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Post by Идущая вперед » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:35

yeah... theta in the evening disrupts sleep specifically.... if you use day - tady dream colourful dreams.... sometimes wasps.... sometimes in the astral kicks (but because I'm afraid and my fears fleshed out then back.... trot....) now about the vibrations... the vibrations increase.... after a while.... maybe an hour or two or three....
when the stress - state of stress is not understood - whether deepened roofing deepening - but in any case it is better tolerated... as if they worked out-processed....

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 12, 2009 15:54

И.К. wrote:I slightly forgot that the Forum citatum not only sane people. I.e. About epilepsy - I personally failed to find any podverzhdennyh case of epilepsy, triggered by AVS. I have searched through the literature - only implanted eletrode... Sometimes. In very extreme cases (ACC. Bechtereva) - when a person has had multiple severing of the spinal cord, and taught him (electrical stimulation) control of his limbs, that, ACC. Adv. science is IMPOSSIBLE. So fear is necessary to begin not earlier than walk on water :) :)
In my practice there was one case. The girl had a rare form of epilepsy at the closing of the eyes, and she in a survey it from me. Don't know what exactly worked AVS or closing the eyes, or a combination, but she felt the approaching attack. I told her to took off his glasses and with open eyes we put another (remedy)session. The attack did not happen. but she says that till the evening felt "uncomfortable"...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 12, 2009 15:55

[Максим] wrote:Finally, at least a little revived branch "CDs theta meditation"! For some reason no one (or almost no one) writes about my experience listening to these discs, like all quiet and foggy. A month ago I finished the first cycle listen to "Creative visualization" (first heard from "theta"). The effect does not feel (or thought I didn't pochuvstvoval, or was not supposed to feel anything), including was not mentioned nightmares. The only thing it can drop the dreams became more vivid, that is, began to see them a little more brightly and clearly. But not the fact that it is due to disk. In General, I want to experiment further. Only does not clear the purpose of these experiments, what to expect and what to strive for. :) I'd love to hear about your experience, forum. Please tell us who listened to CDs theta meditation, what were your impressions, effects, results, what conclusions you came to that discovered for myself... can you give any recommendations. In General, do not hesitate, I think many here would be interested in reading about your experience! :)
And You visualize doing while listening?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 12, 2009 15:59

Джа wrote:And why "someone else", if holopenichsky autofocusing and the brain chooses "their"? The alpha is on top, that - Yes, indeed, this is how to get (although it would be possible to do autofocusing on disk), but it can be addressed and the selection of individual alpha sessions, the type of improve, with an emphasis on certain frequencies, you could even test session to build seven minutes to ten, for the selection, not great range.
"Its" is when fully his - and the amplitude and phase and the power ratio with other waves. No disc or session is, in principle, can not give...

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Post by Джа » Mon Jan 12, 2009 15:59

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according to many authors, a very positive phenomenon, and according to other reports - one of the signs of an impending epilepsy, especially if it has to be the onset of the coherence of the fundamental frequency component of waves in both hemispheres is a joke :? )[/quote]

I here about coherence is not understood. When I was...well Transcendental Meditation Mahesh/Yoga have you studied the waves of brain activity. The concept of agentnet actively used. It meant that in different areas of the brain occur at the same time the alpha wave is approximately a single frequency, which indirectly indicates a more coherent and holistic his work and is perceived subjectively as a state of transcendence :wiz "no mantra, no thoughts." What kaksaetsya combination with alpha, so it's just evidence of researchers of meditators (Tibetan, Zen, etc.), such as Maxwell Cade, wise, etc. - theta occurs against a background of alpha with high amplitude. By the way, as I understand it, Andrei Patrushev, synchronization, and hence coherence is possible only at alpha frequencies. Teta is not for the elite - no not the normal theta meditation.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 12, 2009 16:15

Джа wrote:which, according to many authors, a very positive phenomenon, and according to other reports - one of the signs of an impending epilepsy, especially if it has to be the onset of the coherence of the fundamental frequency component of waves in both hemispheres is a joke :? )

I here about coherence is not understood. When I was...well Transcendental Meditation Mahesh/Yoga have you studied the waves of brain activity. The concept of agentnet actively used. It meant that in different areas of the brain occur at the same time the alpha wave is approximately a single frequency, which indirectly indicates a more coherent and holistic his work and is perceived subjectively as a state of transcendence :wiz "no mantra, no thoughts." What kaksaetsya combination with alpha, so it's just evidence of researchers of meditators (Tibetan, Zen, etc.), such as Maxwell Cade, wise, etc. - theta occurs against a background of alpha with high amplitude. By the way, as I understand it, Andrei Patrushev, synchronization, and hence coherence is possible only at alpha frequencies. Teta is not for the elite - no not the normal theta meditation.
Not so simple...
With epilepsy also have a high sync. The only difference is that epileptics can't control it, and those who have learned are called not epileptics, and psychics... :?
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Post by Джа » Mon Jan 12, 2009 16:39

Where to find the Buddha in order to dissect?

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Post by Джа » Mon Jan 12, 2009 16:59

Me position clear: the MM is the training for what you need, no more, no less. And, as Gendlin says, the boxer is growing really from fights, not from training. As the training well, as the system does not. In principle, indeed, why should something depend on whether it is MM or something. And yet, and yet...There's sometimes a feeling that something is missing, maybe a little like you're house and can not enter. I want to blame it on the imperfection of the MM sessions and stuff, and who can prove that it is not? In my opinion, we do not fucking know what's in my head happening, and what is the relationship between brain, consciousness and awareness. For me the key question : "Satori or not?" - before, after, during, is not important. Can someone share it? Without Osiv, astrals, chakras and other panky

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Post by Dimas » Tue Jan 13, 2009 22:35

ja
That YOU have Satori?

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Post by Сталкер 1 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:53

hi JHA!!! no Satori and other crap. write in the notes. this also applies to others. listen to the 5th disc of the theta mediation. Before I even speculated, a lot live in your fantasy world. What's funny now. Stupidly listened to these discs without any attitude and other crap. No set goals, don't sweat what will happen next. And that noticed. Organism to control its dangerous. I assumed that the brain sometimes do not know what they are doing. I have already seen this. But to listen to the desires of the body and follow the dictates of his body and is cool and useful.

But for this, and it drives well, Patrushev MM nasoseptal different session. but the disks I really pomgli much more. removed some stoppers on the inside. Here, for example. Before I really hated stupid people. I do not know why. What now? Now every adult I see the real child, Motorola need help to understand. I do not soar to people about your abilities. I help them to reveal themselves. ...Oh they out from happiness actually. Anyways it's p....TS on all fronts. Look at people like kids as the man knows wisdom. But believe me I could use all that cleverness to get drunk. The main thing to make everything beautiful.
And if you have to hear me talking on the phone. I learned a lot in training how to speak. It did not help. And then really kicked in and I realized subconsciously. The effect is stunning. This is not to learn the theorem. It is unknown where it comes from. But it comes to me out of nowhere.
Be smart guys. Enough to be nerds, which brains obshestvo rinses. Slushaite drives. It's cool.

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Post by Джа » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:10

Dimas wrote:ja
That YOU have Satori?
"It's not a miracle of some God,
It's not a mystery of the nature of things,
It's like the whitest cloud,
In the pure wind with her sail"
Sy kun Tu "Poem of the poet" Stans "Penetration limit"

Let's just say....until....

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Post by Джа » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:25

Сталкер 1 wrote:hi JHA!!! no Satori and other crap. write in the notes. .....
But for this, and it drives well, Patrushev MM nasoseptal different session. but the disks I really pomgli much more. removed some stoppers on the inside. Slushaite drives. It's cool.
No, actually I was talking only meant that no Theta alpha be a waste of time. Ie if a person has alpha activity persists when listening to theta, then everything should be fine. And if not, it will be stupid to fall into the unconscious and not remember anything, or all sorts of different images are likely to observe (hypnogogia) - and then, it is possible to feel the fog in my head or something "not very". I talked about the possibility of adding alpha to improve the efficiency of theta and the creation of the configuration of waves of brain activity corresponding classical zazen school Soto type sickan of Taza (just sit).

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Post by Джа » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:41

And actually one more thing - are encouraged to go with the flow (session), without expectations, without direction. Here, I think there is a problem. The above poem and a Taoist, so he was not about such a voyage, at least think about it. And such a voyage, it is rather about what they say "don't go down the path of the bird's mind." Actually, I think, requires the presence of certain dynamic factors of the mind. What's it called? This....Here is Huainan said,"If you can't achieve awakening, you have to activate in the mind intuition-Prajna and enlightened it" - something like this (though hazy, probably). To activate inaction, or, for example, to generate a mind that is in no way resides - can be a lot of statements, but the meaning is the same. And this activity may give (or may not) kind of effect, while creating the right conditions, and these conditions can be created using theta and MM. And they do not necessarily have to be perfect - just some space of your mind for consideration is, as I see it, easily done. And by the way, this is exactly what is meant by the words, that to move to freedom, we need at least some freedom to consider the nature of the mind, you need at least some space of mind.

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Post by И.К. » Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:16

Hi All,

For a start, publishers:
A. Patrushev -- "Deconcentration" - 2'14" - asotsiatsia a loud click - copy disc shows that he is so there is a clear problem in the wizard. Jokes aside, feels like a blow to the face (despite the beginning).

Andrew P. - and MB. IT's too cool for sale?? (personally, I'm not afraid)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Jan 24, 2009 13:25

И.К. wrote:hi All,

For a start, publishers:
A. Patrushev -- "Deconcentration" - 2'14" - asotsiatsia a loud click - copy disc shows that he is so there is a clear problem in the wizard. Jokes aside, feels like a blow to the face (despite the beginning).

Andrew P. - and MB. IT's too cool for sale?? (personally, I'm not afraid)
The master has no clicks.
What MB?? :)

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Post by Dimas » Sat Jan 24, 2009 13:28

Andrei Patrushev
type the abbreviated can be :)

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Post by И.К. » Sat Jan 24, 2009 16:09

Андрей Патрушев wrote:On the master has no clicks.
At first I thought player was dead, then not lazy - examined the disk (clean), and then read it on 3 drives on 2 times and copies of the compared bits in a bit - all around 2'14" - click.
Ie this is not a defect of the player, not a defect of the disc and not a defect forming (in the latter case, identical copies would not work).
So will "print out" - pay attention.

About "MB" - somewhere on the 8th (and sadly, last) audition (one for 2 days) I had a short spill (if it was spillage) a long-forgotten fear of the dark. And drugih adverse effects was full (well, for example, "domestic distraction" without compromising concentration - type of transition at the wrong metro line and not only).
So if I had my way - I would not recommend to drive not only the day of the audition, and another 2-3 days at least.
Yes, these theta sessions, and I don't know - that's a good thing or a bad thing.

By the way, as a "remedy" used "healing" by the same author - all effects vanished... a Feeling of complete return to himself, like...

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Post by И.К. » Sat Jan 24, 2009 16:33

The exact time click on Deconcentration - 2 minutes 15 seconds from the beginning.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Jan 24, 2009 21:28

И.К. wrote:the Exact time click on Deconcentration - 2 minutes 15 seconds from the beginning.
It's still a factory defect. Nobody complained, but in meditation it greatly knocks...

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Post by иван_IV » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:18

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
И.К. wrote:the Exact time click on Deconcentration - 2 minutes 15 seconds from the beginning.
It's still a factory defect. Nobody complained, but in meditation it greatly knocks...
Confirm There is a click. Very unpleasant. But, for lack of any other option we have to use what we have. :(

UPD: To be precise, it is not just clicking
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Post by Идущая вперед » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:55

and I have the clicks in the solar wind at the end of the last session, and perceive them as a signal to end listening....
if you can't do anything with this clicking put yourself installation-the anchor (not like NLP) that after clicking at the beginning happens deconcentration well, for example the earlobe or RUB your fingers click ie let the click works in your favor....
after svaih clicks in the solar wind at the end I start to move actively (it's a series of these clicks) and still I have the clicks in the Explorer, too, in the end is the identity signal for activity

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 26, 2009 16:45

иван_IV wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:
И.К. wrote:the Exact time click on Deconcentration - 2 minutes 15 seconds from the beginning.
It's still a factory defect. Nobody complained, but in meditation it greatly knocks...
Confirm There is a click. Very unpleasant. But, for lack of any other option we have to use what we have. :(

UPD: To be precise, it is not just clicking
Clear. :cry: But the master of such a defect can not be in principle. First... is a long story why, :) and secondly, well I listened to it before sending. :?

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Post by [Максим] » Mon Jan 26, 2009 17:55

Идущая вперед wrote:and I have the clicks in the solar wind at the end of the last session, and perceive them as a signal to end listening....
I also "Solar wind" short sharp clicks there (somewhere already wrote about this). Not often, but throughout the disk. Before a little hurt, but now I just don't pay attention to them. Listen through the computer (although with a quite good sound card) and I suspect that the clicks may be just the result of "processing" of sound card. Another option is the accidental marriage on the disk (then, apparently, this is not an isolated case). In any case, nothing wrong with clicking no. :)

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 27, 2009 0:52

Андрей Патрушев wrote:is Clear. But the master of such a defect can not be in principle. First... is a long story why, and secondly, well I listened to it before sending.
Yes, I am that I did - our job is to say, when you get the opportunity to correct.

I would however would recommend for this series of discs categorical warning to the non-driving cars and dangerous machinery 3 days after last listening + clear warning of possible sleep disorders (not necessarily insomnia, like difficulty falling asleep!).
Really great.
You brave man, Andrei Patrushev. And it's good that way. [without a trace of irony.]

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Post by И.К. » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:01

By the way, Monroe (flagship series "Wave") = $500 Yes the kit is the mounting rod, like Bobby... And, personally, I'm always jarred, even better than the wording of affirmations.
This is the question closing conversation and clicks.

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