Small offtopic.

[ФилиНН]

Can I take Chinese balloon and write on it the pan-matrix. Already get a good device for Insua.
They can warm themselves (e.g. hands - there is a lot of reflex points, it is useful to 15 quite).
Pan matrix can reprogram it as you want. It really is the cheapest micro-pseudo-lachowski.

Do not miss an option to make fun of themselves
Michael, when heating is necessary to touch the ball? Currents clearly increase in touch points. Not only pillows, but also periungual points where the Voll measure.
The legs also can work, there are areas-points in bulk? To ride on the ears, there are points hundred pieces with the projection on the whole body.
Only in addition to famous sights like lajo radiation there's high voltage Converter operates in the area 35кгц(in my passport). Interference of this frequency can not be avoided as from a trance, and from the ball. And it's close to universal antiparasitic frequency H. Clark. Surely the chinks have read?
And that the program should samantaliht in the matrix for this application?

[Михаил_]

1. and they are tricky, these chinks
2. although generally neon and other gas discharge balls appeared much earlier their gift boom, there are in different museums and Amateurs, there is just a HUGE unfortunately, they require the professional manufacturer (and material strength of the glass, not pulled). Seen in the photo is 80cm in diameter - this THING!
3. the oscillator frequency of the ball can not hurt. It would increase it would be, but the core of the step-up TRANS will not pull.
4. the program - say, write pan-matrix and consciousness give the command "copy revitalizing program for plasma ball made by Michael".

[ФилиНН]

Oh! Grand merci for the gift! Vytsyganili. In store has been...
What about the increase in the frequency and in the light of the previously given advice not to throw the ball-losharik, if cleverly-cheap Chinese electronics will die...
It is not from electronics Chizhevsky ionizer to power? For some reason I believed that there is a diode-capacitor, not trance-inducing voltage multipliers. (Not yet dismantled over 15 years, "the Soviet-so reliable" I have not yet died.)
And what about the ball touch all the same... It's overkill?
And doses of application. This is 15 min on all 3 areas of concentration points?

[Михаил_]

up to 45 minutes in General, it is possible not to touch, and hold close, if you touch, it dose feel. I warmed his fingertips until there was a bunch of other things.

about the source - the luster is weak and there is need for a more artful design.

[ФилиНН]

Question, that these components will fit:
http://www.parkflyer.ru/product/103230/
http://www.parkflyer.ru/product/2168/
? What to look for when choosing components?

Voffka You have used these blocks?
Recommendations some controversy.
On the one hand requires "regular"(in the Fene model airplanes ) for a current not less than 20A, otherwise it will not spin.
On the other hand in respect of some regulatory warns that the winding is hard-the engine for large currents are calculated.
At the same time, you know, in the comp it spins from low power 12V. Estimate, if all 20A from the 12V in the engine goes, it needs 240W, and the PSU of the computer, where the most powerful 5V, not 12V, so many have. And more powerful, adjustable and cost much more.

[Михаил_]

You all beguiled nafig I was taught physics at school (or really already forgotten)
1.
driver three-phase motors for models that are completely different from the driver for the hard disk. Momentum there may be small, but we need a large. Many of these drivers are brake off.
2. Rinat, before recommending specific components - tried.
3. Coil motor of hard drive have such a wonderful setting as the thickness of the wire that determines this secondary and permanently fixed parameter as the resistance of the winding. Current depends on voltage and resistance (I hope I remember how )
4. Current drivers listed on the engines is a limit, after which they BURN (the drivers themselves, i.e. their keys and not the motors, these should burn harder....
5. Engines from hard drives can be operated under much more stress than that at which they are working in your PC. For example at 24 volts. Not critical voltage, and maximum rpm above which can occur are VERY DANGEROUS!!! the destruction of the physical plane of the disk. About Rinat way wrote at the beginning of his vertoletniy epic. He also pointed out the limit speed above which floats duralumin, which is made of a plane (although they are slightly different diameter and slightly different thicknesses, and therefore different strength).
6. the resistance and the number of magnetic poles of all the engines hard disks are a little different.

[Михаил_]

7. accordingly, the AVERAGE current through the motor is determined and a long pulse through each coil, the resistance of the engine and SCSI drives - very small, ten times less than the resistance of the windings from simple IDE-shnyh screws.
8. application slaboroslyh drivers will not allow you to spin the engine, because they are not designed for high speed, as it is cheap. Inside them is too stupid electronics.

[ФилиНН]

All I just figured. And not for Runetovskih Skazi - disks and adjustable power sources, and for their conditions: БП12В(as in computers, and maybe from his mother from an old computer) and a unique screw right on to 500MB emerging from a boom of prosperity their buddies lying in an oil paper. Most likely 5tysch revs. And much more yet it did not expect to.
But if this screw spins no nagsagawa native company BP no 20A, which is the only reason I can give, and regul on this current quite will unleash and will not burn. All.
Features inside Regula don't know, ask before buying ready(rassypuha the parts you do not want to solder), who already applied successfully to any conditions.
Actually, I'm a regulator R/a 6P. in the Institute have worked for a long time. When the faulty circuits in non-standard equipment had to personally find, and not to the level of fees for Raziel emission.But with logic, not power, true. Power - except that samorazdrazheniya Oselki Chi-Phi, when our industry was not made.
PySy Measured the resistance of the winding engine on the tenure - 5.5 ohms. At 12 volts a little more than 2A will flow at the start.

[ФилиНН]

Michael, question. Here the case is like this...
Decided in the morning without getting up a ball to get warm(Japanasean, Your program has not yet mentaly, may not datareaders), put on a sheet by the ball on its side to make it easier(hands not raised). Forgot there under the sheet card P-say lies, legs night treats. Akkurat her a couple of minutes and fried bits.
Implications for themselves of the labels in the laminate or its programs? Without a card discharge in foam sofa somehow weaker went...

[Михаил_]

1.the map don't care
2.figured (by engine) all wrong. All controllers, even not implemented on microprocessors, such as model usual, but on the finished chips are referred to the same question (and please throw slang "Regal" - I from these "stulchik" sick it does not regulate even more), so, all absolutely three-phase controllers contain firmware that adjusts the starting speed and starting current.
There are three windings that are included they are NOT constantly zapolnennye pulses - in promotion algorithms are used to smoothly start the engine and, usually, there is a possibility of programming the controller and specify how many "poles" (at least for smart) or auto detect. Ie where the multipolar magnet (for example, 14 sections) and 3 windings that three phase feed with possible not full filling.
And the problem is in performance. Rinat described and if carefully read, it would be understandable. He also pointed out how weak (less than an ampere) power supplies uses and nothing, and controllers - Mnogomernye (by the way their prices are cheap, it's older, those that are in the hundreds of amps, those cost money).
As far as I know, these glands consist of approximately one - microprocessor like the Datasheet of the youngest, harness, set of MOSFET keys and specialized microcode.

[Михаил_]

Yes, 5000оборотов is very little, should be more at least twice.

[Воффка]

Question, that these components will fit:
http://www.parkflyer.ru/product/103230/
http://www.parkflyer.ru/product/2168/
? What to look for when choosing components?

Voffka You have used these blocks?
Recommendations some controversy.
On the one hand requires "regular"(in the Fene model airplanes ) for a current not less than 20A, otherwise it will not spin.
On the other hand in respect of some regulatory warns that the winding is hard-the engine for large currents are calculated.
At the same time, you know, in the comp it spins from low power 12V. Estimate, if all 20A from the 12V in the engine goes, it needs 240W, and the PSU of the computer, where the most powerful 5V, not 12V, so many have. And more powerful, adjustable and cost much more.

No, they decided not to use. I also found a confusing bunch of links on the website of Rinat page where he gives the specific names of parts and decided to use them. Here are the links to the pages, can someone come in handy:
on this see the names of the two controllers, but the recommended site parkflayer.ru I could only find one that HK-SSH70A if you find a NK-60 I would be grateful.
Here here he cites the names of tachometers and servodrivers.

[ФилиНН]

I also found a confusing bunch of links on the website of Rinat page where he gives the specific names of parts and decided to use them.

Thank you. Yes, if done in a specific line of controllers that they have at the same time with the value of maximum current change and frequency properties of the channels(built-in microprocessor, chtol, here plays a role), it is necessary to know. From General considerations, the current-voltage-resistance is not vytantsovyvaetsya. And there are fifty models for currents 40-80A Dig don't want to. To learn Fenya and lacing on their forum for advice
Wanted in the city to find a point of sale, along with an introductory conversation to talk there. But where he found there the cost is much higher. Delivery not used - capital of debauchery
The model might be necessary - will tell. Although much of samopisny option not rule. The curve intentions will lead.

[Михаил_]

such cheap components purchased for example here
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/index.rc
for a very reasonable amount of time comes from China/

[Л@на]

To the subject of ASD, Michael, what's your bath? Yes, it's acrylic bath with ASD? And for stickers Panacea, the Youth is better to use cast iron, or doesn't matter?

[Михаил_]

The values of the bath material has not. We have a cast iron bath, the only negative - ASD, due to the contained sediment, fine stained different micro-scratches and gouges on the enamel, so now it's yellow-brown mottled. It is actually easy to wash off any obrazivnaya means, but the desire to RUB it for a long time no, because once again blurred. For smooth acrylic, this should not be (a small plaque to be but with smooth rather than the old rough surface it is easily removed). Plaque is formed mainly from Armavir ASD (he's a smelly, he's more powerful). Because of this RAID on the cups from which to drink ASD sometimes scent. In small vials at 20ml which says that they are high clean, no plaque, but I like this one day, somehow too lazy to buy them bags. And production of AVZ felt too weak too.(while diversity and its use, buy half of such and such).

[Алекс С]

1. L@onif acrylic bath, then the precipitate АСД2 launder from hard sponge for dishes, then it does not always take the spray cleaners (Silit Bang, crystal fix, or what do You use for acrylic in the price range of 120-180rub bottle). Then only sandpaper nulevkoy, as described in the instructions to the acrylic tub, but a dozen of naždaček and the hole is ready. In General, acrylic thanks for therapeutic baths in terms of keeping the temperature, because you can immediately do is unheated and the structured water will remain and not catch a cold.

2. Michaelplease You take a 3.5 cube АСД2 in plenty of water three times a day before or after meals and for how many minutes after how many minutes?

3. Tried to save money as three bottles АСД2 150rub per bath stressful. Tried to mix АСД2 with moisturizing gel for the skin (if I drove, I would buy 5 gallons of gel for ultrasound for 500rub). Not rolling, the mixture lost a gel form. And so I wanted to cover yourself gel layer АСД2 and spend more than 3 bottles, and one, Yes, and increase the concentration near the body.
Compare for yourself - bath is 200-300 liters, and the mixture of gel and АСД2 is less than half a liter. So that accepted ideas and wishes to convert АСД2 in a viscous form for application to the body as an alternative to the tub. And sit-lie naked and sticky in the empty tub I is not working. Oh, I forgot to say when I started to cover the body Geleva-ASD mix, due to the large ploshadi evaporation was not childish to cut the eyes and hard to breathe. Wearing glasses and a mask for working with epoxy and the issue was resolved. But the show was even then.

[Л@на]

Thanks for the replies Tub I still iron, but have to buy a new one, that interested.

[Легенда]

Alex

Try it in the bath for a spot of oil on the rocks. The idea also should work as you wanted with the gel.

[Михаил_]

ssssweet
no, save your tub will not work you can just start with the 1st bubble (the effect is still there).
But the gels are all different. Need of water.
And from water nothing eyes tears up and a mask is not necessary to wear a bath warm, pleasant and everything is good....
Bath definitely does not fit in the first stones you can spoil (long then the smell will be) in the second again volatile fractions in the air will fall and will not interfere with breathing at all dumb, so you can burn the mucous membranes to. And in the case with the water - it just dissolves in it, the smell goes away at least.
(to pour directly over the water surface holding the throat, in 1-2-3 mm of water, then SDA goes back and divorced water can not to smell badly).

[Сергей Битков]

Anyone found a suitable HDD, please unsubscribe, and then two dismantled(4d040 maxtor, IBM 24090), the engines are not removed. What to look for?

[Константин.]

Supplement, why need water and not the gel or other inventions:
Water - the natural environment and constitutes a fundamental principle of us. If the inventors consisted of a gel can be used them to cover himself with a mask, flippers and an empty tub to jump and swim
but no! water and only water for baths with ASD.

I dismantled seven of khardov only one faced with nerazborite. The stamps were all different, so there's Council, there is no me.
ay-bi-em = fundamentally not suitable. because of the planes.

[Воффка]

With regard to hardy. I just got server 6 screws, three on the 15t\and about three on the 10t\about here today will go to the store to our screwdriver now for them to buy and how to assort write in detail the names of If anyone has the desire, I am willing to swap components to collect turntables on motors from CDM.

And there are fifty models for currents of 40 to 80A dig don't want to.

The fact that not all are suitable, for reviews some are downright slow. Rinat and these work exactly as it should.

[Воффка]

If nobody does it before me, I'll create a detailed manual with photos and description of "how to build a chopper for those who have a soldering iron in hands did not hold". IMHO Anatomska website all long, complicated and hard to understand.
And now for another question, how to mount the aluminum ring to the base? The dielectric adhesive?
Question two than to fill the hole from where the wires come out from the motor? The dielectric adhesive?
Question three, is necessary-whether to do legs?

[ФилиНН]

And there are fifty models for currents of 40 to 80A dig don't want to.

The fact that not all are suitable, for reviews some are downright slow. Rinat and these work exactly as it should.

There keywords NEHOCHU Times in the line of models have a footy unspecified parameters.
The sawing of the hard. If you have not a thoroughfare maintenance of the site. As I assumed, so did they. 10 minutes with a grinder. Fleece around entire block of hard, tape tightly from the top, the dismantling of protection under the cleaner.
I suspect that if you hit the bottom peg of the shaft, protruding in the centre, the hard, popped up from pressing, it is unlikely that there glue. (maybe I'll try again) the Problem with flat-chlef power is still there - it is glued with a drop of epoxy. The loop can break if you try to unstick the ribbon cable to lay out of planes, or the attempt decompression and how it looks leads to this drop, have not yet seen. Whether there privatisa with this outcome...
Michael wrote that in the first embodiment, the rim is pinned with screws. The properties of the adhesive or pressure I think the role of not particularly play. Mu-conductive - can be considered a clamping element of the wheel rim. Not Mu-conductive element non-conductive base.