPEND on the BRAIN?

I asked you to explain your point of view, and you give me my asking the question. I already answered it in three comments. And you answered?