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The first experience

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 17:17
by Псих
I bought the device just.

To begin to tell what happened in the office.

I was very hesitant in choosing points - either colored or premium white. To resolve my doubts considerate seller (by the way he has a keen interest in egh) offered to try and those and others in action.

Wearing premium white: it all started with the mixed noise through the headphones (low and high frequencies, however, nice combinations) and the twinkle in his eyes. The shimmer from the very beginning was accompanied by mild visual hallucinations (but this can be attributed to the bright light and surge).

It took probably 20-30 seconds, hallucinations, increased, emerged a whirlpool, spinning the plane... I was still able to think, but the internal dialogue has stopped. All thoughts were directed not to pass out right in the office.

After another minute I felt that here-here will go into some abnormal state, and happily broke glasses headphones (STILL WORKED!).

10 minutes shared experiences with all staff... And decided to try colored glasses.

Here the effect was less strong, probably affected by the lower brightness of the light (there was one little svetodiody for each eye, plus I had it below half a centimeter than it should be, because of what interesting the intensity of light is achieved only when I looked down down.

But randomly selecting mode changes colors, and even different for each eye I began to see the promised intricate fractals and drawings. Plus for example a matte-blue light very nicely acted and the feeling that everything is soft and pleasant...

The result is a lot of having switching colors (which actually bothered to focus on the action of the device) I took off my gear.

And asked once more tried trovit. And again began spinning some unreal shapes of geometry... so after a minute I clearly could tell what fit these points.

I would like to mention that after such a short treatment I was pretty uncomfortable.

Next attentive seller advised me about drive audiostrobe, and choosing any I made the purchase, happily with everyone saying goodbye (even with the guard opens the gate)...

Hurried underground as they could, but still had to go to the store for groceries... All excited ran home and unpacked the appliance!

To test, I chose the short, but it seems that the hard session the rotation of the mind.

(By the way, I want to note one feature of the device occurs before the start of the 10 second countdown, giving the ability back to put equipment on the head-receiver.)

SO:
It all started with high-frequency sounds and some strange clicking in the headphones, the glasses blinked as usual creating a bizarre shape...
the consciousness of pleasing presence...
BUT! at the moment of releasing the sound frequency began to occur to some ugly resonance in the head, so that the images appeared blue and red colors, and I felt like I was a friend began to perceive the outside world... really felt for a couple of seconds, because then the consciousness returned to normal mode -- describe it is unlikely to succeed, the only comparison which came to mind (and here) - everything was DIFFERENT.... the device, meanwhile, continued to drill my brain with their simulations, and not long to wait for a second wave, in the middle of which I was again overtaken by a terrible outcry, accompanied by a frantic shake of the eyelids... there was a bit of a panic... which was gradually developed into the feeling of ANOTHER perception... when the resonance is increased, colors became much brighter, and I have a feeling that someone hammer me in the head (not pain of course, and some OTHERS) trying to drive somewhere deep... after a few seconds with a cry tore the ammunition from the head and unplugged the device...

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 17:29
by Андрей Кабанков
If the eyelids are trembling,it is better to decrease the brightness.Start with sessions on relaxation.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 17:34
by Псих
Yes they seem to have been shaking not from brightness, but from the General stimulation... I have the usual meditation was observed similar effects with tremor century, but not with such incredible sensations...

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:02
by ШДен
If I did not have a machine, I would think ADVERTISING!

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:31
by Dimas
Yeah,cool...it is written!!!You,dear Crazy (not very suits You this nick,You look normal normal!!! :D ) pookuratnee with a typewriter...Remember the alpha session (session on relaxation also in the alpha range)...two weeks it is advisable to deal only with them...don't want to lose a kindred spirit!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:07
by Dimas
Yes,perhaps the effect of the machine will vary...need to be prepared for that.But the conclusion made is this:People,even practicing a little meditation,much faster enter into the state of the machine...This is my experience and not only (as is)...And the machine is much faster to learn the latest..(and the advanced levels).

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:44
by Псих
By the way here yesterday, I thought - but it does not disappear, the effect of the device and decided to try it again - it's really gone)))
looks like the psychic energy burned or defensive unit put subliminal...
today I'll try something quiet in the alpha, will tell you what happened..
Dimas, and what specific built-in sessions from innerpulse better use for pumping alfareria?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:49
by Dimas
All of the intrinsic relaxation (r 1,2,3,4,5 etc),so i2 (improv,only don't confuse,it is number 2)!And you can download from our website session Andrew P.)...

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 15:09
by Псих
Dimas and i2 how can I modify?
Recently, there http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=6&start=60 gone are the posts about placing some options for a more interesting browsing session improve, but I'm confused about the numbers on the screen that I can not understand what they display and exhibit Lee)
It's not difficult to paint for the silly little manual on how to do this?)

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 15:12
by Dimas
Of course,the current later!!;)closer to the evening...busy...

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 18:05
by Dimas
Псих wrote:Dimas and i2 how can I modify?
Recently, there http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=6&start=60 gone are the posts about placing some options for a more interesting browsing session improve, but I'm confused about the numbers on the screen that I can not understand what they display and exhibit Lee)
It's not difficult to paint for the silly little manual on how to do this?)
You try to follow the instructions at this link,where I in detail describe all the... http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=6&start=60
Do not pay attention to the numbers,watch what letters appear!!! :D

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 13:09
by Псих
Yesterday, I tried r07 (down and back).
No special visual hallucinations, but the name is justified by the effect: the body is relaxed so as never to relax, to move could do nothing (or not much wanted, and to say to move the finger had to be a Herculean effort to exert), and the mind gradually calmed down, although the periods have begun an internal dialogue, but just wilderness. Well, at the end of the session delicately displays in beta mode to back to work. The session ended and I had to count to five to at least open your eyes)) and then the thumb straight hands to start moving...

And just recently tried three sessions in a row (including MindSpin) the first two were so-so effect (but that's Rebooting the brain with the included music by Infected Mushrooms gave a very positive effect)

The main thing that I realized - for me to have started appearing colors and bright images, it is necessary to increase the brightness on the instrument almost to the maximum...

Although the forum advised to take it to a bare minimum... that's not even know why I have so?

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 13:10
by Псих
But the way with instructions understood, however the effect is not noticed on improve, Yes I tried it first time)

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 13:38
by Dimas
Indeed,the more brightness,the more cartoons!!;)In the office I gave You to listen to импрув2 c digital flashing and ics dropped to 15....If you engage in lying-less images and the deeper the immersion,the sitting posture is straight and relaxed back and down her chin (not much,like Buddha) gives a lot of pictures...

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 14:10
by Псих
The subtle nuances)
It should be something like to collect these recommendations and chips in a nice article and put it on the website, so new users of the device will be easier, well I think not all tested yet)

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 16:07
by Псих
Oh yeah.... kerf i2 with 15 seconds change the rhythm and square light pulses + kerf with player infected mushrooms.

Effect as the day before, apparently the intensity of the light + music kicked in, only this time I'm not scared of this condition.

And if you move your head it becomes deeper, colors blink are different, and as MORE arise.... wow... but after a few moments still tore off his sunglasses and headphones, shouting...) very much it seems so crazy, and as if there did not remain)

And by the way, on account of the audiostrobe CDs with, if someone has a flash-mp3 player, it drives grabbit in wav format and player record. (I have just a cd player no, and the sense right now to buy it do not see) So the player all of the light signals is preserved, glasses flashing as it should, plus it is very small.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 16:10
by Псих
That's the way to Andrei Patrushev question - that it at me in a strange condition arises? (what in the previous and first posts described)
Meditation does not seem likely some hyperarousal. And forever at the apogee of sensations twitching with the frequency of flashing light.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 16:19
by Dimas
They will flash from lubei high-frequency component of the sound..this is not to say that this audiostrobe...

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 16:22
by Псих
Dimas wrote:They will flash from lubei high-frequency component of the sound..this is not to say that this audiostrobe...
How to check?

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 17:28
by Pavel
Yeah, the Psycho, it is clear things are not so!

From buying the car You have decided to Shine on high to deliver and decent volume enable, and then wonder why such a miracle Yudo happens.
And then I start a month long at a minimum kept :evil: No distortions :twisted: What You want :P

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 17:33
by Псих
It is the opposite of good)
And you have in a month what changes have occurred? and in the first month, what feelings were from the device?

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 18:36
by Pavel
in "first impressions," there's only my one metopic with a mind-machine! This is probably because of innerpulse 1.5 months I listened to the discs Patrushev, who leveled all of my biases, and because innerpulse produced nothing.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 19:09
by Андрей Патрушев
Псих wrote:That's the way to Andrei Patrushev question - that it at me in a strange condition arises? (what in the previous and first posts described)
Meditation does not seem likely some hyperarousal. And forever at the apogee of sensations twitching with the frequency of flashing light.
Under certain combinations of frequencies of light and sound and their high intensity sometimes there is a very creepy feeling, like someone digging in soft fingers You have in mind... :shock: I also fell several times on these feelings and tore off his glasses with fright. But then I decided to see what would happen next. Nothing happened, though, like on a roller coaster ride the entire session. Then these feelings have been smoothed out greatly and began to appear only at the beginning of the session.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:18
by Саша
Good day to all!
The machine was purchased just 5 days ago. Started with enthusiasm to enjoy all sessions without discrimination. Honestly, nothing yet. And that "teapot" count? :oops: Although, a little reading the forum, I understand that you need a certain period (about 2 weeks), the type of "feel" the machine. So do not lose enthusiasm, but begin to suspect that training should be done in a certain order. Therefore I ask to help Council: with what to begin the sessions how long to be patient, what else to do to "enter"? :?: thank you :)

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:24
by Андрей Патрушев
Hello, Sasha!
First engage with the sessions of the section "r" (all), i2, P2, take a minimal volume and brightness, try to further relax yourself. Better two times a day for 15-20 minutes than once, but for a long time.

Good Luck Running!