The first experience

[Псих]

Errors unfortunately can not remember, long read, but if you really feel it may want to read again the half that was overcome and lead them here publicly

words about the Holy spirit and the Creator, I mean that I have to believe that we have someone specific created and there is a Holy spirit (what is this?)) I.e. this notion is characteristic for Christianity, Islam (they just do not have nastroenia God the father, the son, and the Holy spirit) of Judaism, and partly for some of the beliefs of the Hindus (Atman, anatman, etc. themes).
Well, as it would, in principle, all meditation is focused on what you yourself mend and improve. With such a beginning could not continue meditation, and prayer;)

I apologize if I offended the religious feelings of anyone, but uzhzh I speak as I think.

[Dimas]

Error unfortunately can not remember, long read, but if you really feel it may want to read again the half that was overcome and lead them here publicly

words about the Holy spirit and the Creator, I mean that I have to believe that we have someone specific created and there is a Holy spirit (what is this?)) I.e. this notion is characteristic for Christianity, Islam (they just do not have nastroenia God the father, the son, and the Holy spirit) of Judaism, and partly for some of the beliefs of the Hindus (Atman, anatman, etc. themes).
Well, as it would, in principle, all meditation is focused on what you yourself mend and improve. With such a beginning could not continue meditation, and prayer;)

I apologize if I offended the religious feelings of anyone, but uzhzh I speak as I think.

Download the film "Scientists of God" from cycle gear a boomerang,if you can't,can give you a DVD to watch...Maybe your opinion will change...And so many people,so many points of view...

[Андрей Патрушев]

However today I outplayed a bit. Somewhere in the 12 e01 listened to then was minding my own business, I straight perlo))) and was a very significant shift in the work. And then rested for a while, just lying on the bed, talking, loitering. And then I decided to listen to e02. Well, listen-listen, pumped with energy and suddenly like a punch pillow for the head, the session has decided to hear all the same. In short the rest of the day went dumb as a stump))) did not want to Think, did not want to work and not work, and even a little hurts the head. But the truth is physical energy was in abundance that is interesting. In General, the way to seven in the evening. Then I remembered that the Explorer it is time to listen. After the conductor became easier, and now all head stopped hurting.

So You know what the spilled brake.
Generally sessions to recharge the energy necessary to deal carefully. I'd recommend no more often than every three days. Otherwise, it is still possible that thing to catch as increased anxiety - very exhausting...

[Андрей Патрушев]

words about the Holy spirit and the Creator, I mean that I have to believe that we have someone specific created and there is a Holy spirit (what is this?)) I.e. this notion is characteristic for Christianity, Islam (they just do not have nastroenia God the father, the son, and the Holy spirit) of Judaism, and partly for some of the beliefs of the Hindus (Atman, anatman, etc. themes).
Well, as it would, in principle, all meditation is focused on what you yourself mend and improve. With such a beginning could not continue meditation, and prayer;)

I apologize if I offended the religious feelings of anyone, but uzhzh I speak as I think.

Well, believer and unbeliever, are one and the same. Because logically the existence of God can neither be proved nor disproved, and those, and others simply believe, with some, that God exists, others that He was missing.
From my point of view, it is pointless to discuss what it really is. Some meaning, IMHO, comes when you begin to understand - it gives you or what limits you. Whatever "it" may be...

[Карил]

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Dimas about Bentley no comments... of Nascet theta Delta probably Yes, but lacks some drops to a full understanding. About alpha will make the notch on the chair. You seem to have climbed out of a deep well... uh... depression when he was able to cure traumatic brain injury.

Crazy, but no statistics how many times went to pray, and it was not raining? Me about the Creator is also confusing, but the emotions are warm, such is the ambiguity.

Pavel I'm starting to develop the scheme in the morning, "Explorer", before the hour of the day 1 energize, after 1 hour long session of relaxation, after 18.00 again Explore. It turns out the pendulum relaxed-overclocked-relaxed-relaxed. Water early not like today, though, drank a pint after "Explorer".

Andrew, I think it's as spilled brake is familiar to all artists, writers and other creative types... And today I did, lie listen to "Conductor" suddenly disappeared the space, the muscles are too tense (not cramping, just shrunk), on his forehead went cold and the solar plexus is already warm. Uh... good or bad.

[Карил]

About cigarettes and alcohol are all clear. And about coffee, tea and especially green tea, who knows? In green like caffeine more than coffee...

But if after the "Conductor" to drink warm green tea or water is better?

[Псих]

Well, believer and unbeliever, are one and the same. Because logically the existence of God can neither be proved nor disproved, and those, and others simply believe, with some, that God exists, others that He was missing.
From my point of view, it is pointless to discuss what it really is. Some meaning, IMHO, comes when you begin to understand - it gives you or what limits you. Whatever "it" may be...

I totally agree, which is why I neither believe nor do not believe, because it is a pointless exercise), and Therefore was confused by such a unilateral start, while on the other side of the disc Conductor is not personal, and mass product, and the majority of fellow followers of the Orthodox faith. Apparently I was just unlucky)

[Псих]

Crazy, but no statistics how many times went to pray, and it was not raining?

Unfortunately Wilson ignores this point in his book;)
But I suspect that often prayed and it had no effect. But healers are not at all fails to work, and the WTO is not with 100% stability are able to do;)
There's just the fact that funny, was perimolysis on you)

[Андрей Патрушев]

Andrew, I think it's as spilled brake is familiar to all artists, writers and other creative types... And today I did, lie listen to "Conductor" suddenly disappeared the space, the muscles are too tense (not cramping, just shrunk), on his forehead went cold and the solar plexus is already warm. Uh... good or bad.

That's neither good nor bad, it just is. In trance we all have different sensations. You just have to trust yourself...
At norbekova, for example, there is training on the evocation of feelings: heat, cold, tingling (like the foot did).

[Словентий]

So, good morning. Time 4:30, sleep until you can. May 31 got the car and drives Andrei Patrushev. On the first day listened to the session 20 minutes of r... Not impressed. But I was ready for it, because the forum is read. I think I'll batter, like demAs. Anyway, to write a bitter-funny article as monk (about Ohhhh) I is unlikely to succeed.
About the video.
I was somewhat surprised that if you do not hold attention to the eyes, the light actually stop to notice. Images-visions yet.
About the sound. :twisted:
The first Association I in the engine compartment, but the motor (or motors) are working smoothly, like clockwork. That's good.
Realized: relaxation still has not learned, only to fall asleep and showed it in the car. She was not offended.
The fourth day quietly listening to the alpha session, and even Now... It started on 1 June. The first two days I lay in bed,
listened for a little while, then fell asleep. I don't remember exactly where, but before raznoglasiya headphones get already sleeping. Showered in silence, removed the headphones, I noted that so far no nightmares, and fall asleep on.
Today was not so. Maybe because yesterday slept okay, maybe session work, but the disc I listened to, occasionally falling into "prosonok". While he did so, to lie flat it was hard, it was prejudioe state (about itching-tickling on the inside a wrote and I've experienced it). Listening, like asleep. And I dream that twists and flexes something. Terribly frustrating and even scary. Damn, I think in the dream, Patrushev provoked the expulsion of the devil . I realize that I have problems, but that such And I start the demon to speak, say Begone, creature. And he's choking me (I'm in the pillow, it seems, is buried.) Trying to be baptized in the dream (though not baptized). Then for some reason I remembered the father paisija (modern Greek monk, I read about it months ago.) Well, shout in my sleep :"medical help". Was able to get up and walk down the hall, staggering. (This is still a dream). Go, then, and the idea: most importantly, in the mirror not to look, and you'll see your crazy eyes and shines on a residence in the yellow house. Just woke up. Like the led in sleep quiet. (But nobody's home and there are no witnesses.) He caught his breath. While hot water is not turned off, got the water in the tub. Lay, now write. Sleep in either eye. Soon the job . I'll put on the carotid session I'll try. And again, perhaps the best Guide you can listen to sleep early, as advised. :!:
A big thank you to everyone who writes on the forum, your experience is inspiring. And my?

[Dimas]

Slovenly,Your experience is IMPRESSIVE!!!Long thought to write or not,but Oh well...my bride was here that after listening to i2 (30 min,once)...And the Explorer he was listening to the 2nd course for a day on the 12th..So,Wake up, said the night of besprincipnogo fear,the shakes...sit on the edge of the bed and me chelovecheski silhouette of dark haze (fog)..AND IT says - "you shouldn't have done,you me woke up!..."...and disappeared.I said,still can not understand whether it was a dream or not...I asked her and first thought what,what did you do..?She says the type of listen to the machine...and Diehl says it was not SOMETHING alien,and some of their own,as it were an integral part of it,just hidden...That's it.

[Pavel]

Slovenia, DemAs.

"The only thing necessary in life to fear is your own fear"

[Словентий]

DemAs, Paul! Thanks for the replies.
What Dilya? Continued to listen to? How to have a stable relationship? :

[Dimas]

Listened to the end of "the Guide" (2nd course), i2 listened 2 times...was not listening until,like he says everything is fine,only dreams are very changed...I never cease to be surprised and my dreams too..before some of the same type was now,well...!!!!and THIS dream...Here this morning,stuck in pre-war Moscow (I had a feeling of what year the 30th) in the old tram to the population with the question - "If you travel into the future and to change (to make things:)) there will be any changes in REAL person???!And the whole tram was seriously discussed this problem!;)In both...

[Словентий]

Damn it! I was on that tram!!!

(joke)
And thank you all, I'll listen further.

[Марина Ник]

Hi all. I read the forum for a long time, so decided to join. Interesting to read about the experience of others. I want to share my impressions from listening to the Conductor. Listened to 10 times. Sharp and significant changes do not see, of course, and it's still early to talk about the changes. Slovenly wrote that falls asleep at the first
auditions. At me too such was. The first 2-3 times I fell asleep. Listened to whether in the morning or in the evening (even at night) , at the beginning of the audition fell asleep, and that's it. Then he began to try not to fall asleep,trying to listen only when rested, alert condition. It turned out better(i.e. not sleep) at all, but periodic lapses into sleep were still. At first it bothered me. I wanted to listen to, without any zasypany and wakings. Around 4-5 time like happened to hold the attention, not falling asleep.
Even while listening , at some point, I'm beginning to itch your nose, cheeks, chin, always somehow in most of these places. I've read many too, it happens. Very distracting, you have to move. If you try to stand still distracts from a relaxed state still getting. How anyone that went, can someone answer?
I while listening Conductor can hear ( except the voice of A. Patrushev) the music, the bells, the murmur of water. But lately, I seem to hear some sounds. Look at that word, quickly said in a low whisper. Does anybody else hear that? Or is it meant to be?
Yes, and the voltage (pressure) in the forehead too. Good or bad? I'm trying this pressure to get rid of, to relax somehow, have you? Or Vice versa, to strengthen, as someone has written, then the voice of Andrew is lost, and in the body, on the contrary, things start to change - stretching, bending, etc. I would be grateful if anyone will answer.

[Dimas]

hi all. I read the forum for a long time, so decided to join. Interesting to read about the experience of others. I want to share my impressions from listening to the Conductor. Listened to 10 times. Sharp and significant changes do not see, of course, and it's still early to talk about the changes. Slovenly wrote that falls asleep at the first
auditions. At me too such was. The first 2-3 times I fell asleep. Listened to whether in the morning or in the evening (even at night) , at the beginning of the audition fell asleep, and that's it. Then he began to try not to fall asleep,trying to listen only when rested, alert condition. It turned out better(i.e. not sleep) at all, but periodic lapses into sleep were still. At first it bothered me. I wanted to listen to, without any zasypany and wakings. Around 4-5 time like happened to hold the attention, not falling asleep.
Even while listening , at some point, I'm beginning to itch your nose, cheeks, chin, always somehow in most of these places. I've read many too, it happens. Very distracting, you have to move. If you try to stand still distracts from a relaxed state still getting. How anyone that went, can someone answer?
I while listening Conductor can hear ( except the voice of A. Patrushev) the music, the bells, the murmur of water. But lately, I seem to hear some sounds. Look at that word, quickly said in a low whisper. Does anybody else hear that? Or is it meant to be?
Yes, and the voltage (pressure) in the forehead too. Good or bad? I'm trying this pressure to get rid of, to relax somehow, have you? Or Vice versa, to strengthen, as someone has written, then the voice of Andrew is lost, and in the body, on the contrary, things start to change - stretching, bending, etc. I would be grateful if anyone will answer.

Marina Nick,I ALWAYS sleep under the "Explorer",Andrew says that this is normal,the brain still perceives absolutely everything!!!The fact that You hear "strange" sounds,voice is also absolutely fine..then You enter at the right...as I wrote somewhere that somebody with me razgovarivaet different voices-snatches of conversation (with meaning and without it),calls me by name, even swearing...Sometimes (often) hear the sound of a waterfall...There is an Indian meditation upon the inner sound (Nada-meditation),so there are all these audio "illusions" arise constantly,that is the criterion of entering into the desired state...I Have a hunch that the subconscious mind (call it what you want) generates some of the message symbols that are perceived through the auditory center. Something similar happens in dreams and deep meditation (only involved all,or nearly all channels of perception).About itching on the forum were written quite a lot and is also absolutely a normal phenomenon,how to judge the experience of their own and adopted...
Yes,the itching goes away,but if rather just cease to divert the attention and not annoying.

[Марина Ник]

Thank you Dimas for the detailed answer.

[Dimas]

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[Словентий]

Yesterday gave listen-look mom "Healing on the magic river." She listened to half an hour, then she had to stop. Said could easily listen to it again, I had vivid pictures.
And today, she asked me to put the disk and give the points. . Said that was very unusual dreams. I'm glad she liked it.

[Александр_]

Guys, how is this thread different from the first experience 2 ?
And then I look and there is a discussion here. Both the living and the like of the one.
And another found - first impressions.
Can merge all into one ?

[ЗулКрис]

And I have a proposal to make a separate branch "blogs"

[Guest]

Well, finally I too joined the ranks of happy owners of MM... But the adjustment period is very interesting. First after testing points true white (like the one about beer) to me on the way back in all the way is not the feeling that something is not as if the changed visual perception, it somehow became very clear, and that I at the time thought it strange that a visual isometry ,so to speak, it was all kind of bulk chtoli... Is it someone else?
Secondly, I noticed a change in behavior, in particular response in different situations...
Maybe it can be linked with a certain period of adaptation ?

[Александр_]

sometimes the changes of the perception of color, but after a few minutes goes by.

[Князевский]

Well, finally I too joined the ranks of happy owners of MM... But the adjustment period is very interesting. First after testing points true white (like the one about beer) to me on the way back in all the way is not the feeling that something is not as if the changed visual perception, it somehow became very clear, and that I at the time thought it strange that a visual isometry ,so to speak, it was all kind of bulk chtoli... Is it someone else?
Secondly, I noticed a change in behavior, in particular response in different situations...
Maybe it can be linked with a certain period of adaptation ?

be patient not much else, and begins to walk at night, and if you walk a lot, and swim will begin, and it (postremo ) a good sign of successful adaptation to the device. After that you will be able to develop not only your physical capabilities...