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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 20:16
by Андрей Патрушев
Это комплект из проЕгорКа wrote:And you can see the opinion about Mind Explorer(AudioStrobe decoder
[MM#7]), which is a set of software for a computer sitosterolemia points and decoder signal connected to your sound card. The device supports almost all features of devices photosonics (even expensive models), while beneficial to differ the low price and the wide possibilities of programming signal.
Yes, somewhere in here we about it already spoke. Indeed, the forum from information already "a mess"... :?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:31
by Лори-Мори
Absolutely break, and not only him. :lol: Sometimes, I want to find something, and I remember exactly where I saw (and I whole forum read before you decide to buy such an expensive toy). But how to find? Search won't work, because seldom remember some quote. And ask say: "Already, search the forum". And, most importantly, right. Wild mess. :roll:

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 15:16
by Анна
After consultation with Andrew, I have already ordered the machine, need to bring, but dug out the option Mind's Eye from Dash Ventures Sacto about him? :roll:

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 16:30
by Андрей Патрушев
Анна wrote:After consultation with Andrew, I have already ordered the machine, need to bring, but dug out the option Mind's Eye from Dash Ventures Sacto about him? :roll:
Slightly worse than Innerpulse, but is it worth $ 400 (it is possible and for 300 to find, if you dig). And the fact that You dug, do 1100 bucks :roll: speculators some...
I wrote and I repeat: "All of machine almost the same, except that you have not yet..."

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 16:42
by Анна
Андрей Патрушев wrote:Innerpulse a Little worse, but is it worth $ 400 (it is possible and for 300 to find, if you dig). And the fact that You dug, do 1100 bucks speculators some...
I wrote and I repeat: "All of machine almost the same, except that you have not yet..."
Oh, Yes, I too thought about it. Thank you.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 20:15
by Волд1957
Андрей Патрушев wrote:I wrote and I repeat: "All of machine almost the same, except that you have not yet..."
Headphones that have range 20 - 20000Hz, are different. Some $10-20 another $100-200. Different distortion, that is purity of sound.
May be MM is also still something different? There are Chinese options, which on the German market can be bought for 40 euros. It is doubtful that they would give the same quality as for example DAVID and Photosonix.
I do not like to argue and not to argue wrote. Would just like to get more razvernutye the answer to for yourself to understand.
Vague answers give rise to further questions.
And there's nothing wrong az

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 20:38
by Андрей Патрушев
Волд1957 wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:I wrote and I repeat: "All of machine almost the same, except that you have not yet..."
Headphones that have range 20 - 20000Hz, are different. Some $10-20 another $100-200. Different distortion, that is purity of sound.
May be MM is also still something different? There are Chinese options, which on the German market can be bought for 40 euros. It is doubtful that they would give the same quality as for example DAVID and Photosonix.
I do not like to argue and not to argue wrote. Would just like to get more razvernutye the answer to for yourself to understand.
Vague answers give rise to further questions.
And there's nothing wrong az
By and large, IMHO, in effect they are all equal with very small variations. The sound quality here, perhaps, the only "experts" can somehow affect. Others think that it should be - and perfectly relaxed... :) Currently only the Nova Pro 100 has a more or less good sound... Effect mindmachine primarily IMHO due to light. But here the variation is even smaller and they all belong to the entertainment component. The only exception is MindSpa (made in China) using a lateral arrangement of led lights that make this device somewhat more effective than others... But again, it can only to see "specialists" who took a lot of options...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 22:36
by Волд1957
Andrew, thanks for the quick reply.

The last thing I interesuet it entertaining component.
And quality light and sound effects as I care about producing a certain effect.

If you buy MM only for relaxation, then I would not buy it even if it cost 10 times cheaper. And certainly for entertainment.

It is in the light exposure and not in the light of the beauty of visual images and the pleasantness of the sound I'm interested in the difference in MM.

Your answer to some extent has been illuminating.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 14:53
by Волд1957
OK. Persuaded.
I will not provoke comparison MM from different manufacturers.

The question remains:
The beauty of visual images and pleasantness of the sound had something to do with the extent of the impact?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 15:14
by Андрей Патрушев
Волд1957 wrote:OK. Persuaded.
I will not provoke comparison MM from different manufacturers.

The question remains:
The beauty of visual images and pleasantness of the sound had something to do with the extent of the impact?
In some ways it has. After all, if nice and interesting to do, then you're more likely to do it regularly...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 15:52
by Волд1957
Андрей Патрушев wrote:In some ways it has. After all, if nice and interesting to do, then you're more likely to do it regularly...
That is the beauty of visual images and pleasantness of the sound evokes pleasant feelings and a desire to continue to engage in, and other relationships to the degree of influence have not.
Am I correct in fashin?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 16:03
by Guest
Right. :)

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 15:52
by Воффка
Andrei Patrushev
Hello!
Андрей Патрушев wrote:
Волд1957 wrote:And another question on the device mit DAVID PAL36 CES.
CES - Cranio Electro Stimulation.
What possibilities does it open? What gives?
Share your thoughts and experiences in the use of CES, if any.
CES on the Russian TES (transcranial electric stimulation) more tightly controls the brain. Figuratively, if L&S offers a haunting, "and do not want to try this?", CES then gently takes his hand and softly leads...
Photosonix now update the old range of models and prepare new. It is possible that there will be such a combination...
It's been four years. Photosonix released Navigator, but it is not implemented the function of TPP. We can assume that she did not need him due to the use of other technologies allows to operate with the same efficiency. But then came the doubt, especially given the use of the Navigator in conjunction with ALTARIA that in some way casts doubt on the sufficiency of his work without TPP.
I don't accidentally write a message in this thread and then the topic will affect mit DAVID PAL36 CES. Of course the use of the complex Navigator+alfaria me it seems to be prevailed by the effectiveness of David in terms of working with alpha conditions. But there are only alphaRiya and butaforii, teatree, delcavoli no :?

Now the actual questions:
Since You are saying that all MM are about the same, then I take the effectiveness of the Navigator, and David for approximately equal and therefore there are differences only in the presence of TPP, correct if wrong.
1. So whether you need an ordinary user TES?
2. Valid-whether the approximately percentage to Express how much the effectiveness of electricity production rises, so often justified this increase?<

Re: Mindmachine from different manufacturers. What to stay

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 16:15
by Андрей Патрушев
Voffka
And for which task efficiency is something?
Light and sound are absolutely safe, and TES requires mandatory medical certification. We may release once the Navigator Pro with TES...
Who considered these percent :? The man's not a machine... :?

Re: Mindmachine from different manufacturers. What to stay

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 18:16
by Воффка
Андрей Патрушев wrote:And for which task effectiveness is that?
For common tasks - relaxation, concentration, meditation, etc.. To switch the brain into alpha, beta, theta, etc. States.

Re: Mindmachine from different manufacturers. What to stay

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 18:18
by Андрей Патрушев
Voffka
For common tasks of svatopluka for the eyes :) enough...

Re: Mindmachine from different manufacturers. What to stay

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 18:33
by Воффка
Thank you! Clear full :)

Re: Mindmachine from different manufacturers. What to stay

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 23:27
by Димитриус
Dear staff mindmachine, is planned in the near future, the upgrade of mind machines? Isn't it time to expand the range, adding the line Davidov (DAVID PAL36 CES mit), still 4 years have passed since the last post. No offense to the wonderful team mindmachine, don't you think that you are a little toward the left from the initial ideas, selling mindmachine in the field of techno magic. In addition to the remarkable Navigator, other products Photosonic obsolete. Of course it is quite clear that at this point in time, you are the absolute leader in sales Mindmachine in Russia, but do not you think that in the coming years the initiative can intercept competitors by presenting more interesting models, which currently exist, but have not yet made it to our market (case time). This message is asked to regarded as negative, but as indifferent to your product and team loyalty customer.

Re: Mindmachine from different manufacturers. What to stay

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 23:40
by Андрей Кабанков
Dimitriusin the coming years, I think the population of Russia will azabache order to find money for food, not to purchase mind machines.

Re: Mindmachine from different manufacturers. What to stay

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:26
by Экко
Андрей Кабанков wrote:Dimitriusin the coming years, I think the population of Russia will azabache order to find money for food, not to purchase mind machines.
Already the dollar is falling so the rules will be

Re: Mindmachine from different manufacturers. What to stay

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:12
by Андрей Патрушев
ECCO
This is a tactical ploy. Summer bucks somewhere to 120R. will catch up and will fall back to about 95r. and we'll leave it for a long time. I wonder whether Sberbank reins USA buying cheap dollar is not beneficial to them...