First impressions

Галина · Post by **Галина** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:40

Dimas, thank you !

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 17:25

Not in that!:)

Pavel · Post by **Pavel** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 15:19

Got a mind-Spa yesterday got it in the mail.
1. Small, light, comfortable, nice vmeshaetsya in one hand, even the user should not, by definition "what's the button that means" - that would be such a girl for me.

2. Since I now listen to CDs Patrushev relaxation, then decided to try from a session on stimulation of Nr. 9. Pleasantly surprised - I like tonic current with a slight tension filled the chest fully. Health has risen.
3. However the batteries I pumped, I got only charging for AA format, and in a mind-Spa is a AAA format.
4. And of course the conclusion is simple: if it is difficult to decide where to begin, it is best to start with a mind-Spa.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 16:06

Pavel wrote:got a mind-Spa yesterday got it in the mail.
1. Small, light, comfortable, nice vmeshaetsya in one hand, even the user should not, by definition "what's the button that means" - that would be such a girl for me.
2. Since I now listen to CDs Patrushev relaxation, then decided to try from a session on stimulation of Nr. 9. Pleasantly surprised - I like tonic current with a slight tension filled the chest fully. Health has risen.
3. However the batteries I pumped, I got only charging for AA format, and in a mind-Spa is a AAA format.
4. And of course the conclusion is simple: if it is difficult to decide where to begin, it is best to start with a mind-Spa.

Despite the fact that You, apparently, should turn out reliable, the alpha state, be careful, please, with sessions on stimulation. Try more than 1 time in three days to start.

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 21:46

Pavel wrote:>maybe that's why she "sees" and I'm not

and you try to start theta meditation Visualization for 21 days. :idea:

Paul or demAs, explain please what visualization is about - S6 ?

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 22:25

And at the same time describe their experiences.
Machine innerpulse my second day.
You know

enjoying the game, but on the instructions on the forum - listen to every 3 hours.
And do not the kaleidoscope of different sessions.
Now systematically work with alpha by Patrushev.
Relax haven't tried, but I think there will be no problems, I have mastered auditory training.

Come mate - well, I gave him the SAUCE, gently told about what can be prepared so to speak (in a good way). So he Mindspin session for 4 minutes did not survive (they said that was seasick). Went to victorianism square eyes - here thing !!! today again we ask

Now my impressions.
Captures better than brainwave.
I would characterize the impact of innerpulse - stronger than BWG.

I think the main task is to relax.
Then dive into the program, there is state involvement and affiliation.
If watching the process of flashing and I think it will be, engagement happens.
Although I am quite calm in the first and in the second case : because sound and light are working, so that the brain trains itself there as it should be. The mere fact that hearing binaural beats - proof.

I noticed an interesting effect that sometimes - well, only a couple of times on there, what that moment patterns, flickering in the overall picture, it becomes what is near and palpable and clear.
And then there is the feeling that there was something there that you need to jump over this barrier and open something. But how to jump over the barrier I don't know, and the state very quickly.

I wonder what it is ? who knows ?

Сперанца · Post by **Сперанца** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 22:57

And I want to share.
Bought mindmachine this morning.
Wanted to take the points of Indigo, but the multi-colored flashing I did not get headache, even a little sick. Took white.
Was very surprised when I was given the store to listen to some disc with white points, and color I saw red

Miracles.
Because I don't want to hurt himself, then decided not to force. Was listening on the lowest volume and minimalnym light.
Listened to it twice today:) r5, then r4.
r5 seemed so long, while it was strange with the color, I had a feeling that the white light is stronger on the left eye than on the right. Shot glasses - glow in the same way. By the end of the session, the color evened out.
When the evening was listening to r4 the color was on both eyes even.

The feelings during the session - it was impossible to move, so I didn'T WANT to move, didn't even want to swallow. The condition was the border between dream and reality

BUT hurt the eyes, that is strained. What to do?
The sensations after - ease, eyes like steel more feeling

How do you plan to listen.
The first week only the r session. Morning and evening, gradually increasing the time up to 40-50 minutes.
Then will start the Healing in the morning and the r session in the evening.
I'm going the right way?

Pavel · Post by **Pavel** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 0:06

Александр12345 wrote:Paul or demAs, explain please what visualization is about - S6 ?

http://www.mindmachine.ru/audio/teta_meditation.htm

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:40

Pavel wrote:
Александр12345 wrote:Paul or demAs, explain please what visualization is about - S6 ?
http://www.mindmachine.ru/audio/teta_meditation.htm

Thank you so much !

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:55

There is another issue to local bison from MM.
But when I include the session where it is necessary to direct eyes to the impact points was the most effective ?
Should they be focusing ?
Or they need to relax, as if looking into the distance ?
Or to reduce them ?
Clearly I'm all about the closed eyes.

And still : whether it is necessary to concentrate on the flickering figures to try to consider them ? (I'm asking for alpha training)

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 17:37

Александр_ wrote:There is another issue to local bison from MM.
But when I include the session where it is necessary to direct eyes to the impact points was the most effective ?
Should they be focusing ?
Or they need to relax, as if looking into the distance ?
Or to reduce them ?
Clearly I'm all about the closed eyes.

And still : whether it is necessary to concentrate on the flickering figures to try to consider them ? (I'm asking for alpha training)

Definitely want to try pasakumu, but when everyone is tired, You will automatically do as it should...

ШДен · Post by **ШДен** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:46

Welcome join the circle Mind-machinists

Interestingly, when in Russia, the number of MM will be over a Million

:

Сперанца · Post by **Сперанца** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:53

Oh.. and I am so no one answered.

Sden

I Wonder when

But I've been wondering how much. More precisely, what is the average age using mindmachine?

Сперанца · Post by **Сперанца** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:58

And I wonder why no advertising. Why not introduce the car to the masses.
Precisely why is it very few people know.
About all sorts of massagers, baths for legs, darsanas know, but on MM I do not know.
It is wrong.

Yes, I might think, but yesterday I watched the movie about love and caught myself thinking that I'm not just watching it, and analyze. I certainly understand that is unlikely to so quickly began to affect the session, but I would really like to develop the creative ability in themselves, as logical I have everything in order.

ШДен · Post by **ШДен** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:20

Сперанца wrote: was Listening on the lowest volume and minimalnym light.

The feelings during the session - it was impossible to move, so I didn'T WANT to move, didn't even want to swallow. The condition was the border between dream and reality BUT hurt the eyes, that is strained. What to do?
The sensations after - ease, eyes like steel more feeling

How do you plan to listen.
The first week only the r session. Morning and evening, gradually increasing the time up to 40-50 minutes.
Then will start the Healing in the morning and the r session in the evening.
I'm going the right way?

I think the brightness should be even smaller to do :idea:
And about plans properly, but in addition to sessions r you can still i-02 on innerpulse - this session is different every time so her brain is not accustomed
And about the r-sessions in the morning if You are working, choose careful (to return to our sinful earth)

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:43

Сперанца wrote:And I wonder why no advertising. Why not introduce the car to the masses.
Precisely why is it very few people know.
About all sorts of massagers, baths for legs, darsanas know, but on MM I do not know.
It is wrong.
First, mass advertising requires a massive infusion of funds... and secondly, just ended finally certification mindmachine in the Ministry of health...
Third, "everyone complains about his memory, but nobody complains of his mind"... Mindmachine, IMHO, very few people need in a modern society, and those who need, be sure to find us...

Yes, I might think, but yesterday I watched the movie about love and caught myself thinking that I'm not just watching it, and analyze. I certainly understand that is unlikely to so quickly began to affect the session, but I would really like to develop the creative ability in themselves, as logical I have everything in order.

The analysis usually relates to logic?

Сперанца · Post by **Сперанца** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:05

Andrei Patrushev

the Analysis is usually referred to logic?

Of course.
I meant that I analyze is not in Finance, Economics, etc. And in the sphere of human feelings, experiences, etc.
That is, I think of myself as not very emotional, I miss that.
Often at showdown

hear in his address " You don't understand me!!!". Maybe some kind of hardness of heart. Or a little emphasis on that.
You know?

Сперанца · Post by **Сперанца** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:09

Sden

to return to our sinful earth

well, Yes:)
morning : R01, R04,R05, R06
evening: R02,R03,R07

Where else will add I02

Wednesday Healing will begin in the morning, every day ???, 21 days.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:20

Сперанца wrote:Sden

to return to our sinful earth
well, Yes:)
morning : R01, R04,R05, R06
evening: R02,R03,R07

Where else will add I02

Wednesday Healing will begin in the morning, every day ???, 21 days.

Healing, IMHO, better at night before going to bed to listen...

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:27

Сперанца wrote:Andrei Patrushev
the Analysis is usually referred to logic?
Of course.
I meant that I analyze is not in Finance, Economics, etc. And in the sphere of human feelings, experiences, etc.
That is, I think of myself as not very emotional, I miss that.
Often at showdown hear in his address " You don't understand me!!!". Maybe some kind of hardness of heart. Or a little emphasis on that.
You know?

Yeah, you know...
Maybe it's self-defense (answer to yourself)? If so, relax and think: when was the first time You learned to believe in the belief that feelings of threat (again only me).

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:40

Сперанца wrote: Often at showdown hear in his address " You don't understand me!!!". Maybe some kind of hardness of heart. Or a little emphasis on that.
You know?

I will put my "5 cents"

my brief experience of lucid commercial negotiations ( with 2000go year) shows what is said so often.. especially when the intellectual level of your opponent exhausts the options of synonyms for their ideas, with no attempt to fit the interests of the partner.. or in the case when both parties do not intend to consider common interests.
It can be as manipulative ( You indirectly called callous hoping that You sustainement their "imposed" their words callousness and show "Forbearance").. and the second option - just don't see the fact that You can hear them/understand

Helped me a lot (to start) the book Williami Yuri "Beyond No". after some time working with this book Steneto more clear whether You are trying to manipulate.. then You really don't give partner a signal that You understand it.. (or don't want what You offer)

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:22

Александр_ wrote:And at the same time describe their experiences.
Machine innerpulse my second day.
You know enjoying the game, but on the instructions on the forum - listen to every 3 hours.
And do not the kaleidoscope of different sessions.
Now systematically work with alpha by Patrushev.
Relax haven't tried, but I think there will be no problems, I have mastered auditory training.

Come mate - well, I gave him the SAUCE, gently told about what can be prepared so to speak (in a good way). So he Mindspin session for 4 minutes did not survive (they said that was seasick). Went to victorianism square eyes - here thing !!! today again we ask

Now my impressions.
Captures better than brainwave.
I would characterize the impact of innerpulse - stronger than BWG.

I think the main task is to relax.
Then dive into the program, there is state involvement and affiliation.
If watching the process of flashing and I think it will be, engagement happens.
Although I am quite calm in the first and in the second case : because sound and light are working, so that the brain trains itself there as it should be. The mere fact that hearing binaural beats - proof.

I noticed an interesting effect that sometimes - well, only a couple of times on there, what that moment patterns, flickering in the overall picture, it becomes what is near and palpable and clear.
And then there is the feeling that there was something there that you need to jump over this barrier and open something. But how to jump over the barrier I don't know, and the state very quickly.

I wonder what it is ? who knows ?

Try to ignore the feelings by focusing,for example on the breath...This is a way to jump over the "barrier"of the Current...be careful...

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:27

Александр_ wrote:There is another issue to local bison from MM.
But when I include the session where it is necessary to direct eyes to the impact points was the most effective ?
Should they be focusing ?
Or they need to relax, as if looking into the distance ?
Or to reduce them ?
Clearly I'm all about the closed eyes.

And still : whether it is necessary to concentrate on the flickering figures to try to consider them ? (I'm asking for alpha training)

It is necessary to relax the entire body including the eyes...Look where You are most comfortable with so as not to cause unnecessary stress..I Can during the session to twist glazami,but it is for entertainment more,in order to see a variety of pictures

Post by **Malvina** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:34

BUT hurt the eyes, that is strained

I the first three or four times felt eye fatigue. Then it would go away by itself.

Post by **Malvina** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:37

the State was the border between dream and reality

So I prefer to listen to the session, except for training and energy right before sleeping. I then sleep, but it individually.