The first experience

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Sun May 06, 2007 14:40

Can I also Council fit?

By the way this question was better in a separate topic to do well, like "the First experience - 3".

I also bought a toy just two days ago and the experience I have is not so much, but still something I can say.

Despite the right advice to set brightness and volume to a minimum I have is all the way to and discomfort I do not test. Although mainly engaged in the day light, and the computers humming...

The first level for us dummies to call the base simple state, as I understand it further, people almost plunges into the past and sees and feels.

One of these simple States of relaxation (r - relaxation). The meaning of the sessions to genially relaxed state, when too lazy to move and just want to lie down and enjoy. The idea is the same way we do on the beach under the hot sun or after hard physical work. For example, run or push-UPS, sit on the bench, better yet, lie down on the mats and relax all the muscles. Almost immediately comes the heat in the muscles and too lazy to move.

Yes, one more thing, the breath to slow down. I like to relax after the fifth session there was a feeling that I just do not breathing). It is of course only a feeling, in fact I was breathing, but he did a very long pause, and slowly inhaled-exhaled. And breathing slowed down itself without any effort on my part.

It is on a physical level and at mental peace and silence in my head no thoughts. While you're not sleeping, but on the other side and don't watch. You can be almost cheerful, a little sleepy and very much on the verge of falling asleep, but conscious.

Another good example of a fire. Sitting here, staring at the flames, listening to the crackle and feel the heat. At this point, the world receding, vanish all thoughts about work, about study...

Mind machine his humming and blinking and trying to cause this effect of a campfire or the beach. It can how to help, trying to relax, and Vice versa in the way. How can you relax if you think about the business or let's say the upcoming exams? Need while listening to the mind-machine to try to forget about everything.

This is with regards to relaxation, Energize now. I have only listened to the fourth session, but the effect is quite noticeable. First you need to be more or less fresh, cheerful and active. If you listen to this session in the middle of the night I don't think that will be a good result. On the forum there's some spilled brake scare.

Listening session trying not to think, but not to relax but rather to focus on the sounds, can still be a little faster to start breathing. Just not to breathe like a cunt,

just a little faster and all.

Occlusal session, although I am a little (lasts 5 minutes) I immediately another charge. So occlusal need to do something active. Not necessarily physical work, you can go for a walk or play some Unreal Tournament, or find some occupation demanding activity. Viewing soap series active call... Reading in General is also not to say that active. But if you write something, for example the accordion on the forum, that is another matter)))

The principle is so clear that the disposition changed the rate of reactions increased, thoughts became clearer and cleaner. Focus better and the answers to internal questions appear faster.

Now I do not believe that the state of relaxation or on the contrary increased vigor call will fail. After all, if you call and say something quickly saturator into the phone you're on and adapt to the rhythm of the conversation instantly. Of course if hungover or sleep-deprived it will slow down and there really is no mind-machine will not help and will only make it worse.

So the results can be obtained almost immediately after the first session and no patience to stock is not necessary. Really need to listen to yourself, try to relax or Vice versa to cheer up. The result will be accordingly efforts.

And the patience needed to realise the advanced state. Unfortunately I do nothing about them I can not say. Lucid dreaming (OS) I can understand, but the out-of-body it's really quite a mystery.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun May 06, 2007 15:04

In principle, all of these things I agree, but everyone is different and everyone has different levels of habitual wakefulness (that's trite, of course

). Since You have reduced sensitivity to light and sound (and this is a diagnostic feature), you can assume that You pretty well balanced and able to relax (and Your post confirms this).
Others may need longer training to "rode" in this process...

Саша · Post by **Саша** » Sun May 06, 2007 20:16

Thank you, Andrew and Carilo. I have no doubt that it will, but I can't get rid of thoughts during the session. they seem to be about anything, and sometimes just some nonsense, naturally, as in a dream. But still always kind of chain of words, like a marquee in my head creeps. Anything, understand.
From the film "Formula of love":
- Lungs breathe, heart beats.
- What about the head?
- And the head - a subject dark and to research is not subject...

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Sun May 06, 2007 21:37

Andrew, I thought

a maximum razrushiteli, I have something to the contrary is not right)))

Sasha I have the same trouble with thoughts, then you're not one) you Should try to calm down and constantly, but gently follow thoughts ->trying to focus on the feelings<-, the sensations, the sounds and flashes of light. Gradually, little by little, but it starts to break the deadlock, although it seems that anything to do with inner speech is not possible.

As I understand the case case of the left hemisphere in logical thinking. Around us constantly words, do we read, write or communicate. The Western way of thinking damn... Can you advise to do something dumb and creative. To write poetry, to paint, to compose music - it's all done with images. That figure is already the way is clear, but the music also has its own drawing the melody and lyrics are perfect to sing to the music.

The fact that I am writing all this also means I can do that))) I draw a bit (wanted to be a designer) and am feeling a bit of text (wanted to be a journalist) perhaps these skills and help me.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon May 07, 2007 11:35

Андрей Патрушев wrote:basically, all of these things I agree, but everyone is different and everyone has different levels of habitual wakefulness (that's trite, of course ). Since You have reduced sensitivity to light and sound (and this is a diagnostic feature), you can assume that You pretty well balanced and able to relax (and Your post confirms this).
Others may need longer training to "rode" in this process...

Yeah!!!!

Псих · Post by **Псих** » Mon May 07, 2007 21:23

Today again set i2 with square pulses.
The strong shaking was not as before, probably due to the fact that I was tired on the sport.

But I apparently turned himself in alpha mode, i.e. after 15-20 minutes stopped almost internal dialogue and monologue.

But what is strange, was the loss I saw as it were short pieces of dreams - what nonsense, I can't even remember about what, and when you change the flashing modes, I again returned to consciousness. And so a dozen times.
This is as it should be?

And interestingly, when I thought it was time to tie, made a count to five to Wake up normally, but five thought about it, and decided to count to 10, ironically on the last digit of the device was finished 30минутную program.

Actually interested to hear comments from the experienced whether all was fine or I needed to keep consciousness and not to fall into such strange dreams?

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Mon May 07, 2007 21:53

Crazy, and what's the meaning of the exercises? Just to have fun? i2 is certainly fun, but I think before you get behind the wheel of the car to learn the traffic rules.

At least doing just r sessions - learn to relax, which can be useful in the same metro. He closed his eyes, breathed, snapped his fingers or a mantra sang and without any Mende machine you're already in the alpha state...

Псих · Post by **Псих** » Mon May 07, 2007 22:35

The meaning of the device - the summoning of various States (alpha, theta, Delta). Their recycling while for me not until the end is clear, but I think when you fail to achieve them, to appear and purpose. And basically it's like wanderlust, but here the journey is not in the external world and the internal.

Metaphysical aspects I'm already less interested in, because I have so many different points of view got on the case, which became an agnostic. Regarding the rules of usage, due to the fact that I are already without any instruments included in alfamacchine (meditation), and here problems with a head does not arise.

And so, by the way, i2 is one of the recommended sessions for initial training

Well speaking, what you see is the point in the exercise?)

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Tue May 08, 2007 1:28

4 days listening to "Explorer", the stable results are too early to tell. Dimas says it will decline.

Noticed that he became more impulsive and started to show character. I usually voice increased if absolutely saw no way out of the situation, and just preferred to keep silent. The anger takes energy, and I wasn't enough or something...

Even became more energetic, started to move more, such as rolling on the floor, just for fun

or dance if you hear something energetic, today the pillow to the ceiling, feet planted.

In General, every time something new comes to mind.

I've often noticed when you get up, then dizzy and nauseated. Over the past four days, my head was spinning just once, but passed very quickly, in just a few seconds literally.

These are the effects I definitely connected with the drive Explorer, because something similar happened Dimasa and other people too.

Now with regards to actually the mind-machine. Relaxing session I listened to only three or four times in the second half of the day, well, too much can not say anything. It seems to me a big part of my life I'm so alpha spent...

well, or in other words if I lived in a semi-sleep.

But there is a real benefit from energize. After listening to really added speed and focus, and I really don't even have enough in life. In General at work when backed up, then accelerated for a few days, but then decline the existence of vegetable and long in two to three weeks... alpha for creativity is good, but when there is no energy then literally fell asleep while drawing...

However today I outplayed a bit. Somewhere in the 12 e01 listened to then was minding my own business, I straight perlo))) and was a very significant shift in the work. And then rested for a while, just lying on the bed, talking, loitering. And then I decided to listen to e02. Well, listen-listen, pumped with energy and suddenly like a punch pillow for the head, the session has decided to hear all the same. In short the rest of the day went dumb as a stump))) did not want to Think, did not want to work and not work, and even a little hurts the head. But the truth is physical energy was in abundance that is interesting. In General, the way to seven in the evening. Then I remembered that the Explorer it is time to listen. After the conductor became easier, and now all head stopped hurting.

In General when you occlusal course guide, in terms of "Massage brain", then I don't know maybe "Endorphins". Plans to learn to enter theta and call the images, I want to introduce a way to sit down at the computer and draw out of my head. Well, this is the ideal.

If not, then I hope to gain alpha theta when I'm awake, but in a state of silence. In General in this state is very good drawing from life, literally working like camera, notice any transitions of light, shadow, see all the proportions, even the smallest. I had it like three times...

In daaaaaahling plans to work with the "Solar wind", to meditate on the chakras

And quite so far about the Bronnikov method is to ask there are many all the energy panky, some fields and other nonsense.

There increase the energy level in the first stage

But on the second developing a visualization to a fantastic level, and this is what I need. Quality creative thinking is fotopamyat ' (the ability to memorize a sheet of text with a single glance), even all the mnemonics goes to a qualitatively new level. It's one thing to write stories and let them cool and even memorable, it is quite another for those stories to SEE with my eyes closed. About the role of visualization in drawing and painting I wrote above...

However, this method of Bronnikov can be complete bullshit

and Scam

designed to pull money from gullible me... And no damn about it knows nothing... And therefore shelved.

And ischo HACHU ECHOFON PARAM NIMAGA VAPCHE.

Money really is not, but soon will be, and echofon no.

According to Dimasa this thing increases the return from Mende machine right at times... to Order in America are too lazy, dunno when will reach just yet I'm afraid... But if after a month or two the website for mind machines give birth, not restrain myself and buy it.

That's how I see the meaning of the exercises))) There is at least a year, and ideally for life, if all goes as is now. Maybe even the school of the art open or courses, or write a book about drawing. Do you like the name "tools of development of artistic perception"?

If you write instead of the first two words of the mind-machine it will be not so cool. :P

In General, a lot of things, if only it all ended suddenly...

I wrote in another post, I have a lot so first pret-pret, and then SNiP and cut and all... not rushing.

And I want to kill myself no more growth and progress.

Again boyance dashed.
Ooooy of baaaaaaaaaaad, baaaaaaaaaaad
Neeee maaaaaaany mamaaaaaaa
Neeeee maaaaaaany mamaaaaaaa
Maaaaaaaaaaaa oooookaaaay

The end.

Post by **Андрей Кабанков** » Tue May 08, 2007 9:16

Карил wrote: And ischo HACHU ECHOFON PARAM NIMAGA VAPCHE. Money really is not, but soon will be, and echofon no. According to Dimasa this thing increases the return from Mende machine right at times... to Order in America are too lazy, dunno when will reach just yet I'm afraid... But if after a month or two the website for mind machines give birth, not restrain myself and buy it.
.

Us delays no.The manufacturer has currently power supply is 220 volts (in the us 110V).So what are waiting for...

Шум · Post by **Шум** » Tue May 08, 2007 9:49

Carilo,

Cool. Write ischo.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue May 08, 2007 11:38

Псих wrote:Today again set i2 with square pulses.
The strong shaking was not as before, probably due to the fact that I was tired on the sport.

But I apparently turned himself in alpha mode, i.e. after 15-20 minutes stopped almost internal dialogue and monologue.

But what is strange, was the loss I saw as it were short pieces of dreams - what nonsense, I can't even remember about what, and when you change the flashing modes, I again returned to consciousness. And so a dozen times.
This is as it should be?

And interestingly, when I thought it was time to tie, made a count to five to Wake up normally, but five thought about it, and decided to count to 10, ironically on the last digit of the device was finished 30минутную program.

Actually interested to hear comments from the experienced whether all was fine or I needed to keep consciousness and not to fall into such strange dreams?

All right,don't worry,over time, learn how to "keep state" and less to fail...Then it will cease to fall,there are interesting start...Although I now when very tired,fail sometimes...But then as a cucumber walking,5-7 minutes after the session..And that's about the countdown...Actually a lot of synchronism happens predictions,even the modeling of the situation and its subsequent almost exact (!!!!!!) playing in the real world...I am surprised..and the farther,the more stable the effect is...Well, what can I say:Consciousness determines matter.

all depends on the state of consciousness where co-creation going on in the world...and not roll the theme of "Want" Golden " Bentleys with chauffeurs, Angelina Jolie

), eating crackers with tea or sitting in front of the TV...(by the way,I bet for fun to throw that request in essenence,I wonder what will happen..

)...So experimentary!!!!

Псих · Post by **Псих** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:00

Карил wrote:Seems to me a big part of my life I'm so alpha spent...

It is strange but I after the device appeared the same idea

In the sense that alpha pokazalosi me quite commonplace, let's see what happens when the steepest landing floor to penetrate into the Delta and theta without losing consciousness)

On the application, there is another interesting aspect, especially for those who are familiar with the concepts of imprint, conditioning and TP of modern psychology. For those not in the know I'll try to explain.

It is no secret that to 5 years the child has formed some basic rules and concepts with which he lives the rest of her life in complete confusion considering them the basics of the basics (more, not even knowing about their existence). Hence there is a feeling that "it should be". Yes, and not really up to 5 years, there is writing rules, and there is somewhere 20 years, just more of it in children prescribed.
Can cite a famous example with Gosling, who at birth has got a tennis ball (i.e. not a mother gusikha, and the yellow spherical object). After that, a lifetime in the brain has recorded the imprint - this object is the mother and just the ideal female. In any case, he was running for the ball, and when I grew up, tried to mate with him.
A similar case was with a giraffe which came at the birth of the jeep.
Examples of course from the rough, but the animals all of this is easier and people tend not to notice such things.
So being iprintoemuni in the moments when our brain is especially vulnerable (to 5 years) some of us are leaders, some are sexual maniacs, some gay (it's partly the same problem wrong imprenditore), some malenkimi sons or Vice versa Chur buntarej marooned on had. And worst of all, rare people manage to get a good series of imprints, usually is a game of chance (or don't know the parents either do I had an accident much seared in memory). And in later life it is very difficult to see their own imprints (clearly visible but the other "wrong"

. And its not easy to notice, because they constitute the criteria by which we determine what is good and what is bad, what is right and what is wrong. Try to prove the unconstitutionality competently written Constitution based on that of constitutionality;)

Now air conditioning is virtually the same imprint, only narabatyvaya over time, i.e. for example it is possible to obtain a specific type of complex and in 30 years, which will be based on this mechanism (recurring events with the same outcome). Here's an example for you often in the evening attack of the bullies (bullies), and a few of these evenings you may have a strong feeling that everyone who walks the street at night - the hooligans(bullies) (except for you of course;) same situation with the Jews and for example the Chechens and women dressed in national Caucasian outfit (especially if it is to go to metro). Well or moving up the social ladder entails a change in many of the condensates in the brain, in fact, the nature of thinking is changing, but again in the framework of the existing imprints.

Therefore, the set of imprints-condensates and (pre)belief (in milder form) forms the relationship to the external world and to internal. For example, some whole life, consider yourself a super star, admired by a constantly (or in a more mild form of self-confidence), and some constantly yourself on the topic of spiritual and physical imperfections, although estesstvenno more secondary cases. Well, it is quite ordinary view that we are all right in the head, but others have some incorrect ideas about the world that were the basis of many quarrels.

By the way, what "cures" the Conductor is rather a conditioning that is actually already very good. But to change the imprints requires a deeper meditative state (or LSD, until it was forbidden, psychologists have conducted many experiments, and in particular found such an effect).

Now imagine that you are in these deep States find yourself and give yourself the set of imprints you want, not the one you accidentally got.

I probably harshly criticize Andrei Patrushev, but much as he could have written, I have, unfortunately, not psychological education))

In conclusion, I want to note that the above is my personal understanding of these things and claims to be the truth (especially in the ways of getting rid of imprints). The opinion formed mostly books, only personally convinced in the existence of the imprints and of the condensates, but that they continue to do - show hope practice with the device.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:07

Карил wrote:4 day of listening "Conductor" of stable results is too early to say. Dimas says it will decline.

Noticed that he became more impulsive and started to show character. I usually voice increased if absolutely saw no way out of the situation, and just preferred to keep silent. The anger takes energy, and I wasn't enough or something...

Even became more energetic, started to move more, such as rolling on the floor, just for fun or dance if you hear something energetic, today the pillow to the ceiling, feet planted. In General, every time something new comes to mind.

I've often noticed when you get up, then dizzy and nauseated. Over the past four days, my head was spinning just once, but passed very quickly, in just a few seconds literally.

These are the effects I definitely connected with the drive Explorer, because something similar happened Dimasa and other people too.

Now with regards to actually the mind-machine. Relaxing session I listened to only three or four times in the second half of the day, well, too much can not say anything. It seems to me a big part of my life I'm so alpha spent... well, or in other words if I lived in a semi-sleep.

But there is a real benefit from energize. After listening to really added speed and focus, and I really don't even have enough in life. In General at work when backed up, then accelerated for a few days, but then decline the existence of vegetable and long in two to three weeks... alpha for creativity is good, but when there is no energy then literally fell asleep while drawing...

However today I outplayed a bit. Somewhere in the 12 e01 listened to then was minding my own business, I straight perlo))) and was a very significant shift in the work. And then rested for a while, just lying on the bed, talking, loitering. And then I decided to listen to e02. Well, listen-listen, pumped with energy and suddenly like a punch pillow for the head, the session has decided to hear all the same. In short the rest of the day went dumb as a stump))) did not want to Think, did not want to work and not work, and even a little hurts the head. But the truth is physical energy was in abundance that is interesting. In General, the way to seven in the evening. Then I remembered that the Explorer it is time to listen. After the conductor became easier, and now all head stopped hurting.

In General when you occlusal course guide, in terms of "Massage brain", then I don't know maybe "Endorphins". Plans to learn to enter theta and call the images, I want to introduce a way to sit down at the computer and draw out of my head. Well, this is the ideal.

If not, then I hope to gain alpha theta when I'm awake, but in a state of silence. In General in this state is very good drawing from life, literally working like camera, notice any transitions of light, shadow, see all the proportions, even the smallest. I had it like three times...

In daaaaaahling plans to work with the "Solar wind", to meditate on the chakras And quite so far about the Bronnikov method is to ask there are many all the energy panky, some fields and other nonsense. There increase the energy level in the first stage But on the second developing a visualization to a fantastic level, and this is what I need. Quality creative thinking is fotopamyat ' (the ability to memorize a sheet of text with a single glance), even all the mnemonics goes to a qualitatively new level. It's one thing to write stories and let them cool and even memorable, it is quite another for those stories to SEE with my eyes closed. About the role of visualization in drawing and painting I wrote above...

However, this method of Bronnikov can be complete bullshit and Scam designed to pull money from gullible me... And no damn about it knows nothing... And therefore shelved.

And ischo HACHU ECHOFON PARAM NIMAGA VAPCHE. Money really is not, but soon will be, and echofon no. According to Dimasa this thing increases the return from Mende machine right at times... to Order in America are too lazy, dunno when will reach just yet I'm afraid... But if after a month or two the website for mind machines give birth, not restrain myself and buy it.

That's how I see the meaning of the exercises))) There is at least a year, and ideally for life, if all goes as is now. Maybe even the school of the art open or courses, or write a book about drawing. Do you like the name "tools of development of artistic perception"? If you write instead of the first two words of the mind-machine it will be not so cool. :P

In General, a lot of things, if only it all ended suddenly... I wrote in another post, I have a lot so first pret-pret, and then SNiP and cut and all... not rushing. And I want to kill myself no more growth and progress.

Again boyance dashed.
Ooooy of baaaaaaaaaaad, baaaaaaaaaaad
Neeee maaaaaaany mamaaaaaaa
Neeeee maaaaaaany mamaaaaaaa
Maaaaaaaaaaaa oooookaaaay

The end.

Echofon no,because they're in my fucking America do (develop) power supply,adapted to the patient electricity,they have there is not 220 volt,and so sophomoric..Those echofone that came at the time they did,but they were quite a bit...So if you order directly,I will come,but for 110 volts

:!: and overpaid a lot...(for the kind of miracle 110).About pret-pret not...As I wrote before,that in the psyche there is a SUSTAINABLE AND LONG-lasting changes,we need to swing it..Imagine a heavy pendulum,you first need to make an effort to shake,and then he swings-there is something similar...get Ready for the recession (but this is not the fact,I was so,but I haven't had to start using machines effects SUCH as you,Psycho and other users,I do almost nothing at first..I think this is because of several traumatic brain injuries,various experiments with the psyche..So who knows what will be from YOU and from other users..)Disk Explorer is very good at helping to set a goal and stick to it in the future...I used to never able to focus on one thing+ SDV,you receive the interest you do in a day lose interest-they stop doing essesno no RES-TA=a disappointment..Now I don't know can focus on one thing,and do not hear,do not see anything around..here is a revelation to me...And here is completely different essesno productivity...And yet,Carilo,judging by WHAT you write,you should do it with alpha...But most of the life you spent apparently in theta (IMHO)...From the accumulated alpha there is absolutely NO sleepiness...a State of rest and of increased susceptibility to the surrounding and inner peace..-here it is!As drowsiness and loss (lack) of energy is a characteristic theta-Delta (or-or) condition...Asking Andrew P. comment on our posts (and mine in particular,so as not to introduce people astray,if I have something that came out wrong and made a mistake somewhere in the thread)!!!!

Псих · Post by **Псих** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:10

Dimas wrote:by the way,I bet for fun to throw that request in essenence,I wonder what will happen..

I hope that you never essenence will not come up with the idea - "I want I was the only person on Earth"

Then I think it is appropriate to talk about three cases rainmaking))
(quote by Robert Wilson, the book "the New Inquisition")

20 Oct 1879 London "times" reported that the summer in Spain was a terrible drought. After the mass prayers, the rain really gone.
"Materialists defeated," they think of the admirers of the old idol for the first time.
But the rain came and went, and went.
It destroyed five villages and killed 1,500 people.

21 March 1913 Wellington "evening post" reported another drought, this time in Australia, and on the mass prayers for rain.
"The greatest disaster in Australia's history" called the "evening post" flooding due to poslepoludennoe rain.

June 4, 1913, "Honved mail" (China) reported about the next drought and mass prayers for rain Chinese "gods".
As a result of the rain sixteen men drowned. Canton cleared and rebuilt for a whole month. Perhaps someone sigh with relief, knowing that temporary failures gives not only the Christian "God".

According to "times of India" for September 16, 1905, in India there was a drought. As you have seen, the Indians prayed to "the gods." The ensuing earthquake completely destroyed the city of Lahore.

And from me - recently had a similar situation among the Jews, when they went to pray to the wailing wall, and went really rain. Although they apparently do not overdo it with prayers, and there was no flood)

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:24

Псих wrote:
Карил wrote:Seems to me a big part of my life I'm so alpha spent...
It is strange but I after the device appeared the same idea
In the sense that alpha pokazalosi me quite commonplace, let's see what happens when the steepest landing floor to penetrate into the Delta and theta without losing consciousness)

On the application, there is another interesting aspect, especially for those who are familiar with the concepts of imprint, conditioning and TP of modern psychology. For those not in the know I'll try to explain.

It is no secret that to 5 years the child has formed some basic rules and concepts with which he lives the rest of her life in complete confusion considering them the basics of the basics (more, not even knowing about their existence). Hence there is a feeling that "it should be". Yes, and not really up to 5 years, there is writing rules, and there is somewhere 20 years, just more of it in children prescribed.
Can cite a famous example with Gosling, who at birth has got a tennis ball (i.e. not a mother gusikha, and the yellow spherical object). After that, a lifetime in the brain has recorded the imprint - this object is the mother and just the ideal female. In any case, he was running for the ball, and when I grew up, tried to mate with him.
A similar case was with a giraffe which came at the birth of the jeep.
Examples of course from the rough, but the animals all of this is easier and people tend not to notice such things.
So being iprintoemuni in the moments when our brain is especially vulnerable (to 5 years) some of us are leaders, some are sexual maniacs, some gay (it's partly the same problem wrong imprenditore), some malenkimi sons or Vice versa Chur buntarej marooned on had. And worst of all, rare people manage to get a good series of imprints, usually is a game of chance (or don't know the parents either do I had an accident much seared in memory). And in later life it is very difficult to see their own imprints (clearly visible but the other "wrong" . And its not easy to notice, because they constitute the criteria by which we determine what is good and what is bad, what is right and what is wrong. Try to prove the unconstitutionality competently written Constitution based on that of constitutionality;)

Now air conditioning is virtually the same imprint, only narabatyvaya over time, i.e. for example it is possible to obtain a specific type of complex and in 30 years, which will be based on this mechanism (recurring events with the same outcome). Here's an example for you often in the evening attack of the bullies (bullies), and a few of these evenings you may have a strong feeling that everyone who walks the street at night - the hooligans(bullies) (except for you of course;) same situation with the Jews and for example the Chechens and women dressed in national Caucasian outfit (especially if it is to go to metro). Well or moving up the social ladder entails a change in many of the condensates in the brain, in fact, the nature of thinking is changing, but again in the framework of the existing imprints.

Therefore, the set of imprints-condensates and (pre)belief (in milder form) forms the relationship to the external world and to internal. For example, some whole life, consider yourself a super star, admired by a constantly (or in a more mild form of self-confidence), and some constantly yourself on the topic of spiritual and physical imperfections, although estesstvenno more secondary cases. Well, it is quite ordinary view that we are all right in the head, but others have some incorrect ideas about the world that were the basis of many quarrels.

By the way, what "cures" the Conductor is rather a conditioning that is actually already very good. But to change the imprints requires a deeper meditative state (or LSD, until it was forbidden, psychologists have conducted many experiments, and in particular found such an effect).

Now imagine that you are in these deep States find yourself and give yourself the set of imprints you want, not the one you accidentally got.

I probably harshly criticize Andrei Patrushev, but much as he could have written, I have, unfortunately, not psychological education))

In conclusion, I want to note that the above is my personal understanding of these things and claims to be the truth (especially in the ways of getting rid of imprints). The opinion formed mostly books, only personally convinced in the existence of the imprints and of the condensates, but that they continue to do - show hope practice with the device.

This issue was discussed on the forum,dig in,there is an interesting response Andrew P. He wrote that, WHAT makes "Conductor"...by the Way,here on workshop at the University of got found out

that kriting,it is only a simulation of the behavior of the geese,chickens and giraffes there...But not perception...

Псих · Post by **Псих** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:55

Dimas wrote:by the Way,here at the seminar at the University of got found out that kriting,it is only a simulation of the behavior of the geese,chickens and giraffes there...But not perception...

You probably stick to the Orthodox school which believes that perception is a pure process that pozvoljaet to behold the absolute reality))

In my view (formed again by the books and verified in practice) perception is not a passive process of registration of signals from the nerve sensors in the eyes, ears, skin, and nose, and active. Since then the signals undergo several transformations, such as image flips eyes, in my ears the sound is refined (for example, if the voice is not very legible sounds, the brain completes the signal, and you begin to make out the words), then occurs the transformation of osnovatelno plan, such as seeing a glowing object in the sky one person would consider it a UFO, and another angel, a third one just the glowing object, to each his own vosprijatie will be like Oh really. Or I look at the blue Blestyashie with brushed inserts and push-button rounded object, and what I see is not what is described and you see "tea", that does different things)

In the end, the output of "perception" isn't just a picture, and painted, and is a recognized reality that strain our (pre)units (imprints).

If unconvincing here's another example: a resident of Ethiopian tribe and had come to Paris looking for the same Ethiopian woman (which is a very fine woman, but exclusively by Ethiopian, i.e., for example wide hips, big hanging Breasts))). Does it perceive these two men? Both eyes receive the same information (we will assume they have no problems with vision). But what happens next after all transformations of perception? Ethiopia succumbs to the will and looks at her as a goddess, but a Parisian will probably interested in her as an attraction, perhaps even it will be unpleasant to look at her. Words of course complicated things to opisyvat, try to put yourself in the place of both, and compare how to change the picture of perception.

You can certainly convince yourself that it's all fiction of our brain, but we live in the world converted his head reality.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue May 08, 2007 13:55

I agree..And I don't exactly stick to the Orthodox point of view...Wrote a sample description of such phenomena academic science..Everything is much more complicated than even describes R. A. Olsen in his books (I read them all,which lie at the bookstores)...Suggest to expand the horizons to see the Tome of Ken Wilber "Integral psychology" and "No boundaries. Eastern and Western ways of personal growth",if this topic interest you...

Pavel · Post by **Pavel** » Tue May 08, 2007 14:15

Yes folks, Crazy and Karil, I see you in his bosom a bunch of theories and texts kilometer. The feeling that you are session on relaxation of the chase, and session charge set and you start to shove. Give time to your changes and distortions as appeared in the beginning and will leave in a few days.
You would be the first month only with discs Patrushev work out to achieve a pleasant level of relaxation, sensitivity and synchronization of the activities of the hemispheres of the brain - power even much stronger machine work.
You can compare the feeling of thirst after sessions of relaxation and disc Patrushev. I have to say, the sense of thirst after the sessions do not feel, but after Patrushev disks such dryness is located in the head and chest, which drink up to a pint of water: the greater the degree of relaxation while listening to CDs Patrushev, the more I want after listening to drink and more drink. And most importantly, feels like water to disperse waves along the body.
Another thing:
The impact of the cars more noticeable to the fore only after a cycle of listening-only discs Patrushev - increase the impact of cars rises that way at 100-150 percent.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue May 08, 2007 14:19

Pavel wrote:Yes folks, Crazy and Karil, I see you in his bosom a bunch of theories and texts kilometer. The feeling that you are session on relaxation of the chase, and session charge set and you start to shove. Give time to your changes and distortions as appeared in the beginning and will leave in a few days.
You would be the first month only with discs Patrushev work out to achieve a pleasant level of relaxation, sensitivity and synchronization of the activities of the hemispheres of the brain - power even much stronger machine work.
You can compare the feeling of thirst after sessions of relaxation and disc Patrushev. I have to say, the sense of thirst after the sessions do not feel, but after Patrushev disks such dryness is located in the head and chest, which drink up to a pint of water: the greater the degree of relaxation while listening to CDs Patrushev, the more I want after listening to drink and more drink. And most importantly, feels like water to disperse waves along the body.
Another thing:
The impact of the cars more noticeable to the fore only after a cycle of listening-only discs Patrushev - increase the impact of cars rises that way at 100-150 percent.

Put his bloody signature!!!

Псих · Post by **Псих** » Tue May 08, 2007 14:25

Dimas wrote:I Agree..And I don't exactly stick to the Orthodox point of view...Wrote a sample description of such phenomena academic science..Everything is much more complicated than even describes R. A. Olsen in his books (I read them all,which lie at the bookstores)...Suggest to expand the horizons to see the Tome of Ken Wilber "Integral psychology" and "No boundaries. Eastern and Western ways of personal growth",if this topic interest you...

Surprisingly like-minded meet))
Maybe even recommend a few books? Himself almost at random, we have to choose.
Vadim Zeland is not read by the way?)

Псих · Post by **Псих** » Tue May 08, 2007 14:32

Pavel wrote:the Impact of cars more noticeable to the fore only after a cycle of listening-only discs Patrushev - increase the impact of cars rises that way at 100-150 percent.

Has there been an experiment on two identical people - one of them a month listening to the Conductor, and the other month was engaged with alphasense?

Or you had the experience of using the device with a month, not giving the result,and after a course of the Conductor that result appear?

PS: Explorer I listen to every day) but the initial phrase is very confusing, about the one Creator and the Holy spirit) everything on (except again the last phrase with such terminology) is quite interesting. Truth distracts the understanding of hypnotic techniques used by Andrew, but the effect of immersion I got (and I have long dreamed under hypnosis to go) many thanks to the Creator of the CD:)

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue May 08, 2007 14:37