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Post by Евгений Кош » Tue Aug 21, 2007 23:00

Андрей Патрушев wrote: seems to be correct, but a little something missing in the rhythm of the phrase, to my ears.

Now in terms of the strategic approach within the framework of FPM. Resistance at the domestic level does not exist in principle. There are limitations in the decent and effective ways of behavior of some parts of the personality responsible for the implementation of Your deep inner values.
Sedona method has limitations in application.
In my opinion, it is possible to apply, if you have something to deliver instead of over-the-counter...
1. I agree, sounds a bit of a mess.
2.I guess from this it follows that it is necessary to ask
"behaviors of my parts of personality become worthy and efficient". However, it remains to understand - the higher self determines itself what behavior is effective, or he needs examples?
Hmm.. while on the other hand when you consider that the higher self has a connection with the universal mind, it can take effective and dignified ways of behavior. if so, then everything smoothly.(if my direction of thinking is in the right direction).

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Post by Евгений Кош » Tue Aug 21, 2007 23:05

Андрей Патрушев wrote: Sedona method has limitations in application.
In my opinion, it is possible to apply, if you have something to deliver instead of over-the-counter...
As I understand from the book, the author says that a person initially is all good and proper..
And when you release something bad, it gives way to nice, which was "muted" released bad.(ie is good (which a lot of us from birth) takes the place of the bad)

P. S. if I have a higher connection with the universal mind and can take from there all that will fit ( well or all will ( :D)) , then why conscious I put higher I something something released? as tumble turns.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Tue Aug 21, 2007 23:56

вероника wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:"I let go of resistance to positive change" seems to be correct, but a little something missing in the rhythm of the phrase, to my ears.
I thought that phrase should be built at the present time. Missed something, I'll look for:wiz
Properly, in present tense, but perfect tense. Like: "I'm good", "I love and loved", "I Have so-and-so," "I know so-and-so," etc., etc. :)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Tue Aug 21, 2007 23:57

Евгений Кош wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote: seems to be correct, but a little something missing in the rhythm of the phrase, to my ears.

Now in terms of the strategic approach within the framework of FPM. Resistance at the domestic level does not exist in principle. There are limitations in the decent and effective ways of behavior of some parts of the personality responsible for the implementation of Your deep inner values.
Sedona method has limitations in application.
In my opinion, it is possible to apply, if you have something to deliver instead of over-the-counter...
1. I agree, sounds a bit of a mess.
2.I guess from this it follows that it is necessary to ask
"behaviors of my parts of personality become worthy and efficient". However, it remains to understand - the higher self determines itself what behavior is effective, or he needs examples?
Hmm.. while on the other hand when you consider that the higher self has a connection with the universal mind, it can take effective and dignified ways of behavior. if so, then everything smoothly.(if my direction of thinking is in the right direction).
Each will be rewarded according to his faith... 8)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Tue Aug 21, 2007 23:59

Евгений Кош wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote: Sedona method has limitations in application.
In my opinion, it is possible to apply, if you have something to deliver instead of over-the-counter...
As I understand from the book, the author says that a person initially is all good and proper..
And when you release something bad, it gives way to nice, which was "muted" released bad.(ie is good (which a lot of us from birth) takes the place of the bad)

P. S. if I have a higher connection with the universal mind and can take from there all that will fit ( well or all will ( :D)) , then why conscious I put higher I something something released? as tumble turns.
Yes, to soothe the ego, what else...

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Post by Оранжевое Сон-Це » Wed Aug 22, 2007 0:37

Андрей Патрушев wrote:I'm Sorry, I'm not jiving, just someone I've got reproached that I give everything on a silver platter, they say and think about yourself you can't.
:) :? well I, for one, every time something does not understand (that is, when your answer creates a new question) - begin to formulate what I do not understand and gradually he find the answer, or just put it off, knowing that now I still can't find the answer that will satisfy me. Here is the brain for the exact wording runs, and even some deeper mechanisms, and when the answer is found, even if it is not precisely formulated, but simply floats in the form of some image - inside says "yeah :)"... I don't know, I have something like that. But when it comes to something deep when "no one can know what's best for me"

Although there are some questions that are simply stupid to ask a knowledgeable person :) For example, in Sedona. In the description of the method that was applied to the Rainbow, they say that it is better to work out a common emotion - fear, anger, and so on - and the list of suggested phrases on the contrary - small, private. Where is the logic? And how is it better?

Eugenecan you steam and find a great emotion, which includes this resistance, and to develop it? Or, if Andrew says that resistance is, in principle, should not be - so you have a sense of incompleteness from the emptiness :) Have you tried the affirmation "I am glad(UUS) positive changes"?

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:57

Оранжевое Сон-Це wrote: Although there are some questions that are simply stupid to ask a knowledgeable person :)

Eugenecan you steam and find a great emotion, which includes this resistance, and to develop it? Or, if Andrew says that resistance is, in principle, should not be - so you have a sense of incompleteness from the emptiness :) Have you tried the affirmation "I am glad(UUS) positive changes"?
1. To ask the knowledgeable - is the natural and correct behavior. All the Eastern route to enlightenment in the initial stages are a teacher is very important.. so that the student does not get lost in the jungle, to see the right path, .. and the same assistance in the situations to which he is not ready yet.
2. affirmation - there is no try. Now make a list of "saganowski" and a list of "affirmations" as soon as will be ready - will be working with them. to go with the sedonas day with the affirmation.. just try to make overlapping affirmations that let in "Sedona".

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Post by evgeniya_ » Mon Sep 17, 2007 13:11

Andrey Patrushev wrote(a):
Sorry, I'm not jiving, just someone I've got reproached that I give everything on a silver platter, they say and think about yourself you can't.
Who is the silver platter, and who is the starting point, push.
Wrong goal, or just the wrong wording, can hurt people, and, unlike the right, can sit very deeply in the brain. Thanks to Andrew for what he describes in detail.
The theme is self HYPNOSIS AND the CORRECT SETTING GOALS and not THINK for YOURSELF. What I would never have thought to be cautious with the word "HEALTHY".

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Post by ШДен » Mon Sep 17, 2007 14:26

evgeniya_ wrote:what I would never have thought to be cautious with the word "HEALTHY".
Yeah - after that try every word spread out on the shelves and look for synonyms :roll:

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Post by Развивающийся » Tue Nov 06, 2007 23:45

Dear friends!!!
Really want to consult with You.

Suitable third course listening to the disc "Explorer" and was the issue of goal setting. Some time ago I wanted to join the third year to deliver to this goal: "to Choose the part of me that needs to change most, to find her equally simple, effective and worthy new ways of behavior, completely suitable for me as a whole person".

But the work has changed. In connection therewith, it is necessary to obtain the attestation certificate (it is necessary to assess the level of training of specialists in the field of my work). The certificate is not the goal. All of this is important to me the level of my knowledge (now, he's not at the level at which I would like). To increase it, can only with the help of hard work with a large volume of materials, and then obtaining a certificate is a formality. The term of training of 3,5 months. The problem is that I don't know, as in this case the optimal formulate a goal to work with the "Conductor" to improve the effectiveness of educational material.

The material is quite complex: Government decrees, legislation, regulations (I think, I can imagine how moscowipravo syllable, are written in such content), unfortunately, experience of effective handling of such materials do not have.
Maybe some of the students who received not only the "crust", but also knowledge, asked such a question when working with disk Explorer?

I have the following thoughts on this:
"The level of my professional knowledge very high" or "I enjoy raising the level of professional knowledge"
or here very much:
"I am highly paid professional":? (really really want them to be)
Or even, put the object that you wanted initially, but already there is a subconscious self decide what is more important to me. Please tell me your opinion on this matter. And I am language confused. bc<

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Post by львёнок » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:50

Развивающийся wrote:I want very much they become
When a person is very much something I want, he'll never get, yet will not temper his zeal
ie you need to set the task, set the time after which the event should occur, but not more than 1-2 months, and even better to split into smaller intervals in 7-10D and to choose for each segment of your affirmations, to saturate this piece challenges energy (where is our attention - there is our strength, i.e., thoroughly and clearly formulated and repeatedly to scroll with all the details and confidencethat things will develop that way), and then safely is to forget, to turn away and move on to thinking about the next piece of the problem.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:14

львёнок wrote:
Развивающийся wrote:I want very much they become
When a person is very much something I want, he'll never get, yet will not temper his zeal
ie you need to set the task, set the time after which the event should occur, but not more than 1-2 months, and even better to split into smaller intervals in 7-10D and to choose for each segment of your affirmations, to saturate this piece challenges energy (where is our attention - there is our strength, i.e., thoroughly and clearly formulated and repeatedly to scroll with all the details and confidencethat things will develop that way), and then safely is to forget, to turn away and move on to thinking about the next piece of the problem.
Well are You kidding :)
because if people don't like it, then why do all this the following You to do? No desires, no goals, no aspirations, and no intermediate goals.

At the moment I understand the situation with the Desire as follows: - direction of energy desire in the actions necessary to achieve the goal. Because most people leave almost all their energy desires only in the realm of the senses (desires, dreams, etc), and too little of this energy desires are in action for the realization of this desire .. on this and there people have this INCORRECT phrase - "When a person is very much something I want, he'll never get until you conserve your energy,"..
Now I have this pogovorki do not agree..
No matter how people want not much much.. will temper his ardor, not moderate.. it doesn't matter. Important - how many it will make (and how efficiently) the effort (action ) to realizing this desire.

Wish what you want, remember that your desires are implementing just - you. direct the power of desire in the realization of this desire.

Without the desire IMHO - nothing :) I think that Nature has its own desires, at least to maintain their specific laws and the performance of this desire of nature we observe - firsthand :)

PS and with intermediate targets - quite agree.. this is something that is worthy of attention.
P. S. S. for pre-emption.. not to confuse Desire with mental disabilities ( when the man is delusional obsessions)<

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Post by Развивающийся » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:27

львёнок wrote:When a person is very much something I want, he'll never get, yet will not temper his zeal
ie you need to set the task, set the time after which the event should occur, but not more than 1-2 months, and even better to split into smaller intervals in 7-10D and to choose for each segment of your affirmations, to saturate this piece challenges energy (where is our attention - there is our strength, i.e., thoroughly and clearly formulated and repeatedly to scroll with all the details and confidencethat things will develop that way), and then safely is to forget, to turn away and move on to thinking about the next piece of the problem.
The problem is, the time is set, the entire material was divided into semantic units,...but then why affirmations, if I'm working with one purpose and with the drive Explorer, I think it more effectively than just affirmations...but may be wrong...
At the moment, working with the "Rainbow-arc" (for Sedona, 2 times a day), and during the day with the affirmation: "every day my life becomes in all respects better and better"
Евгений Кош wrote:At the moment, I understand the situation with the Desire as follows: - direction of energy desire in the actions necessary to achieve the goal. Because most people leave almost all their energy desires only in the realm of the senses (desires, dreams, etc), and too little of this energy desires are in action for the realization of this desire .. on this and there people have this INCORRECT phrase - "When a person is very much something I want, he'll never get until you conserve your energy,"..
I'm trying to do, i.e. channel the power of the learning material and not on empty fantasies. And that question is asked, how best to formulate the goal for the drive to efficiency from activities increased.
Евгений Кош wrote:Without desire IMHO - nothing :) I think that Nature has its own desires, at least to maintain their specific laws and the performance of this desire of nature we observe - firsthand :)
Eugene, not quite understand what You mean?
Евгений Кош wrote:PS and with intermediate targets - quite agree.. this is something that is worthy of attention.
P. S. S. for pre-emption.. not to confuse Desire with mental disabilities ( when the man is delusional obsessions)
Obsessive-compulsive disorder no.<

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Post by львёнок » Wed Nov 07, 2007 15:17

Евгений Кош wrote:..Because most people leave almost all their energy desires only in the realm of the senses (desires, dreams, etc)..
Well, buddy, you contradict yourself :)
It just goes about it: there "well, I want!" here as it says, they say, "well hoti on your health, you're already from this its got", but pronounced the Intentionthere just people and apply the maximum (or other sources) of energy. So that's something.
Of course, first, there is a desire for something, but if it then does not go in a clearly formed intention, on this occasion was the phrase "When a person is very much something I want, he'll never get until you conserve your energy" :) ie, the phrase "conserve your energy" says that energy Will have to completely transform to the Intent (ie, potential actions that that will follow) and will no longer have to be volition.
Speaking of birds :)
All our desires, and just fancy, the System implements, but that's just where!
If it does not go into the intention, into action, our energy contained in desires and fantasies, implementing them in parallel dimensions, so they say in such cases about energy sprayed, only the rich energy of the intention turning into action, is implemented here, in our dimension.

However, from personal experience I know that a vivid imagination (they lack explicitly and desires and intentions, it's just a dream) are implemented, only some time later :wizbut more often than not for you personally, as it were, in society, and you look at it as a movie and remember what exactly was in your dream!<

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Nov 07, 2007 16:28

львёнок wrote: .... it is for this reason was the phrase "When a person is very much something I want, he'll never get until you conserve your energy" :) ie, the phrase "conserve your energy" says that energy Will have to completely transform to the Intent (ie, potential actions that that will follow) and will no longer have to be volition.
I do not know what You have it says :)
I read - literally, in order to eliminate speculation.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Nov 07, 2007 18:54

Развивающийся wrote:Dear friends!!!
Really want to consult with You.

Suitable third course listening to the disc "Explorer" and was the issue of goal setting. Some time ago I wanted to join the third year to deliver to this goal: "to Choose the part of me that needs to change most, to find her equally simple, effective and worthy new ways of behavior, completely suitable for me as a whole person".

But the work has changed. In connection therewith, it is necessary to obtain the attestation certificate (it is necessary to assess the level of training of specialists in the field of my work). The certificate is not the goal. All of this is important to me the level of my knowledge (now, he's not at the level at which I would like). To increase it, can only with the help of hard work with a large volume of materials, and then obtaining a certificate is a formality. The term of training of 3,5 months. The problem is that I don't know, as in this case the optimal formulate a goal to work with the "Conductor" to improve the effectiveness of educational material.

The material is quite complex: Government decrees, legislation, regulations (I think, I can imagine how moscowipravo syllable, are written in such content), unfortunately, experience of effective handling of such materials do not have.
Maybe some of the students who received not only the "crust", but also knowledge, asked such a question when working with disk Explorer?

I have the following thoughts on this:
"The level of my professional knowledge very high" or "I enjoy raising the level of professional knowledge"
or here very much:
"I am highly paid professional":? (really really want them to be)
Or even, put the object that you wanted initially, but already there is a subconscious self decide what is more important to me. Please tell me your opinion on this matter. And I am language confused. bc
You see, the subconscious is trying very hard for each of us, but often we get literally what you ask. For example, one friend formulated goal: "the Money gives me the freedom of expression (or even to Express themselves - I don't remember exactly). As a result, he often began to fall into the unpleasant situation connected with money, where he actually had foul language, as it is in certain situations it happens. In addition, from the point of view of useful results is a goal very difficult to call. Therefore, in formulating your goals, keep in mind the most useful and tangible result and avoid such figurative and ambiguous expressions as "the level of professional knowledge" (interestingly, as in the physical world can be demonstrated this level?) or I recently got the delivery from the site where they sell affirmations :) :"I form the inner core of a strong confident personality" (vaasche a nightmare, if you think about what it may bring in terms of health). So the goal is: "I am highly paid professional" I like the most, although it is fairly limited, in my opinion (and maybe it's good).
From the point of view of working with large amounts of material to memorize, I advise you to go to Hugson, find all the course materials for potocani and regularly before bed fotocity their volumes of information. This is a very simple and effective.

evgeniya_, Sden,
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Post by Развивающийся » Wed Nov 07, 2007 20:16

Andrew, thanks for the comment!

By the way, the course potocani downloaded a couple of weeks ago, started using, but so far I can not judge how it works for me.
I have confidence that I'm doing something wrong, until I realized that :?
Plus I have astigmatism. Tried as You rekomendovali on Gzone topic for potocani, draw a cross on the diagonal, but it is not always. Now, use this stereo, do a day for 15-30min. It was better...but the page in the middle is not always, maybe very tense...
Андрей Патрушев wrote:So the goal is: "I am highly paid professional" I like the most, although it is fairly limited, in my opinion (and maybe it's good)
To me it is also like most of those that came to mind.
This is the first consciously set a goal you want to achieve!!!
I would not want to get result like You described above, or something like that :)
I for this reason decided to consult the forum, as I have already said that ill-defined goal, can bring harm.
Limited in what way?

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Post by Евгений Кош » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:10

Андрей Патрушев wrote: From the point of view of working with large amounts of material to memorize, I advise you to go to Hugson, find all the course materials for potocani and regularly before bed fotocity their volumes of information. This is a very simple and effective.
Andrew, in Your translation "methodology direct teaching" You mention some other drive on the "potocani" which contains additional material.
Where this disc can be purchased? (maybe I overlooked, but www.yugzone.ru I have not found.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:33

Развивающийся wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:So the goal is: "I am highly paid professional" I like the most, although it is fairly limited, in my opinion (and maybe it's good)
Limited in what way?
limited in terms of "paid".. ie ( my personal opinions) is a PAYMENT for work, work for hire.. someone who has the money and You will pay though "paid" :) .
At first glance, the distinction between them is very thin.. but on the second - you know that gap between them..
between : "have enough money" ( a crude phrase.. raw feel.. though vaguely, but close to the subject) and "I am highly paid professional".. (though the second sentence is also worthy of attention, if not as important is the process cash flow to replenish it welfare) :)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:20

Евгений Кош wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote: From the point of view of working with large amounts of material to memorize, I advise you to go to Hugson, find all the course materials for potocani and regularly before bed fotocity their volumes of information. This is a very simple and effective.
Andrew, in Your translation "methodology direct teaching" You mention some other drive on the "potocani" which contains additional material.
Where this disc can be purchased? (maybe I overlooked, but www.yugzone.ru I have not found.
This CD is in English. Ask Vladimir Nikonov, maybe he will share it with You, if you really need.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:24

Евгений Кош wrote:
Развивающийся wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:So the goal is: "I am highly paid professional" I like the most, although it is fairly limited, in my opinion (and maybe it's good)
Limited in what way?
limited in terms of "paid".. ie ( my personal opinions) is a PAYMENT for work, work for hire.. someone who has the money and You will pay though "paid" :) .
At first glance, the distinction between them is very thin.. but on the second - you know that gap between them..
between : "have enough money" ( a crude phrase.. raw feel.. though vaguely, but close to the subject) and "I am highly paid professional".. (though the second sentence is also worthy of attention, if not as important is the process cash flow to replenish it welfare) :)
Yes, something like that... don't need to tell God exactly how he needs to take care of You.... The reality is much more diverse and interesting than being a highly paid professional. :)

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Post by Кали » Thu Nov 08, 2007 13:45

Hello all!

Read this thread from the beginning, but have not found the answer to your question. And my question concerned the use of the verb "missing" and the predicate "no". For example, phrase "the Desire to smoke I have is missing." or "Needs to smoke I have no" on the one hand there is simply a statement of fact. On the other, I feel that somewhere in here sits the denial. Perhaps due to the fact that the word "no" can eating like a particle with a negative answer to the question. With the word "absent" is more difficult - I can't understand where is might be hiding denial. Maybe it is just not there?

So is it possible to use these words in self-hypnosis or not?
Will help to understand?

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Post by Развивающийся » Thu Nov 08, 2007 13:50

Eugene, Andrew, thanks for the tips and support!!!!!

Now it is clear what it is limited... the Process of cash flow, is also important...
But if the option: "My skills, provides me enough money!"

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Nov 08, 2007 14:11

Кали wrote:Hello all!

Read this thread from the beginning, but have not found the answer to your question. And my question concerned the use of the verb "missing" and the predicate "no". For example, phrase "the Desire to smoke I have is missing." or "Needs to smoke I have no" on the one hand there is simply a statement of fact. On the other, I feel that somewhere in here sits the denial. Perhaps due to the fact that the word "no" can eating like a particle with a negative answer to the question. With the word "absent" is more difficult - I can't understand where is might be hiding denial. Maybe it is just not there?

So is it possible to use these words in self-hypnosis or not?
Will help to understand?
The focus of all that to present itself (which is important when self-hypnosis), something is missing, first, that "something" must be present, and then somehow enter the neck of operand of the negation. So often with this verb, it turns the well-known joke about the Hajj, Nasredine and monkey (camel).
Easier to imagine "I'm a nonsmoker", but also we must try. Most likely for Smoking cessation are better suited indirect suggestion like, "I like to breathe (enjoy) fresh air. I have clean lungs, etc." Phrase a negative sense, like I don't like (hate) nicotine, cigarette smoke, taste smoke, etc." can lead to the transfer of eih feelings on smokers, in other words of Your comrades.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Nov 08, 2007 14:16

Развивающийся wrote:Eugene, Andrew, thanks for the tips and support!!!!!

Now it is clear what it is limited... the Process of cash flow, is also important...
But if the option: "My skills, provides me enough money!"
Well... I meant that You deserve better in this life not because You are a high quality professional, and just because You are...

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