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Post by Сперанца » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:31

Andrei Patrushev
Healing is, IMHO, better at night before going to bed to listen...
Clear. I will before bed.
I wanted the main sessions in the morning to move, so I woke up 2.5 hours before leaving the house, not sleep, and in the evening come later.

Malvina
I then slept, but it individually.
On my first day of listening went to sleep with difficulty :(

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Post by Сперанца » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:35

Andrei Patrushev
Maybe it's self-defense (answer to yourself)?
I can't even imagine this question to answer. Although I was told that perhaps I was someone so hurt that I closed. But I fight myself not to remember.
what threat
That's even scary for me. Want to feel :roll:

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Thank you. You are very close to the truth, actually described my feelings from the relationship with konkretnym opponent:)
I helped (to start) the book Williami URY, "Overcoming No
Read, thank you. I've been here so many books drugged :shock:

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Post by Александр_ » Mon Jun 25, 2007 19:24

Dimas wrote:
Александр_ wrote:And at the same time describe their experiences.
Machine innerpulse my second day.
You know :) enjoying the game, but on the instructions on the forum - listen to every 3 hours.
And do not the kaleidoscope of different sessions.
Now systematically work with alpha by Patrushev.
Relax haven't tried, but I think there will be no problems, I have mastered auditory training.

Come mate - well, I gave him the SAUCE, gently told about what can be prepared so to speak (in a good way). So he Mindspin session for 4 minutes did not survive (they said that was seasick). Went to victorianism square eyes - here thing !!! today again we ask :)

Now my impressions.
Captures better than brainwave.
I would characterize the impact of innerpulse - stronger than BWG.

I think the main task is to relax.
Then dive into the program, there is state involvement and affiliation.
If watching the process of flashing and I think it will be, engagement happens.
Although I am quite calm in the first and in the second case : because sound and light are working, so that the brain trains itself there as it should be. The mere fact that hearing binaural beats - proof.

I noticed an interesting effect that sometimes - well, only a couple of times on there, what that moment patterns, flickering in the overall picture, it becomes what is near and palpable and clear.
And then there is the feeling that there was something there that you need to jump over this barrier and open something. But how to jump over the barrier I don't know, and the state very quickly.

I wonder what it is ? who knows ?
Try to ignore the feelings by focusing,for example on the breath...This is a way to jump over the "barrier"of the Current...be careful...
Relish and thank you !!!
I feel that for me will be useful.

Today, the alpha tried to do the cyclical breathing was off.

I wonder whether it is possible in session yet and modulation of the breath to lay ?
I mean for example Р02 and sound in breathing.
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Post by Dimas » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:43

Alexander,and there is no need pranayama there any to blow out..breathe normally,in a comfortable mode for You!!!And focus...few minutes when You really calm down,and breathe superficially will not be a burden can begin there are all sorts of interesting...

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Post by Александр_ » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:51

Dimas wrote:Alexander,and there is no need pranayama there any to blow out..breathe normally,in a comfortable mode for You!!!And focus...few minutes when You really calm down,and breathe superficially will not be a burden can begin there are all sorts of interesting...
yeah, try not to try :)

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Post by Александр_ » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:54

Dimas wrote:How many of us brains,and kind of sense,but why so MANY???...Will understand!
By the way, sorry for may be a frequent question, but I the whole forum read, but you've rupestris everywhere.
So this your signature I have read 476 :))

And I'm seriously interested in the answer : well, finally sorted out ?
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Post by Dimas » Wed Jun 27, 2007 13:06

Man is a complex,multifaceted and unknowable (until the end)... of course did not understand,but what's wrong with such a goal?!Little by little sorted out...so here I am...

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Post by Александр_ » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:52

You sly :)
my purpose appropriated :)

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Post by Маша » Thu Jul 05, 2007 17:30

please tell me, I can easily relax the whole body easy, slow breath, thoughts dissolve, but I feel the heartbeat strong, even though in the entire body is given...and it causes discomfort, why is this happening? something wrong? :(

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Post by Dimas » Thu Jul 05, 2007 17:36

nothing terrible,Masha,maybe it's a period of adjustment...I still sometimes during the sessions for meditation is the heartbeat...but rarely...most likely it will take place after a period of exercise...could also be that you simply start your heart feel better,and that sozdaetsya the impression that it is racing.

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Post by Маша » Thu Jul 05, 2007 18:14

Dimas thank you very much :)

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Post by Dimas » Thu Jul 05, 2007 18:22

Always at Your service! :wink:

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Post by вероника » Thu Jul 05, 2007 20:10

Masha, at me long enough (2 months) heart had palpitations every day when listening. How was it not noticed, but after reading Your post, I remembered about it. :)

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Post by Блондинка » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:27

Mm I got 10 days ago, while listening to only the alpha session..
in the beginning only listened to short 2 times a day.. and the last day, 3 night long... and in the end I consistently fall asleep(
tell me this is normal??? or if you sleep the whole benefit from the alpha session will pass??
maybe there also like yoga.. if not shivasana rasslabitsya and fall asleep.. then we can say were proactivel...)
and how many lessons with an alpha session you can begin listening to the meditation? it is interesting to compare the feel of the classes in the hall and after cars. Beforehand thank you all for the answers

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Post by Dimas » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:32

Маринка wrote:Mm, I got 10 days ago, while listening to only the alpha session..
in the beginning only listened to short 2 times a day.. and the last day, 3 night long... and in the end I consistently fall asleep(
tell me this is normal??? or if you sleep the whole benefit from the alpha session will pass??
maybe there also like yoga.. if not shivasana rasslabitsya and fall asleep.. then we can say were proactivel...)
and how many lessons with an alpha session you can begin listening to the meditation? it is interesting to compare the feel of the classes in the hall and after cars. Beforehand thank you all for the answers
The best part of the classroom with machine and disks that they work even when You sleep,Marinka! :) Fall asleep to your health!when the brain poprivyknut it probably won't fall asleep and then the state will be much deeper than in the hall! :wink:

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Post by Александр_ » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:44

Ah Dimas !
And I always fall asleep.
Almost always.

Which is weird, practice the same meditation for a very long time - 8 years
Moreover, meditation also happens, but rarely.

However I listen to any session while lying down.
It's more convenient.

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Post by Dimas » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:54

Александр_ wrote:Oh Dimas !
And I always fall asleep.
Almost always.

Which is weird, practice the same meditation for a very long time - 8 years
Moreover, meditation also happens, but rarely.

However I listen to any session while lying down.
It's more convenient.
Alexander,try sitting,you will not regret!!! :wink: Lying I also always fall asleep..I really like to listen in an office chair,with an upholstered headboard !!!
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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Jul 12, 2007 17:13

Маша wrote:please tell me, I can easily relax the whole body easy, slow breath, thoughts dissolve, but I feel the heartbeat strong, even though in the entire body is given...and it causes discomfort, why is this happening? something wrong? :(
Mary, the fact that at a certain depth of relaxation appear (and very Intrusive) to various bodily sensations, including is heard the pounding of my heart. Just need to chill out on and not pay attention to it...

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Post by Развивающийся » Fri Jul 13, 2007 21:22

All kind time of day!
Finally bought InnerPulse and of course there are questions :lol:
The first session, which was attended, it is r02...
Question: while listening to felt some kind of inner stiffness (although listened to lying down) and the tension in the hands and slightly in my legs. Why is this happening, was it like that from someone?
PS I have noticed when listening to the track is 3.4 disk "Ultramesh"...lasted for 3.5 weeks, especially strongly felt when listening to these tracks before going to sleep after intense mental work a day. Is this normal?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Jul 13, 2007 23:28

Развивающийся wrote:good day!
Finally bought InnerPulse and of course there are questions :lol:
The first session, which was attended, it is r02...
Question: while listening to felt some kind of inner stiffness (although listened to lying down) and the tension in the hands and slightly in my legs. Why is this happening, was it like that from someone?
PS I have noticed when listening to the track is 3.4 disk "Ultramesh"...lasted for 3.5 weeks, especially strongly felt when listening to these tracks before going to sleep after intense mental work a day. Is this normal?
Did You have a spinal injury?
Enough low brightness of LEDs and the volume on the headphones when playing?
Disk Ultramesh at least the 2nd track it is necessary to listen only when you work with any educational material.

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Post by Развивающийся » Sat Jul 14, 2007 19:03

I don't know if you can call it trauma, but at the age of 14 fell from 3-meter height at the back, on the ground, the discomfort was for a week, the doctor is not addressed. Now I am 24 and from 22 hips started aching, the doctors said it was because of flat feet, wear orthotics, but at 23 he began to hurt the thoracic spine, the doctors did not go far, as shown with the lower back, start possible to breed for money, so it went, but again, until the kiss.
The volume and brightness was at a minimum. Today also listened to , but the session i2 on the lowest volume and brightness, so that it was not, but there is a headache in the occipital region, but not strong. And last night and this morning, weird was when listening to "Explorer" (on Friday started a second course after a break of 21 days) in the middle of the class, there was a feeling that my hands are palms up, though the opposite is true and the feeling is very real at first and thought it was so owned, and by the end everything was only wanted to "stretch" lying down. Andrew, is this normal?
And with a disc "Ultramesh" worked, as described in the instructions, just listened to 3 at the end of the day, before bed, for the integration of the material studied in the work, and have a 4 track too, he was well drugged....

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Post by Развивающийся » Sat Jul 14, 2007 19:36

Looked at the forum and do not know where to write these questions, well, just first impressions, respectively, and the first questions :lol:
The manual says that beginners do best from 30 min. to 1 hour. Suppose a newbie has set the time to 1 hour daily. In this regard, there are a few questions:
1. Is there a timeline for training sessions (10, 20, 30 days), as when practicing with the CDs?;
2. Is it possible to listen to, not conflicting on the action session, without a break, but no more than 1 hour? For example, in this collection of: r03 (calm down), then r02 (muscle relaxation) and the end i02 (alpha improvement) - a total of 50 minutes.
3. After some time, you can go for a longer session?
4. Water also advisable to drink before and after the session?

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Post by Сперанца » Sat Jul 14, 2007 20:10

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I'll tell You, as I understand, and I do.
But I am also a novice.
Развивающийся wrote:1. Is there a timeline for training sessions (10, 20, 30 days), as when practicing with the CDs?;
To start up with the alpha sessions. It's all r,i02.
It is advisable to work out with them 3 weeks. Again, 21 days :)
Then the desire to move in the right direction.
Want to meditate - go to session d
Want to sleep with sweet - s
Do you want to learn - l
And so on. Is it possible for the entire run:)
Not worth uvlekutsya theta sessions. They may be depressed to enter.
Развивающийся wrote:Can I hear, not conflicting on the action session, without a break, but no more than 1 hour?
Why? There in each session duration can be changed.
At first I listened to every day for 15-20 minutes, then 30-40 minutes 40 minutes 3 times a week.
Развивающийся wrote:how long you can go for a longer session?
This is what?? 2 hours??? But why??
Развивающийся wrote:Water also is advisable to drink before and after the session?
I drink after, because like it was after:)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Jul 14, 2007 21:36

Развивающийся wrote:Looked up the forum and don't know where to write these questions, well, just first impressions, respectively, and the first questions :lol:
The manual says that beginners do best from 30 min. to 1 hour. Suppose a newbie has set the time to 1 hour daily. In this regard, there are a few questions:
1. Is there a timeline for training sessions (10, 20, 30 days), as when practicing with the CDs?;
2. Is it possible to listen to, not conflicting on the action session, without a break, but no more than 1 hour? For example, in this collection of: r03 (calm down), then r02 (muscle relaxation) and the end i02 (alpha improvement) - a total of 50 minutes.
3. After some time, you can go for a longer session?
4. Water also advisable to drink before and after the session?
To work optimally with the sessions for 15-20 minutes 2 times a day with a break of at least 3 hours between them. In my opinion, 20 minutes is hedonism. :D
Water is also advisable to drink before and after the session.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Jul 14, 2007 21:41

Развивающийся wrote:I don't know if you can call it trauma, but at the age of 14 fell from 3-meter height at the back, on the ground, the discomfort was for a week, the doctor is not addressed. Now I am 24 and from 22 hips started aching, the doctors said it was because of flat feet, wear orthotics, but at 23 he began to hurt the thoracic spine, the doctors did not go far, as shown with the lower back, start possible to breed for money, so it went, but again, until the kiss.
The volume and brightness was at a minimum. Today also listened to , but the session i2 on the lowest volume and brightness, so that it was not, but there is a headache in the occipital region, but not strong. And last night and this morning, weird was when listening to "Explorer" (on Friday started a second course after a break of 21 days) in the middle of the class, there was a feeling that my hands are palms up, though the opposite is true and the feeling is very real at first and thought it was so owned, and by the end everything was only wanted to "stretch" lying down. Andrew, is this normal?
And with a disc "Ultramesh" worked, as described in the instructions, just listened to 3 at the end of the day, before bed, for the integration of the material studied in the work, and have a 4 track too, he was well drugged....
For each - their feelings, so that's fine. A feeling of numbness in the hands and feet appear in most cases people who have suffered a spinal injury. Most strongly they are manifested in the classroom with high frequency programs: Healing, Massage Brain, Star traveler.

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