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Question about mind machine

Post by Дмитрий Юрьевич » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:14

Good time of day.
Maybe I'm wrong, but the practice of using mind machine, as I understand, is only the prerogative of enthusiasts. Is there not a single experience of this kind of devices in medical, rehabilitative, psychological, etc. centers?
Alarming that information about the mind machine, in the Russian segment of the Internet presented very poorly. I personally doubt in the justification of technology as such, generally.
Not to mention the fact that on the website, next to the subject, adjacent the section "Technomage", the goods which excuse me, cause I have a storm of skepticism that somehow talking about it uncomfortable.

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Re: Question about mind machine

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:34

See the section of the article,there is a lot of information on MM.
In Russia, they used long ago,the first major contract of Photosonics (several thousand devices) was with the interior Ministry before we started to introduce these products in Russia has purchased a Nova Pro 100 for rooms of psychological relief.
MM is now actively we buy correctional institution for use by staff in public procurement contracts.

With regard to the technological magic,it's purely your problem,your problem miaopinie,not of goods presented in the section.
Question works-works has long been removed from the agenda,this stage has been completed two years ago.Now the crucial questions of how to most effectively use the products and technology.Read the forum.
To discuss your "a storm of scepticism" about the Technomagic do not see any sense,because the items in this section you,as I understand it ,not bought and not used because of their beliefs,respectively, of the subject of discussion there.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:51

Innerpulse Photosonix included in the list of required devices (approved by government) for rooms of psycho-emotional discharge in the Russian Army.

" P ABOUT WITH T AND N ABOUT IN L E N t the government of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION of 29 March 2007 No. 190"
The document is very big to find have a search ("find in this page") to specify the word Voyager.
It there are, however, in the best traditions of the Soviet army called enerplus... :lol:
And Voyager is also a device of audio-visual stimulation, but another firm - "Teta Technologies"
"Mindmachine" is actually not a scientific term, but a jargon. :? To find the relevant scientific publications necessary to type: "audio visual stimulation of the brain," "audiovisual stimulation of the brain", just "audio visual stimulation", "audio-visual stimulation", "ABC"(eng.), "AVS" (latin.)
Here we've collected this.

Good luck! :)

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Post by к-13 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 18:50

In 2007 the Department of psychological assistance at the police Department for the Krasnodar territory Ministry of internal Affairs was allocated as much as 4 pieces "Nova Pro 100", however, no one explained what to do with them, so they are in boxes and transferred inventory from one accountable to another (this was told to me sweet girl Nastya who works there). I tried some enlighten that it "simulators for the brain" and a good remedy for chronic fatigue, but I was told that the specialist does not appear, "which will work for them"(and this probability tends to zero), they will be in boxes to send, "and then suddenly decided to check, and they are broken". The voyagers were also...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Jan 18, 2012 20:22

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Advise them to go for training in Law Institute of the Ministry of internal Affairs in Yekaterinburg. :)

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Post by к-13 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 21:27

Actually, I don't know understand anyone now there are these devices - I myself in early 2010 on this topic in the last contact, then the link to this forum gave, maybe someone is interested... This I mean that the devices actually officially introduced for use in the current police(and there just so the money is not allocated), another thing is that as usual we have at Home - ... through the thorns to the stars))) In the internal troops, too, in the room of psychological unloading Tsppir division according to the standards should be 3 mind-machine and 2 of the device is bare, you can even order the Ministry to find where something was in store.

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Re: Question about mind machine

Post by Димас » Wed Jan 18, 2012 21:49

к-13 wrote: can even order the Ministry to find where something was in store
Find please a huge request!
If there is scanned - just perfect, I would be very grateful!

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Re: Question about mind machine

Post by к-13 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 14:42

Here, found in the folder left after short service in the interior Ministry az )))
http://narod2.yandex.ru/disk/3814953200 ... %D0%B3.doc
if you need a scanned original, it needs to be a psychologist in any large Department nearby 8)
Here, too, "ABS Portable stimulator "inner Plus" (Voyager)"
Raised in correspondence, the "New" in the Kuban police was 5, not 4.

Can some paint on the list, where you know what)))

the bio feedback Device "Relana" to teach methods of self-regulation is such a gray coffin, like a voltmeter, showed galvanic skin response with deflection arrows. The one that I saw was connected to the palm of your hand small sticky electrodes, such as ECG unit or muscle stimulator.

Projection color dynamic device "C - 300" for the regulation of mental state - sent to the wall and work like a kaleidoscope, another of the same series are PLASMA or CITADIN(the Latter made from children's filmoscope, you will also need a motor the shaft of which rotates cut and curved CD. The light shines on him and on the wall out of the rotation of the color pictures).

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Re: Question about mind machine

Post by Димас » Thu Jan 19, 2012 16:58

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Thank You Very Much! az

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Re: Question about mind machine

Post by к-13 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 19:13

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Advise them to go for training in Law Institute of the Ministry of internal Affairs in Yekaterinburg.
Today Kumarakom mentioned with the right man on this subject... nothing will - they have a turnover crazy - rarely more than a year in the division has been delayed sensible, mainly graduates, will polytrade a bit and then jump. The newcomers all passed formally on the inventory, nobody to explain nothing. While on a business trip to send - again depends on material security question for your account no one will go, but management will not give money... In General, as I understand it, there's just nobody needs it...
Димас wrote:K-13
Thank You Very Much! az
From the heart there is :oops:
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Re: Question about mind machine

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Jan 19, 2012 19:19

K-13
Yes, in town we have the same picture... :cry:

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