Questions professionals.

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Sorry sad little information about the use of MM in the medical and psychological practice, and opinions of qualified specialists is not enough
It is clear that MM is not positioned as medical devices, but we all know...
the big request to respond those who are in the subject. I am especially interested in addiction and affective disorders, since I am a psychiatrist and I see the prospects here.
I hope this post will not be considered propaganda illegal use MM.

[Dimas]

Sledgehammer
In 1999, a methadone clinic Medinar that was in Moscow,MM very successfully used for relief of withdrawal symptoms when drug-free increases.After class,the patient was much easier to fall asleep,decreased aggression,improved mood.

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Spaibo for the answer. And are there any publications on this subject, also published on the website. Or who are willing to share their own experience on account of the choice sessions and, so to say the device.
Question in short "What exactly to do with it"?

[Андрей Патрушев]

Thanks for the reply. And are there any publications on this subject, also published on the website. Or who are willing to share their own experience on account of the choice sessions and, so to say the device.
Question in short "What exactly to do with it"?

Type in Yandex "Audio visual stimulation" and read up on health...

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Thanks, I honestly didn't even think.
Maybe someone has personal experience of using MM in the described cases, much needed opinions and advice. With such a session to start which ROM to choose, when you can start to work alongside medication or separately, etc., etc.

In 1999 in a drug treatment clinic "Medinar"that was in Moscow,MM very successfully used for relief of withdrawal symptoms when drug-free increases.After class,the patient was much easier to fall asleep,decreased aggression,improved mood.

now, interestingly, they work with MM, but if not, I wonder why?

[Dimas]

Sledgehammer
Unfortunately no,since the center is closed.When Luzhkov built a new building 17-shki,most private rehabilitation centers from Moscow for this case was removed, and state so to speak took the monopoly in this activity.

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The globalists, their mother...
And people who are in the clinic worked disappeared in the crowd?
Sorry....

[Dimas]

Sledgehammer
Well hardly too has not disappeared))),but find most have very difficult unfortunately...a Few days ago, I spoke here with the main "expert" psychological rehabilitation of alcoholics 17th narcological hospital(Moscow)..God,what heresy she was carrying...About all these technologies,which only reveal the neuroses, etc. I asked her,and then at least You have any idea what it is?-she told me"Well, in General terms,truth itself is not seen even in the hands do not want to take,as above, there was no indication,then the unwholesome thing..." Oh crap, I thought,sobriety unfavorable GOS-vu the Russian see...That "hit" particularly violent "Teal" old-fashioned recipe that Ssali and shit straight at yourself vegetables...eh...

[Андрей Патрушев]

Here Vitaly interesting link sent by:
THE USE OF BINAURAL THERAPY FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL CORRECTION OF THE EMOTIONAL-AFFECTIVE DISORDERS
http://www.sciteclibrary.ru:80/rus/cata ... /8089.html

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Dimas
just the effect of jackdaws seen at once, and all the rest.
here I for example ordered a MM and nourish optimistic hope about the prospects of its application and how it will actually be ...
Yes, whether it is three effective, our people to believe anything does not want.
and it is not even about colleagues talking, then they just open-minded and interesting, although with some caution, they say could be dangerous so hard in the brain to invade. (a type of neuroleptics in the brain do not interfere).
the thing is just sick. I personally can't imagine how I'm going to convince my future patients to feel the effects of MM. it's a long time. and we have 3 days acceptsa torpedoes to put on 9 months(to zakodirovatsia a year), after 3 weeks, start drinking and Pingyao doctors, they say money sloop, and didn't do.
somehow pessimistically happened.

Andrei Patrushev

thanks, cool info.

[Dimas]

Sledgehammer
Hmm,I think with these patients the problem is...those who have nepreodolim desire to recover another matter...And these...for the wife to work,but then they know that they will start to thump,so percularity espiral and fine that the body even rested,but the wife of the house is not kicked...I think you can try to tell them that MM will help to develop a buzz in the head,and gradually "applied" not want,but need the type to observe a mode and to go every day.and then nothing...or something like that....Have you not the hospital,as I understand it?Came-in the rear of the torpedo got and left without psychological rehabilitation?

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Dimas
just hospital, is the only branch not drug and obsecenities. addicts and alcoholics are actually in the charge, from 1 to 5 weeks (usually 2-3), i.e., until the money runs out or drink much don't want. we have a therapist there, but for a fee and not for everyone, unfortunately. although after sessions with a therapist, addicts often return. something like that...
by the way. question. and with a day of abstinence, you can start AVS. and when there is the first noticeable positive effect. for example on the second or third session, the client says: Yes! cool!, want more. that would be lovely. they would then have come as an outpatient.

craft your kicks

thought about buzz. a thought on the substitution of dependencies. Yes, I once saw assurances that after a while the stimulation is no longer needed and brains fall into place, but opacious purely psychological dependence. "will I MM no""Yes not bad right now, but with the machine as something better." it is clear that much better with the glasses to sit, but then during that fight...?

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it is clear that much better with the glasses to sit, but then during that fight...?

need to read, it is clear that much better with glasses positition to guzzle vodka or heroin to get high, but then during that fight.

[Dimas]

Sledgehammer
Well,they gave me a day to 3-4...the effect is felt all different...but most the first time was pretty,but there were those who strongly disagreed to wear MM...So,in any case, you need any replacement,at least in the first stage...Very effective for the Minnesota (12-step) model of recovery...That in tandem with her MM I think will give great results.Well, the brain then tells you when to work out when enough is enough...

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thanks for the reply. and what, I'm so cute 12 steps?

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Hello,Sledgehammer. I'm a psychologist, with audio-visual stimulation are six years old. You can share the experience. MM is a great tool for correction of various psychoemotional States. All this time I was working in organizations with healthy people. My clients and I noted a decrease in stress and mental and emotional stress, lower levels of personal and reactive anxiety. Control am using the heart rate variability and analysis of the index voltage Baevsky, as test anxiety Spielberg - Hanina, questionnaire Beck. The results are gorgeous, they inspire me and clients for further work. Clients report significant improvement in family relations, work, own a calm and positive attitude towards themselves and the world, improving the ability to enjoy life, the growth of self-confidence, self-respect and self-understanding, increase overall body energy, increased efficiency in daily activities.
If You have something specific interests, ask, I'll try to answer.

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All this time, I worked in organizations with healthy people.

In-in. Experience shows that if (in a period of relative sanity) to offer IT to the person with the diagnosis "chronic alcoholism, complicated by depressive syndrome" (what someone here wrote - I'm a pretty aggressive enthusiast BW-tech) - fair after weeks of listening sessions the very best of/disc follows the statement "Yes, all this is quackery and generally harmful". Next - people should receive everything that was prescribed (lots and lots of colorful pills at one time with titles that I personally never dreamed of), then-again, or a glass of brandy or beer, then (in 2-3 days) - the person begins to recover in a mental hospital being tied to the bed...
In General, I don't believe in the particular success of MM technology in a region addiction - give God "to be saved" "practically healthy" people.
"Save" - in this context - well, to normalize his life... etc.
But the "real addicts" (SLA Bo - never such close did not see) - and say fear...
Probably for the same reason (directly or indirectly) the "official" professionals avoid usani MM in their practice... Cm. the underlined text. Alas.

[Андрей Патрушев]

All this time, I worked in organizations with healthy people.

In-in. Experience shows that if (in a period of relative sanity) to offer IT to the person with the diagnosis "chronic alcoholism, complicated by depressive syndrome" (what someone here wrote - I'm a pretty aggressive enthusiast BW-tech) - fair after weeks of listening sessions the very best of/disc follows the statement "Yes, all this is quackery and generally harmful". Next - people should receive everything that was prescribed (lots and lots of colorful pills at one time with titles that I personally never dreamed of), then-again, or a glass of brandy or beer, then (in 2-3 days) - the person begins to recover in a mental hospital being tied to the bed...
In General, I don't believe in the particular success of MM technology in a region addiction - give God "to be saved" "practically healthy" people.
"Save" - in this context - well, to normalize his life... etc.
But the "real addicts" (SLA Bo - never such close did not see) - and say fear...
Probably for the same reason (directly or indirectly) the "official" professionals avoid usani MM in their practice... Cm. the underlined text. Alas.

Actually used very successfully. Of course, in the outpatient setting is very difficult, but where the person is in the hospital at least a month, the results are great.

[Dimas]

thanks for the reply. and what, I'm so cute 12 steps?

So to say to test the effectiveness for yourself! And then saw a lot of positive results...this program is socially rehabilitates and helps a person find the path to joy in life, WITHOUT any use what-anyway...IMHO this is the most effective that has ever been created to assist in the recovery of chemically (and not only) dependent.

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Andrei Patrushev
Dimas
Damn, I have no doubt in possibilities!! The trick is that when the process has gone away (and weak my mind this is 99% percent. patients nark. clinics), i.e. when it came to what is called the "disintegration of personality"... Here we have a very competent, experienced, and ACC. expensive person from whom most would require so much effort (and time) that scary to think. Gdezh this take, especially when such (hopeless) patients are dozens, if not hundreds for the final time?
Andrei Patrushev
And You know the coordinates of a specific hospital?

[Андрей Патрушев]

Andrei Patrushev
And You know the coordinates of a specific hospital?

No, it was a couple of letters, but they have not survived, unfortunately. Can someone else write...

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Jim
i.e. when it came to what is called the "disintegration of personality"...


Depersonalization - "divorce hemispheres", the clinic is unlikely to help, rather landing in cxtremely conditions that awaken the instinct of life, interest in it has already passed stage.

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If You have any specific interests, ask, I will try to answer

Interested in and how! quite recently approached by a young man with severe anxiety and depression somatizing. and got a question about the choice session. it is clear that you need to relax, and what exactly? only if the alpha session or something.
very not enough literary sources, manuals some.
and another issue of concern to most psychiatrists, do not show whether epiactivity?
thank you for your attention.

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