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Post by Malvina » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:55

Guys, I want to intercede for the girl
Of course, when Millena deleted some of their posts, it seems that the poor girl then made fun of. She is not just telling about their feelings, and we told the readers of the post to the negative Conductor very professional, I think.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:28

Остров wrote:
Евгений Кош wrote:
Остров wrote:Hello Everybody!

Guys, I want to intercede for the girl. Reread everything you've written in a noble effort to protect the Conductor from the machinations of enemies and carping...
Me You hard to understand.. what "protect" You want it?

the girl replied that "conductor" does not fit all.. on this if she has any doubts - even doubts and puts the disk in the direction of... Others ...and the more offensive sentences - fiction :)
No, well, what constructive! :ay I thought forums are designed to discuss various topics.

People came here to discuss something. In this case, you brought the whole process of discussion to one: like, not like-do not eat! And when people tried to insist to be heard and helped, just pushed. I'm sorry, You also difficult to understand.
Duck the first reaction on a conductor always very difficult.. I won lamala physically when listening.. long time.. still listen to it every 3-5 weeks.. the main thing is patience and inner feelings.. if is not.. then force yourself? it's a personal decision.. to listen or not.. why to talk?
And all write about it.. (not all easy and not all at once).. All of the possible challenges through which each held in communication with the conductor she painted... I don't know.. but what else can she be cured?...

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Post by Dimas » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:42

Well guys,really,enough to suck the previous posts,got excited,maybe someone misunderstood,it happens...Let's speak on the topic!Andrew P. promised some time to explain all misunderstandings regarding this controversial drive.

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Post by Остров » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:36

Евгений Кош wrote:All of the possible challenges through which each held in communication with the conductor she painted... I don't know.. but what else can she be cured?...
So far as I understand she didn't have any "schedules-descriptions". :( The question was asked, TS, purely technical. The man became suspicious that the text Explorer has a hidden install. No one dissuaded her, as far as I know, in addition to stubborn denial thereof))

I suspect not, but also have some comments on the text of the Guide. I said above:).
Malvina wrote:we told the readers of the post to the negative Conductor very professional, I think.
The key word in philosophy, psychology and in esotericism -- "seems". :ay
Dimas wrote:enough to chew over previous posts
I agree. I wasn't going to take the fire itself. The desire to be just is present, however. I hope the community here will accept me and I'll be all interesting to talk to:)

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Post by Dimas » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:48

Island
Yes, already took a long time!!! :o az I think we will be all fun!

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:51

Остров wrote:
Евгений Кош wrote:All of the possible challenges through which each held in communication with the conductor she painted... I don't know.. but what else can she be cured?...
So far as I understand she didn't have any "schedules-descriptions". :( The question was asked, TS, purely technical. The man became suspicious that the text Explorer has a hidden install. No one dissuaded her, as far as I know, in addition to stubborn denial thereof))
Oh?? :shock:

And that is - "hidden" installation? is that what heard.. or not heard? :)

And about - schedules, descriptions - what is it ?

(http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php ... &start=460)

.. read where the author answers questions girls.. and I respond to her posts about feelings when listening..
Everything seems fine.. and gently :)

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Post by Остров » Wed Oct 10, 2007 13:08

Евгений Кош wrote:And that is - "hidden" installation? is that what heard.. or not heard?
In this case, the "hidden installation" is only quoted me (and frequently used in this forum) expression. ONLY!

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Oct 10, 2007 13:21

Остров wrote:
Евгений Кош wrote:And that is - "hidden" installation? is that what heard.. or not heard?
In this case, the "hidden installation" is only quoted me (and frequently used in this forum) expression. ONLY!
And how are Your feelings when listening conductor?
I'm the first course of 21 days.. not listening literally 1 day...

The second started.. and not wanted ..
but when it came into the hands of the "Explorer" without the music (thanks to Andrew and Demos).. it is bugged (albeit it long) to the end and quite without any "brittle".. quite normal.. There are a lot of phrases in a permissive manner.. which is very help in working with "problem" places..
And the fact that fall into a trance + permissive phrase ( by the way there in the very beginning saying that You can take a phrase.. or make.. )( what I was afraid of Milena).. so yeah.. you try listen to an audiobook.. while lying in a warm bed.. with a setting for relaxation.. :) TRANS is guaranteed.. even when I'm reading an interesting book.. counted so that the time did not notice.. not what TRANS? :) and the TRANS in this case is welcome.. permissive phrase in this condition better reach the subconscious. and phrases there is a good.. me personally - it all fits. Maybe even something that you can add a (private for me) to get a more effective "conductor" :)

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Post by Pavel » Wed Oct 10, 2007 13:56

>but when it fell into the hands of "Explorer" without the music

It remains only to put this version of "guide" in the section "Catalogue".

Music without words is already there.
Add only the words without the music. :roll: :ap

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Oct 10, 2007 14:27

The cause of this topic was a recent "discussion" ensued in the thread devoted to the disk Explorer. It all started with, at first glance, innocuous post where the person claimed that it is literally insurmountable so long to listen to the Guide that he had an accident... Then there was this helpless girl that complained that this drive gives her a sense of "deadly cold"... Then "the girl" suddenly turned into a relentless fighter, a passionate stamp of the Conductor is quite strange way, quoting huge chunks from the sites of the books on hypnosis (sometimes even not having any relation to the subject of the discussion), and then making obviously absurd comments out of disk chunks of text. Interestingly, the "girl" in a personal message, claims that he graduated from one-year course in NLP Andrei Pligin (a very serious and competent school), so that genuine errors are excluded. Then "the girl" suddenly erased almost all of their posts, so there's again one "poor helpless girl" and "putrid smell", which is now firmly connected with the Conductor. There were other "heroes" with whom you will meet during...
We couldn't leave "it" without attention, first, of course, because it was a very arrogant affected our (it's not delusions of grandeur – I mean and its partners) good name, and secondly, because it's a beautiful example of a well-organized discredit anything. By the way, from the very beginning this company I have a strong feeling that I'm seen somewhere already... And now, looking through personal correspondence in the forum, I suddenly remembered and found a letter from one compassionate woman, who asked me to help the same "poor girl", which was engaged in spiritual practices at K. Castaneda, yeah you lost your memory... it's Funny, but this "girl" wrote K. Castaneda an open letter indignantly demanded that she return to that same memory... Letter it (really very soulful – with a powerful phonosematic suggestive characteristics) was published on the forum, where exactly smashed lucid dreaming. I have long been working with the texts, so once caught (but not immediately realized) this similarity of styles and techniques.
Despite the primitivism and hackneyed patterns, these technologies successfully used in the Internet and other media, as much for me our feelings are (and where strong feelings, there is the logic recede into the background). During the debate I will comment on the technology used, but I'm not "cool" specialist. For those who are more interested in how this is done, I invite you to visit the site http://black.PR-online.ru where is analyzed a huge number of examples and this very clever and insightful comments.
I apologize to all members of the forum whose posts, to preserve the connectivity, had to move in this smelly place...
So there you go...
Meet Milena:

"Don't think it is possible to continue to attract the spotlight is on the common branch. Sorry for the personal message.
Andrew, correct me please. I do not insist, and argue. Again sorry for the "torn" out of context phrase. Again, I don't have the technical capabilities to bring Your session word for word. If the case was legally significant statements - it would be possible to spend the money and time.
I'm curious. Especially as regards me. Don't do any coding, nor zombies. I just love the Russian language. Very. I read at the time, books on NLP, completed a year-long seminar in Moscow in the Center Pligin, read special literature on Ericksonian hypnosis.
Nothing fatal, I said. There are people who don't understand WHAT's happening to them. And it suits them. For me an important awareness.
You, too, snatched from my context of argument about the division of the personality into parts. I told you about the controversy that arises when people perceive themselves holistically. Well, don't You think that's possible. I don't know... Maybe "holistic" individuals do not decide to purchase the disk? (this is an attempt to joke).
About mysticism. God forbid. Believe in science. And don't believe in that "hypnotic" the plant can operate forever. Everything has a deadline. I am familiar with the transferring, the school of Simoron in dad's face and Beard. Refer to these directions in any way. I think that they created for the "lost". As the Frost School of diabetes. I feel sorry for the people caught...
Listening to "Explorer" has led to certain consequences. I have them recorded. I tried to understand the CAUSES of these effects. Described them. You did not like. What?"

will Start at once. The text has significant suggestive phonosematic characteristics (as, to be honest, and my entrance), it is very unlikely to accidentally (without special processing). However, he is "gentle, bright and joyful", which, of course, is to it subconscious confidence. In the Golden section of this text (the most optimal for a key suggestion, or persuasion of the opponent) is the phrase, "I don't believe You that it's possible."<
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Post by Остров » Wed Oct 10, 2007 17:26

Oops! Hopefully, the emergence of garbage is not related to my posts? :shock:

Honestly, I never understood why it was done. (

Targeted PR campaign against You, Andrew, for some reason I don't believe. For the life of me or record me in their enemies (I wouldn't want that of course:). Who cares? Here politforumah all clear XY: who is hired and who is ideological. And here what kind of phobia? It is not clear (.

But such repression as the unconscious dissent, the link to them on the reservation, has always backfired. And then You wonder why I don't trust. and everyone is asking for something, in doubt, consult...

As for my comments to the text guide, I was being completely honest. This is my personal opinion. Subjective. I could be wrong. While I am a professional in the field of PR, advertising (this is not my main job, I work as a journalist), that's what gives me all grounds to Express their point of view on the texts of the Conductor.

The fact that according to the rules of writing advertising texts it is unacceptable to use words with a negative connotation. This alienates the consumer from the product. In Explorer they are there. Me for example, they are not afraid at all, but a little annoying. So I spoke on the topic of what the effect of listening conductor can be reduced from the improper construction of sentences. Repeat. I reserve the right to make a mistake.
Евгений Кош wrote:And how are Your feelings when listening conductor?

Not. Listened to the disc, as I have written in fits and starts. The apartment was small, a lot of children, of peace and quiet-no:) And at work download full. I'm still trying to figure out why I have Lucid dreams not included after the wiretapping of the same name drive. :) But don't think I'll get scared and drop the Windows Explorer) do Not wait. In an extreme case, I was hanging out alone in a Bucket))))<

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Post by Pavel » Wed Oct 10, 2007 17:45

Остров wrote:Listened to the disc, as I have written in fits and starts.
As one of my friends: "First take the course, and then mychi"
Остров wrote:Apartment small children a lot of peace and quiet-no
here's a bummer you have, because of strange circumstances, all who buy the "Explorer" and if it really is they need, always find time and place to listen to it.

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Post by Остров » Wed Oct 10, 2007 18:18

Pavel wrote:As one of my friends: "First take the course, and then mychi"
Dyk there is another wisdom: too Late to do prakshalana after chancre! There is nothing wrong with that man before you start something important, weighing the pros and cons and expressed their doubts. And of course I'll go and "rather hum" yet, do not even hesitate.
Pavel wrote:here bummer you have, because of strange circumstances, all who buy the "Explorer" and if it really is they need, always find time and place to listen to it.
I have no Oblomov:) :wink:

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Post by Pavel » Wed Oct 10, 2007 19:14

Остров wrote:will be too Late to do prakshalana after chancre
Sorry, I don't know the meaning of the words "prakshalana" and "chancre", but it would get the subtle humor.

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Post by Остров » Wed Oct 10, 2007 19:14

Although it would be nice if after the acquisition of the Conductor I at once would increase the number of squares per capita, and I got to his personal account )))) I would called the local moderators, not only as gods, guru and Sensei)) And for the drive built the iconostasis.)

I remain, with great respect to all the seekers.

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Post by Остров » Wed Oct 10, 2007 19:21

Pavel You try to hurt me? But why? :?

By the way, it is strange that a specialist in hydrotherapy does not know what prakshalana;).

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Post by Остров » Wed Oct 10, 2007 19:36

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Well, that's - achieved at last has begun to have negative emotional intensity feedback from users.
Surfactants

Don't know whether it was achieved or not. I tried to do without the negativity, encouraged all to engage in constructive dialogue. I think that is the prism through which we evaluate others.

Personally, I'm always impressed by people doubting, they are more interesting than those. who are categorical in their assessments. Sorry Milena and myself and some local forum that is categorical.

By the way, Andrew, the forum-and I got to personally Express my gratitude to You for the prompt delivery of disks)) So thank you)) But the envelopes do all almost immediately crumbled in the hands.((

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Post by Pavel » Wed Oct 10, 2007 20:20

>You try to hurt me? But why?

What are the wrongs?! Just the way it is - none of the Indian I do not know, so the humor escapes. Besides I have 5 day sore throat strangling - there are only sensations of heat, warmth and joy. :roll:

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Post by Pavel » Wed Oct 10, 2007 20:23

Остров wrote:And here is the envelope, really all almost immediately crumbled in the hands.((
here is the lucky man reached him and directly in his hands crumbled!
and as soon as it got?
but reached the same because :shock:

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Post by Pavel » Wed Oct 10, 2007 20:26

Pavel wrote:but reached the same because
so for this one should drink!
So we'll get a glass!
And we'll drink a glass of water!
And eat we salt!

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Post by Pavel » Wed Oct 10, 2007 20:27

Pavel wrote:And eat we salt!
and not just salt and marine natural that we all naturally have.

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Post by Остров » Wed Oct 10, 2007 20:31

Came))) I only had time to deploy)))
Pavel wrote:I'm day 5 as angina choking
Sorry. The day before yesterday I tried to strangle, Yes, I wouldn't let her)) during the day to be done several times pranayama, and the next morning fit as a fiddle was)) Advise))

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Oct 10, 2007 20:43

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Cause of this topic was a recent "discussion" ensued in the thread devoted to the disk Explorer. It all started with, at first glance, innocuous post where the person claimed that it is literally insurmountable so long to listen to the Guide that he had an accident...
.....
This post wrote me.
However, I have a huge surprise that my posts are put in one row with posts Milena.
Actually there was a post in a draft that is NOT the desire to listen - had an accident.. (I wonder.. where did you find this?) .. and from the fact that the subconscious sensing that something was trying to lead me faster to a safe place - home.. and knowing that I am serious about this to "Explorer" and listen to him with pleasure as soon as there is desire.. then I shared .. I guess the subconscious has made every effort, including sodas want to listen to the guide ... if only I faster went home.

Andrew, in this case, I think Your opinion is incorrect in relation to my post about the accident... not denying that maybe I used the wrong word.. so now I try to Express myself more clearly, in relation to this case.

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Post by Pavel » Wed Oct 10, 2007 20:45

Остров wrote:In the course of the day to be done several times pranayama, and the next morning fit as a fiddle was)) Advise))
again guys you suck at this. :roll:

I'm old-fashioned old "good" way - hot bath, then green tea with honey and Cahors wine and go to bed under the blanket with his head to sweat a little help. In it went then hot milk with butter, honey, salt, baking soda, cinnamon.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Oct 10, 2007 20:51

In psihbolnitse.
Doctor the patient:
- well, You and thought...
Patient:
- duck because we've got a place...

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