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Lit up mind-machine!
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 16:12
by Лодочник
Tell me please, if you know the following. Is it possible to a mind-machine to record his music, and the best voice for hypnosis. Heard that hypnosis at the sound of the specific frequencies work better... If so what MM is best for this? It was the first

. Second: when someone of you will recommend a specific model, then I order it (how to pay, what time, where to get) - do not write "as usual"

I don't know how this is usually done. Thing really interesting and although it looks like the usual "inetovskih trickery" I was very interested in, it's time for us to do this (because I think the device simple). Thank you.
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 16:37
by Dimas
Re: Burned mind-machine!
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 18:05
by Князевский
magician podskazat, write to the PM. I just ordered hasn't come in yet, but I'll explain very lucidly.
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 20:07
by Лодочник
knyazivs'ke
What is PM, I don't know? Located in Yekaterinburg. And here the problem is, I want to buy but don't know how. The whole forum read neither the time nor the desire not!
And who the distributor is that? If not for this site, then at least post a link.
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 22:27
by Князевский
on Monday I will answer you in the most detailed way. But if you don't want to wait, go to contacts, contact A. by Kabankova.
Nothing complicated. If there is time, wait, I step-by-step skins.
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 22:25
by Лодочник
knyazivs'ke
Thanks, I will wait with impatience.
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 23:21
by Владимир Никонов 2
Boatman, thanks for your message. At me after they found the insight that it is not clear how to buy.
Made all the more convenient. Order mindmachine just. See
http://www.mindmachine.ru/contact.htm
On this page you will fill out the form and we will send you a letter about how and where to pay.
After payment - you will be mindmachine special delivery service. The courier will deliver it to you right in your hand. The courier will be contacted in advance of course and agree with you about the meeting.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 14:33
by Князевский
Here's more, from personal experience.
1For starters, it is advisable to know what translation system you have in your town. (WU.A.MT)
2B, the contact section to contact those who will be directly engaged in clearance of goods.
3Указать which model you would like to purchase.
4После what you'll charge, where everything is painted, from the price of the order, to the names of remittance recipients (accountant).
5После you go to the Bank and transfer money to a specified name.(still it is desirable to know which streets are located near the office, otherwise you can make a run of people throughout Moscow. And transfer the money to the nearest translation).
6Вам, after the transfer, the Bank, handed a piece of paper with the specified number. It will give you and the sellers.
7Продавцы get the money and ask where to send it. Once you specify what you want to buy, and of course, provide the address of your residence.
8После which will only have to wait for the parcel.
For Popovu the mail is a Federal reference number: 8-800-20-05-055
(a call across Russia free)
The cost of the chickens. delivery in Russia, 700 RUB.
Naturally, there will be still some questions, but the basic steps I brought.
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 21:10
by Элен
If you can, add your question. I don't have the mind-machine, although the interest there. To start bought 4 disk A. Patrushev, and I'm satisfied, I take a few months. Maybe the question correctly, but here is: is the action of mind-machine and discs A. Patrushev (without a car) is something similar effectiveness and purpose, the result?
The thrill of the drives I have experienced, but from the machine yet, so it's hard deciding on a purchase, though the interest is there.
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 21:25
by Князевский
Элен wrote:If you can, add your question. I don't have the mind-machine, although the interest there. To start bought 4 disk A. Patrushev, and I'm satisfied, I take a few months. Maybe the question correctly, but here is: is the action of mind-machine and discs A. Patrushev (without a car) is something similar effectiveness and purpose, the result?
The thrill of the drives I have experienced, but from the machine yet, so it's hard deciding on a purchase, though the interest is there.
MM more accurately and diversely gives stimulation, but in General, it is believed that they are similar, although the Healing I prefer to listen than just noise. But Healing is one thing, and MM can be programmed.
I also heard somewhere that the disks Patrushev can be used to charge the water, put for the night under a glass of water 46 cm discs, and in the morning the water is already strukturirovana.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 21:29
by Алекс78
Элен wrote:If you can, add your question. I don't have the mind-machine, although the interest there. To start bought 4 disk A. Patrushev, and I'm satisfied, I take a few months. Maybe the question correctly, but here is: is the action of mind-machine and discs A. Patrushev (without a car) is something similar effectiveness and purpose, the result?
The thrill of the drives I have experienced, but from the machine yet, so it's hard deciding on a purchase, though the interest is there.
The machine has significant advantages:
*You can listen to quite a diverse set of sessions with only audio stimulation and visual stimulation that enhances the effect;
* if the machine can be used as a decoder signal audiostrobe (this applies to Innerpulse and Novapro) that You can listen to CDs with audiostrobe using more and points, which again enhances the effect of the disks..
Here..

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 22:00
by Карил
Князевский wrote:MM to more precisely and variously gives stimulation, but in General, it is believed that they are similar, although the Healing I prefer to listen than just noise. But Healing is one thing, and MM can be programmed.
I also heard somewhere that the disks Patrushev can be used to charge the water, put for the night under a glass of water 46 cm discs, and in the morning the water is already strukturirovana.

4.6 cm Andrei sealed, and drives any suitable.
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 22:09
by Карил
Князевский wrote:Элен wrote:If you can, add your question. I don't have the mind-machine, although the interest there. To start bought 4 disk A. Patrushev, and I'm satisfied, I take a few months. Maybe the question correctly, but here is: is the action of mind-machine and discs A. Patrushev (without a car) is something similar effectiveness and purpose, the result?
The thrill of the drives I have experienced, but from the machine yet, so it's hard deciding on a purchase, though the interest is there.
MM more accurately and diversely gives stimulation, but in General, it is believed that they are similar, although the Healing I prefer to listen than just noise. But Healing is one thing, and MM can be programmed.
I also heard somewhere that the disks Patrushev can be used to charge the water, put for the night under a glass of water 46 cm discs, and in the morning the water is already strukturirovana.

And for me it is the opposite. Although I listen in where mostly Relax session. Disk Explorer to compare to MM is not correct, if I'm not mistaken there binaural beats at all.
Mindmachine listening easier as the alpha state just enough to feel. With the disc "Healing" I have a lot more problems. First it is necessary to tune, that is not enough to just relax with MM. There is some "thin", "light" condition. Like alpha waves, sort of not. Secondly this thin as easily vylivaetsya some sharp sound type slamming the door. When listening mindmachine condition is much more stable (but different, more like a "heavy" half asleep). Although maybe the fact that I listen to mm in closed headphones, and "Healing" in the open. But "Explorer" I also listen in the open, and such problems did not arise.
Oh and. After a relaxation session need time to "swing" because they feel heaviness, warmth, well and pressure apparently decreases. After "Healing" the condition is easier, more cheerful.<
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:42
by Guest
Helenand there is something what You haven't received the disks,but would like..(ie think that you will get from MM)??
P. s. even the financial issue.Stupidly,can buy MM.
IMHO,MM extends the field of experimentation,but something supersomething does not make.

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:41
by Guest
Thank you very much!
If the effect is similar, it may make sense to buy another disk A. Patrushev, without investing while in MM. It is interesting to try the "solar Wind", the Massage of the Brain. I have Healing, Conductor, Star traveler and Endorphins.
I probably was more interested in not so much feelings while listening to much better feelings, social adaptability, efficiency of working with MM discs. Me for example, Carilo, remembered and loved, as You wrote (don't remember what the topic) an example about pridvinutyh a bottle of water, and about how You become more flexible, wiser refers to it, began to divide important and the little things, the little things not to pay attention, and important to defend. As You feel the effect more from the mind-machine or disk?
And is there in the mind machine, this session, which helps to get rid of negative thoughts when I think and remember something unpleasant, hurtful from the past, and I can't live for today? Here I disks have not yet helped. From the Endorphins seem to have increased internal aggression on all that was and is what (I think) I get no pleasure from life, although from the first auditions, the mood improved, fun became and the brighter colors, just like that, and then around that way of thinking, "I can't feel good if such a situation was in the past, yet is there in life, etc.", and went Babysitting in the negative.
I read the description of the mind-machine, and I liked that there is a session for different needs: to increase efficiency, the settings on the working day, and for the development of creativity, and "reset" and relaxation, entertainment there's something for stress relief, to sleep. If it all works as described, it's great! While I understand that all individually, and what works for one person, another could be "how about a wall peas."
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:42
by Guest
Thank you very much!
If the effect is similar, it may make sense to buy another disk A. Patrushev, without investing while in MM. It is interesting to try the "solar Wind", the Massage of the Brain. I have Healing, Conductor, Star traveler and Endorphins.
I probably was more interested in not so much feelings while listening to much better feelings, social adaptability, efficiency of working with MM discs. Me for example, Carilo, remembered and loved, as You wrote (don't remember what the topic) an example about pridvinutyh a bottle of water, and about how You become more flexible, wiser refers to it, began to divide important and the little things, the little things not to pay attention, and important to defend. As You feel the effect more from the mind-machine or disk?
And is there in the mind machine, this session, which helps to get rid of negative thoughts when I think and remember something unpleasant, hurtful from the past, and I can't live for today? Disks Here I have not yet helped. From the Endorphins seem to have increased internal aggression on all that was and is what (I think) I get no pleasure from life, although from the first auditions, the mood improved, fun became and the brighter colors, just like that, and then around that way of thinking, "I can't feel good if such a situation was in the past, yet is there in life, etc.", and went Babysitting in the negative.
I read the description of the mind-machine, and I liked that there is a session for different needs: to increase efficiency, the settings on the working day, and for the development of creativity, and "reset" and relaxation, entertainment there's something for stress relief, to sleep. If it all works as described, it's great! While I understand that all individually, and what works for one person, another could be "how about a wall peas."
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:48
by Руся
Hi all!Advise what better to buy MM?
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:48
by Элен
Message above mine, for some reason, the first time went, and what poluchilos twice the same

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:07
by Карил
Руся wrote:hi all!Advise what better to buy MM?
For personal use - InnerPulse glasses and white premium. Although Andrei Patrushev advises glasses Indigo.
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:37
by Guest
Гость wrote:is there a mind-machine this session, which helps to get rid of negative thoughts when I think and remember something unpleasant, hurtful from the past, and I can't live for today?
this works fine Conductor. Anyway, I have.
Just didn't remember the "bad" situation, and then their recollection was not felt nothing.. As if they're processed, and then "neat" is out.
But if my memory serves me, have A. Patrushev created session to MM just for such purposes. It must be pumped into the machine, and then listen.
So here goes...
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 13:04
by Карил
Anonymous wrote:About pridvinutyh a bottle of water, and about how You become more flexible, wiser refers to it, began to divide important and the little things, the little things not to pay attention, and important to defend. As You feel the effect more from the mind-machine or disk?
And is there in the mind machine, this session, which helps to get rid of negative thoughts when I think and remember something unpleasant, hurtful from the past, and I can't live for today? Here I disks have not yet helped.
I sit and think that the water is so...

Remembered still.
The first time I was "high" when I drink novopassit + training with biofeedback GSR "Mirage-1". On the website Psychotronics "Mirage-1" do not sell, but is the "Mental Games". I think they should be fine. Then your body gets used to the medication, I was sick and as a result all came back, though in a reduced form.
I didn't like and don't like the idea of sitting on a sedative, especially to him produced addictive and it ceases to operate. In short, I continued daily (morning and evening) training with biofeedback. I tried to relax as best as possible. Read my post "a Simple method of relaxation" in the "mental games"
http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=1418
In General, I am now preparing two rather important clarification to what I wrote. But as a guide what to do to relax my description fits.
But time passed and passed, and such results as in the beginning was not. And there is still. Apparently novopassit still a cool thing.
I noticed such a moment. When I was sick in the morning RAG was a 4.0. And when I had 6-6,5-7. Oh, and began actively treated. I posted the post about the cold, but did not really know. Then I started drinking antiviral drug
Arbidol + vitamins + fish oil. To improve energy - qudesan Forte For immune support Echinacea purpurea. And three homeopathic antiviral spoke Sandra + of coryzalia + Anaferon. By the way the Cylinders in terms of dealing with a cold nifiga does not help.
The cold began to recede. This was particularly evident after administration of Arbidol. Because I started drinking first, and only then added the vitamins and everything else. There was energy and KGR in the morning began to fall. At first it was already 5-6 units, and then 4-5. But after training with the GSR started tickle in the throat, freeze and hurt the ear.
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That's dashed off somewhere. I hope to read not tired? Well, in short, will receive continued...
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I noticed that all of the following below increases kGy, lowers energy and interferes with relaxation. And therefore makes it impossible to be more than adequate, quiet during the day. Become nervous, sleepy, angry. Everyone wants to prove something and running into conflicts.
1. Fatigue. (For example, from working at the computer.)
2. Vysypaem (sufficient sleep and a clear, stable sleep schedule)
3. Cold. (Lowers vitality and as a result increases tiredness and fatigue. That is much tired even if you do nothing at all.)
At the moment I do not get sick and more or less the order sleeping. The problem is that I can't establish a clear timetable for training with DreamStalker. As a result I can't pull my energy and activity to the maximum.
Due to the average energy level, I don't have the strength to rejoice. That is the spontaneous feeling of pleasure which was previously now comes. But then we have to choose between sleep and exercise.
But! Medium activity level is enough to be calm and cheerful. To adequately respond to the jokes and not taken them with the bayonet. Well, to calmly accept other annoying things like the same water.
Energy by itself is not enough and need more skills inhibition CNS in critical (and not critical) situations. It's a skill that you can develop a pursuing with the bio feedback device based on galvanic skin response.
The problem of training relaxation that we don't know where we are. Here I sit for an hour, and relaxed or not I do not know. When there is feedback it goes much better. For example, a sneeze or a door slammed and GSR jumped up on a couple of units. But if you want to escape from the sudden slam of the door or screaming (go away not even in yourself, but in General somewhere from itself into the depths and the void), the change in GSR happens. Or are these changes quickly come back. And he KGR gradually decreases (although it is actually increased, but not the point). The point is to learn to react calmly to sudden sounds. Calmly respond and escape from his own troubling thoughts. The latter is much more difficult. If a bad mood, if tired and my head is spinning some kind of resentment. Go of resentment is very difficult, thoughts are constantly and imperceptibly come back to this thought-gewecke. Likewise prevent to relax and thought about something really good.
As illustrative example want to tell you about a encephalograph. I the evening, something read on the forum and was excited that almost all of the training with biofeedback GSR thought about it. Kind and relaxed and my head is empty, but gradually the brains themselves are beginning to think again, to write in the subject line. In place with the thoughts comes the excitement. And after this excitement I know I need to start to disperse thoughts, to calm down happily excited the psyche. And intellectually, I understand that I have this system for at least six months fails to Shine, but with feelings to cope fails. In short, I think this will come with experience and training.<
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 13:05
by Алекс78
Карил wrote:Руся wrote:hi all!Advise what better to buy MM?
For personal use - InnerPulse glasses and white premium. Although Andrei Patrushev advises glasses Indigo.
Regarding points: if finances allow, perhaps better all the same Color track. Why? IMHO: a beginner is usually difficult to choose colors to stimulate(by myself I know

). That you take green for example, and you find that this color does not suit You...
About the brightness: it's unlikely that first requires high brightness LEDs - while there brain will get used to it...
But this is only speculation... all individually..

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 13:08
by Карил
Anonymous wrote:is there a mind-machine this session, which helps to get rid of negative thoughts when I think and remember something unpleasant, hurtful from the past, and I can't live for today?
In principle, well help relax session. But if you have problems with energy, fatigue and cold. Plus, if the negative thoughts are too strong or too strong habits to think, relaxing session give not so pronounced effect, which quickly disappear.
In short, biofeedback (and at first, novopassit) to help you.
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 13:13
by Карил
Алекс78 wrote:Карил wrote:Руся wrote:hi all!Advise what better to buy MM?
For personal use - InnerPulse glasses and white premium. Although Andrei Patrushev advises glasses Indigo.
Regarding points: if finances allow, perhaps better all the same Color track. Why? IMHO: a beginner is usually difficult to choose colors to stimulate(by myself I know

). That you take green for example, and you find that this color does not suit You...
About the brightness: it's unlikely that first requires high brightness LEDs - while there brain will get used to it...
But this is only speculation... all individually..

Color track I did not like - there svetodiodnye matrix is small and not against the eye. Either Shine in the right eye or the left. Premium glasses LEDs 4 and the area they Shine the most. Ideally, you should do the points under your eyes, the forum was somewhere in the corresponding topic.
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 13:54
by Алекс78

I agree, but it's all the nuances that a beginner is hardly important; but working with different colors, and taking into account the shortcomings of bought device you can try to find something better,or something to whip up:for himself and his own needs...
